Everyone has a breaking point. Don’t waste your life getting to yours. I don’t care who the narcissist is-you need to get out and stay out. Now! These people will destroy you.
@@joebhouse Yes!! Ex covert narc wanted me to put him in front of my son. I remember 2 weeks prior to him cruelly discarding me he texted me “I’ll never have all of you.”
That was me .we never dated but I did have a few feelings for him but little by little he was trying to cross boundaries.when he said I wish you would give a little and then constantly telling his family every single time we even went to eat or anything I slowly peeled myself away .he was so shocked . Plus the constant profanity got on my last nerve .he would be like im sorry im sorry but still do it . especially if his brother was around .it was just neverending nonsense.... I tried to warn him that I didn't appreciate him always telling everything and he would say ok ok I'll stop .finally when he told something that was a financial transaction with his sister trying to help me in a big way I was just like wow he is never going to stop running his mouth I just became so turned off ...been gone since 2022 .he tried to say when his sister died that I can come over sometime I was like nope to myself .and now he is pouting .and he is 68 yrs old with that mess .
I left due to emotionally abusive mind games but was persuaded back to the place by others. We talked and I went back on a much more boundaried basis. The narc couldn’t handle it so after a while I was ready to leave again. The narc spent the last two weeks being kind, friendly, respectful and inclusive. I found it somewhat nauseating because it meant they knew exactly what they were doing. Left. No contact. Never looked back.
Same, except the last two weeks he was more abusive, until the day I left. I was a weird mix of baiting, to induce anger.. then he attempted to gain my empathy by explaining himself a victim, By this time I stayed over night in hotels, 2 or 3 times. To practice leaving... Finally I made the decision to leave the narcissist alone. I am no longer supply for him.
They come back into your life, the previous episode/s are not discussed and for some reason we don't bring anything up either and basically pick-up where we left off.In my experiences it gets worse
I was The Narcissist’s “perfect supply” for over 3 1/2 years. When we entered our romantic relationship I was very young and naive, he was older (my senior by 6 years, me being underaged) and he knew exactly what he was doing. When I decided to leave him, I saw how desperate he truly was. Watching your videos, The Narcissist has hit nearly every checkpoint on the list. This information is helping me untangle the trauma and give me an explanation for it all as I heal myself. Thank you so much for making these videos.
Joe, I think your videos are among the best on UA-cam for a number of reasons. They’re not sensationalist, and you pay much more attention to the more subtle and insidious aspects of being with a narcissist. I’ve been in this game of almost leaving and being pulled back in for months now. As soon as they think they’ve got you safely back in your box, they drop the facade and once again I’d go back to feeling shut out and pushed away. They never actually wanted me in any form, they just didn’t want me to be the one to go.
Dear Joe, I feel so grateful for discovering you on Quora and also here just couple of days after my break up with the narcissist. You have been a huge support during my healing 🙏 You have a special, genius way of talking about the topic and your voice is so calming (I could listen to you all day long). THANK YOU from my heart! ♥️ Nena
OMG, same here. I found you, Joe House, on Quora and then here. The way you describe this ugliness is soooo calming and with a good intent . I have watched many videos on the topic but there are always some intense emotions. Your voice is so calming it feels like an ointment for my emotional wounds. Thank you 😊
I’ve been a target all these years…damn that’s deep. I was picked to manipulate, he chose me because nobody else would stand for it. Smh now we have a baby. Thank you sm for this I’m constantly beating myself up 😢
Yes elaine,at least she tried. Some narcs think we are stupid. I'm very intelligent and I detached,I moved on,and I'm not going to tolerate abuse. I'm also not going to be a doormat for anyone.
Great advice. It doesn't get better if you keep going back to the narcissist. They get you in their sghts and just try to destroy you. They are. very cruel people
Narc was wholly dependent on me. But she just could not resist herself and pushed me too far. I invited her to leave my home. She didn't take that well. IF she had supply lined up, he got cold feet and she was left alone. It took her a few months to find weak-sauce supply, a guy she could move in with quickly but he isn't able to provide the lifestyle she enjoyed with me. There was a time that if only she had only apologized I'd have forgiven her and taken her back. But her pride is way too strong, she'd rather die than admit fault. She did try to hoover about a year later- it was probably more of a feeler to see if I was open to a hoover, but I rejected it. Lucky for me she waited too long and I was already well into my healing journey.
