Settling woodworking's biggest controversy: EPOXY
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Are epoxy tables even actual woodworking? Let's find out.
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Talking crap about somebody else's creation or art form is just a low life thing to do, there's nothing wrong with using epoxy !!!!! You are sad and pathetic.
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What an epic ending! I think if it were your table, I'd vote for the spider base. But for your parents, it has to be the base that your mom used to love that you then chopped up for your own purposes to provide a gift to your mother of something that was already hers. 😂😂 But man alive, did that turn out looking GREAT! Well done!
Cliff hanger ending! 😂
You know you are in trouble when you are called by your "given name". Great build, great video.
If you hear all 3 names you know you ain't getting out of your room "until Jesus comes back." 🤣
Jonathan!
Do you really think that little part wasn't rehearsed?
The old table base for sure in my opinion. the spider legs looked cool as heck to be sure, but I really liked how it all came together with the updated 'vintage' legs. Great work!
Your Mom at the end! Priceless! Thank you for sharing all your efforts with honest commentary.
I think we'll all benefit from a supportive community without gatekeeping!
I think you made a great looking table even though it's not my personal taste. I don't feel the need to trash talk it because I wouldn't want it in my living room, I'm happy that people enjoy different things as long as they have something that brings them joy.
Great video, even better ending!! As a maker, not a woodworker, I'm kinda tired of anyone emphasizing how a real (fill-in-the-blank) creator would do something. Personally, I'm just delighted if anyone is creating anything. The act of creation, however it's done, is what I respect.
Love seeing you and Matt work together. It turned out stunning. Both bases are awesome but I think my vote would go to the reconditioned one if it going to be used as a dining table. Less banging of the knees. 😉
right? I concur...I looked at those spider legs and thought, ok but where do I put my legs? lol
I think the spyder base looks really cool and if you were doing this for a commisioned / production work absolutely the way to go. However, considering the circumstances you made the right call. Finding a way to give your parents a new table, sharing your skills while still incorporating a piece of their history will make it even more special and memorable down the line.
Thanks!
Dude went fishing in the pond for an actual woodworking video. Well done!
When epoxy is as expensive as it is there's a case to be made for filling the voids partially with other materials and leaving the epoxy for a thinner visible portion only. Obviously this only applies for more opaque epoxy color choices, transparent or semi-transparent colors may benefit from being an all epoxy pour for aesthetic reasons.
There’s a case to be made for throwing filler into anything lol. Cement is dirt cheap but I know guys that throw trash, leftover nails and broken masonry into every pour they make. It’s just fun I guess
M2 lumber is awesome. Great selection and pricing. I love that the lumber is local and professionally kiln dried
It was honestly so worth watching till the end to get your mother's response!! That was priceless, and I couldn't stop laughing for an hour....hahaha. Great project, loved all the aspects that you pointed out concerning the process.
That first table base looks like a Czech hedgehog. Flip the table over and you could stop tanks and trucks in their path. LOL
'Learn to compromise' is a good lesson to learn.
Watching Jon snack on walnuts while sanding pecan.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, you are currently making the best woodworkering, or in this case, wood-and-plastic working videos on youtube. Keep it up man! I'm looking forward to the wood finish video and the mitersaw station video.
I think the videos are out already
Option 2! Your mom's reaction was priceless, I hope she likes it. I think you did something spectacular and once she sees it will enjoy it for many more years to come.
The metal bases are nice, but they are beginning to feel played out.
If you want to get really zany, take that modern base and put in on the original top after some restoration work.
Love the ending! HA HA HA HA!!!
That is one gorgeous chunk o wood
Cam is a great one to watch for these too. You are proud, I'm sure.
The original base looks absolutely great with that table
Cool video. I have a lot more respect for these tables and the people that make them after watching the arduous process of creating one. I'm also surprised to say I like the base you made from your parents original dining table better than the metal base. Cheers!
Love the spider base. Much nicer sitting without hitting legs and the angles give you a place to put your feet :)
Nice table :)
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I think the pecan with the deep black accents looks really nice, and both bases look great under it. I'm an old, so if I had to choose, I'd probably go with the upcycled base, mainly because it just looks more traditional.
Happy Father's Day!
Ah man, the way this video ends.. LOL.
SO glad you decided to go all in on UA-cam.
That was the best part of the video!
All epoxy thoughts aside, the final product looks great, and for most people who don't spend hours out of their week watching woodworking videos on youtube, that's what matters most so well done! I'm torn on the bases, both honestly look good to me.
Your Mom's reaction: Priceless! I am still laughing :)
She didn't break out your middle name, so we probably can assume you're not in too much trouble.
Cool project. I like the repurposed base better. Thank for sharing.
