So in researching the ILBE APB03 Assault Pack family, I find there are 3-models; - APB03 Corpsman Assault Pack (2380 cu) - APB03 Recon Assault Pack (2380 cu) - APB03 Assault Pack (1648 cu) The one reviewed here was the ILBE APB03 Assault Pack (1648 cu). The ‘larger’ APB03 ‘Corpsman’ (MEDIC) Assault Pack and its twin the ‘Recon’ Assault Pack are the same packs except that the ‘Corpsman’ is equipped with three insert-compartments for medical supplies. Shared because this clarified a few thing for me. Thx for the review - Cheers
Thank you for another fine review, Luke. I came across this video only recently. Direct comparisons like this make a lot of sense, so keep up the good work! I have had the ILBE assault pack for a few years now and have found it to be very useful for certain "missions" in the field. Thanks to your review I got the FILBE version and really enjoy it so far. I agree with your assessment about comfort, breathability on my back, and other comments and feel that it is superior to the ILBE in many ways. However, I will keep using the ILBE, too, because it's still a tough, great little pack.
Having both as well I would agree with you Luke. I've been able to use the FILBE pack with much more modularity than the ILBE. I would love you to try both Corpsman versions next or FILBE assault pack vs ILBE Recon/Corpsman assault pack
I really like your new direction here. It is a great source of information to have someone with your experience and knowledge testing, and reviewing these items when they are put up against one another. With you Luke, I know I can trust the outcomes. thanks
Luke, Your "VS." of the main packs for both of these series of packs is what helped me go with the ILBE main pack despite your suggestion that I might be happier with the Savotta L Jakkari. Ultimately it came down to the pass through sleeves on either side and that I got a brand new ILBE off of EBAY at a "decent" price! THank you as always for all of your hard work that helps us all make tough decisions much more easily! Your friend, Bill Doyle in Upr Grnwd Lk, NJ
Of course the assault pack is better for hikes, that's why we use it lol. When I was in I had only seen that woodland ILBE pack but it was never a CIF issued pack and it stands to reason. When you're actually using it for its intended purpose, the assault pack will kick the shit out of the ILBE all day long due to build quality because its made for long rucks. To put it in perspective... we could fully load it down to 40-50lbs of gear and ruck 15 miles and it would still be comfortable to wear. Always loved that pack and I'll have to get another one for my hiking ventures.
Hey if your going to do a pack comparison do the filbe vs the molle II. Cause they are so close to the same but the frames and harnesses are slightly different. Would like to see which of those 2 you would say wins.
Good test! But I think the ilbe back was at a disadvantage because it is a smaller pack and therefore isn't necessarily able to support he same loads as the filbe. So if you where to take that into consideration and put less weight in the ilbe pack the results would be different.
There's nothing the ILBE assault pack does better than the FILBE, though, except for the sick MARPAT + coyote camo scheme. More expensive, less capacity, less flexibility, etc. The point is that you CAN load up the FILBE with 30+ lbs. of gear if you really wanted to, but the ILBE doesn't have that option. I choose my pack based off of how much I need to carry, personally, not the other way around.
For an edc bike (cruiser class hd) bag/pack the ILBE is a hands down better pack for its loadout design. At 1500 cubic inches its 8 inches deep main pocket is more easily packed and unpacked for common items on a bike, ie riding jacket etc as required in cerain areas. It took a long time of trying different loadouts to get a good feel and balance with more wider but certainly more shallow (specs 6"?) And definitely more rigid feel of the FILBE assualt pack. I admit both are very tough and dont fail under load, but having used both for extended periods of time in various locales it is a matter of loadout not just walking under basically normal conditions. I have always enjoyed the versus on TOGR but this test is a bit narrow in scope and info on things. The FILBE is a superb pack but loadout is a challenge being wide and shallow imo. I contract for many US military branches and in fairness it truly comes down to your loadout configuration needs. Keep up the great work but can you do a vs with actual loadouts of same items of actual use and compare? Resu.ts may be quite different. Stay safe out there brothers.
same - as he noted, chest strap design (which carried it up higher to the shoulders) was better and back-pad conformity. I have an ILBE w/sustainment pouches and load vest, this way you have load distribution (SAR volunteer). Didn't know of the FILBE (mine is the Arc'teryx, was the one tested this OEM? Although don't think result of video would change.) BTW - 35lb is start of mid-weight loads and about the limit of mid-light foot gear. Many don't consider the correlation of pack-load to proper foot gear.