I did it for ten years. I keep reading comments where the victim spent 20, 25, 30 years to a narcissist spouse. I am relieved that I am out and it was not any longer. These creatures get worse as they get older.
@racebannon96 I hear you, I can definitely see how people get tricked by these cowards 💯 they deteriorate your health on every level. Once we are out, the fog lifts & its mind bending how empty they truly are
Once my ex narcissist started being disrespectful for no reason I discarded her blocked and went on contact 3 years later I find out this nut job was stalking me the whole time and once that mut seen me moving on she popped back up trying to destroy my relationships because she expected me to chase and beg for her to come back her ego got crushed and I love it
After 7 years I called his bluff. Finally, I was able to walk away even face to face. Totally ignored him this afternoon & walked into my apt. away from him. Not taking him again, over & over w/ no changed actions!
This is by far the deepest insights and this information has helped me tremendously, I don't know how I can repay you other than telling other people and raising awareness, you should write a book, I would buy it!
Just started watching your videos. Really enjoy reading your articles on Quora. My ex-narc has been blocked for almost a month with no sign of hoovering again. I believe this is the final discard. I think he's moved on or he knows I'm done with the games. They don't always come back especially if they have new and good supply.
@Job B. House, we got married, had a son who was diagnosed with autism, and that's why I didn't continue helping him in his business. He says I didn't care about him, didn't give him enough support. I chose to be there for our son who was needing me so much. So sad. I think i have responsability on his decision: discarding me.
First time I have listened Joe. You are exactly on point reference the narcissist, I have been involved with two in my life. One married to 23 years the other right on the heels of the other one, that lasted 5 years. I'm definitely on my guard and have sent a couple in the last 7 months after seeing red flags... sent them packing. Not again...Great video.
You all you need to google ASPD, there could be more to this. Mine was a covert vulnerable narcissist but there’s more to a lot of what people sometimes are too scared to talk about or/ have no idea it even exists. I’m telling you. I research this for two years and figured him out, you should do them same. Joe, I just love listening to your truth. Your so honest and blunt, everyone that does their homework should find this as the old school dictionary of the famous book that no longer exists. Well it kinda does but not really. Proven point with these fellers.👈🏻
@@irielion3748 it’s apart of the DSM-5 manual. I couldn’t put my finger on my ex covert narcissist so I researched for 2 years. Emailed a narc on hear recovering showed him my hospital pics and told me to look up the DSM-5. It’s antisocial personality disorder. Not all Narcissists have this but all people that have ASPD have narcissism. It’s a double whammy on their part. Dive into it hopefully you don’t have PTSD like I do due to TBI. Just take it for what it is. It might clear the picture of what’s really going on to you.👈🏻
Yes. The more that you study, the more that you think to yourself that it is genetic. That some genes are turned on or remain off causing the variety of the spectrum. Anytime that you see your narcissist as hurtful, deliberate or bully or sadistic, you will know that they are also psychopaths too which is essentially what anti-social personality disorder is. There’s so many names and types of them that I just refer to them as narcissist/ psychopaths. I type the whole term out like that. Psychologists, here on UA-cam, just call them, narcissist even though that is not the kind that most of us are complaining about but they do that for simplicity. Narcissist is now an umbrella term. Also, “ empath “ is a science fiction character from a 1956 book called, the empath. This character had telepathic ability to sense, to know exactly, a person’s emotions. That’s impossible. People still believe in this and they go around thinking that they can sense someone’s emotions telepathically. That’s nonsense but psychopaths can read people very well. So well, it probably feels like they know their prey, keep that one in mind, folks! Sam Vaknin has videos on empaths being narcissistic. It’s not the same thing as Narcissistic personality disorder but their narcissism is thick; same with Borderlines. If you study Borderlines, you will grasp the cluster B characteristics really quick. Study, histrionic, avoidant and schizoid after. Some of these cluster B’s mix and match. Some Borderlines are half and half of Borderline plus Narcissist/psychopaths.
