Lili kinda feels like a stealth "learn the matchup" character. You need to really know your options for checking her sidestep cause what might work on the rest of the cast likely won't apply to her.
Unlike most other female chars in tekken, Lili doesn't have too many gimmicks. That's why I find her fun to play against too. It's a shame she doesn't have all the fundamental tekken tools, she has her own set of tools, or she would be higher up the tier list. What's funny is that I'm a mishima+akuma player but I just can't play Lili. I dunno why but her moves seem very awkward to use, whether it's their timing or range.
@@edgelord121 tell me your light blue without saying your light blue... Play and love love Lili! But she sucks, I meet her in sub 20 below genbu and she sucks, it's all flip flop snake edge
I'm a Miguel, Josie and Panda main. As bad as the bears are, they've taught me to improve my defense and punishment oddly enough. Plus patience, you're going to have a lot of it to play Panda.
@@josephquezada6138 Panda was the recent addition, I saw a friend play Kuma and thought he was onto something with the character. It's been just over a year with Panda and I've been having a ton of fun.
thats because no beginner plays Claudio. He doesn’t have good poking and it’s not easy to utilize his very limited moveset. He has the highest win/loss ratio for a non dlc character simply bc more higher ranks play him
Im a Steve main and agree he will never be bad because of his design. He's a CH character. In the hands of player with good tekken fundamentals he's deadly. Execution is hard af tho.
picked him as my first char and learned to do shiro combo when I was arond light blue rank, the first time my fingers hurt when im learning a combo. But man, hitting it online was so satisfying
As a asuka main, she is definitely underated but not the best, a pro/caster once said, “she is great for a best of 1 match instead of like first to 3 or first to 5 “
I main Bryan, he's a counter hit monster and his wall pressure/damage is probably the best in the game outside of Hwoarang, but to really make him shine you gotta go for the hard stuff and the hard stuff is f*cking hard lol.
Bryan is famous for his wall game and ch launchers in the game for a reason, he's not matched even by hwo and I'm only talking about the b4 jet upper ff4 basic combo which is 87 damage on it's own and I'm not even talking about 3 3 2 wall splats, he's only matched by 2d which are completely broken (I'm a Jin main)
Whats hard about him besides taunt? WS3 combos give him ridiculous damage and ridiculous wall travel with B3,F,2,1 You can't really sidestep him cause hatchet tracks to the right, 1+2 and DF4 are fully homing. All he lacks in my opinion is a whiff punishing launcher, F4 is too slow.
@@lostboy2637 It's hard to explain, there are some high level streamers who do crazy high execution stuff with him all the time, but referring to my notes: Converting off a magic 4, not magic 4,3,4(hold), but magic 4, micro dash, jab to conversion requires heavy execution. ws1 > qcf2,1 > conversion - not super challenging, but you do have to wait for the ws1 animation to be done before you can go for the qcf2,1. Linking qcb2,4 in juggles requires solid execution, especially depending on the combo route. fb2 > qcf3 > qcf3 > qcf3,4 > ff2 - the ff2 requires pretty tight execution. Linking qcf2,1 after counter hit ff4 requires a bit of execution because you have to do a quick micro dash after ff4. He also has juggle routes with instant fc2,1 and that shit can get silly, I haven't even made it to a point to even go for those and just opt for the easier spins. Bryan has some crazy execution heavy stuff. Of course you can play him vanilla af and that'll do ok, but at a certain level vanilla/basic Bryan just doesn't work because he has no real mixups, outside of hatchet kick/punt kick and his moves are pretty easy to recognize - qcb2,4 - 4 is high, b2,1 - 1 is high, d3,2 - 2 is high, 1+2,1 - 1 is high, granted he does have an unsafe mid option from 1+2. Again, his counter hit tools, wall damage/pressure/carry, and overall damage is super good, so I'm definitely not saying he's a weak character, but he takes some skill to make him stand out.
@@jamessummers5936 Thank you! I main Bryan, and all of these are literally the struggles you would have right at the start. His moves/combos aren't connecting well too, for example: just try using hatchet against a grounded character that is 2° not on the same plane as you (for a move that is entirely a low, this is stupid). No good panic moves, very high pokes (which can be evaded). Most of the strong moves can be sidestepped (if you think it doesn't apply to a strong move, try sidestepping it on the other side) He is strong-ish, but he isn't dumb by any means.
@@HellexTV I don't think Hatchet hits grounded, usually a quick step left and punt kick will connect on a grounded opponent, or at least it's not consistent to hit grounded. Neutral Orbital is a great panic move of his. He has some solid pokes, db3 and db4 | df2 | df2,1 | 1+2 | d2 and d3. He has some tools for sure.
As a Lili main, I can confirm, we work with what we have. The tech Lili mains know from this character are insane and rarely spotted…. Which is what we like about the character; under the radar. We do want a better df1 though 😂
Leo has some moves that change drastically depending on execution. Qcf2 and uf2,1 are good examples of that, If you can iws3 into Full combo with two f4 cancels those moves cause a LOT of damage, but without that they do a bit of damage and push the opponent away
Iws3 add a lot of damage to otherwise lower dmg easy conversions but they are also hard af. F4 loops barely add dmg and aren't worth attempting most of the time unlike ws3 which is almost always worth attempting if you can do them. Problem is uf2,1 is lowkey a knowledge check because players that know the mu will punch sabaki/ssr duck it and steal their turn back or launch you. I wish that move didn't have that gap and it could just be used as a safe mid launcher if you have the execution. Also the dmg on both conversions are lower compared to avg damage around the cast
I genuinely hope Lidia returns for Tekken 8! She's super fun and enjoyable to learn her strengths and weaknesses. She makes the Leroy and Feng MU much more exciting to play.
yes finally anna and kazuya is pretty much both pure 50/50 char , i swear if you play kaz or anna you should try the one of the other and u would probably find how fun they're if you want both try bob its pretty much anna + kazuya lovechild
Not a fan of bob’s gameplay or design at all. However Kazuya and Anna are the BEST characters in the game imo. They really are fun. Electrics and slaps all day!
Completely agree with the comment above. Kaz and Anna feel dope to play, even without going for the mid-low 50/50s, sometimes just mixing timings is great 👌🏾 Bob feels like a potato, his moves look dumb and his mixup feels more braindead. Definitely not a "love child" of the aforementioned two, more like a discarded condom.
Gigas DLC in Tekken 8 with a cool rework and Marduk in the base roster since he's already so much fun. Then of course all the other Big chars like Bob, Gany, Fahk, Jack-8 and Kuma in the base roster. It would be lit !