For kicks, I hiked the FILBE assault pack w/ ~35lbs. a little over 10 miles a couple years ago, including a ~3500 ft. change in elevation. That was a mistake. A big one. That sucked. Bad. I've never done a similar trek with the ILBE version, but I'll never do something like that again without a true frame in any event (with that much weight at least). I did the same hike last year with the big brother (the FILBE main ruck) and about 55 lbs., and that made a huge difference. That thing rides so well, but it is heavy - but it's also made for that kind of rucking, so it's built for max punishment. As I said, given the choice I wouldn't run the assault pack (any kind) with that much weight for any real distance, but it is a GREAT truck pack/short distance/time get 'er done pack. The modular design is awesome and it is pretty comfortable for what it is and for more reasonable applications. I still love it, I just don't use for unintended purposes.
As always, the answer is: "It depends." The FILBE is is ideal for kicking in doors and rounding up terrorists. It's not a good camping pack. It's a tactical pack. I own it. It's GREAT and is way better than most of the tacticool packs in it's class. It'd make a great truck pack for sure. I LITERALLY EDC the ILBE assault pack every single day. I've been using it for going on 5 years now. What can I say, it holds up to tons of abuse and use. It's not a camping pack either. It's another patrol pack. So it does it's job well and for the $20 that I paid for it, Going back to the it depends part, the FILBE is a different beast than the ILBE. It's light years away in features and design. Having used both, I'd take the FILBE for use that I had to live out of the pack for days. The ILBE is overkill for something to use everyday in real life (translated: EXCELLENT).
I bought a surplus ilbe pack when I was in college but when I enlisted in the Corps we were issued the filbe pack. I like them both but definitely love my filbe pack.
I had the old one issued in Afg, did a couple of patrols with it. The straps are too narrow, though the zippers are tough! I was getting out of the Marine Corps as the new one was getting issued out. It looks better for sure. Its a couple hundred cubic inches too big though, but thats just an opinion. Like 200 - 300 Cubic inches less would be great and still take it out for 3 days comfortably. In the old one you could fit a sleeping system, layers, water, food and very little else... somewhere between the 2 sizes of 1500 ci and 2300 ci would be perfect.
FILBE should be compared to the ILBE corpsman for a fair review imo. Thanks Luke for the 'vs'. I'm gonna look for a nice condition FILBE assault pack on Ebay. :).
Busse MOABOLO vs Keffeler Sasquatch ----- Exo mountain 3500 vs kifaru 22mag ----- Hilleberg anything vs MSR anything (3 seasons....4 is a bit too expedition class....maybe)
The ILBE is better than the FILBE, but the FILBE Assault pack is better than the ILBE Assault pack. Can the FILBE small pack be attached to the ILBE large pack with a minimum of fuss? Adam
I totally agree with ya Luke. I own both packs. Actually both complete sets with the hydration and main packs. I have my pack with the sustainment pouches attached as well as the assault pouch. With the sustainment pouches attached you can slide a small camp axe externally down one side. With all the pouches attached it makes this bag a bushcraft beast that carries a load quite well and comfortable. On long trips I attach the filbe hydration pack to the exterior of the assault pack with grim locks and it really completes my setup. Wish I could post pics here. Lol
@@derbybushcraftandoutdoors3176 Thanks for getting back to me on such an old post. Turns out I still had an ilbe assault pack that I thought I'd lost years ago. I might just still look into the Filbe though, it seems like a real upgrade though I have no experience with that one.
