No doubt some human talent got borrowed from DW (also a CZ company) to help. Now if DW would just get back into their revolvers, love their interchangeable barrels.
Am I the only one impressed by the target moving forward? I have no idea how to do that video effect. Very cool. Looking forward to the comparison with SW 617.
Glad you like that. It took some time to learn how to take the picture in picture from the downrange camera and crop out the target and then slowly enlarge it but I like the way it came out. It's always nice when others notice your work too so I really appreciate the comment and I will incorporate that edit into future videos as well.
@@buffalosoutdoors Yes that was awesome! You can't even see where you cropped it. I thought I was seeing things at first. Totally professional. I bet all the other gun guys start copying this. I tried learning DaVinci Resolve so I know how hard video editing is.
@@MikeStallings2023 Well I sure appreciate the feedback. I like experimenting and I don't know what people like if they don't say anything. I use Magix Vegas. I have the Pro Edit subscription where I just pay a monthly fee for all the updates. I've been using it for years but I still have a lot to learn on there.
@@buffalosoutdoors I am retired and healthy and energetic, but I do not have the energy or eyesight to do video editing. That is hard work. I appreciate those who can do it, but it is not for me.
Ok...OK!!!! This is, most likely, one of your TOP 5 videos since the beginning of this incredible show!!! You went all out and it shows. Fantastic work Buffalo!! Every aspect of this wheelie is covered in fine detail. And by the way Colt, put a dadgum allen wrench in the case!!! Keep doing what you do so we can keep doing what we do. Thanks Buffalo.
When you are reviewing a jewel like this, 30 minutes is not long enough. At least for me. I cannot afford one so watching you review it is a huge bonus.
Thanks for that. You know, everything about my YT analytics says NOT to make a 30 minute video. It's a waste of time and energy. But this is what I like to do so I'm going to do it my way. I'm glad that people are liking it. It makes it all that much more satisfying. I appreciate you my friend.
Greetings from Australia, Buffalo. Great review, as always. I'm looking forward to a comparison review with S&W 617, which i have in 6-inch. You can't beat .22 lr revolvers. I was wondering about the beard until i saw the snow.😊
The 617 is an awesome .22 revolver. Yeah I got a little winter growth going on. I plan on keeping it until we open the campground in late March. Thanks for watching and greetings from Kentucky!
Always enjoy hearing your common sense observations and seeing your excellent marksmanship. What a beautiful finish on this revolver. As for dislikes of it, the trigger guard seems misshapen compared to a Smith, but maybe that’s just me. Glad to see Colt is still capable of producing quality firearms.
Thanks so much. I gotta admit. I didn't know how you guys would react when I dropped a 30 minute video. I mean I enjoyed putting it together but that didn't guarantee that you guys would like it.
Buffalo, I really appreciate the high production quality you are doing with your videos! Such as bringing the 2nd camera view of the target up to the front so we can see the hits "in real time", the great views of the guns on the table top reviews and even the wide variety of camera shots you provide of your property/range. Oh...this gun appears to be awesome. I want one, but just not at $1000. Maybe I can find a used one some day.
Beautiful gun. I paid over $800 for my GP100 10 round 22 LR a couple years ago. Mine has a 5.5 inch semi-lug barrel profile. I do not like the full lug profile so I chose the Ruger GP100 and three points of cylinder support. Over the 617 S&W but the Colt is a beautiful revolver.
i absolutely agree that gun/load have to be bench rest tested once things are dialed in you can go out in the field with some degree of confidence. Otherwise you are just guessing.
Buffalo, I saw a 6 inch SS gun with wood grips on Guns International. Cabana’s had several. I bought one and got it today. It has a good sized horse on the bottom of the grips. Great looking gun.
Color me highly impressed by the ignition reliability of this gun. Surely the biggest problem with .22 revolvers besides running out of ammunition is light striking. Going 100% is close to unbelievable. Of the good number of rimfire revos I've had, only one was this reliable; coincidentally or not, also a Colt. It was a Colt Trooper .22. They built a couple of thousand supposedly for police training to transition to the Official Police and Trooper .357 guns (not to be confused with the later Mk III and V). These are E-frame guns, the same as the Python but they pre-dated the snake. At the time, I had both the rimfire and magnum guns. One day at the club, I got to shooting the .22 for quite some time. Before I knew it, I'd expended something like 500 rounds or more. I would hazard that the lack of rim recessing helps with ignition. Those recesses can quickly get clogged with firing residue and I know on my Smith Kit Gun, it quickly becomes necessary to positively thumb the rounds in with some emphasis to make sure they'll go bang. Liking the looks of that double action trigger, too. The new Cobras that we've tried have had surprisingly good DA racks and we've had more than one lady student settle on a new Cobra has her first gun in part because of that (the other being the frame size being so suitable for smaller hands).
This is my first Colt .22 caliber revolver. I am impressed with it. Some have reported ignition issues with these revolvers but they also demonstrated very light trigger pull weights. It makes me wonder if Colt hasn’t stiffened the springs up a bit in these newer ones to eliminate that issue. I don’t know if that is the case or not. Either way this one with its stouter pull is setting off every ammunition I put through it. Thanks for the great comment.
I have been looking all over the internet. Wondering why on earth the cylinders had non recessed holes. And you are the only answer that I found that is actually convincing. What a good answer and good reason. And the fact that it probably does help cleaning up is also a great feature.
Recessed chambers were specifically used with 22lr back in earlier times when balloon head cases and folded rim cases were used, and the case rims were weaker. It aided with ignition and protected the fragile rim and compound. It helps prevent the rim from expanding outwards on firing pin impact and contains it better. You can see it on many revolvers and semi autos. With today’s much better 22lr ammo it isn’t really needed, but, nor has it ever been known to detract from reliable ignition. I guess my main question would be; what 22 ammo or guns are you using that it makes you feel like a revolver shooting 22 without ignition issues for a basic range session is a big deal? I can’t remember the last time I had a 22lr round fail to fire at this point. That’s through 10/22’s, Mark 4’s, LCR’s, NAA mini’s, Beretta 21’s, and on and on. Sure, maybe if I switch to the bottom of the barrel bulk packs I might see one failure in an afternoon of shooting, but I don’t shoot that, so I don’t see any. The last point would be that it is these non-recessed pythons that have been having ignition issues apparently, and maybe solved it by increasing the hammer spring weight. 5-6 lbs for a single action target revolver is pretty heavy to have to go to so that you get reliable ignition, certainly more than many other single action 22 pull weights.