Not really that easy but still on the easier end, but not incredibly hardcore like how some people oversell it Besides Taunt setups and requiring pristine KBD cancels, he's alright
Noctis before was just a big sword and long spear. 50/50 Both got nerfed (fixed) and buffed on his other tools instead. Now he plays Tekken while also being whiff punishment god.
Not any less difficult than half of the cast, so 🤷♂️ But doing taunt setups in a match is difficult, and isn't as a brain-dead move like some of the SS tier characters have.
I'm a Lili, Eddy, and Xiaoyu main. Lili's buffs are really good. The only buff I don't agree with was when they made her f4 a counter hit launcher. I think it's too strong personally. I'm also kind of iffy about her having ff3 as a ling range safe launcher, especially being at -3 when we cancel it. Xiaoyu is just doing xiaoyu things tbh. They keep buffing her, I don't really mind. I'm surprised you didn't mention her db2. Eddy is bad ONLY because he doesn't have a usable sidstep. Eddy actually has good range, frames, pokes, damage, his moves have great hitboxes (except his df1 :/ ). When they gave him his new wall combo, it was a game changer. It flips over so he can do a safe ss4 on oki no matter hif you techroll or not and block it. Also when they made his RLX 4 a counterhit launcher, which was much needed.
I was going pretty fast but I really should have mentioned ling db2 lol as for Eddy I think he needs more than that still. And for me it's not Lili f4 but her ff3 that's the overkill
@@SuperAkouma What more do you think eddy would need? Also, I forgot to mention that HSP (Handstand Position) is pretty bad. I'd say it's one of the worst stances in the game
Kinda disagree on her f4 being too strong, I think with bow easy it is to step and how Lili needs CH tools, it was a decent addition. Her ff3 I think is fine now, it's a great whiff punisher now and Lili doesn't do ridiculous damage like alot of the other cast does so it's fair to me, plus the cancel into dew glide leaves her open anyway to a hit unless the opponent second guesses themselves and chooses to block out of fear they'll finish the string
@@Maso_Prince I highkey feel as if you're not as knowledgeable about this subject seeing as you said the cancel off of ff3 dewglide leaves her open. I already mentioned that it was -3 meaning it doesn't leave her open, also she's evasive on block when she goes into dewglide and when she cancels it. She still doesn't need f4 counter hit. What they could bring back is her ub1 counter hit in substitute for keeping people in check. F4 also has some tracking at tip and mid range just like her cartwheel.
@@AfroKing. Actually I am, I'm a lili main and know the ins and outs about her. The cancel may be -3 but she's still taking a risk going into dew glide since the foe can still attempt a jab, especially if she whiffs the ff3 and tries to cancel. Lili canceling into DG isn't gonna safe her necessarily since she can also cancel from other moves like u3 and b1 etc but that's still a risk. I think it's fine as a launcher since ff3 itself was a bit useless before when you have her df3+4. As a more ranged CH fighter I think the new ff3 makes her a stronger whiff punisher
Master Raven is a very underrated and unique character indeed, but to do very good with her you need to play very risky, because many of her moves end in her back turn where she's very vulnerable, you need to be very versatile and unpredictable with her, I mainly use her because she resemble Naruto characters in her fighting style and because of her unorthodox approach, for me she's B+ and maximum A in the right hands of use in the Tier List, because she's the type of High Risk-High Reward character. ☯️
100% agree with you, shes a high risk high reward, I'm a raven main myself. I learned a lot fighting high levels as I constantly have to adjust my mixups etc. I also mained her cuz she resembles Ninjas & Naruto 😂 Very underrated character indeed
King main here. I'm still finding some stupid, sometimes broken(maybe) oki mix ups with king, almost after every move that knocks down near the dude, if you guessed wrong, you dead yo
I've always been a feng main and i want him nerfed because I miss being kinda lowkey lol. He doesn't need high combo dmg. I been playing leo and i believe she's extremely underrated
ok so this is the first time ive heard super akouma speak. i knew he was french because of watching tournees, but i never realized how FLUENT he is. like i actually needed to double take to make sure i was hearing things correctly lol
As a Josie main, hearing that she does no damage is a wild take considering how good her wall carry is and her delayed wall ender flip over which often leads to half a life bar 9/10 and oki with a wall splat command throw and good pressure mids. Highly underrated character that has a decent amount of tech/set ups, good counter hitting moves, far from low damage(as someone who has a S+ in combo damage) and not to mention a really good sway that she can cancel into instant crouch dash 2s to launch highs or crumple launch with sway 1 not to mention her parry which isn't as strong as the others cause it can only be used on right hand attacks does like 50 or 60 damage for free.
As far as I agree with you, being a Josie secondary, I'd say her damage falls apart when she is not on a wall stage and smart players will use it at their advantages
what's fun about tekken for me is that I was always a mortal kombat player. so, I'm a ninjakilla fanboy and I'm always amazed by his inhumane cancel combos in mkx, so I decided to play a character with a similar style. picked up law, love playing him, but I find it funny how I picked him because he looked very technical and execution heavy but ended up finding that he is universally hated for being super cheap and braindead 😆 amazing how you can have multiple different players using the same character and every one of them may have a completely different style
fuck the haters law is based. no matter who you pick, some thin skinned scrub online hates that character more than any other. So many people that hate law probably don't even know what dss is, unreasonable to complain about law when this game has real problems. keep spamming that dragon hammer and db3 my guy, if MK really runs in your blood, the rage of your opponent will fuel you
As a Bryan main that just reached Fujin I feel fucking proud. I’ve been avoiding only couple match ups like Kuni and Lidia, for the rest I struggled my way there. I do agree on 3+4 being an amazing move but that’s Tekken today right? Dumb shit a bit in everything. I wish I could hit confirm qcb2 consistently but it’s fucking hard, and I’ve never landed a TJU in my whole life, even tho I’m pretty consistent with Tb4. I do agree on Heihachi ff2 my god I hate that shit so much. If they space it correctly to not whiff it tracks so much that you just can’t do shit about it. I wish it was -18 so that I could punish with f4,1. I also think that DJ’s u4 for what it does, it should just stagger on block. U wanna commit to an invincible move that crushes everything and have two different variations? Let me punish you reliably if I block it. Like Lars uf3.
You can punish hei's ff2 with your ff2 tho and when it comes to online I don't think taunt is needed at all. Online is just CH baiting with f3 and 3+4, nothing more to it
@@Njlitman punish ff2 with ff2 is basically frame perfect, pretty hard to pull off. Once they started ducking all the time when they saw I was trying to punish it, I would basically die if I wouldn’t get the punish. It’s pretty risky.