@@GarbageDeplorableBitterClinger hey no problem. I also have a Facebook page called “‘the modern bushcrafter” where we discuss such things. If you have Facebook stop by and join. It’s a lot easier to share pics and ideas there.
Great review as always Luke. Main pack ilbe. Is winner over the Filbe main pack. Quite surprised at the results with the assault packs. But I’ll take your word for it. I love the ilbe as a main pack. I will be checking out the Filbe for day pack. Thanks for review it’s quite helpful
my ILBE assault pack i got it 4 years a go for $ 45 bucks i like it works good buti uses it in the fall mosty but i am looking at the FILBE again thank you fot the videos
Luke, sign me up for the TOGR boot camp training. What did you use for weight and was it secured in the pack or loose. Thanks I have both of these packs and use them often
Thanx for the test! ILBE corpsman vs FILBE regular assault please! Since they are close in price and capacity to each other. Ilbe corpsman has padded belt and better straps than regular assault, I hope that helps it get closer to filbe assault. I own old corpsman pack and I wish it good luck. If it fails I'm probably changing it to filbe ))
OK, that average price for the FILBE assault pack has to include lower grade used condition packs. I have eBay searches followed for both the whole FILBE system and the pack for the last six months. I can tell you a new assault pack runs much higher.
I own both. The FILBE assault pack costed me $165. The ILBE assault pack is not the one you tested. Mine is an Arc'teryx LEAF Charlie pack with top-notch build quality. They are used one day hiking packs with load of 15~20 pounds IMO, the performance is similar with Charlie pack a bit better. The frame sheet of FILBE is too thin/soft. In addition, Charlie pack looks much much better. The market value of Charlie is several times of the original retail price. That means something. Sorry buddy, I can't agree with you this time.
The army molle 2- 3 day assault pack or the molle 2 medium pack would be a better value considering they can be bought for 30 - 60 bucks and both hold more than the marine counterpart. Marines are trained to be amazing fighters. Doesn't mean they dont pull the short stick on some gear.
I have a Karrimor sf Predator 80-130 for two years now and it's the best pack money can buy. It's a beast of a backpack but it's so well made and comfortable that it makes other bagpacks look like crap. I would like to see this backpack in a review on this channel just for fun.
How did you get the FILBE for such a low price? Do you have a part number where we can find our own? The cheapest I could find, without it being in a full package deal without the ruck, was $150
I personally prefer the FILBE pack seems more comfortable..loaded with 250 rounds of 308 and 200 rounds of 45' ACP plus food and water for 2 days is not bad...the ILBE seems like the quality just isn't there...
I am one of those "out of shape" packers that sweats a lot. In your opinion military or civilian what pack has the best ventilation on the back? Please anyone comment on this question. If Luke is short on time I would appreciate the input from any backpacker.
In general civilian has better ventilation. Military surplus and things designed to be used by the military are designed with durability in mind first and have to be made within certain specs that don't necessarily lend themselves to traits like comfort and and ventilation for example the use of ballistic nylon is heavier and doesn't breath as materials used in civilian equivalents. Anyway there's always the option of buying a civilian pack that looks like a military one.
Ok the filbe is comfortable than the ilbe pack but ilbe is for long range than the other of course the ilbe was used with weight of 30lb in boot camp when I was there it's up to preson what they like :O how about the ka bar vs the US army knife I think the 's bar will win
So in researching the ILBE APB03 Assault Pack family, I find there are 3-models;
- APB03 Corpsman Assault Pack (2380 cu)
- APB03 Recon Assault Pack (2380 cu)
- APB03 Assault Pack (1648 cu)
The one reviewed here was the ILBE APB03 Assault Pack (1648 cu).
The ‘larger’ APB03 ‘Corpsman’ (MEDIC) Assault Pack and its twin the ‘Recon’ Assault Pack are the same packs except that the ‘Corpsman’ is equipped with three insert-compartments for medical supplies.