@@bonnielee316 yes I have also read about sadism and also cluster B. Both of those seem to be secretively like my ex. I feel the same thing about empaths, that’s interesting where that comes from. I agree with you on that vocab. Just becuz you are a caring person and can feel sorry for people when they tell you about their pain doesn’t click with me with that word. That’s an interesting read, thank you. One thing I wanna note is I read about psychopaths and sociopaths and what I read was psychopaths are born that way and sociopaths it’s from abuse and neglect in childhood. Narcissistic people that you are in a relationship with will never tell you that. They leave it simple by saying I had a good childhood with nothing else to say about it. All this is starting to come together thank you for your input.😊❤️👍🏻
I'm testifying against him next week. I left two years ago. PLEASE tell me any tips...should I make eye contact? & he's 100% going to prison. Will he come after me ?? He's been threatening me
I think better not, eye contact. Your composure must be 100% calm, something like a 'yoga session relaxing meditation' face. Nothing that could transpire fear..
Absolutely look him in the eye, let him know he hasn't ground you down, let someone know he is threatening you just more evidence. If he is going to prison then you have no worries.
I wouldn't make eye contact. I understand the comment about not letting them think they've ground you down. However, I think you're forgetting that narcissists are about supply which equals attention. Positive or negative it's still attention. It's like little kids. " Made you look"!!! I wouldn't give him the satisfaction. Plus it will affect your composure. He's going to be sitting there the WHOLE time fixated on you. Dying for you to look at him. He's probably practicing and having conversations with himself about looks He's going to give you. DON'T GIVE HIM ANY SUPPLY. The best way to hurt him, remember, is to ignore him. Of course, I'm no expert. But I was raised by a Narcissist father. I was the only one who could get him to do anything, and I was the only one who went no contact and stuck to it.
Why not make eye contact??? I would suggest watching animal planet and learning how to out predator the predator. Make eye contact, look stearn and disgusted and keep saying in your head, if you come anywhere near me, it will be your Last day. Give off an aura of being deadly. But that's just my suggestion, also Pray and ask for clarity in how to move. But show no fear to something that bleeds that same as you.
Have always thought that. It’s why (imo) hoovers tend to come more from male narcs than females. For example in my case my ex had a long line of supply options of drooling males on her Facebook page
narcissists will never love you your entire relationship was an illusion
That's the most hurtful part you think of all the things you have done for them and things they have done for you all fake dam
@@ninath13
yet they see you as an extension/possession of them. It's weirdly confusing
@@ninath13 not as hurtful as a life where one can not give or receive love. That is hell. We can get over the episode. They can't.
That's the hardest part! My marriage and the past 8 years was a lie...devastating I promise you
Everyone has a breaking point. Don’t waste your life getting to yours. I don’t care who the narcissist is-you need to get out and stay out. Now! These people will destroy you.
Unfortunately, loving people leave only after a breaking point...some never able to get out alive😔
Now that I know the Narcissist has the emotional mindset of a child, of course they need the supply just like a child needs the parent
They want your love just for them, all of it.
Leaving none for you or anyone else
They are a child in an adult body
Diana I'm not giving the supply to her. I don't owe her anything. I sure wish she would find another empath because she's not returning to this host.
More like a demonized child. They lack any kind of innocence or purity.
@@joebhouse
Yes!!
Ex covert narc wanted me to put him in front of my son. I remember 2 weeks prior to him cruelly discarding me he texted me “I’ll never have all of you.”
It doesn't matter what they think, just run!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nobody is all good or all bad, lots of shades of grey. Narcissists have Black or White thinking, no shades of grey.
Right
I’m so beyond caring what he thinks of me. I want him to ignore me . He is a parasite that just feeds off people.
That was me .we never dated but I did have a few feelings for him but little by little he was trying to cross boundaries.when he said I wish you would give a little and then constantly telling his family every single time we even went to eat or anything I slowly peeled myself away .he was so shocked . Plus the constant profanity got on my last nerve .he would be like im sorry im sorry but still do it . especially if his brother was around .it was just neverending nonsense.... I tried to warn him that I didn't appreciate him always telling everything and he would say ok ok I'll stop .finally when he told something that was a financial transaction with his sister trying to help me in a big way I was just like wow he is never going to stop running his mouth I just became so turned off ...been gone since 2022 .he tried to say when his sister died that I can come over sometime I was like nope to myself .and now he is pouting .and he is 68 yrs old with that mess .
Exactly
I left due to emotionally abusive mind games but was persuaded back to the place by others. We talked and I went back on a much more boundaried basis. The narc couldn’t handle it so after a while I was ready to leave again. The narc spent the last two weeks being kind, friendly, respectful and inclusive. I found it somewhat nauseating because it meant they knew exactly what they were doing.
