I love how you are doing the stock tests to show how a normal truck is capable. I can't wait until you mod the truck and compare it again to see how much they help and hurt the performance. Great job so far.
The only channel that is testing and using the number 1 selling 4wd in Oz that I know. Tired of all the 79s that are out of reach or the chopped 200s. Keeping it real as always - 4 wheeling oz
Well if you're buying a new one of these it's still 60K. But I know what you mean. The number of Hilux's in Australia is more common. Plus other brand dual cab's new and second hand.
Awesome edit, Lancelin is such a great place, as a kid growing up, we had a squatters shack about 20 mins up the beach from the dunes, spent a lot of time fishing off the beach, cray fishing and riding motor bikes. Fast forward a few years and spent time windsurfing and camping, back in 95, got my 70 series short wheel base bogged to the side steps in wind blown sand out the back of the dunes. Spent the next 3 hours digging and dropping tyre pressures down to get out, back in a time of no mobile phones or max trax 😎, will always have a love of that place.
Really cool videos! I'm currently waiting for my Hilux. I ordered an Extra Cab but otherwise exactly the same as yours. We have to wait until January for them to arrive here in Germany. So your videos keep me stoked for the truck every time. Keep em coming!
Was up in the dunes doing the exact same thing a few weekends back in my stock Lux.. couldn’t agree more. Great fun in a very capable stock rig. Great video mate.
Ah the magic of a light 4x4! They always go much better before we add all our gear to them. Great work RD, love that you’re doing this from start to finish and aim to keep it light!
I love my Hilux. Just got back from the Flinders Rangers, got caught up in some heavy flash floods. Was no problem for the Hilux though, made it through those muddy gorges just fine.
Hey Ronny, you make great videos, I like them. I drive Hilux since 25 years, but in Germany we didn't have so nice dunes, but I have fun too. The Hilux is one of the best cars in the world, for real.
Great review Ronny. I know it's yours but it's a very thorough and informative review. I'd be interested to see how it performs once it's got some gear on it.
Great stuff mate. Very interested in seeing what mods you choose and how much difference it makes to capability. I’ve been modifying my 4x4s for over 15 years and have now circled back around to a minimalist approach.
You should load it to GVM with a water pod or something and perform the same tests. Bet you wouldn't be as game with the batman test, or be climbing those dunes as easily. Food for thought before people bolt tons of stuff to their rigs
Great content! Is your choice of 15psi for sand driving an arbitrary one, can you provide some insight into this choice? Are there circumstances in which you would go lower?
You go lower when you get stuck and or the beach is soft asf. For instance on the weekend i got stuck at 15psi. Aired down to 10psi some maxxtrax and i was able to self recover. Ive even gone as low as 5psi before to get up a tall dune and off the beach before. Its amazing what difference to traction a few psi make.
Don't put big tires on it, keep it close to stock! Keep the mods cheap and light. Rock rails, locking front diff, same size tires, and portable winch not attached to the vehicle (with reduction pulleys).
Good review -pleasantly surprised by the power and capability of this unit in stock format ,had a 2018 hilux SR5 and it was a good vehicle ;but, I wouldn't consider another one ,until i saw this video-thanks again
Congrats on the new Ute Ronnie. Have you any concerns about the DPF these 2.8’s have had? Does your one have the Toyota fix of a button to do the DPF clean cycle manually? Great to see you testing the standard vehicle, can’t wait to see what you do with it.
Hi Ronny, Greetings from Dubai the United Arab Emirates where the outdoors are nothing but desert. The LC 200 has set the bar to be the best offroader in the desert. Can you please do some comparison tests with the Hilux and a LC 200 to find out which is the best ? I want to get my hands on a affordable and reliable desert runner. Thanks and love your channel.
What is the best gear for a wide open flat beach with very fine dry soft sand? Not packed at all and eats trucks. I have a 100 series Land Cruiser. Suggest 4H locked center diff maybe 3rd gear? Or just put it in 4L second gear start?Thanks from Texas and love your videos!
Great video , fantastic pictures. Love that it is a real world test/review with a stock vehicle. Very relevant to dual cab owners, many who are new 4wding ( me 😀) Thank you , keep up the good work. Looking forward to the trip.👍
Amazing how good the cars are straight out of the box. For the average Joe, what you're doing in this is the most they would normally get done. Save the weight and only get the mods you really need for what you're planning on tackling.
As a new model it will come with features like TPMS and lots airbags that dont feature in older trucks. It would be great to hear whether features like these should be modified or disabled for off roading. It would be a nice Q&A topic! ken
Hi Ronny, i just bough a 2016 Hilux, which i recon is quite similar to yours. just watched the first Vids of your non-modified reviews, and i cant seem to find the last one, the one where you go on your trip am i blind, or is it hidden somehwere... thanks for your pointers
Stock the hilux will win ez But with mode the 79 takes the cake. The lux is lighter with better ground clearance under the diff. Also better tuned engine.