Shared because this clarified a few thing for me. Thx for the review - Cheers
Thank you for another fine review, Luke. I came across this video only recently. Direct comparisons like this make a lot of sense, so keep up the good work!
I have had the ILBE assault pack for a few years now and have found it to be very useful for certain "missions" in the field. Thanks to your review I got the FILBE version and really enjoy it so far. I agree with your assessment about comfort, breathability on my back, and other comments and feel that it is superior to the ILBE in many ways. However, I will keep using the ILBE, too, because it's still a tough, great little pack.
Having both as well I would agree with you Luke. I've been able to use the FILBE pack with much more modularity than the ILBE.
I would love you to try both Corpsman versions next or FILBE assault pack vs ILBE Recon/Corpsman assault pack
I really like your new direction here. It is a great source of information to have someone with your experience and knowledge testing, and reviewing these items when they are put up against one another. With you Luke, I know I can trust the outcomes. thanks
the filbe assualt pack vs the Army assault pack would be a great video to see please
Id love to see that one
I would have enjoyed seeing that as well
I was thinking the same thing
Luke, Your "VS." of the main packs for both of these series of packs is what helped me go with the ILBE main pack despite your suggestion that I might be happier with the Savotta L Jakkari. Ultimately it came down to the pass through sleeves on either side and that I got a brand new ILBE off of EBAY at a "decent" price! THank you as always for all of your hard work that helps us all make tough decisions much more easily! Your friend, Bill Doyle in Upr Grnwd Lk, NJ
I would join TOGR Boot camp.
I'm down for TOGR boot camp!... When I had my Filbe AP I had it loaded to 35-40 pounds and it handled it very well one of my favorites so far
Of course the assault pack is better for hikes, that's why we use it lol. When I was in I had only seen that woodland ILBE pack but it was never a CIF issued pack and it stands to reason. When you're actually using it for its intended purpose, the assault pack will kick the shit out of the ILBE all day long due to build quality because its made for long rucks. To put it in perspective... we could fully load it down to 40-50lbs of gear and ruck 15 miles and it would still be comfortable to wear. Always loved that pack and I'll have to get another one for my hiking ventures.
Hey if your going to do a pack comparison do the filbe vs the molle II. Cause they are so close to the same but the frames and harnesses are slightly different. Would like to see which of those 2 you would say wins.
Good test! But I think the ilbe back was at a disadvantage because it is a smaller pack and therefore isn't necessarily able to support he same loads as the filbe. So if you where to take that into consideration and put less weight in the ilbe pack the results would be different.
There's nothing the ILBE assault pack does better than the FILBE, though, except for the sick MARPAT + coyote camo scheme. More expensive, less capacity, less flexibility, etc. The point is that you CAN load up the FILBE with 30+ lbs. of gear if you really wanted to, but the ILBE doesn't have that option. I choose my pack based off of how much I need to carry, personally, not the other way around.
For an edc bike (cruiser class hd) bag/pack the ILBE is a hands down better pack for its loadout design. At 1500 cubic inches its 8 inches deep main pocket is more easily packed and unpacked for common items on a bike, ie riding jacket etc as required in cerain areas. It took a long time of trying different loadouts to get a good feel and balance with more wider but certainly more shallow (specs 6"?) And definitely more rigid feel of the FILBE assualt pack. I admit both are very tough and dont fail under load, but having used both for extended periods of time in various locales it is a matter of loadout not just walking under basically normal conditions. I have always enjoyed the versus on TOGR but this test is a bit narrow in scope and info on things. The FILBE is a superb pack but loadout is a challenge being wide and shallow imo. I contract for many US military branches and in fairness it truly comes down to your loadout configuration needs. Keep up the great work but can you do a vs with actual loadouts of same items of actual use and compare? Resu.ts may be quite different. Stay safe out there brothers.