@@JimYeats early Colt .22’s did not have recessed chambers. The brass is stronger now but the rimfire case is basically manufactured the same. The balloon head case reference concerned early centerfire cartridges. The Colt lock work is different than S&W, it requires a lot more work to balance out the V spring. And the trigger sear angles are much different. They feel much different. The heavy single action is because of the drop test laws mandated in some states. The Colt can be tuned much lighter, my KCT .22 is about 2.5 lbs. In the 1930’s Colt revolvers dominated National Match competition (the single action was easier to cock than the long action S&W) but they abandoned the Officer’s Model Match revolvers when semi autos started winning in .22 and the Colt National Match 1911 was used for both centerfire and .45 competition.
I bought the 6” version and had trouble concluding my shooting session! Loved the revolver and its accuracy. Now I need a go fund me account so I can afford more ammo!
Buffalo I believe it is heavier to deal with the light strikes and here is why. I purchased one in December of 2023 most likely the same run as yours and my trigger pull weights are 4.9pounds average of 3 single action pulls and 9.6 pounds average of 3 double action pulls. Though a friend of mine who has an early 2021 model which does have light strikes that we have been experimenting with to determine if it is trigger or a specific brand of ammo or a certain chamber in the cylinder has 3.2pound single action and 8 pounds double action. Interesting enough only the double action in his pistol has misfires. As usual GREAT video and detail and you beat me to the video as I was down and out sick for a while but on the mend now.
Glad you are feeling better my friend. And I had a suspicion that was the case but only having the one sample I didn't want to jump to any conclusions. Thank you.
Thankfully to the best of my knowledge there is no 12 step program for us. This is something I give thanks for on a daily basis and something my long suffering wife bemoans on a daily basis. My latest is a S&W M17 Classic. This will compliment my Colt Officers Match 22, High Standard Sentinel & Double 9 and Iver Johnson 999 & 929. Not to mention the High Standard Model B, Ruger Bull barrel and Llama & Browning baby 1911s, Colt ACE and Kimber conversion units. Then there are the 3 Ruger Single Six’s and several Heritage Rough Riders. See thankful every day.
Cool revolver! I really like that you are showing it to us. I like me some .22 caliber double action revolvers. 👍👍👍. I would like the 4 inch one as well. I like that Colt has kept the barrel one piece and kept the hammer and trigger stainless as well,unlike Smith &Wesson. And no Hilary Hole either!
Buffalo, I agree about the Allen key. When they get something that small sometimes they're kind of hard to find and being that they are so small they really don't wear well as far as you're down key. So I agree with you. Totally good video and that's all I got to say about that
Thanks. Not everyone has a set of allen keys that small. If you got all the way to the range and realized you needed it to make an adjustment after paying a range fee that would be a bad day. At least for me I keep stuff like that and my range is only 200 yards from home. I was just thinking about the other guy. I always appreciate your comments! Thank you for watching my videos!
Great video. A hoosier buddy at work watched the first 15 minutes we had at lunch and he was smiling at the plate shooting. He is new to shooting at 5 yrs. I have ruined him he is buying guns at a steady pace. Take care
Hey Scott. Always good to see you in the comments brother. Tell your buddy Buffalo says hey and it's an addiction that has no cure! These little .22s are just too cool. I can't stop.
Hi Buffalo, very interesting video, it is nice to see a rimfire revolver tested like it needs to be tested. The gun seems accurate but I've seen you shoot with this kind of result with snubs as well, so the hand is good. Considering the gun per se, the fact that an outdoorsman's gun's rear sight needs a special tool to be adjusted isn't the best thing in the world and I wonder what the guys at Colt thought when they decided to build the rear sight this way. It is lighter than the 617 but I'm not of the idea I'd replace the 617 with this revolver, not as long as the rear sight remains the way it is.
You make good points. There are advantages to it as a target gun. It doesn't have clicks so you can dial it in more finely but then there is the whole needing a tool thing. And of course the set screw is very small and could be easily stripped out or lost if removed. It is odd that they chose this type of sight. Thanks for the great comment.
Hey, when you do the head to head with the S&W. Could you do another test with the trigger gage. I have always heard after shooting a lot a trigger could smooth out. So I’m just curious. Love the wheel gun Wednesday. That’s a beautiful revolver. Thanks
That's a beautiful revolver. Looks like a good shooter! Some walnut grips would look great on that pistol! I hope you enjoy it for many years to come, it is certainly an heirloom piece.
I was fortunate to find one a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I had to send mine back to Colt. The spent casings would bind after 20 rounds or 2 loads of you want to look at it that way. 100% on point about the grips and lack of an Allen key! This pistol deserves wood grips from Colt.
@buffalosoutdoors you win some you lose some. Good news is Colt customer service was pleasant to deal with. What I'd love to see from you? Maybe when the weather improves, a 10 shot showdown between the Colt, the 617 and the GP100. All 10 shot revolves but very different firearms.
Had the same issue. Full disassembly and reassembly with lots of lube fixed it for me. Must clean perfectly ever 500 rounds or reliability is gone. Yeah… that dinky rear sight needing goofy sized allen keys was super disappointing. Mines back at Colt now, on 25 business days, for a broken trigger return spring. Only took 4400 rounds. Colt refused to send the part, so just waiting on them to do the 5 minutes of work and send it back…
@nfaisnfgay I got mine back 2 weeks ago and took it to the range last week. Was also testing a Beretta 21a Ghostbuster so I had 7 different brands of ammo with me. Ran about 200rds through the Colt. Ejection was starting to hang up but nothing I couldn't clear with a firm palm strike to the ejection rod. Still too stiff to eject with just your thumb. Before sending it in the ejection was frozen after a 30rds. I had to push each casing out individually with a chamber flag. The Beretta unfortunately was a hot mess.