@@davideguernieri5115 indeed it is tight on the timing , I've had hei's duck after their ff2 was punished on block that's why I mix it with qcb2 since it usually reaches when your spacing is correct. Plus you get more damage off it with the qcb4 after the string
@@gabrielbalano2302 nah mate i think you misunderstood what i meant. Claudios df1 is weird because essentialy his b3 is the move that serves the purpose of a generic df1 of other characters. Quick shortranged mid check
@@VDViktor I know, what I mean is his b3 feels like the generic df1, and his df1 doesn't feel like a df1 at all, so their directional inputs feel so wrong
You are exactly right about King(I am a character loyalist like you. Only King for me, be it rain or fire), Bryan and Kazuya(I didn't check about other characters), especially about Bryan. It was exactly like I was saying all that you said about these characters in this video. Cheers!🖖🏼
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like Nina is alot of work. No coincidence every nina main also has an Anna back up since you get rewarded when you're right. Rather have a 16 f low that's +5 on hit and -15 on block than Nina's 20 f reactable lows that do 5 damage. Nina has too much reliance on CH and strings are just knowledge checks. Duck Nina she dies, back dash Nina's awful range, she dies. Too much work, too much risk, not enough reward... just play Anna.
Well once you master perfect ss1 cancellations Nina is one of the strongest characters in the game but you have to have top tier execution. You can pressure your opponent to death like Hwoarang. However, that takes time and practice.
Nina at fujin is a monster if you play a fundamental character like Jin. "just learn the matchup bro" doesn't really excuse how annoying she is to play against. literally maybe slightly worse hwoarang and he is busted online
I main Heihachi, mighty ruler rank and tbh I sort of agree. I used to underrate Heihachi because of his difficulty requirements but I was a noob still using DB2 and getting destroyed for it heaps and just having a weak pressure game overall due to low electric precision. After playing him way more though, the hellsweep +8 is amazing combined with his mids, but where he really takes centre stage is when electrics are on point, electrics combined with his mids is so ridiculously oppressive that you really gotta be careful finding the opening, this scares people so much into ducking, that hellsweeps are almost always free. The 10f CH rage drive is ridiculous after the jab range buff ill agree, shit steals rounds lmao. FF2 I find to just be a stupid move, the mid evasion, the difficulty to punish with heaps or characters, the grounded bullshit is crazy. Either way though, those electrics gotta be absolutely on point to really make most of this character.
Been a Nina main since Tekken 3 because I couldn't beat her in the arcades. I hate to admit it (I really do) but it's true that Nina mains are loyal to her because we love her and her design. She is definitely high risk low reward, and my fingers become sore after playing her so much. Been many times that I wanted to switch to Anna just cause her rewards are higher. But nah man, she's not my vibe.
I agree with everything you said about Bryan. Piss easy character with absurd everything and the only difficult stuff being his taunt. But he doesn't need taunt, he is already busted. And taunt is straight up broken. Having an unblockable? Which you can setup? And don't forget, his taunt is not just TJU, it's also b4 (1/2 HP at the wall) and strings, that are piss easy to do even for not Bryan players. Feng is cancer to play against. Paul... I shout about Paul must be nerfed since season 2, but all he got is humongouse buffs he never needed.
DVJ's hellsweep wouldnt be such a problem if he didnt have this 27damage wall ender. In the open, his hellsweep is at similar damage as kazuya's. I think that is OK. It's interesting how he could use hellsweeps for repositions through his combos. Without wall, it's not even problematic.
The issue in the open is that it completely breaks the pace of the game, the combo is so slow and annoying. Also you can't look at the hellsweep alone, he has the mids to mix it up
DJ is nowhere to be found in tournaments top 8 and one of the lowest win rate online. Very wellknown by everyone since he is basically T3's Jin . May be super strong but too common IMO.
I've literally never played Paul but I'll say this: I preferred him at his absolute stupidest in season 1. He had a lot more character, more identity. After the nerfs he just feels powercrept to me. Oh and Leo was DEFINITELY more interesting in earlier seasons
After watching full video I am really impressed by you You know everything about Tekken and you gave no baised opinions If you are attending takra cup 2022 in Pakistan ill be there to meet you No homo but seriously love you my man✨✨
I believe Akuma and Geese are top 10 without bars. People may disagree, due to lack of in-depth knowledge but.. with bars they can only be battling for top 1/2 spots. No lower. And we can argue about how amazing DJ and Kaz would be with perfect, inhuman execution but if we apply that to Akuma we can safely assume that he would be invincible.
Wow, first time I’ve heard a top player talk about Ling and say “Learn the matchup, but you can play against her.” Once you learn the matchup, Ling players have to work really hard to get around and get in. She has so much BS for sure, but once you know what she can do, it’s a whole new game for both players. And that infinite is quite situational and isn’t a true infinite.
Big up ya self bro great work on this tier list. Brudda you was 💯 on claudio , I always found the move set not right for me I never understood why. Good work bro👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
whatever i love playing josie katarina chloe no matter how bad they are iam a divine rular player not that good but some day with those characters and i hope they make it to tekken 8
I 100 % agree about Bryan. Even if you didn't have taunt. You can throw out orbital. Df 1s all-day. Ff 4 is easy to do, qcb 3 and 4 are all you need for a lil oki doke. Also 3+4 if you wanna, might as well.. B1 is stupid also ws 3 or b4. This dude literally be controlling the frames..Bryan hard to play ??? Really???
Step or just jab orbital,step b1, and qcb4 do not hit grounded sometimes so it's not very reliable. Bryan is good vs ppl who press lots of buttons,it's a nightmare to play his vs someone with great defence
@@MrEnoch-dy4tg in my opinion orbital should be - 10 on block lol. You can still toss out orbital tho as it is hard to punish. I've learned that pressing will get you smacked up for sure but you can not deny that this character will bully a character to the wall and break their guard. Yes step and jab and all that but at the end of the day you can throw shit out with Bryan and get carried by his move set. Lili can get away with a lot too based on her move set but I complain
@@hauss we now at the point where 95% of the cast it's completely fcked up but in different ways. For example I can't play against Xiaoyu because she's invisible,no move hit her,she can duck under everything it's so ridiculous
I’m sooo glad I’m not the only one who’s having a disconnection problem. Like it be kicking me out of matches like crazy and my disconnection rate is sooo high. THEY NEED TO FIX THIS BUG OR BRING TEKKEN 8 cause wtff 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
I agree with basically every character assessment you made here. Very insightful. Also yeah leo f4 cancels are hard. I been saying it for a few years now and people laughed at me like "oh leo isnt hard you might just suck". Get bent, i say! Lol
heh... I remember spending two nights straight trying to get the f4 cancels correct. I almost screamed when I finally got it consistently. Granted, I'm not the best Leo player in the world, but I noticed that I improved quite a bit once I got that down.