Chef’s Kiss for the use and placement if that Happy Gilmore clip. I literally laughed out loud 🤣
Thanks for this video! I have been wondering what the anti-river table crowd truly had issues with. The “maker” in us I think is what brings us together, and I was so glad to see you reusing the old base (woodworking). To me (none domino owner) I always feel that the domino is cheating at woodworking, but then I just suffered through making two bedside tables with 36 mortise and tenon joints each. Maybe I’m just jealous; after all I had no problem using my jointer and plainer instead of Han plains. Respect for the Makers!
I agree, and even John has a hard time getting past digs at the epoxy crowd many times in this video. Epoxy is just another medium to mix with wood. Do those who grouse about it or even question if it is woodworking say the same about those who use manufactured metal legs like he proposed in this same video? It is another non-wood substance that in this case is actually replacing the wood entirely whereas the epoxy is united with the wood in the project. Your point about the domino is just as valid, planers too. We can all come at these things from a certain perspective. And I will admit, I sometimes have a hard time with the CNC crowd, but I also know how much time and effort goes into programming and setting it up, so I cannot say it isn't "making" just because a machine did it. Again, I have a power machine for making wood flat, a hand plane is a more primitive machine for making wood flat. A CNC is an even more powerful tool than I have that can . . . make wood flat and more. I would love to hear an actual argument (critical points backed with evidence, not mere ranting) from those who claim that river tables aren't woodworking.
This is fantastic adaptation of the existing table base. That's how I got my start in woodworking, just making furniture for my family.
The ending is epic! When we heard your mom say your full name, I think most of us recognized that sound of surprise and possibly disappointment and could all relate. Hilarious!
Also, the table turned out really great. I'm not a huge fan of river tables in general, but this one looked really beautiful and I guess I would probably be happy to have it in my home. But not for $3000. That's just crazy talk.
At least he didn't get "three named". LOL
Hang on! I thought she was just acting.
Woodwork or not this video is great entertainment - Well done on a great project!
I really love your videos, how much down to earth are they and the fun. Matt is also a gem. Thanks for the show!
My favorite part? When you opened the drawer to get the Drumel. I have a drawer just like that.🤣 Loved the ending!!!!
This is THE MOST ENTERTAINING woodworking channel on you tube!!!!
How dare you leave us with a cliffhanger.. I almost got a heart attack from that ending.. good thing I have life insurance from policygenius
Loved this video, it is destined to be one of your “ classics “. The end is priceless. Oh and the table looks amazing!!! Great work👌
I'm not a fan of epoxy/river tables either but, i think this table turned out looking awesome. I think option 2 for the base looks best
Agreed. And maybe the premade bases are a reason some woodworkers look down on river tables? I think I like the second in part because it was crafted, and crafted well!
Matt was great! Good camera presence and very clear when explaining
the ending was epic🤣
I can’t believe Blacktail Studio didn’t show you his one of a kind, groundbreaking, earth shattering techniques.
I actually like your modified base. Seems more appropriate for the table and the room.
I love your open and honest approach, and the way you include all the hiccups along the way.
The end result is a beautiful piece of furniture, one of the best I've seen. The black really compliments the wood finish.
I prefer the remodelled base.....because it looks stylish and involved woodworking.
Cheers from across the pond.
Woodworking (and/or epoxy river table) videos need more twist endings like this. Thoroughly entertaining. Even though you've scared me from ever trying to make one of these myself.
Table looks great, video is awesome, you and Matt click well!! Thanks for the opportunity to assist!!
Easily one of your best videos to date. Loved every moment of this. Thank you for all the work you put into your content. Inspiring and hilarious. Bravo!
Beautiful table and the metal base is by far the nicest
That was phenomenal. May be the first table of that style that I can really say. I loved It
Thank you!
I’ve watched a UA-cam video from a resin supplier where they explained that if you have a large area requiring lots of resin then fill it with a strip of plywood therefore reducing the volume of resin required and saving money
Lol that was great especially your mom at the end 😊
Dude, I could spend 30 hours just looking at that top! I prefer the repurposed base, but it's Mom's decision, right? Loved the ending!
you guys both have a natural presence on camera, great job!
Great video mate. I think the the fact you pointed out how long the prep time is for finish was great. I think a lot of other UA-camrs skip those details out, which really helps the Maker Community out. Again, loved the video and the table is sensational!
Here for the algorithm. And to cast my vote for mom's favorite table base. Definitely option #2.
Had no idea we were going to get a lesson in Integral Calculus like we got at 9:00. That was sum good content right there.
The repurposed table legs look great! Well done on the entire project!
That table is sick!!! Great work!!
One of the best endings to a wood working video. Brilliant
Im from York County SC. Didnt know we have a mill in the upstate. That's awesome! Definitely earned my subscription & support.
Great build John.... Love how you repurposed the old legs.... Keep up the good work!
M2 is great. Good guy, also presented at our Greenville Woodworkers Guild a while back.
I don't particularly want to make one myself, but it was fun watching you make yours.
It's funny how Matt looks so much like Rob McElheny.
Yes, it is woodwork, and yes, they are beautiful. AND your table looks AMAZING! I wish I could afford one.