Great video. I would like to have seen some chronograph shots to evaluate the pressure loss at the cylinder gap. My 22lr Heritage Rough Rider with 6" barrel loses enough pressure that the 4.75" barrel model achieves higher velocities. I'm sure that the Colt has an improved cylinder gap tolerance than the Heritage - but I was curious about how much better efficiency. Cheers.
Sir, I was quite impressed with your shooting as I heard pings on every steel plate shot! I liked your comparison with the different rounds, I need to do that with mine. As the trigger goes, mine is also somewhat stiff but I’ve found it’s easing up a bit after shooting 3-400 rounds. Hopefully, after I get a few more range trips behind me, the trigger will loosen up. I also agree with your assessment of the narrowness of the trigger, I’m thinking that there’s gotta be a wider target trigger or one of those old-timey target adapters… we’ll see! Really good review, I subbed!
For zeroing purposes, I've tried about a dozen different brands of ammo in my attempt to get a grouping under 3-inches from a rest at 25-yards. With a single-action trigger pull that exceeds the factory standard of 5 pounds, it's virtually impossible. I'd sure like to see Power Custom make a jig adapter for this revolver so that the sear can be recut for a lighter pull.
I actually like the fact that this revolver is trimmed down a little more than the 617. When it comes to .357 or larger I’m not necessarily a fan of seeing metal removed but on a .22 LR you can get by with a much smaller frame. I like though that they kept it big enough to still be considered a full-size revolver. Thank you for your content Buffalo. God bless you and your family!
Thanks for your honest review. Colt has a small rebate going on now and I was tempted to buy one but already have a 617. The trigger pulls you measured are the biggest negative for me. Beautiful revolver but I value performance overall over beauty so will pass.
Great review Buffalo. I am starting to believe that Colt is putting a lot of emphasis behind the quality of their revolvers rather than simply continuing them out of tradition like Smith does.
That is one georgeous revolver!!! However, the single action trigger pull is about double what it should be. My S&W model 17 22LR single action trigger pull is 2lbs and I never have a light strike.
Most of the videos and written reviews I've seen say the same thing. That's why I said in the video that this one has a heavier trigger pull than what others are reporting. I just don't know for sure why. Other than for sighting in I'll never use the SA mode but I'd still like to know.
For nearly 1000 dollars the quality of my colt was poor trigger pull very heavy. I sent the gun back to colt when it came back trigger pull much better but now bad grit an was skipping timing. This not only my opinion but two of my friends had same problems was sent back to colt for the second time. I'm waiting for the return I hope all Issues will be resolved. this time.
Same boat. Mines been a mess. Trigger return spring broke at 4400 rounds. Colt said over the phone they’ll never sell parts for these guns, so any minor issue it has to go back to Colt. Hilariously disappointing
Got a couple of snakes I had to get this one! Love it, Thanks for the great video. I also picked up a speed beez speedloader kit for it, it's pretty cool. Has 10 circles of 10 rounds and a spot for the loader You could preload the box before heading to the range and drop them right in. I also have the Smith & Wesson 617 6-in barrel 22LR. I like the colt better, the Smith seems to be spitting lead abnormally and the timing/cylinder might be off and not lining up, as I get a welded lead buildup on the left side around the forcing cone.
Been patiently waiting for this one! I agree on the grip. The smallish rubber grip makes the gun feel weird and honestly kind of cheap in my hands. I handled the 357 target model a few days ago and it felt like a totally different gun.
Good channel, nice review. I need to look at finding me one of these Colts or the Ruger GP100 and SP101 in 22lr. Thr trouble is just finding one. I dont see them anywhere and that makes me think theyre an low production item.
That's good to know. I honestly didn't know how you guys would take me dropping a 30 minute video on ya. So far, at least for the most part, the feedback has been positive. I appreciate it!
Wow. Clockwise rotation? Do all colts rotate clockwise? My first gun is a s&w 63 22 6 shot. Last gun I’d ever part with for purely sentimental reasons. I’d love to have a newer 8 shot but like I said I’d never give mine up. Also had a 686 in 357 until somebody stole it and would def buy a 686 over a python. THIS gun though is too cool. I just love the looks of it. I’m sure it’s way heavier than my 63 but I can’t get over how beautiful that gun is.
It's hard to get an accurate peak reading with the revolver held by hand. The best way to get consistent results is to setup in a jig or rest. Of course its not the sapce shuttle, but great video none the less👍👍
Nice gun there Buffalo ! I'm hoping and waiting for a 22 mag version or even a convertible option "dreaming" and a 8" barrel another dream I really like a longer barrel for off hand shooting !
I just shot my 6" KC .22 and was very impressed with the accuracy. The gun needed no sight adjustments. I did notice, as you pointed out, that the trigger pull was much heavier than the 4.25" I bought last year. (And I did get an occasional FF from certain makes of ammo.) I prefer your paper punching over the steel targets. You can get a better idea of the gun's capabilities when on paper. I don't know who these people are with 2 lb 617 pulls but my 617, 6-shot, no hole has a similar pull as my new KC. It is still very new. Do you wear special safety glasses when shooting iron sights to see the rear sight better? (I got old.)
Buff - that is one beautiful revolver and some good shooting too. But I wince every time you lay it down on that rough wooden bench .. how about a mat of some kind mate?
Is it just the noise that bothers you? That might be a microphone issue that I can take care of in my editing program. If it's a visual thing there's nothing I can really do to help that. I do appreciate the input though. That's one I have never heard before.