I've been saying this about heihachi long before CEO, I've beat up my fair share of Hei players but Joka is just cracked regardless of which character he picks
Goodness bro this was awesome, ive never agree for so many tekken takes before, from the get go id start to listen to you for so long i didnt even realise once the video was finished.. this was because of your kunimitsu take, like goodness i wholeheartedly agree, that character is so damn overrated amongst this community its ridiculous, some clowns would put her as S tier just because theyre awful against her, its so cringe when people act like they know a character and overrates it just because they cant handle the character smfh
@@jonc8561 alot of people overrate her shes not as strong as most people make of, at best she is A tier in great hands. the fact that you ask that question means you havent come across people who overrates her and thats fine. Better that way.
@@jonc8561 she's just extremely annoying to play against because her existing evades attacks, she's extremely fun to play with though so you should try her
I'm new playing fighting games, picked Feng because he looks very cool (Reminded me the Earthbenders from Avatar) I'm glad he's easy to play and I'm having fun with him :)
The move is crazy good, strong damage, safe + pushback, dumb range, wallspats clean from very far, some evasion, tracks and it's a good mixup tool since in his stance he has good lows and good highs
The more I play Fahk the more I just want Bruce but tall Fahk is not Bruce at all hopefully my main man comes back or Fahk becomes more like Bruce. Straight up if they remove some of fahks now useless moves and changed some of his lesser used combos into Bruce's moves people would not only not bitch about but think he is just okay even through those moves are fucking great and powerful but don't feel cheap
Lili kinda feels like a stealth "learn the matchup" character. You need to really know your options for checking her sidestep cause what might work on the rest of the cast likely won't apply to her.
Unlike most other female chars in tekken, Lili doesn't have too many gimmicks. That's why I find her fun to play against too. It's a shame she doesn't have all the fundamental tekken tools, she has her own set of tools, or she would be higher up the tier list. What's funny is that I'm a mishima+akuma player but I just can't play Lili. I dunno why but her moves seem very awkward to use, whether it's their timing or range.
@@edgelord121 tell me your light blue without saying your light blue...
Play and love love Lili!
But she sucks, I meet her in sub 20 below genbu and she sucks, it's all flip flop snake edge
@@Guitar-Dog That's the most annoying comment I've read in a while
So shes cheap af, right ok
@@zachmac3824 he doesn't even know what he's talking about lmao, that's the hilarious part
I'm a Miguel, Josie and Panda main. As bad as the bears are, they've taught me to improve my defense and punishment oddly enough. Plus patience, you're going to have a lot of it to play Panda.
Are you even active in the RSA FGC scene?
@@UltimateBallaPOM as far as I know. I'm active. I just don't play Tekken as regularly as other South Africans do.
those are the strangest combinations of mains ive ever heard of
@@josephquezada6138 for real lol. I play Law, Steve, Ganryu, and am starting to learn Leo
@@josephquezada6138 Panda was the recent addition, I saw a friend play Kuma and thought he was onto something with the character. It's been just over a year with Panda and I've been having a ton of fun.
Totally agree with your thoughts on Paul and Bryan. I wouldn't say I hate them, but they do make me rage sometimes, not gonna lie.
Master Raven's 1,1,4 is one of the best buffs a character received in Tekken 7.
Agreed. It’s helped her so much and was a very necessary buff.
I understand you on a spiritual level when you say Claudio’s moves don’t feel right, I tried to play him once and I felt like my hands didn’t work.
odd enough thats me with Bryan.
thats because no beginner plays Claudio. He doesn’t have good poking and it’s not easy to utilize his very limited moveset. He has the highest win/loss ratio for a non dlc character simply bc more higher ranks play him
me with asuka, I literally dont know how to play this game when I use her
Im a Steve main and agree he will never be bad because of his design. He's a CH character. In the hands of player with good tekken fundamentals he's deadly. Execution is hard af tho.
picked him as my first char and learned to do shiro combo when I was arond light blue rank, the first time my fingers hurt when im learning a combo. But man, hitting it online was so satisfying
As a asuka main, she is definitely underated but not the best, a pro/caster once said, “she is great for a best of 1 match instead of like first to 3 or first to 5 “
Man, this is the best Alisa description I've heard 'I feel like she doesn't do anything but it's very good' xD
I main Bryan, he's a counter hit monster and his wall pressure/damage is probably the best in the game outside of Hwoarang, but to really make him shine you gotta go for the hard stuff and the hard stuff is f*cking hard lol.
Bryan is famous for his wall game and ch launchers in the game for a reason, he's not matched even by hwo and I'm only talking about the b4 jet upper ff4 basic combo which is 87 damage on it's own and I'm not even talking about 3 3 2 wall splats, he's only matched by 2d which are completely broken (I'm a Jin main)
Whats hard about him besides taunt? WS3 combos give him ridiculous damage and ridiculous wall travel with B3,F,2,1
You can't really sidestep him cause hatchet tracks to the right, 1+2 and DF4 are fully homing. All he lacks in my opinion is a whiff punishing launcher, F4 is too slow.
@@lostboy2637 It's hard to explain, there are some high level streamers who do crazy high execution stuff with him all the time, but referring to my notes:
Converting off a magic 4, not magic 4,3,4(hold), but magic 4, micro dash, jab to conversion requires heavy execution.
ws1 > qcf2,1 > conversion - not super challenging, but you do have to wait for the ws1 animation to be done before you can go for the qcf2,1.
Linking qcb2,4 in juggles requires solid execution, especially depending on the combo route.
fb2 > qcf3 > qcf3 > qcf3,4 > ff2 - the ff2 requires pretty tight execution.
Linking qcf2,1 after counter hit ff4 requires a bit of execution because you have to do a quick micro dash after ff4.
He also has juggle routes with instant fc2,1 and that shit can get silly, I haven't even made it to a point to even go for those and just opt for the easier spins.
Bryan has some crazy execution heavy stuff. Of course you can play him vanilla af and that'll do ok, but at a certain level vanilla/basic Bryan just doesn't work because he has no real mixups, outside of hatchet kick/punt kick and his moves are pretty easy to recognize - qcb2,4 - 4 is high, b2,1 - 1 is high, d3,2 - 2 is high, 1+2,1 - 1 is high, granted he does have an unsafe mid option from 1+2. Again, his counter hit tools, wall damage/pressure/carry, and overall damage is super good, so I'm definitely not saying he's a weak character, but he takes some skill to make him stand out.