I'd like to see camp axes compete...we will provide the axes
Definitely interested in seeing camp axes
KineticConstant you will as soon as we get our website finished..count on it
American Axe & Tool Co bbbb
I could tell right away that the FILBE road better on your back. It just looked more comfortable.
same - as he noted, chest strap design (which carried it up higher to the shoulders) was better and back-pad conformity. I have an ILBE w/sustainment pouches and load vest, this way you have load distribution (SAR volunteer). Didn't know of the FILBE (mine is the Arc'teryx, was the one tested this OEM? Although don't think result of video would change.) BTW - 35lb is start of mid-weight loads and about the limit of mid-light foot gear. Many don't consider the correlation of pack-load to proper foot gear.
For kicks, I hiked the FILBE assault pack w/ ~35lbs. a little over 10 miles a couple years ago, including a ~3500 ft. change in elevation. That was a mistake. A big one. That sucked. Bad. I've never done a similar trek with the ILBE version, but I'll never do something like that again without a true frame in any event (with that much weight at least). I did the same hike last year with the big brother (the FILBE main ruck) and about 55 lbs., and that made a huge difference. That thing rides so well, but it is heavy - but it's also made for that kind of rucking, so it's built for max punishment.
As I said, given the choice I wouldn't run the assault pack (any kind) with that much weight for any real distance, but it is a GREAT truck pack/short distance/time get 'er done pack. The modular design is awesome and it is pretty comfortable for what it is and for more reasonable applications. I still love it, I just don't use for unintended purposes.
As always, the answer is: "It depends."
The FILBE is is ideal for kicking in doors and rounding up terrorists. It's not a good camping pack. It's a tactical pack. I own it. It's GREAT and is way better than most of the tacticool packs in it's class. It'd make a great truck pack for sure.
I LITERALLY EDC the ILBE assault pack every single day. I've been using it for going on 5 years now. What can I say, it holds up to tons of abuse and use. It's not a camping pack either. It's another patrol pack. So it does it's job well and for the $20 that I paid for it,
Going back to the it depends part, the FILBE is a different beast than the ILBE. It's light years away in features and design. Having used both, I'd take the FILBE for use that I had to live out of the pack for days. The ILBE is overkill for something to use everyday in real life (translated: EXCELLENT).
In Iraq, the ILBE assault bag proved worthless and we had to open purchase 3 day assault bags from eagle and Blackhawk.
The ILBE Assault is a great bag, used one for years. Good starter bag
Med. ALICE pack with frame vs Swedish LK35 with frame.
Could you see if the Filbe assault pack will attach to the ILBE main pack?
Agreed! Would love to know... as you had the ilbe win the main pack vs. we could create the ideal set! Let us know..
@Isomatte thank you. I've been trying to find this out.
I bought a surplus ilbe pack when I was in college but when I enlisted in the Corps we were issued the filbe pack. I like them both but definitely love my filbe pack.
I have an Ilbe from back in the day, but I need to replace that AP. Do you know if the FIlbe assault pack fits on the Ilbe main pack?
You have awesome videos and I enjoy each and everyone of them. CHEERS AND HAVE AN AWESOME DAY.
I'd like you to do a review on the stove I use the (MSR DRAGONFLY ) love the multi fuel use I also have the pocket rocket but try the Dragonfly!
I had the old one issued in Afg, did a couple of patrols with it. The straps are too narrow, though the zippers are tough!
I was getting out of the Marine Corps as the new one was getting issued out. It looks better for sure.
Its a couple hundred cubic inches too big though, but thats just an opinion. Like 200 - 300 Cubic inches less would be great and still take it out for 3 days comfortably. In the old one you could fit a sleeping system, layers, water, food and very little else... somewhere between the 2 sizes of 1500 ci and 2300 ci would be perfect.
Compact/ telescopic fishing poles vs survival fishing kits.
FILBE should be compared to the ILBE corpsman for a fair review imo. Thanks Luke for the 'vs'. I'm gonna look for a nice condition FILBE assault pack on Ebay. :).
MOLLE2 VS FILBE will be interesting!