@@woolengrappler I like more payload, towing capacity and durability but the one thing going for the Tacoma is that it does definitely look better. Wish the braun of the Hilux and the good looks of the Tacoma could be combined(to the American public Hilux might sound like an abbreviation for high luxury even if Toyota provided a expination).
Hey Ronny, interested in your thoughts on the tie down points on the front of the new lux; I understand that they are not rated for recovery, but I also wonder why Toyota have changed the way the tie downs are fixed to the chassis, on previous models they were bent and welded parallel to the chassis. On the new model they are fixed through the chassis via 4 drilled holes and welded at all points were the chassis meets the tiedown, they certainly look far beefier than the old models and steel gauge is very similar to that of a 4t shackle. I'm not going to use them as recovery points i just find it strange that Toyota would spend money beefing something up for no reason, thoughts would be appreciated
I love that you are waiting to modify it to show us how capable it is stock, but personally I would add rock sliders early, it won't really change is performance and capability too much for stock testing, but would still be a safety measure just in case.
Watching these makes me wish I could take my '99 Silverado k2500 out for a weekend trip, but we just don't have any fun trails in southern Illinois, just some mud pits that are so busy they're really not any fun.
Hey great stuff you rekon you cld do a video on how to drive in different terains for beginers like me i have to x trails but 2 scared to take them off road but wld love to only if i knew what i need to do like stopping on sand mud how much to exelerate when not to stop or exelerate all these things wld be great info thanks keep up the good work and hope u make this vid please
Nice work Ronny. I was surprised there wasn’t a cautionary warning about “having fun on sand” as speed, change in moisture content and quick change in directions can lead to roll overs. Lookin forward to a lot more weight in the truck.....and towing? Plus, do you have a twin who bought the manual model?😄
We have the crawl control on the trd off road tacomas in the US and the auto braking feature sounds like your truck is breaking apart! It sounds scary lol
As always excellent videos! Love the hilux! May i ask what made you select the auto gearbox? If im not mistaken on an older video you said that you prefer the manual gearbox. Thanks for the great videos again!
As others have posted wish it was available in the USA 🇺🇸 I've always thought it would be better than our Tacoma Slap a set of BFG KO2's and go pretty much anywhere
It would have been interesting to monitor the transmission temperatures while playing on the sand. Can be done easily via scangauage or similar with the right codes.
I so regret not buying a sand flag and driving the dunes where I was this weekend. I didn't think the Prado (gx470) could have handled it but looking back on it, it totally could have. oh well, next time.
Whould of like to see the difference between disabling the traction aids vs pulling the traction and stability fuses. Im still curious if the computer will intervene on side slopes. Rony if you ever wana come to dubai and see how we do it Desert Fellas will be happy to host you.
Would the rear stepping out not also be contributed to by the rear track width being 15mm wider than the front? It won't be following the exact same wheel path. Same issue inherited from the 79 series.
i find the gear changes(auto only available in both models in NZ) in low range are quite harsh and happen at very specific speeds,seems to do its onwn thing.Low range first very good at holding
Hey Ronny, could you do some sort of review on the stock lights? Toyota say they are Bi-Beam, do they perform as good or better than the outgoing model?
Finding this series extremely interesting. One thing I am wondering about is when you put the bullbars on what to do about the front sensors? My car, currently stock, has front parking sensors and lane following as well as some camera lens thingy. Is it possible to install a bullbar and not lose those capabilities?
Yes it is but there are some things you can’t do. I’ll cover these when I do install a bar to it. For now on stage one the bull bar is not on that list yet
I own the 2019 SR5 version and its still stock. The only thing I did was change the H/T tyres to the A/T tyres when I bought it because I feel the HT are very slippery around where I live on the roads. Plus I didnt like chrome rims haha. Im curious to see what you do to yours, especially who you go to for your bullbar!
Yeah first time I used the downhill assist in my vehicle I thought that I had broken it tbh. The sound of the abs kicking in can be a bit of a shock when you aren't used to it. Works amazingly well and even though people carry on about "good" drivers not needing it I am yet to see a driver who is good enough to brake individual wheels if it is needed. Sort of showed with the downhill bit of this video imo. It sounds like the Lux is working pretty hard at times tbh. If I engage sand mode in mine it disables the T/C and holds the thing at peak torque/2300 rpm. With an eight speed gearbox and virtually seamless changes you hardly know that it is changing gears. Bit different to watching a manual being revved off its tits and then bogging down as they try to get the next gear up. I love manual gearboxes but the way these things operate these days is very very impressive. Sure as hell wouldn't enjoy the bill to repair one though.
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I love how you are doing the stock tests to show how a normal truck is capable. I can't wait until you mod the truck and compare it again to see how much they help and hurt the performance. Great job so far.
Best 4x4 channel on UA-cam I've found so far.
Agreed
The only channel that is testing and using the number 1 selling 4wd in Oz that I know. Tired of all the 79s that are out of reach or the chopped 200s. Keeping it real as always - 4 wheeling oz
Try roam overlanding he is from south africa
Jose M he talks too much about things, drama queen
Not taking anything away from the Hilux, but it seems very similar to my 2020 Ranger. Wondering if anyone has compared the two?