Left. No contact. Never looked back.
Same, except the last two weeks he was more abusive, until the day I left.
I was a weird mix of baiting, to induce anger.. then he attempted to gain my empathy by explaining himself a victim,
By this time I stayed over night in hotels, 2 or 3 times.
To practice leaving...
Finally I made the decision to leave the narcissist alone.
I am no longer supply for him.
Oh, they KNOW!
I notice that narcissist tend to destroy the most beautiful souls. Stay blessed up with boundaries in place people
Did leave them go had 28yrs of ABUSE left him to have ALL THE WOMEN IN THE WORLD BUT NOT ME ANYMORE.
They come back into your life, the previous episode/s are not discussed and for some reason we don't bring anything up either and basically pick-up where we left off.In my experiences it gets worse
True
YUP!
It hurts more the second time they leave you! Once you’ve healed they come back and leave…hard lesson learned
These adults need to learn that they aren't entitled to hold people hostage ffs
Facts
I was The Narcissist’s “perfect supply” for over 3 1/2 years. When we entered our romantic relationship I was very young and naive, he was older (my senior by 6 years, me being underaged) and he knew exactly what he was doing. When I decided to leave him, I saw how desperate he truly was. Watching your videos, The Narcissist has hit nearly every checkpoint on the list. This information is helping me untangle the trauma and give me an explanation for it all as I heal myself. Thank you so much for making these videos.
He or you ? the real narcissist?
Stay strong beautiful angel
🙏🏻😇💕✨️
Joe, I think your videos are among the best on UA-cam for a number of reasons. They’re not sensationalist, and you pay much more attention to the more subtle and insidious aspects of being with a narcissist. I’ve been in this game of almost leaving and being pulled back in for months now. As soon as they think they’ve got you safely back in your box, they drop the facade and once again I’d go back to feeling shut out and pushed away. They never actually wanted me in any form, they just didn’t want me to be the one to go.
Dear Joe, I feel so grateful for discovering you on Quora and also here just couple of days after my break up with the narcissist. You have been a huge support during my healing 🙏 You have a special, genius way of talking about the topic and your voice is so calming (I could listen to you all day long). THANK YOU from my heart! ♥️ Nena
Thank you Nena, so glad you find the videos helpful, and great to hear you have been healing :)!
honestly.. he helps me realize all these actions aren’t to be blamed on the victim , it takes a toll on someone
OMG, same here.
I found you, Joe House, on Quora and then here. The way you describe this ugliness is soooo calming and with a good intent . I have watched many videos on the topic but there are always some intense emotions. Your voice is so calming it feels like an ointment for my emotional wounds. Thank you 😊
Quora led me here too. I def agree!
I have been in the in the game for 34yrs! I'm done!
It was a toxic cycle
I’ve been a target all these years…damn that’s deep. I was picked to manipulate, he chose me because nobody else would stand for it. Smh now we have a baby. Thank you sm for this I’m constantly beating myself up 😢
Would they still hoover if the target knows about being smeared?
Yes elaine,at least she tried. Some narcs think we are stupid. I'm very intelligent and I detached,I moved on,and I'm not going to tolerate abuse. I'm also not going to be a doormat for anyone.
Yes, to destroy you!!
Great advice. It doesn't get better if you keep going back to the narcissist. They get you in their sghts and just try to destroy you. They are. very cruel people
The most gentle honest and real explanation I’ve ever heard in so few words…Thankyou❤
Narc was wholly dependent on me. But she just could not resist herself and pushed me too far. I invited her to leave my home. She didn't take that well. IF she had supply lined up, he got cold feet and she was left alone. It took her a few months to find weak-sauce supply, a guy she could move in with quickly but he isn't able to provide the lifestyle she enjoyed with me. There was a time that if only she had only apologized I'd have forgiven her and taken her back. But her pride is way too strong, she'd rather die than admit fault. She did try to hoover about a year later- it was probably more of a feeler to see if I was open to a hoover, but I rejected it. Lucky for me she waited too long and I was already well into my healing journey.
12 years I gave myself to my husband. I thought he was the love of my life,it was all an illusion 💔 that's the part I'm trying to grasp
I did it for ten years. I keep reading comments where the victim spent 20, 25, 30 years to a narcissist spouse. I am relieved that I am out and it was not any longer. These creatures get worse as they get older.