Busse MOABOLO vs Keffeler Sasquatch ----- Exo mountain 3500 vs kifaru 22mag ----- Hilleberg anything vs MSR anything (3 seasons....4 is a bit too expedition class....maybe)
The filbe is very comfortable for daily use but the ilbe with it's lack of puffy padding is much better when wearing over a plate carrier
Can the FILBE pack be attached to the large ILBE the way that the other one can?
I've been wondering the same thing
The ILBE is better than the FILBE, but the FILBE Assault pack is better than the ILBE Assault pack. Can the FILBE small pack be attached to the ILBE large pack with a minimum of fuss?
Adam
Luke Great Demo...Please show how to pack tent sleeping bag and all for camping please Thank You❤❤
I totally agree with ya Luke. I own both packs. Actually both complete sets with the hydration and main packs. I have my pack with the sustainment pouches attached as well as the assault pouch. With the sustainment pouches attached you can slide a small camp axe externally down one side. With all the pouches attached it makes this bag a bushcraft beast that carries a load quite well and comfortable. On long trips I attach the filbe hydration pack to the exterior of the assault pack with grim locks and it really completes my setup. Wish I could post pics here. Lol
So, does the Filbe assault pack attach to the Ilbe main bag?
@@GarbageDeplorableBitterClinger yes it can
@@derbybushcraftandoutdoors3176 Thanks for getting back to me on such an old post. Turns out I still had an ilbe assault pack that I thought I'd lost years ago. I might just still look into the Filbe though, it seems like a real upgrade though I have no experience with that one.
@@GarbageDeplorableBitterClinger hey no problem. I also have a Facebook page called “‘the modern bushcrafter” where we discuss such things. If you have Facebook stop by and join. It’s a lot easier to share pics and ideas there.
Great review as always Luke. Main pack ilbe. Is winner over the Filbe main pack. Quite surprised at the results with the assault packs. But I’ll take your word for it. I love the ilbe as a main pack. I will be checking out the Filbe for day pack. Thanks for review it’s quite helpful
my ILBE assault pack i got it 4 years a go for $ 45 bucks i like it works good buti uses it in the fall mosty but i am looking at the FILBE again thank you fot the videos
looks like the FILBE would be one that would work for people of any size--tall or short, I would have picked that one
i have both and i agree with the analysis provided!
I OWN A FILB and love it
It would be fun to compare your big bushcraft knife with a comparable knife of another brand. Thank you. That was interesting.
Great review. I'd like to see some comparison between some of the cheaper hydration packs, or surplus hydration packs.
Yea Camelback makes some really rugged pac/hydration bags. MULE, HAWG and afew others.
Adam
Let's see Moose go up against the 4Runner. Joking! But seriously, i wanna see it :)
Luke, sign me up for the TOGR boot camp training. What did you use for weight and was it secured in the pack or loose. Thanks I have both of these packs and use them often
Thanx for the test!
ILBE corpsman vs FILBE regular assault please!
Since they are close in price and capacity to each other. Ilbe corpsman has padded belt and better straps than regular assault, I hope that helps it get closer to filbe assault. I own old corpsman pack and I wish it good luck. If it fails I'm probably changing it to filbe ))
OK, that average price for the FILBE assault pack has to include lower grade used condition packs. I have eBay searches followed for both the whole FILBE system and the pack for the last six months. I can tell you a new assault pack runs much higher.
I love this, thanks for all the hard work!
Will the FILBE pack mount onto the ILBE main pack?
3 years and I'm still wondering haha.
I own both. The FILBE assault pack costed me $165. The ILBE assault pack is not the one you tested. Mine is an Arc'teryx LEAF Charlie pack with top-notch build quality. They are used one day hiking packs with load of 15~20 pounds IMO, the performance is similar with Charlie pack a bit better. The frame sheet of FILBE is too thin/soft. In addition, Charlie pack looks much much better. The market value of Charlie is several times of the original retail price. That means something. Sorry buddy, I can't agree with you this time.