Ha. If it’ll last generations. Broke mine in 30 days by shooting 4400 rounds. Broken trigger return spring. Colt customer service told me over the phone that they’ll never sell or distribute parts for this gun. You’re stuck sending it back to Colt for the smallest of repair. That’s not something that’ll last a generation
"How many DA .22 revolvers do you need?!?!?" Buffalo: ALL of them! 😜 Seriously speaking, what frame did they build it on, Buffalo? Looks like the D frame as with the Detective Special/Agent? That would make it a re-named Diamondback. In any case, Colt should bring back the Diamondback in .22, .38 Special and, maybe, .22 Mag. Give it a beavertail type hammer (like the Python, Officers Model Match and the Diamondback had) BLUED, please! Good shooting. Of course, .22s are notoriously picky about what they like. Looks like a good start, though. I'll check out "Cranky Gun Reviews" You referred me to George at "Target Suite" a few years ago and I have enjoyed his channel since then. Thanks, Buffalo
ALL OF THEM is exactly right. I just can't help myself Gary. Embarrassingly, I don't know Colt frame sizes, I'm a S&W guy and this is my first Colt DA revolver. I've shot the new King Cobra, Python and Anaconda but I don't know Colt's frame size names. I have a lot to learn if I decide to get into collecting Colts like I do the S&Ws. I still watch George too, he's a good one!
@@buffalosoutdoors Well, the D frame Colts (Detective Special, Police Positive Special, Diamondback) are a little smaller than S&W K frame, larger than a J frame. The "I" frames and "E" frames are a little larger than the K frame (actually the same size as the L frame S&W). "I" frames have a frame mounted firing pin, E frames have a hammer mounted firing pin. Otherwise they are the same. Generally, .38s and .22s had hammer mounted firing pins, .357 magnums had frame mounted firing pins. They ALL have frame mounted firing pins now (with transfer bars) since 1969. I like my .22 DA revolvers also! I have 2 S&W J frames (Model 34 and 43) a K frame Model 17 and a Colt Officer's Model Match E frame. I had a Colt Diamondback .22 in the 70s. I wanted a .38 Special but all I could find was a .22 LR. I ended up trading it for a S&W Model 19 2-1/2", which I still have and carry. Who knew the .22 Diamondbacks were going to turn out to be the more valuable?!?!? 🤦🏼♂ I rarely sell or trade guns because of experiences like that.
@@buffalosoutdoors And I am not sure the frame size on the Anaconda .44 Magnum. Colt had a larger frame size for their "New Service" revolvers. I think that is what it is. I have a Colt 1917 .45 ACP which is on the New Service frame. They're huge! Bigger than S&W N frames.
Oh yes!! What a nice pistol! Wow thanks for the shoutout Buffalo! I’m super Humbled!
You're welcome. You keep doing what you're doing. You're making good videos and representing us in the right ways.
@@buffalosoutdoors thanks! 🙏
Colt has really resurrected itself (under CZ leadership) with beautiful product !!! Like the movie says….build it and they will come !!!
Yep!
No doubt some human talent got borrowed from DW (also a CZ company) to help.
Now if DW would just get back into their revolvers, love their interchangeable barrels.
@@JD-tn5lz Maybe they'll offer some Colts with interchangeable barrels?
Love your 22 revolver reviews. Double action 22 lrs are too fun
I’m an addict and have no intentions of recovering. I love these things. Thanks for watching.
I'm with you@@buffalosoutdoors LOVE them 22's!!!
Sometimes you can just tell by the way a man talks that he's going to tell it to you like it is.
Another great review from the best gun reviewer on youtube
Thank you. This one was pieced together more than any other video I’ve ever made. I’m glad it pulled together enough to be enjoyable!
Am I the only one impressed by the target moving forward? I have no idea how to do that video effect. Very cool. Looking forward to the comparison with SW 617.
I noticed that too and was quite impressed with buffalo's filming and editing skills! Very polished , just like that colt!!
Glad you like that. It took some time to learn how to take the picture in picture from the downrange camera and crop out the target and then slowly enlarge it but I like the way it came out. It's always nice when others notice your work too so I really appreciate the comment and I will incorporate that edit into future videos as well.
@@buffalosoutdoors Yes that was awesome! You can't even see where you cropped it. I thought I was seeing things at first. Totally professional. I bet all the other gun guys start copying this. I tried learning DaVinci Resolve so I know how hard video editing is.
@@MikeStallings2023 Well I sure appreciate the feedback. I like experimenting and I don't know what people like if they don't say anything. I use Magix Vegas. I have the Pro Edit subscription where I just pay a monthly fee for all the updates. I've been using it for years but I still have a lot to learn on there.
@@buffalosoutdoors I am retired and healthy and energetic, but I do not have the energy or eyesight to do video editing. That is hard work. I appreciate those who can do it, but it is not for me.
that colt is a masterpiece . s&w kowtowed with that hillary hole ,thats a total dealbreaker
Just don’t use it if it bothers you, that’s what I do
Ok...OK!!!!
This is, most likely, one of your TOP 5 videos since the beginning of this incredible show!!!
You went all out and it shows. Fantastic work Buffalo!! Every aspect of this wheelie is covered in fine detail. And by the way Colt, put a dadgum allen wrench in the case!!!
Keep doing what you do so we can keep doing what we do. Thanks Buffalo.
Thanks my man! I say this every time but I always appreciate your comments! Been here since day one and I appreciate every one of em!
I’ve been on gun UA-cam for a long time your the only channel that I still get excited for when I get a upload notification
I’m glad you still enjoy my videos! Thanks for this comment!
When you are reviewing a jewel like this, 30 minutes is not long enough. At least for me. I cannot afford one so watching you review it is a huge bonus.
Thanks for that. You know, everything about my YT analytics says NOT to make a 30 minute video. It's a waste of time and energy. But this is what I like to do so I'm going to do it my way. I'm glad that people are liking it. It makes it all that much more satisfying. I appreciate you my friend.
@@buffalosoutdoorsI am watching every bit of this video on this wonderful revolver. I hope that I can get one of these someday.
Hammer time. Way to go Buffalo. I love to hear that steel sing.
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Great vid Buffalo. Always a good day when you post. I have the python and love it.
I’ve had SOOOO much fun with Aguila Colibris in revolvers. That’s a nice Cobra!
@@HillbillyMusings I enjoy the Colibris too! Thanks.
Agreed, Buff, that FREEDOM is the Greater Good! The banjo music at the close of your videos is pretty darn good, too! 👍
Glad you enjoy it!