@@jamessummers5936 Thank you!
I main Bryan, and all of these are literally the struggles you would have right at the start.
His moves/combos aren't connecting well too, for example: just try using hatchet against a grounded character that is 2° not on the same plane as you (for a move that is entirely a low, this is stupid).
No good panic moves, very high pokes (which can be evaded).
Most of the strong moves can be sidestepped (if you think it doesn't apply to a strong move, try sidestepping it on the other side)
He is strong-ish, but he isn't dumb by any means.
@@HellexTV I don't think Hatchet hits grounded, usually a quick step left and punt kick will connect on a grounded opponent, or at least it's not consistent to hit grounded.
Neutral Orbital is a great panic move of his.
He has some solid pokes, db3 and db4 | df2 | df2,1 | 1+2 | d2 and d3.
He has some tools for sure.
“The Lili mains have stopped complaining!” I felt attacked 😭
outta pocket frr, her buffs were deserved 🙄
@@dymieon9913 Good news, she's got the buff
As a Lili main, I can confirm, we work with what we have. The tech Lili mains know from this character are insane and rarely spotted…. Which is what we like about the character; under the radar. We do want a better df1 though 😂
As a Josie main I unfortunately have to agree with SuperAkuma
Not a lot of people plays Leroy nowadays since people automatically plug when they see him lmao
Leo has some moves that change drastically depending on execution. Qcf2 and uf2,1 are good examples of that, If you can iws3 into Full combo with two f4 cancels those moves cause a LOT of damage, but without that they do a bit of damage and push the opponent away
Iws3 add a lot of damage to otherwise lower dmg easy conversions but they are also hard af. F4 loops barely add dmg and aren't worth attempting most of the time unlike ws3 which is almost always worth attempting if you can do them. Problem is uf2,1 is lowkey a knowledge check because players that know the mu will punch sabaki/ssr duck it and steal their turn back or launch you. I wish that move didn't have that gap and it could just be used as a safe mid launcher if you have the execution. Also the dmg on both conversions are lower compared to avg damage around the cast
Im so close to landing isw3 with leo like right there
@@neopolitan9156 I know the feeling, keep at it. Once you start getting it, it'll click
She's fine
Some say Leo is a Mokujin :)
I genuinely hope Lidia returns for Tekken 8! She's super fun and enjoyable to learn her strengths and weaknesses. She makes the Leroy and Feng MU much more exciting to play.
I'm with you 100%
"Lei....Learn the matchup." next character lol
yes finally anna and kazuya is pretty much both pure 50/50 char , i swear if you play kaz or anna you should try the one of the other and u would probably find how fun they're
if you want both try bob its pretty much anna + kazuya lovechild
Not a fan of bob’s gameplay or design at all. However Kazuya and Anna are the BEST characters in the game imo.
They really are fun. Electrics and slaps all day!
Completely agree with the comment above.
Kaz and Anna feel dope to play, even without going for the mid-low 50/50s, sometimes just mixing timings is great 👌🏾
Bob feels like a potato, his moves look dumb and his mixup feels more braindead. Definitely not a "love child" of the aforementioned two, more like a discarded condom.
Giving love to the Gigas. Hopefully he shows up in the next game as DLC low key #GigasGang
One of my favourite new character designs even if the gameplay isn't what I wanted from him
@@SuperAkouma I love his designs. Maybe not the best competitive wise but damn, he's so savage I love it
He's my main and ngl there's no other character that feels like him just wish he had little bit more of a throw game oh well
@@SuperAkouma honestly fahks charge gimmick is what Gigas should of had from the start. Not sure why they would give it to Fahk only.
Gigas DLC in Tekken 8 with a cool rework and Marduk in the base roster since he's already so much fun.
Then of course all the other Big chars like Bob, Gany, Fahk, Jack-8 and Kuma in the base roster. It would be lit !
Mad respect for saying that Bryan is easy, delusional Bryan mains gonna cry in the corner now
Bryan is easy to play, but easy to counter. Akouma being dishonest on some characters.
Not really that easy but still on the easier end, but not incredibly hardcore like how some people oversell it
Besides Taunt setups and requiring pristine KBD cancels, he's alright
Glad to know other people think Lars is annoying
He couldn't have said it better, every string being a launcher is super annoying.
Lars has no strings
@@Terszel he has they're just baddddddd
@@lostboy2637 Just do not press buttons against Lars
Most Lars players online are excessively committal anyways
Negan has best male movement in a game. He actually has "female" sidestep.
No fucking way does he actually?
@@neopolitan9156 Do a kazumi low poke so she is in +4 and follow with 2 jabs. Males (for example Miguel) cant sidestep these jabs, Negan can)
@@artembochkarev6285 can leo step it? Since leo has a smaller hitbox?
@@neopolitan9156 Nope)
@@artembochkarev6285 thats crazy
Noctis before was just a big sword and long spear. 50/50
Both got nerfed (fixed) and buffed on his other tools instead.
Now he plays Tekken while also being whiff punishment god.
+10000 respect for acknowledging Bryan being a piss easy character
My brother in Christ he's playing Akuma on a hitbox
@@bigrubberfist2945 He's not wrong tho
@@bigrubberfist2945 Him playing Akuma doesn't change the fact that Bryan is easy to play
I agree with him there, but then he said Devil Jin is one of the hardest in the game which is dumb.
Not any less difficult than half of the cast, so 🤷♂️
But doing taunt setups in a match is difficult, and isn't as a brain-dead move like some of the SS tier characters have.
I'm a Lili, Eddy, and Xiaoyu main. Lili's buffs are really good. The only buff I don't agree with was when they made her f4 a counter hit launcher. I think it's too strong personally. I'm also kind of iffy about her having ff3 as a ling range safe launcher, especially being at -3 when we cancel it.
Xiaoyu is just doing xiaoyu things tbh. They keep buffing her, I don't really mind. I'm surprised you didn't mention her db2.
Eddy is bad ONLY because he doesn't have a usable sidstep. Eddy actually has good range, frames, pokes, damage, his moves have great hitboxes (except his df1 :/ ). When they gave him his new wall combo, it was a game changer. It flips over so he can do a safe ss4 on oki no matter hif you techroll or not and block it. Also when they made his RLX 4 a counterhit launcher, which was much needed.