@racebannon96 I hear you, I can definitely see how people get tricked by these cowards 💯 they deteriorate your health on every level. Once we are out, the fog lifts & its mind bending how empty they truly are
Once my ex narcissist started being disrespectful for no reason I discarded her blocked and went on contact 3 years later I find out this nut job was stalking me the whole time and once that mut seen me moving on she popped back up trying to destroy my relationships because she expected me to chase and beg for her to come back her ego got crushed and I love it
Great comment! Especially m😂ut
Great help thanks ... the empty feeling of stripppping ourselves of great qualities for a black hole
Thank you Joe.. IT a DAM Long road to HEALING Ones Self!🙏 Better LATE, Than NEVER.. a JOE!
This is good advice.
I love your voice... It's so calm...
just exactly what am going through indeed each round of the gets more toxic....i was never ready..thank you Joe
JOE THIS IS GREATLY HELPFUL, GRAND SLAM INFO HERE. BRAVO 👏👏👏👏
I'm divorcing mine, he is doing exactly what you are saying, the sooner I get rid of him the better after 35yrs!
After 7 years I called his bluff. Finally, I was able to walk away even face to face. Totally ignored him this afternoon & walked into my apt. away from him. Not taking him again, over & over w/ no changed actions!
Entire ordeal was all fake. All an act. They do not care and are ruthless.
This is by far the deepest insights and this information has helped me tremendously, I don't know how I can repay you other than telling other people and raising awareness, you should write a book, I would buy it!
Just started watching your videos. Really enjoy reading your articles on Quora. My ex-narc has been blocked for almost a month with no sign of hoovering again. I believe this is the final discard. I think he's moved on or he knows I'm done with the games. They don't always come back especially if they have new and good supply.
@Job B. House, we got married, had a son who was diagnosed with autism, and that's why I didn't continue helping him in his business. He says I didn't care about him, didn't give him enough support. I chose to be there for our son who was needing me so much. So sad. I think i have responsability on his decision: discarding me.
Best video ever it’s EXACTLY where I’m at! I needed to hear this! Thank you SO much!
First time I have listened Joe. You are exactly on point reference the narcissist, I have been involved with two in my life. One married to 23 years the other right on the heels of the other one, that lasted 5 years. I'm definitely on my guard and have sent a couple in the last 7 months after seeing red flags... sent them packing. Not again...Great video.
You all you need to google ASPD, there could be more to this. Mine was a covert vulnerable narcissist but there’s more to a lot of what people sometimes are too scared to talk about or/ have no idea it even exists. I’m telling you. I research this for two years and figured him out, you should do them same. Joe, I just love listening to your truth. Your so honest and blunt, everyone that does their homework should find this as the old school dictionary of the famous book that no longer exists. Well it kinda does but not really. Proven point with these fellers.👈🏻
ASPD?
@@irielion3748 it’s apart of the DSM-5 manual. I couldn’t put my finger on my ex covert narcissist so I researched for 2 years. Emailed a narc on hear recovering showed him my hospital pics and told me to look up the DSM-5. It’s antisocial personality disorder. Not all Narcissists have this but all people that have ASPD have narcissism. It’s a double whammy on their part. Dive into it hopefully you don’t have PTSD like I do due to TBI. Just take it for what it is. It might clear the picture of what’s really going on to you.👈🏻
@@irielion3748antisocial personality disorder-ASPD
Yes. The more that you study, the more that you think to yourself that it is genetic. That some genes are turned on or remain off causing the variety of the spectrum.
Anytime that you see your narcissist as hurtful, deliberate or bully or sadistic, you will know that they are also psychopaths too which is essentially what anti-social personality disorder is.
There’s so many names and types of them that I just refer to them as narcissist/ psychopaths. I type the whole term out like that. Psychologists, here on UA-cam, just call them, narcissist even though that is not the kind that most of us are complaining about but they do that for simplicity. Narcissist is now an umbrella term.
Also, “ empath “ is a science fiction character from a 1956 book called, the empath. This character had telepathic ability to sense, to know exactly, a person’s emotions. That’s impossible. People still believe in this and they go around thinking that they can sense someone’s emotions telepathically. That’s nonsense but psychopaths can read people very well. So well, it probably feels like they know their prey, keep that one in mind, folks!
Sam Vaknin has videos on empaths being narcissistic. It’s not the same thing as Narcissistic personality disorder but their narcissism is thick; same with Borderlines.