Excellent video. I saw no continuity problems that detracted from the quality of the review. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Finally ! A rimfire gun that isn’t that God-forsaken tactical garbage !
Buffalo you hooked a new subscriber, really enjoyed your video on this revolver.
@@jimclark6883 glad to have you! Much appreciated.
Greetings from Australia, Buffalo. Great review, as always. I'm looking forward to a comparison review with S&W 617, which i have in 6-inch. You can't beat .22 lr revolvers. I was wondering about the beard until i saw the snow.😊
The 617 is an awesome .22 revolver. Yeah I got a little winter growth going on. I plan on keeping it until we open the campground in late March. Thanks for watching and greetings from Kentucky!
Always enjoy hearing your common sense observations and seeing your excellent marksmanship.
What a beautiful finish on this revolver. As for dislikes of it, the trigger guard seems misshapen compared to a Smith, but maybe that’s just me. Glad to see Colt is still capable of producing quality firearms.
Your high quality of content is worth 30 minutes of my time!
Thanks so much. I gotta admit. I didn't know how you guys would react when I dropped a 30 minute video. I mean I enjoyed putting it together but that didn't guarantee that you guys would like it.
Buffalo, I really appreciate the high production quality you are doing with your videos! Such as bringing the 2nd camera view of the target up to the front so we can see the hits "in real time", the great views of the guns on the table top reviews and even the wide variety of camera shots you provide of your property/range. Oh...this gun appears to be awesome. I want one, but just not at $1000. Maybe I can find a used one some day.
Thanks for this comment! Obviously I like hearing this kind of feedback as I put a lot of effort into the videos. It's nice when someone notices!
Love the longer videos my dude, keep up the great work
Beautiful gun. I paid over $800 for my GP100 10 round 22 LR a couple years ago. Mine has a 5.5 inch semi-lug barrel profile. I do not like the full lug profile so I chose the Ruger GP100 and three points of cylinder support. Over the 617 S&W but the Colt is a beautiful revolver.
I like them all.
WOW... that first group.
I watch a ton of Guntoobers. You are in my top 5. Love this channel. Thanks for doing what you do from one revolver guy to another.
Thank you, I really appreciate that. People ask me what I get out of doing this. It's comments like this. Knowing people enjoy it.
i absolutely agree that gun/load have to be bench rest tested once things are dialed in you can go out in the field with some degree of confidence. Otherwise you are just guessing.
Buffalo, I saw a 6 inch SS gun with wood grips on Guns International. Cabana’s had several. I bought one and got it today. It has a good sized horse on the bottom of the grips. Great looking gun.
Love all the snake guns. Colt also had the Diamondback in .22lr.
I never had a Diamondback but always wanted one. Thanks for the comment.
I love your videos not only because of the topics but you have such excellent videography. It takes a lot of skill and time to make videos this nice.
Color me highly impressed by the ignition reliability of this gun. Surely the biggest problem with .22 revolvers besides running out of ammunition is light striking. Going 100% is close to unbelievable.
Of the good number of rimfire revos I've had, only one was this reliable; coincidentally or not, also a Colt.
It was a Colt Trooper .22. They built a couple of thousand supposedly for police training to transition to the Official Police and Trooper .357 guns (not to be confused with the later Mk III and V). These are E-frame guns, the same as the Python but they pre-dated the snake.
At the time, I had both the rimfire and magnum guns. One day at the club, I got to shooting the .22 for quite some time. Before I knew it, I'd expended something like 500 rounds or more.
I would hazard that the lack of rim recessing helps with ignition. Those recesses can quickly get clogged with firing residue and I know on my Smith Kit Gun, it quickly becomes necessary to positively thumb the rounds in with some emphasis to make sure they'll go bang.
Liking the looks of that double action trigger, too. The new Cobras that we've tried have had surprisingly good DA racks and we've had more than one lady student settle on a new Cobra has her first gun in part because of that (the other being the frame size being so suitable for smaller hands).
This is my first Colt .22 caliber revolver. I am impressed with it. Some have reported ignition issues with these revolvers but they also demonstrated very light trigger pull weights. It makes me wonder if Colt hasn’t stiffened the springs up a bit in these newer ones to eliminate that issue. I don’t know if that is the case or not. Either way this one with its stouter pull is setting off every ammunition I put through it. Thanks for the great comment.
I have been looking all over the internet. Wondering why on earth the cylinders had non recessed holes. And you are the only answer that I found that is actually convincing. What a good answer and good reason. And the fact that it probably does help cleaning up is also a great feature.
one less machining step@@optimistprime2751
Recessed chambers were specifically used with 22lr back in earlier times when balloon head cases and folded rim cases were used, and the case rims were weaker. It aided with ignition and protected the fragile rim and compound. It helps prevent the rim from expanding outwards on firing pin impact and contains it better. You can see it on many revolvers and semi autos. With today’s much better 22lr ammo it isn’t really needed, but, nor has it ever been known to detract from reliable ignition.
I guess my main question would be; what 22 ammo or guns are you using that it makes you feel like a revolver shooting 22 without ignition issues for a basic range session is a big deal? I can’t remember the last time I had a 22lr round fail to fire at this point. That’s through 10/22’s, Mark 4’s, LCR’s, NAA mini’s, Beretta 21’s, and on and on. Sure, maybe if I switch to the bottom of the barrel bulk packs I might see one failure in an afternoon of shooting, but I don’t shoot that, so I don’t see any.
The last point would be that it is these non-recessed pythons that have been having ignition issues apparently, and maybe solved it by increasing the hammer spring weight. 5-6 lbs for a single action target revolver is pretty heavy to have to go to so that you get reliable ignition, certainly more than many other single action 22 pull weights.
@@JimYeats early Colt .22’s did not have recessed chambers. The brass is stronger now but the rimfire case is basically manufactured the same. The balloon head case reference concerned early centerfire cartridges.
The Colt lock work is different than S&W, it requires a lot more work to balance out the V spring. And the trigger sear angles are much different. They feel much different.