Hm...I wonder could I create a hybrid from the FILBE Assault Pack and ILBE Rucksack?Thus getting the best of both
Good question bloodsucker. I have the same one.
Adam
The army molle 2- 3 day assault pack or the molle 2 medium pack would be a better value considering they can be bought for 30 - 60 bucks and both hold more than the marine counterpart. Marines are trained to be amazing fighters. Doesn't mean they dont pull the short stick on some gear.
I would like to see a Mora go heads up against a high quality knife as in expensive of about the same size.
alice pack vs ?
Corpsman bag/ recon bag is where it’s at
Luke what is the music you play???it sounds like iron maiden and i love them.
Hey Luke how about comparing the FILBE Assault Pack against the Source Tactical 35 Liter Pack
I just ordered the Karrimor SF Predator 30 liters. Have you ever reviewed that pack? Other reviewers seem to give it high marks....
I have a Karrimor sf Predator 80-130 for two years now and it's the best pack money can buy. It's a beast of a backpack but it's so well made and comfortable that it makes other bagpacks look like crap.
I would like to see this backpack in a review on this channel just for fun.
Hell yea. Sign me up
Mike
Love the montage music. Lol.
I wish there was more ILBE's available
I would be interested in what the 30 lbs of weight is. Typical camping gear or some other method?
Raising hand!
How did you get the FILBE for such a low price? Do you have a part number where we can find our own? The cheapest I could find, without it being in a full package deal without the ruck, was $150
Check eBay, they have a ton of them for sale. I just did a search and saw plenty for around $60. - Luke
Is it okay to use this to practice ruck marches or just training in general for the marines/army?
I hate the assault nomenclature. Crap. It is decent gear. Ooooooooooooool Luuuuukey/Soooooozie!!!!❤
I would like to see the 5.11 rush 12 vs cannae legion or 5.11 rush 72 vs cannae phalanx.
I personally prefer the FILBE pack seems more comfortable..loaded with 250 rounds of 308 and 200 rounds of 45' ACP plus food and water for 2 days is not bad...the ILBE seems like the quality just isn't there...
Great video you should do a comparison the army assualt pack and the meduim army pack
Can you test some of the Goruck packs (GR1, Rucker, GR2)?
You had me at 65$.
Adam
Where do you guys buy a good conditioned filbe pack?
Can I ask where to get these back pacls? Any ljnk would be nice
I think a vs of Camelback packs wood be interesting
I could be wrong but is this a reupload, video seems very familiar
I am one of those "out of shape" packers that sweats a lot. In your opinion military or civilian what pack has the best ventilation on the back?
Please anyone comment on this question. If Luke is short on time I would appreciate the input from any backpacker.
In general civilian has better ventilation. Military surplus and things designed to be used by the military are designed with durability in mind first and have to be made within certain specs that don't necessarily lend themselves to traits like comfort and and ventilation for example the use of ballistic nylon is heavier and doesn't breath as materials used in civilian equivalents. Anyway there's always the option of buying a civilian pack that looks like a military one.
Weird my issued filbes throughout my time in the marines never had a waist strap
Where did you get the packs ????
Which one are you looking for?
Filbe assult pack vs Condor 3 Day assult pack?
Ok the filbe is comfortable than the ilbe pack but ilbe is for long range than the other of course the ilbe was used with weight of 30lb in boot camp when I was there it's up to preson what they like :O how about the ka bar vs the US army knife I think the 's bar will win
I would do the boot camp!
Sign me up for boot camp, Sir!
Alice vs malice!
Look into the "Helicon Tex" Matilda pack......
A jansport still beats both of those
Ontario blackbird sk5 vs becker bk2
Personally you Cant beat camelbak
First
Adam Cook You are the chosen one!!!
:-O
God :-O I absolve you of all your sins go in peace
Moose vs. HUMMWV.
I would love to get a HUMMWV. - Luke
external frames
This may be a winter time one, but a sleeping bag vs would be cool. Which bag would provide the most warmth and comfort