If you study Borderlines, you will grasp the cluster B characteristics really quick. Study, histrionic, avoidant and schizoid after. Some of these cluster B’s mix and match. Some Borderlines are half and half of Borderline plus Narcissist/psychopaths.
@@bonnielee316 yes I have also read about sadism and also cluster B. Both of those seem to be secretively like my ex. I feel the same thing about empaths, that’s interesting where that comes from. I agree with you on that vocab. Just becuz you are a caring person and can feel sorry for people when they tell you about their pain doesn’t click with me with that word. That’s an interesting read, thank you. One thing I wanna note is I read about psychopaths and sociopaths and what I read was psychopaths are born that way and sociopaths it’s from abuse and neglect in childhood. Narcissistic people that you are in a relationship with will never tell you that. They leave it simple by saying I had a good childhood with nothing else to say about it. All this is starting to come together thank you for your input.😊❤️👍🏻
Ill be honest here... I really don't like narcissists.
Such simple truth. So brilliant. I really appreciate you sharing this. Thank you
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, really insightful.
Love your channel. Really helpful. ❤
Love this channel. You are so, so real.
❤
He finally gave up after 8 months of failed Hoover attempts .
Unfortunately hes probably not done. But good job, keep ignoring.
Exhausting
Thank you.
Needed this. Thanks, Joe.
Great video! Thank you!💓
Im leaving no room for my narc to hoover or love bomb me this time. Ive managed to cut all contact. 7 days and counting
Their famous with this line: « I like what I know » 😂
Just run and never look back
Thank you for your videos. They are very helpful.
Such great advice!
Joe, I love you on Quora and I finally got you on here. Thank you for all your information. You have helped me tremendously.💛
All I wysh is that I know all this before
what if you find out they are really gay and hid that from you
I recently found similar things and didn't bother confronting him better and safer to walk away
I'm testifying against him next week. I left two years ago. PLEASE tell me any tips...should I make eye contact? & he's 100% going to prison. Will he come after me ?? He's been threatening me
What did he do to you?????
I think better not, eye contact. Your composure must be 100% calm, something like a 'yoga session relaxing meditation' face. Nothing that could transpire fear..
Absolutely look him in the eye, let him know he hasn't ground you down, let someone know he is threatening you just more evidence. If he is going to prison then you have no worries.
I wouldn't make eye contact. I understand the comment about not letting them think they've ground you down. However, I think you're forgetting that narcissists are about supply which equals attention. Positive or negative it's still attention. It's like little kids. " Made you look"!!! I wouldn't give him the satisfaction. Plus it will affect your composure. He's going to be sitting there the WHOLE time fixated on you. Dying for you to look at him. He's probably practicing and having conversations with himself about looks He's going to give you. DON'T GIVE HIM ANY SUPPLY. The best way to hurt him, remember, is to ignore him. Of course, I'm no expert. But I was raised by a Narcissist father. I was the only one who could get him to do anything, and I was the only one who went no contact and stuck to it.
Why not make eye contact??? I would suggest watching animal planet and learning how to out predator the predator. Make eye contact, look stearn and disgusted and keep saying in your head, if you come anywhere near me, it will be your Last day. Give off an aura of being deadly. But that's just my suggestion, also Pray and ask for clarity in how to move. But show no fear to something that bleeds that same as you.
🎯
Am really hurting am not going to lie,she's my daughters mother and I knew her 21 years.
I’m hurting too I swear…my 11 month old’s father…I knew him almost 9 years. Cry it out, but remember to LOVE YOU MORE. That’s my biggest goal rn
Ask God to be your relationship. God bless you both.
🎉🎉🎉 THANKS
🕊❤️🙏
Lay goy layy goyy!
Why come i never see any narcissist comment under these kind of videos ?
Cuz they don't look this up. They just keep lying to new person.
They think everyone else is one
My ex is back living with his mother at 50 and two other older brothers n no female has outlasted her she is their supply she is a black window
Lol, mine is back living with his mum too even though he has a house, it sits empty. I always said to him you need a mummy, not a wife, he's 56.
But it must be easier for female narcissist to get supply then it is for a male narcissist, (in general). We have to make that distinction.
Have always thought that. It’s why (imo) hoovers tend to come more from male narcs than females. For example in my case my ex had a long line of supply options of drooling males on her Facebook page