The heavy single action is because of the drop test laws mandated in some states. The Colt can be tuned much lighter, my KCT .22 is about 2.5 lbs.
In the 1930’s Colt revolvers dominated National Match competition (the single action was easier to cock than the long action S&W) but they abandoned the Officer’s Model Match revolvers when semi autos started winning in .22 and the Colt National Match 1911 was used for both centerfire and .45 competition.
I bought the 6” version and had trouble concluding my shooting session! Loved the revolver and its accuracy. Now I need a go fund me account so I can afford more ammo!
That's a beautiful revolver
Thanks Rob!
Good Job Buffalo. You have made Colt proud!
Thank you.
Buffalo I believe it is heavier to deal with the light strikes and here is why. I purchased one in December of 2023 most likely the same run as yours and my trigger pull weights are 4.9pounds average of 3 single action pulls and 9.6 pounds average of 3 double action pulls. Though a friend of mine who has an early 2021 model which does have light strikes that we have been experimenting with to determine if it is trigger or a specific brand of ammo or a certain chamber in the cylinder has 3.2pound single action and 8 pounds double action. Interesting enough only the double action in his pistol has misfires. As usual GREAT video and detail and you beat me to the video as I was down and out sick for a while but on the mend now.
Glad you are feeling better my friend. And I had a suspicion that was the case but only having the one sample I didn't want to jump to any conclusions. Thank you.
Love mine, changed out rear sight to Wilson Combat sight. Shoots like a laser. P.S. change to Wood grips, a lot nicer than Rubber!
Great Review! My 2 month old king cobra 22 has the same trigger pull as yours does. A shade under 10 lb double, a shade over 5 lb single.
Great review and a perfect sized beautiful 22 revolver
Thank you
Thankfully to the best of my knowledge there is no 12 step program for us. This is something I give thanks for on a daily basis and something my long suffering wife bemoans on a daily basis. My latest is a S&W M17 Classic. This will compliment my Colt Officers Match 22, High Standard Sentinel & Double 9 and Iver Johnson 999 & 929. Not to mention the High Standard Model B, Ruger Bull barrel and Llama & Browning baby 1911s, Colt ACE and Kimber conversion units. Then there are the 3 Ruger Single Six’s and several Heritage Rough Riders. See thankful every day.
Cool revolver! I really like that you are showing it to us. I like me some .22 caliber double action revolvers. 👍👍👍. I would like the 4 inch one as well. I like that Colt has kept the barrel one piece and kept the hammer and trigger stainless as well,unlike Smith &Wesson. And no Hilary Hole either!
Buffalo, I agree about the Allen key. When they get something that small sometimes they're kind of hard to find and being that they are so small they really don't wear well as far as you're down key. So I agree with you. Totally good video and that's all I got to say about that
Thanks. Not everyone has a set of allen keys that small. If you got all the way to the range and realized you needed it to make an adjustment after paying a range fee that would be a bad day. At least for me I keep stuff like that and my range is only 200 yards from home. I was just thinking about the other guy. I always appreciate your comments! Thank you for watching my videos!
Buffalo Outdoors Wilson Combat has an aftermarket adjustable rear sight that is a vast improvement from that factory Colt rear sight.
I'm aware of the WC sight. In this video I am showing the Colt KCT .22lr in Stock form. Thank you.
Great video. A hoosier buddy at work watched the first 15 minutes we had at lunch and he was smiling at the plate shooting. He is new to shooting at 5 yrs. I have ruined him he is buying guns at a steady pace. Take care
Hey Scott. Always good to see you in the comments brother. Tell your buddy Buffalo says hey and it's an addiction that has no cure! These little .22s are just too cool. I can't stop.
Sweet revolver.
Hi Buffalo, very interesting video, it is nice to see a rimfire revolver tested like it needs to be tested. The gun seems accurate but I've seen you shoot with this kind of result with snubs as well, so the hand is good. Considering the gun per se, the fact that an outdoorsman's gun's rear sight needs a special tool to be adjusted isn't the best thing in the world and I wonder what the guys at Colt thought when they decided to build the rear sight this way. It is lighter than the 617 but I'm not of the idea I'd replace the 617 with this revolver, not as long as the rear sight remains the way it is.
You make good points. There are advantages to it as a target gun. It doesn't have clicks so you can dial it in more finely but then there is the whole needing a tool thing. And of course the set screw is very small and could be easily stripped out or lost if removed. It is odd that they chose this type of sight. Thanks for the great comment.
Thats a Nice one , weather last month not so much...once again awesome show !
Hey, when you do the head to head with the S&W. Could you do another test with the trigger gage. I have always heard after shooting a lot a trigger could smooth out. So I’m just curious. Love the wheel gun Wednesday. That’s a beautiful revolver. Thanks
Yes I will be doing another trigger pull test with both of them side by side. Thanks!
Brilliant editing, love to see target as you shot it.
Thank you! Glad you like that!
That's a beautiful revolver. Looks like a good shooter! Some walnut grips would look great on that pistol! I hope you enjoy it for many years to come, it is certainly an heirloom piece.
I was fortunate to find one a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I had to send mine back to Colt. The spent casings would bind after 20 rounds or 2 loads of you want to look at it that way. 100% on point about the grips and lack of an Allen key! This pistol deserves wood grips from Colt.
Man I hate to hear that you had to send it back. Well I sure hope they take care of you.
@buffalosoutdoors you win some you lose some. Good news is Colt customer service was pleasant to deal with. What I'd love to see from you? Maybe when the weather improves, a 10 shot showdown between the Colt, the 617 and the GP100. All 10 shot revolves but very different firearms.
Had the same issue. Full disassembly and reassembly with lots of lube fixed it for me. Must clean perfectly ever 500 rounds or reliability is gone.
Yeah… that dinky rear sight needing goofy sized allen keys was super disappointing.