I was going pretty fast but I really should have mentioned ling db2 lol as for Eddy I think he needs more than that still. And for me it's not Lili f4 but her ff3 that's the overkill
@@SuperAkouma What more do you think eddy would need? Also, I forgot to mention that HSP (Handstand Position) is pretty bad. I'd say it's one of the worst stances in the game
Kinda disagree on her f4 being too strong, I think with bow easy it is to step and how Lili needs CH tools, it was a decent addition. Her ff3 I think is fine now, it's a great whiff punisher now and Lili doesn't do ridiculous damage like alot of the other cast does so it's fair to me, plus the cancel into dew glide leaves her open anyway to a hit unless the opponent second guesses themselves and chooses to block out of fear they'll finish the string
@@Maso_Prince I highkey feel as if you're not as knowledgeable about this subject seeing as you said the cancel off of ff3 dewglide leaves her open. I already mentioned that it was -3 meaning it doesn't leave her open, also she's evasive on block when she goes into dewglide and when she cancels it.
She still doesn't need f4 counter hit. What they could bring back is her ub1 counter hit in substitute for keeping people in check. F4 also has some tracking at tip and mid range just like her cartwheel.
@@AfroKing. Actually I am, I'm a lili main and know the ins and outs about her. The cancel may be -3 but she's still taking a risk going into dew glide since the foe can still attempt a jab, especially if she whiffs the ff3 and tries to cancel. Lili canceling into DG isn't gonna safe her necessarily since she can also cancel from other moves like u3 and b1 etc but that's still a risk.
I think it's fine as a launcher since ff3 itself was a bit useless before when you have her df3+4. As a more ranged CH fighter I think the new ff3 makes her a stronger whiff punisher
Someone in chat said Armour King is boring lmao
I dropped Leo because of the F+4 cancels. It's really cool seeing someone implement it in a tournament.
What this thumbnail looks like to me: "Jin is trash, just play Alisa"
Master Raven is a very underrated and unique character indeed, but to do very good with her you need to play very risky, because many of her moves end in her back turn where she's very vulnerable, you need to be very versatile and unpredictable with her, I mainly use her because she resemble Naruto characters in her fighting style and because of her unorthodox approach, for me she's B+ and maximum A in the right hands of use in the Tier List, because she's the type of High Risk-High Reward character. ☯️
100% agree with you, shes a high risk high reward, I'm a raven main myself. I learned a lot fighting high levels as I constantly have to adjust my mixups etc. I also mained her cuz she resembles Ninjas & Naruto 😂 Very underrated character indeed
GoAttack beat Knee and JDCR in bracket at a tournament a couple weeks ago. Won the whole thing. Maven is not a character I would underestimate.
Im trying to learn maven but I don't get her gameplan. Can't launch, can't punish, can't rush down. Only bait and whiff punishment works
@@jabransaeed6155 Go and watch some videoclips at my channel If you want, I love playing with her... ^^
King main here.
I'm still finding some stupid, sometimes broken(maybe) oki mix ups with king, almost after every move that knocks down near the dude, if you guessed wrong, you dead yo
Kazuya top their from the drip alone
Fair
I've always been a feng main and i want him nerfed because I miss being kinda lowkey lol. He doesn't need high combo dmg. I been playing leo and i believe she's extremely underrated
Chloe is so much cheese you could call it a pizza.
ok so this is the first time ive heard super akouma speak. i knew he was french because of watching tournees, but i never realized how FLUENT he is. like i actually needed to double take to make sure i was hearing things correctly lol
Main steve since tekken 4, never ever felt disappointed fighting with him
As a Josie main, hearing that she does no damage is a wild take considering how good her wall carry is and her delayed wall ender flip over which often leads to half a life bar 9/10 and oki with a wall splat command throw and good pressure mids. Highly underrated character that has a decent amount of tech/set ups, good counter hitting moves, far from low damage(as someone who has a S+ in combo damage) and not to mention a really good sway that she can cancel into instant crouch dash 2s to launch highs or crumple launch with sway 1 not to mention her parry which isn't as strong as the others cause it can only be used on right hand attacks does like 50 or 60 damage for free.
As far as I agree with you, being a Josie secondary, I'd say her damage falls apart when she is not on a wall stage and smart players will use it at their advantages
@@crack4184 realistically if you're doing the optimal stuff there is literally no damage issue even on infinite stages.
@@ghostdogg12 Ehhhhh Her combos are not awesome on wall-less stages
@@crack4184 only thing that even changes is that you can spike instead of carry and go for cd mix
@@ghostdogg12 Ooooh I realize I don't think about using that
what's fun about tekken for me is that I was always a mortal kombat player. so, I'm a ninjakilla fanboy and I'm always amazed by his inhumane cancel combos in mkx, so I decided to play a character with a similar style. picked up law, love playing him, but I find it funny how I picked him because he looked very technical and execution heavy but ended up finding that he is universally hated for being super cheap and braindead 😆
amazing how you can have multiple different players using the same character and every one of them may have a completely different style
fuck the haters law is based. no matter who you pick, some thin skinned scrub online hates that character more than any other. So many people that hate law probably don't even know what dss is, unreasonable to complain about law when this game has real problems. keep spamming that dragon hammer and db3 my guy, if MK really runs in your blood, the rage of your opponent will fuel you
Oh my, why did you describe Ganryu so well. I love that character but now I have more fun even with Shaheen.
Always fun to hear fighting game experts talk shop.
Sir. I know Eddy is bad… but nothing makes me happier than when I surprise players and get hard earned wins with him. Capo Gang all day
As long as you're having fun you're winning bro 😁
As a Bryan main that just reached Fujin I feel fucking proud. I’ve been avoiding only couple match ups like Kuni and Lidia, for the rest I struggled my way there. I do agree on 3+4 being an amazing move but that’s Tekken today right? Dumb shit a bit in everything. I wish I could hit confirm qcb2 consistently but it’s fucking hard, and I’ve never landed a TJU in my whole life, even tho I’m pretty consistent with Tb4. I do agree on Heihachi ff2 my god I hate that shit so much. If they space it correctly to not whiff it tracks so much that you just can’t do shit about it. I wish it was -18 so that I could punish with f4,1. I also think that DJ’s u4 for what it does, it should just stagger on block. U wanna commit to an invincible move that crushes everything and have two different variations? Let me punish you reliably if I block it. Like Lars uf3.
You can punish hei's ff2 with your ff2 tho and when it comes to online I don't think taunt is needed at all. Online is just CH baiting with f3 and 3+4, nothing more to it
@@Njlitman punish ff2 with ff2 is basically frame perfect, pretty hard to pull off. Once they started ducking all the time when they saw I was trying to punish it, I would basically die if I wouldn’t get the punish. It’s pretty risky.
