Haven't finished yet but so far I have enjoyed it! Although I do not exactly understand analytic philosophy I like to listen and think as a pass time. Thank you again.
I’ve just ordered ‘Logique, philosophie et probabilités’, the French language collection of Ramsey’s key papers (Vrin). English editions are extortionate on the internet.
What I learned from this interview is that there are people who are smart and people who are SMART. Ramsey was way over on the SMART part of the spectrum.
Interesting. This relates in some sense I think to prejudices physicists and geometers have, or rather blind spots, to adding a scalar to a vector, or a vector to a bivector, etc., which is Clifford algebra. Typical geeks tend to be trained to think you cannot add unlike dimensioned quantities together. But they've failed to comprehend or learn multivector algebra, which is extremely powerful. They would not know for instance that there is a single multivector expression for all Maxwell's equations. If they know n-forms they'll know Maxwell's equations can be written as two relations, but most do not know about the Clifford algebra form, which is a single equation, □F = J.
I.A. Richards shared an account of he and C.K. Ogden being visited one day by Frank (before Frank translated Wittgenstein's 'Tractatus') who asked them about learning German. Ogden loaned him a German grammar, an Anglo-German dictionary and a book by Marx. Frank returned within 10 days, with Richards commenting that Frank had learned German well enough to read it but not speak it. The question is, is this untrue?
Yes, that is the story I had heard, and has been repeated a few times, including on the BBC. But Prof. Potter says he thinks it is untrue (at least it is untrue Ramsey knew no German at that time), as he has uncovered evidence Ramsey won a German language prize in school.
@@AbsolutePhilosophyIt’s a shame though. I’ve known people diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome who can become remarkably competent in some second language very quickly (a matter of weeks). Not saying that FP had Asperger’s, just that it’s independently plausible that second languages can be learned very quickly.
I read "Prank Ramsy" and thought this would be some stupid tiktok kind of video... Thank you for this. Now I know about Frank Ramsey. Then I stumbled on "another" problem. (If the first was a "problem", for anybody except me) and that is when you show the book outside the frame showing the tip of the book. This too is not a real problem in the age of google and gpt.
@@AbsolutePhilosophy I am not sure about "@walter10065", but you have to have some self-awareness as a paid philosopher on the public purse. Humans have invented superstring theory (bananas, but still awesome) and gone to the Moon etc., without having to worry about these foundational logic issues. Even if we were all great logicians and studied Frege or whoever assiduously, we'd still be cocking things up landing Mars rovers too hard because of bad units conversions in the software, or starting violence over failure to empathize with each other, none of which clear logical thinking really helps if error rates and miscommunications cannot be sent to zero. At some point in an academic career you have to ask yourself is any of my "research" really useful in the grand scheme of things? If "...well potentially... (for pure aesthetic pleasure others may find delight within)," is your answer, then perhaps all well and good. But if you honestly think not then it might be wise and helpful to get a job cleaning up garbage on the public streets, as a more fulfilling life. Having started all that, I do admire Ramsey. But his economics was nerdy and stupid, completely ignorant of politics and monetary systems, so just early neoclassical fantasy crap. (imho)
this would be so much better without that constant smile... its as if you are constantly trying to please or hide smth or god knows.. real thoughts need a straight face
Haven't finished yet but so far I have enjoyed it! Although I do not exactly understand analytic philosophy I like to listen and think as a pass time. Thank you again.
I’ve just ordered ‘Logique, philosophie et probabilités’, the French language collection of Ramsey’s key papers (Vrin). English editions are extortionate on the internet.
What I learned from this interview is that there are people who are smart and people who are SMART. Ramsey was way over on the SMART part of the spectrum.
Interesting. This relates in some sense I think to prejudices physicists and geometers have, or rather blind spots, to adding a scalar to a vector, or a vector to a bivector, etc., which is Clifford algebra. Typical geeks tend to be trained to think you cannot add unlike dimensioned quantities together. But they've failed to comprehend or learn multivector algebra, which is extremely powerful. They would not know for instance that there is a single multivector expression for all Maxwell's equations. If they know n-forms they'll know Maxwell's equations can be written as two relations, but most do not know about the Clifford algebra form, which is a single equation, □F = J.
I.A. Richards shared an account of he and C.K. Ogden being visited one day by Frank (before Frank translated Wittgenstein's 'Tractatus') who asked them about learning German. Ogden loaned him a German grammar, an Anglo-German dictionary and a book by Marx. Frank returned within 10 days, with Richards commenting that Frank had learned German well enough to read it but not speak it. The question is, is this untrue?
Yes, that is the story I had heard, and has been repeated a few times, including on the BBC. But Prof. Potter says he thinks it is untrue (at least it is untrue Ramsey knew no German at that time), as he has uncovered evidence Ramsey won a German language prize in school.
@@AbsolutePhilosophyIt’s a shame though. I’ve known people diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome who can become remarkably competent in some second language very quickly (a matter of weeks). Not saying that FP had Asperger’s, just that it’s independently plausible that second languages can be learned very quickly.
I read "Prank Ramsy" and thought this would be some stupid tiktok kind of video...
Thank you for this. Now I know about Frank Ramsey.
Then I stumbled on "another" problem. (If the first was a "problem", for anybody except me) and that is when you show the book outside the frame showing the tip of the book.
This too is not a real problem in the age of google and gpt.
I don't do stupid TikTok videos :-D. But thanks for mentioning the book, I'll remember that in future!
If it is any consolation, Frank appeared far older than his biological age. ;)
Yes that is a consolation! 😊
Thanks for this now I think that “logic” is bollocks
Why?
@@AbsolutePhilosophy I am not sure about "@walter10065", but you have to have some self-awareness as a paid philosopher on the public purse. Humans have invented superstring theory (bananas, but still awesome) and gone to the Moon etc., without having to worry about these foundational logic issues. Even if we were all great logicians and studied Frege or whoever assiduously, we'd still be cocking things up landing Mars rovers too hard because of bad units conversions in the software, or starting violence over failure to empathize with each other, none of which clear logical thinking really helps if error rates and miscommunications cannot be sent to zero.
At some point in an academic career you have to ask yourself is any of my "research" really useful in the grand scheme of things? If "...well potentially... (for pure aesthetic pleasure others may find delight within)," is your answer, then perhaps all well and good. But if you honestly think not then it might be wise and helpful to get a job cleaning up garbage on the public streets, as a more fulfilling life.
Having started all that, I do admire Ramsey. But his economics was nerdy and stupid, completely ignorant of politics and monetary systems, so just early neoclassical fantasy crap. (imho)
this would be so much better without that constant smile... its as if you are constantly trying to please or hide smth or god knows.. real thoughts need a straight face
What a bizarre comment. Go outside and touch some grass maybe…