Mines back at Colt now, on 25 business days, for a broken trigger return spring. Only took 4400 rounds. Colt refused to send the part, so just waiting on them to do the 5 minutes of work and send it back…
@nfaisnfgay I got mine back 2 weeks ago and took it to the range last week. Was also testing a Beretta 21a Ghostbuster so I had 7 different brands of ammo with me. Ran about 200rds through the Colt. Ejection was starting to hang up but nothing I couldn't clear with a firm palm strike to the ejection rod. Still too stiff to eject with just your thumb. Before sending it in the ejection was frozen after a 30rds. I had to push each casing out individually with a chamber flag. The Beretta unfortunately was a hot mess.
Great video.
I would like to have seen some chronograph shots to evaluate the pressure loss at the cylinder gap.
My 22lr Heritage Rough Rider with 6" barrel loses enough pressure that the 4.75" barrel model achieves higher velocities.
I'm sure that the Colt has an improved cylinder gap tolerance than the Heritage - but I was curious about how much better efficiency.
Cheers.
Got the revolver bug. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences.
Sir, I was quite impressed with your shooting as I heard pings on every steel plate shot! I liked your comparison with the different rounds, I need to do that with mine.
As the trigger goes, mine is also somewhat stiff but I’ve found it’s easing up a bit after shooting 3-400 rounds. Hopefully, after I get a few more range trips behind me, the trigger will loosen up. I also agree with your assessment of the narrowness of the trigger, I’m thinking that there’s gotta be a wider target trigger or one of those old-timey target adapters… we’ll see!
Really good review, I subbed!
Nothing like a good wheel gun, a great backpack/kit or just a gun to take on a quick hike up the hill (no grizzlies where I live)
Hey Buffalo, get ahold of a sw 648 in 22 mag. It will change your life!
For zeroing purposes, I've tried about a dozen different brands of ammo in my attempt to get a grouping under 3-inches from a rest at 25-yards. With a single-action trigger pull that exceeds the factory standard of 5 pounds, it's virtually impossible. I'd sure like to see Power Custom make a jig adapter for this revolver so that the sear can be recut for a lighter pull.
I actually like the fact that this revolver is trimmed down a little more than the 617. When it comes to .357 or larger I’m not necessarily a fan of seeing metal removed but on a .22 LR you can get by with a much smaller frame. I like though that they kept it big enough to still be considered a full-size revolver. Thank you for your content Buffalo. God bless you and your family!
It certainly has some advantages being a little trimmer. I always look forward to your comments. God bless you and yours as well.
New to your channel, and really liking your videos. Keep up the great work!
Glad to have you here. Thanks!
Good trainwreck! Thanks for reviewing in detail.
Just submitted a $10.00 Super Thanks. I enjoy your content very much.
Sweet revolver, this would be a great candidate for “A man’s got to know his limitations “.
It would for sure! Might have to do that.
Yes I made it to the end. Great video! Will be out to get my KC this weekend. Thx Buffalo
Nice detailed video, hopefully you can upload the King Cobra 22 vs S&W 617 video before the S&W rebate ends 🤞🏻
Cheers Buffalo! Very nice review, cool gun. Gonna check out the channel you mention.
Cheers! And thanks. He'll appreciate you checking it out even if you don't subscribe.
Thanks for your honest review. Colt has a small rebate going on now and I was tempted to buy one but already have a 617. The trigger pulls you measured are the biggest negative for me. Beautiful revolver but I value performance overall over beauty so will pass.
Great review Buffalo. I am starting to believe that Colt is putting a lot of emphasis behind the quality of their revolvers rather than simply continuing them out of tradition like Smith does.
Thanks James. I am really happy with this one. This is my only Colt revolver at this time.
That is one georgeous revolver!!! However, the single action trigger pull is about double what it should be. My S&W model 17 22LR single action trigger pull is 2lbs and I never have a light strike.
Most of the videos and written reviews I've seen say the same thing. That's why I said in the video that this one has a heavier trigger pull than what others are reporting. I just don't know for sure why. Other than for sighting in I'll never use the SA mode but I'd still like to know.
For nearly 1000 dollars the quality of my colt was poor trigger pull very heavy. I sent the gun back to colt when it came back trigger pull much better but now bad grit an was skipping timing. This not only my opinion but two of my friends had same problems was sent back to colt for the second time. I'm waiting for the return I hope all Issues will be resolved.
this time.
Same boat. Mines been a mess. Trigger return spring broke at 4400 rounds. Colt said over the phone they’ll never sell parts for these guns, so any minor issue it has to go back to Colt. Hilariously disappointing
Awesome video by my friend
Thank you!
Got a couple of snakes I had to get this one! Love it, Thanks for the great video. I also picked up a speed beez speedloader kit for it, it's pretty cool. Has 10 circles of 10 rounds and a spot for the loader You could preload the box before heading to the range and drop them right in.
I also have the Smith & Wesson 617 6-in barrel 22LR. I like the colt better, the Smith seems to be spitting lead abnormally and the timing/cylinder might be off and not lining up, as I get a welded lead buildup on the left side around the forcing cone.
Excellent review. Educational,informative and entertaining. Thanks
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
Hey, not bad at all for us right out of the box with a few adjustments. I think it did pretty good
THank you, I was happy with it.
😅brother you make the BEST PISTOL videos
Thank you!
Been patiently waiting for this one! I agree on the grip. The smallish rubber grip makes the gun feel weird and honestly kind of cheap in my hands. I handled the 357 target model a few days ago and it felt like a totally different gun.
Good channel, nice review. I need to look at finding me one of these Colts or the Ruger GP100 and SP101 in 22lr. Thr trouble is just finding one. I dont see them anywhere and that makes me think theyre an low production item.
Always a great vid! Thanks, Buffalo!
No problem watching this whole video, really enjoyed it, really well done 👍
That's good to know. I honestly didn't know how you guys would take me dropping a 30 minute video on ya. So far, at least for the most part, the feedback has been positive. I appreciate it!
Wow. Clockwise rotation? Do all colts rotate clockwise? My first gun is a s&w 63 22 6 shot. Last gun I’d ever part with for purely sentimental reasons. I’d love to have a newer 8 shot but like I said I’d never give mine up. Also had a 686 in 357 until somebody stole it and would def buy a 686 over a python. THIS gun though is too cool. I just love the looks of it. I’m sure it’s way heavier than my 63 but I can’t get over how beautiful that gun is.