@@davideguernieri5115 indeed it is tight on the timing , I've had hei's duck after their ff2 was punished on block that's why I mix it with qcb2 since it usually reaches when your spacing is correct. Plus you get more damage off it with the qcb4 after the string
@@Njlitman thats an idea, pretty sure also f4,1 reaches!
@@davideguernieri5115 It sure is! I would just pick qcb2 over f4, as it is stepable ^^
I main Eliza, Lucky Chloe and Lili and I love your takes, good job
Really enjoyed this video specially your opinion on bryan 😂😂😂
Glad you liked it 😁
Lee players we are in a dire time but rise
As a somewhat claudio main, you explained all my problems with him perfectly. His df1 is very weird, and his df3 and b3 feel reversed
Claudios df1 is b3
@@VDViktor oh yes that's actually what I meant lol, dk why I typed df3
@@gabrielbalano2302 nah mate i think you misunderstood what i meant. Claudios df1 is weird because essentialy his b3 is the move that serves the purpose of a generic df1 of other characters. Quick shortranged mid check
@@VDViktor I know, what I mean is his b3 feels like the generic df1, and his df1 doesn't feel like a df1 at all, so their directional inputs feel so wrong
You are exactly right about King(I am a character loyalist like you. Only King for me, be it rain or fire), Bryan and Kazuya(I didn't check about other characters), especially about Bryan. It was exactly like I was saying all that you said about these characters in this video.
Cheers!🖖🏼
Im a new player and i really like playing lucky chloe since shes such a fun character and i like being annoying
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like Nina is alot of work. No coincidence every nina main also has an Anna back up since you get rewarded when you're right. Rather have a 16 f low that's +5 on hit and -15 on block than Nina's 20 f reactable lows that do 5 damage. Nina has too much reliance on CH and strings are just knowledge checks. Duck Nina she dies, back dash Nina's awful range, she dies. Too much work, too much risk, not enough reward... just play Anna.
I still suck hard cause nina blows me up too much
Yep. Anna for the win. She’s also more fun.
Well once you master perfect ss1 cancellations Nina is one of the strongest characters in the game but you have to have top tier execution. You can pressure your opponent to death like Hwoarang. However, that takes time and practice.
Nina at fujin is a monster if you play a fundamental character like Jin. "just learn the matchup bro" doesn't really excuse how annoying she is to play against. literally maybe slightly worse hwoarang and he is busted online
I main Heihachi, mighty ruler rank and tbh I sort of agree. I used to underrate Heihachi because of his difficulty requirements but I was a noob still using DB2 and getting destroyed for it heaps and just having a weak pressure game overall due to low electric precision. After playing him way more though, the hellsweep +8 is amazing combined with his mids, but where he really takes centre stage is when electrics are on point, electrics combined with his mids is so ridiculously oppressive that you really gotta be careful finding the opening, this scares people so much into ducking, that hellsweeps are almost always free. The 10f CH rage drive is ridiculous after the jab range buff ill agree, shit steals rounds lmao. FF2 I find to just be a stupid move, the mid evasion, the difficulty to punish with heaps or characters, the grounded bullshit is crazy. Either way though, those electrics gotta be absolutely on point to really make most of this character.
Heihachi Is cool
Lower level though you only need df1 and ff1 lol
Been a Nina main since Tekken 3 because I couldn't beat her in the arcades. I hate to admit it (I really do) but it's true that Nina mains are loyal to her because we love her and her design. She is definitely high risk low reward, and my fingers become sore after playing her so much. Been many times that I wanted to switch to Anna just cause her rewards are higher. But nah man, she's not my vibe.
I agree with everything you said about Bryan. Piss easy character with absurd everything and the only difficult stuff being his taunt. But he doesn't need taunt, he is already busted. And taunt is straight up broken. Having an unblockable? Which you can setup? And don't forget, his taunt is not just TJU, it's also b4 (1/2 HP at the wall) and strings, that are piss easy to do even for not Bryan players.
Feng is cancer to play against.
Paul... I shout about Paul must be nerfed since season 2, but all he got is humongouse buffs he never needed.
DVJ's hellsweep wouldnt be such a problem if he didnt have this 27damage wall ender. In the open, his hellsweep is at similar damage as kazuya's. I think that is OK. It's interesting how he could use hellsweeps for repositions through his combos. Without wall, it's not even problematic.
The issue in the open is that it completely breaks the pace of the game, the combo is so slow and annoying. Also you can't look at the hellsweep alone, he has the mids to mix it up
DJ is nowhere to be found in tournaments top 8 and one of the lowest win rate online. Very wellknown by everyone since he is basically T3's Jin . May be super strong but too common IMO.
because hes overrated just like Jin was
Super now I love you with how talked about Asuka
I've literally never played Paul but I'll say this: I preferred him at his absolute stupidest in season 1. He had a lot more character, more identity. After the nerfs he just feels powercrept to me.
Oh and Leo was DEFINITELY more interesting in earlier seasons
Bryan Fury main all day 24/7! # +3 frame snake edge on block!
God I feel Lee "not working" so hard. I feel like you could release a patch that is exclusively bug fixes and it would buff Lee into Top 10.
Mishima mains downplaying heihachi landing an omen or ff2 and doing 80% of your hp. Then hitting you with a poke and taking a round
Thank you
After watching full video
I am really impressed by you
You know everything about Tekken and you gave no baised opinions
If you are attending takra cup 2022 in Pakistan ill be there to meet you
No homo but seriously love you my man✨✨
I don't think I can make it this year but I definitely want to go back to Pakistan as soon as I can. Thanks for the support bro 😁
@@SuperAkouma np bro
Whenever you will be there ill surely meet you
Geep going keep working hard✨✨
Choksae playing Kazuya tho 💪
8:48 everyone dropped her because she is not broken anymore LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
the one thing i have to say about this. yoshi is nothing but a troll
29:27 "Devil Jin is a character"
I feel enlightened.
He really is 💯
Devil Jin truly is one of the characters of all time
I believe Akuma and Geese are top 10 without bars. People may disagree, due to lack of in-depth knowledge but.. with bars they can only be battling for top 1/2 spots. No lower. And we can argue about how amazing DJ and Kaz would be with perfect, inhuman execution but if we apply that to Akuma we can safely assume that he would be invincible.
Akuma is so good that calling him TOP 3 is considered downplaying, imagine that.
me, just discovering a few days ago that im a Nina main:
"if i'm not pressing buttons, am i really playing the game?"
BoA is super clutch with Kaz bro. That’s your research right there.