Great video, as always.
Nice build. I like the up-cycled base better personally and thought you did a great job on it. Planning a slab/epoxy table for our kitchen and will have same challenge as you having a small one man shop.
I love the end of the video. You should more like that, little things that not many people do sometimes add up better.
How cool is that, making a river table with Ron Howard!!!
To save on epoxy, use wood instead. Pour a 1/4"-1/2" epoxy base and let it harden. Then fill your remaining space with scrap woods. Pour another 1/2" and let that harden. Then do your final fill pour. You can save a TON of epoxy this way. Obviously this only works if you are using opaque colors.
lol, the ending is pretty funny. nice work
I like the upcycled base better. Nice job on the table. Cam would like it too.
I haven't made a river table, but I took on a woodworking project last year and used pieces of wood that had loads of knots and some check cracks, which I decided to fill with epoxy. Dealing with the epoxy was much more work than I envisioned. I overpoured/overfilled some of the areas. Since I did multiple passes, I had to mix a couple small batches, and I didn't quite get the proportions right on the small batches, which led to epoxy that didn't harden, which I then had to scrape off and redo. It was a massive pain and way more work than I envisioned. In the end, I'm happy that I filled in a bunch of knots and cracks, but I didn't love the process of working with the epoxy. Still, if I had the same project again and had to use the same wood again, I'd probably use epoxy again, although I'd be much much more careful with the mixing and pouring to avoid overfilling.
Your table looked great in the end.
Tossing a vote in for spider base. This was a fun ride!
Not a fan of river tables but that pecan is beautiful! Nice work sir.
Love your humour your hard work and your willingness to try new things. Looks great 👍🏻
What a great post!! I really like the older base. I always look forward to a new video from you. Always wanted to do a river table but probably never will.
Love how you are ripping on epoxy tables not being actual woodworking, but you do buy that finish from one of the biggest epoxy woodworkers out there :D
Who said Cam is a woodworker 🙃
I love your channel, and this build was amazing. I prefer the base from your parents' old table. It looks simple, elegant and highlights the tabletop. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge with us.
The upcycled base for sure. The spider base does look cool, but I also think it's more likely to look dated in the future. The repurposed base has a timeless quality to it.
Nice work and great video, Jon. Enjoyed seeing you and Matt in the shop and now in the video. And fun that I built something with a slab of the same pecan tree.
I do look forward to the epoxy table fad going away.
I agree….river tables are not my favorite, I would never choose to buy one, but I can appreciate the work that goes into them..!!!
Very happy to see another video! I actually manually creeped the channel about 12 hours before you released this video. Guess I had a feeling it was coming!
I think you did an awesome job on extending the wooden base, but I think the spider base goes better with the whole package.
Agreed!
this was awesome. I think your point about re-defining the question makes a lot of sense as well. loved your mom's reaction at the end. 🤣
Soooo Good!!!!!❤😂😊 this was so entertaining, and the final scene was epic!!!
Excellent job, man! Glad to have you on here making movie and woodworking magic for our viewing and maker’s pleasure.
Happy Father’s Day too!
"Jonathan!!!" Perfect coda!
I always appreciate your videos -- the content and the style. Keep up the great work (epoxy river tables notwithstanding)!
Great job John! Love your humor too.
Great build! I like both bases. I think the spider one is cooler now but may date the table in a decade or so.
great table Jon! love the spider base - Matt is a great guy, love the collabs!
Going for that Andy Slye Tesla thumbnail, very nice 👌
Great job man, I really enjoyed this(especially since I wasn’t doing the sanding). I like your repurposed base better.
The only thing I hate more than river tables is river table videos. But I managed to watch almost your whole video. I like your sense of humor, you had me laughing. Also, since I've been working wood for only 40 some years, it was good to finally get some instructions on how to sand. Thank you
This one was fantastic to watch. I tried making one of these pretty early into learning how to woodwork and that was a mistake. I know at some point I've got to come back around and at least get one successful attempt at this in.
Love your humorous take on an otherwise tedious and lengthy project. I think the reclaimed base is the way to go. It looks great and the family history involved is a great addition overall.
I met Matt at M2 lumber since I live in the upstate of South Carolina. Really nice guy.
As a woodworker, I normally can't stand epoxy tables etc but this one is very tasteful! Beautiful piece of timber and non garish Epoxy.
Great video Jon! You had quite the adventure on this one and the results look awesome!
Wishing u all the best on this new, full time endeavour … really enjoy your efforts!
Great video. Love the Superfast Matt refs in there as well. I do like the spider base, just depends on how stable it would be if someone sat on an end
I thoroughly enjoy all your videos, regardless of the particular content. I just want to hang out with you in your shop and listen to you talk. You make me laugh and teach very well. Thanks for taking the time and making the effort for all your videos. -M
I did a desk for my wife out of a pecan slab. Yes, sanding. And more sanding. And then some sanding....
awesome looking table! the ending though LOL