I have a six inch on order, i knew I would never be able to afford a diamondback and these are better in everything but finish. (love that old blue)
Awesome!
man your steel plate shooting skill is really good!!!
Thank you!
On double action, you have some really steady hands my friend.
Thank you! It's the eyesight that I am having issues with now. Gotta get out there and get after it while I still can!
It's actually a 22-step program.
In 10 easy steps, you'll advance to the next 10 steps.
HAHA! I love it!
The only kind of therapy that gets people triggered, and that's the whole point.
That's a dandy! Ashamed to say that i have never owned a Colt. I guess the price is the main reason. Enjoy that beauty!!
It's hard to get an accurate peak reading with the revolver held by hand.
The best way to get consistent results is to setup in a jig or rest.
Of course its not the sapce shuttle, but great video none the less👍👍
Great job on the video, it’s really good, I was wondering when this one was gonna be up. Beautiful pistol buddy!
Nice looking PISTOLA 😉👍❗
Well done Colt ‼️ Always enjoy your reviews and your awesome marksmanship//😎🤙
Thanks! I appreciate you stopping by and leaving the comment.
Nice gun there Buffalo ! I'm hoping and waiting for a 22 mag version or even a convertible option "dreaming" and a 8" barrel another dream I really like a longer barrel for off hand shooting !
I'm sure they'll have more options come out as they go along. My wife will not like it one bit.
I just shot my 6" KC .22 and was very impressed with the accuracy. The gun needed no sight adjustments. I did notice, as you pointed out, that the trigger pull was much heavier than the 4.25" I bought last year. (And I did get an occasional FF from certain makes of ammo.) I prefer your paper punching over the steel targets. You can get a better idea of the gun's capabilities when on paper. I don't know who these people are with 2 lb 617 pulls but my 617, 6-shot, no hole has a similar pull as my new KC. It is still very new. Do you wear special safety glasses when shooting iron sights to see the rear sight better? (I got old.)
Buff - that is one beautiful revolver and some good shooting too. But I wince every time you lay it down on that rough wooden bench .. how about a mat of some kind mate?
Is it just the noise that bothers you? That might be a microphone issue that I can take care of in my editing program. If it's a visual thing there's nothing I can really do to help that. I do appreciate the input though. That's one I have never heard before.
Ah Buff I just hate to think of it becoming all scratched on the cylinder !@@buffalosoutdoors
That looks like a sweet wheelie gat!
Thanks!
Nice pistol! Yes looks like an heirloom for the generations.
Thank you! I think so too and hope it works out that way.
Ha. If it’ll last generations. Broke mine in 30 days by shooting 4400 rounds. Broken trigger return spring. Colt customer service told me over the phone that they’ll never sell or distribute parts for this gun.
You’re stuck sending it back to Colt for the smallest of repair. That’s not something that’ll last a generation
Beautiful piece of artwork
Good video I enjoyed as always. Nice gun but needs a wide target style trigger and a black front target sight.
Great video. Thanks very much. Ive been wanting one of these for a while and this video just moved it to the needing category.😂
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Well Buffalo, you made me fall in love with that pistol and need to find one.
It's pretty sweet! I wanted it for a long time but it took for what seemed like forever before one showed up around here.
Thanks Buffalo Stay warm!
You too! Thanks for watching!
Now you have me wanting to test one in the old ransom rest. You think sk pistol match ammo will do good in the revolver?
I think it would! I'd like to find out,
The first run in 2022 had the firing pin located at the 6 o’clock position. The latest run is at the 5 o’clock position.
I don’t think you could ask for better groups with the wind blowing
"How many DA .22 revolvers do you need?!?!?"
Buffalo: ALL of them! 😜
Seriously speaking, what frame did they build it on, Buffalo? Looks like the D frame as with the Detective Special/Agent? That would make it a re-named Diamondback.
In any case, Colt should bring back the Diamondback in .22, .38 Special and, maybe, .22 Mag. Give it a beavertail type hammer (like the Python, Officers Model Match and the Diamondback had)
BLUED, please!
Good shooting. Of course, .22s are notoriously picky about what they like. Looks like a good start, though.
I'll check out "Cranky Gun Reviews" You referred me to George at "Target Suite" a few years ago and I have enjoyed his channel since then.
Thanks, Buffalo
ALL OF THEM is exactly right. I just can't help myself Gary. Embarrassingly, I don't know Colt frame sizes, I'm a S&W guy and this is my first Colt DA revolver. I've shot the new King Cobra, Python and Anaconda but I don't know Colt's frame size names. I have a lot to learn if I decide to get into collecting Colts like I do the S&Ws. I still watch George too, he's a good one!
@@buffalosoutdoors Well, the D frame Colts (Detective Special, Police Positive Special, Diamondback) are a little smaller than S&W K frame, larger than a J frame. The "I" frames and "E" frames are a little larger than the K frame (actually the same size as the L frame S&W). "I" frames have a frame mounted firing pin, E frames have a hammer mounted firing pin. Otherwise they are the same. Generally, .38s and .22s had hammer mounted firing pins, .357 magnums had frame mounted firing pins. They ALL have frame mounted firing pins now (with transfer bars) since 1969.
I like my .22 DA revolvers also! I have 2 S&W J frames (Model 34 and 43) a K frame Model 17 and a Colt Officer's Model Match E frame.
I had a Colt Diamondback .22 in the 70s. I wanted a .38 Special but all I could find was a .22 LR. I ended up trading it for a S&W Model 19 2-1/2", which I still have and carry. Who knew the .22 Diamondbacks were going to turn out to be the more valuable?!?!? 🤦🏼♂
I rarely sell or trade guns because of experiences like that.
@@buffalosoutdoors And I am not sure the frame size on the Anaconda .44 Magnum. Colt had a larger frame size for their "New Service" revolvers. I think that is what it is. I have a Colt 1917 .45 ACP which is on the New Service frame. They're huge! Bigger than S&W N frames.