Wow, first time I’ve heard a top player talk about Ling and say “Learn the matchup, but you can play against her.” Once you learn the matchup, Ling players have to work really hard to get around and get in. She has so much BS for sure, but once you know what she can do, it’s a whole new game for both players. And that infinite is quite situational and isn’t a true infinite.
Bryan Fury is the most realistic and furious character in the game
Finally someone who have sense of what he is talking about ✨🙌
Big up ya self bro great work on this tier list. Brudda you was 💯 on claudio , I always found the move set not right for me I never understood why.
Good work bro👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
whatever i love playing josie katarina chloe no matter how bad they are iam a divine rular player not that good but some day with those characters and i hope they make it to tekken 8
Great video! A question though, now that Tekken 8 is around the corner, and Akuma is not in the game.
Who are you going to play as your main?
Thank you 😁 I invite you to check my last video for the answer
My man talks a big game for someone running a 9th kyu Akuma
Super akouma: Hwoarang is strong he does more damage than akuma. also me be like
Kicking machine 🤝 super akouma
I HATE BRYAN TOO, HE'S EASY AF AND DOWNPLAYED SO MUCH WHILE HE ACTUALLY IS SUPER STRONG, SUPER EASY AND SUPER ANNOYING
Great vid! Useful info and funny commentary
Learn the Lei matchup they said
you should've called this video "Rapid fire tier list"
Hey, technically I didn't rank them 😌
@@SuperAkouma yeah true lol
Everyone has tried to erase it, but leo is a female, her full name is eleonora Kliesen.
Love how people shit on 2Ds but completely ignore Alisa's bullshit.
Super Akouma: "People say jumping is so broken, yeah, YOU Try it!"
Also Super Akouma: "You just get flashed vs Yoshimitsu" x)
Some matchups like Bob you just get flashed lol I know how hit and miss it is don't worry
I 100 % agree about Bryan. Even if you didn't have taunt. You can throw out orbital. Df 1s all-day. Ff 4 is easy to do, qcb 3 and 4 are all you need for a lil oki doke. Also 3+4 if you wanna, might as well.. B1 is stupid also ws 3 or b4. This dude literally be controlling the frames..Bryan hard to play ??? Really???
Step or just jab orbital,step b1, and qcb4 do not hit grounded sometimes so it's not very reliable. Bryan is good vs ppl who press lots of buttons,it's a nightmare to play his vs someone with great defence
@@MrEnoch-dy4tg in my opinion orbital should be - 10 on block lol. You can still toss out orbital tho as it is hard to punish. I've learned that pressing will get you smacked up for sure but you can not deny that this character will bully a character to the wall and break their guard. Yes step and jab and all that but at the end of the day you can throw shit out with Bryan and get carried by his move set. Lili can get away with a lot too based on her move set but I complain
@@hauss we now at the point where 95% of the cast it's completely fcked up but in different ways. For example I can't play against Xiaoyu because she's invisible,no move hit her,she can duck under everything it's so ridiculous
@@MrEnoch-dy4tg yes I agree. Her AOP is pretty crazy. She slips through the cracks and her side step is a little underrated in my opinion.
@@hauss Guard breaks?
Try playing against Fahk, you will know what legitimate threatening (and executionless) guardbreaks are
As a casual Tekken viewer what I gathered from this video was that 3/4 of the cast is broken and dumb.
That is entirely accurate and part of the fun 😁
I don't know why a lot of best players hate Bryan, frame Whisper explain this but not confirm 100% the idea
I’m sooo glad I’m not the only one who’s having a disconnection problem. Like it be kicking me out of matches like crazy and my disconnection rate is sooo high. THEY NEED TO FIX THIS BUG OR BRING TEKKEN 8 cause wtff 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
I agree with basically every character assessment you made here. Very insightful. Also yeah leo f4 cancels are hard. I been saying it for a few years now and people laughed at me like "oh leo isnt hard you might just suck". Get bent, i say! Lol
heh... I remember spending two nights straight trying to get the f4 cancels correct. I almost screamed when I finally got it consistently. Granted, I'm not the best Leo player in the world, but I noticed that I improved quite a bit once I got that down.
Hope someday we see a fully optimized real player of kazuya
Wish im still alive when that happens
Didn't know you had such good English
Bryan dropping a combo is nearly unheard of... he can confirm a full combo at max distance 99% of the time. Freakin hate Bryan players.😡😡😡
That's Lars not Bryan you are talking about
Very nice vid. Great explanation.
"I like fiction"
Oh yeah? Name every character.
Lmao akuma player complaining about heihachi hahahaha strangly after getting defeated by an heihachi that crack me up
I've been saying this about heihachi long before CEO, I've beat up my fair share of Hei players but Joka is just cracked regardless of which character he picks
Goodness bro this was awesome, ive never agree for so many tekken takes before, from the get go id start to listen to you for so long i didnt even realise once the video was finished.. this was because of your kunimitsu take, like goodness i wholeheartedly agree, that character is so damn overrated amongst this community its ridiculous, some clowns would put her as S tier just because theyre awful against her, its so cringe when people act like they know a character and overrates it just because they cant handle the character smfh
how is she overrated?
@@jonc8561 alot of people overrate her shes not as strong as most people make of, at best she is A tier in great hands. the fact that you ask that question means you havent come across people who overrates her and thats fine. Better that way.
@@reishakyu3553 I don't even play tekken7. I just think Kuni looks cool and I'd play her if I did play
@@jonc8561 she's just extremely annoying to play against because her existing evades attacks, she's extremely fun to play with though so you should try her
@@motrilfromthe6281 horrendously annoying*
I'm new playing fighting games, picked Feng because he looks very cool (Reminded me the Earthbenders from Avatar) I'm glad he's easy to play and I'm having fun with him :)
36:39 "He is too Good"
No shit, that Knee guy won the Evo tournament with him, I might have good eye to pick characters LUL.
I know this video was a year ago. But if you could, could you explain Miguel? You said: “Why Savage 2?” I don’t get it maybe because I don’t main him.
The move is crazy good, strong damage, safe + pushback, dumb range, wallspats clean from very far, some evasion, tracks and it's a good mixup tool since in his stance he has good lows and good highs
“Just don’t get combo’d I guess”😭😭😭
im happy im not the only one with a issue on leo's design lol
The more I play Fahk the more I just want Bruce but tall Fahk is not Bruce at all hopefully my main man comes back or Fahk becomes more like Bruce.
Straight up if they remove some of fahks now useless moves and changed some of his lesser used combos into Bruce's moves people would not only not bitch about but think he is just okay even through those moves are fucking great and powerful but don't feel cheap
I would love to see tmm’s reaction to this
I wonder if eddy's ever gonna get a sidestep..