Well if you're buying a new one of these it's still 60K. But I know what you mean. The number of Hilux's in Australia is more common. Plus other brand dual cab's new and second hand.
@@wanderingambience799 I beg to differ here. His content on his new(used) baaki is good. Never saw him whining...
My respect to the cameraman. Great work!
He has a channel, intents offroad
Hi Rony loving the hilux footage 👍
Awesome edit, Lancelin is such a great place, as a kid growing up, we had a squatters shack about 20 mins up the beach from the dunes, spent a lot of time fishing off the beach, cray fishing and riding motor bikes. Fast forward a few years and spent time windsurfing and camping, back in 95, got my 70 series short wheel base bogged to the side steps in wind blown sand out the back of the dunes. Spent the next 3 hours digging and dropping tyre pressures down to get out, back in a time of no mobile phones or max trax 😎, will always have a love of that place.
Really cool videos! I'm currently waiting for my Hilux. I ordered an Extra Cab but otherwise exactly the same as yours. We have to wait until January for them to arrive here in Germany. So your videos keep me stoked for the truck every time. Keep em coming!
Was up in the dunes doing the exact same thing a few weekends back in my stock Lux.. couldn’t agree more. Great fun in a very capable stock rig. Great video mate.
Beauty Ron, I glad you tested rear locker downhill. I've always wondered if there was a benefit to keep them locked downhill.
I have eye balled this vehicle for my possible next, so totally loving this stock review b4 doing the only Mods required.
Cheers Ron
Ive ordered the same spec in the same colour. Looks good and im impressed with how good it is as stock
Ah the magic of a light 4x4! They always go much better before we add all our gear to them.
Great work RD, love that you’re doing this from start to finish and aim to keep it light!
Great videography. Always like your videos and this series is really engaging, Ronny. Keep up the good work!
Really loving this series of videos 👍👍
Can't say how much I appreciate this stock series! Also looking forward to seeing only minimal essential mods 🤟
loving these reviews on the 2020 lux..looking forward to the next
I love my Hilux. Just got back from the Flinders Rangers, got caught up in some heavy flash floods. Was no problem for the Hilux though, made it through those muddy gorges just fine.
Best review, this is what i need for the beach trips! Thanks mate!!
Hey Ronny, you make great videos, I like them. I drive Hilux since 25 years, but in Germany we didn't have so nice dunes, but I have fun too. The Hilux is one of the best cars in the world, for real.
The Hilux seems pretty capable. Such a beautiful landscape too!
Great video Ronny. Got some good tips from that one. Looking forward to the mods coming up!
Great video mate! Visually gorgeous and that Hilux looks awesome in the sand.
I’m really enjoying this, it seems like this Hilux will give my 2014 Ranger Wildtrak a run for its money. Much love from the Philippines.
Loving this series, just a bought a px3 ranger wildtrak, hopefully you can show me what’s needed to hit some starter tracks and touring setups
Congrats on the ranger 🤟
Ronny Dahl would love to see some comparisons between your new hilux and a bi-turbo ranger. Having a 10 speed would be interesting off road
the michelin LTX a/t 2 are surprisingly good off road
Great channel, I’ve just bought the 2021 Fortuner so really helpful as same set up!
Another amazing Sunday thanks Ronny go the luxy
Great review Ronny. I know it's yours but it's a very thorough and informative review.
I'd be interested to see how it performs once it's got some gear on it.
Nice! Needed some content to watch while working lol! Greeting from USA👋🇺🇲
Love your honest content. So many just promote products, we need to know the bad and the good
BEST RONNY KEEP IT UP BRO!
Great stuff mate. Very interested in seeing what mods you choose and how much difference it makes to capability. I’ve been modifying my 4x4s for over 15 years and have now circled back around to a minimalist approach.
You should load it to GVM with a water pod or something and perform the same tests. Bet you wouldn't be as game with the batman test, or be climbing those dunes as easily.
Food for thought before people bolt tons of stuff to their rigs
You think he won’t load it up eventually this is just testing what she can do standard
Power mode not sports mode. Made for towing - under load the gear changes wouldn't be as violent.
Thanks for sharing! Looked like a great time. 👍
Loving the new content with the LUX! I got the 2.8 gd-6 in south africa and loving it. interested to see what front bar you going to put on Ronny:)))
5:34 Is that a good thing though? Isn't the fun of driving partly in being actively involved in the process?
So far so good! Good presentation.
Great content! Is your choice of 15psi for sand driving an arbitrary one, can you provide some insight into this choice? Are there circumstances in which you would go lower?
You go lower when you get stuck and or the beach is soft asf. For instance on the weekend i got stuck at 15psi. Aired down to 10psi some maxxtrax and i was able to self recover. Ive even gone as low as 5psi before to get up a tall dune and off the beach before. Its amazing what difference to traction a few psi make.
Fucking yes bro! Been waiting so long for a "budget" set up from you on a stock vehicle (getting a tacoma soon)! Upload it asap 😂😂🙏🏽🙏🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Don't put big tires on it, keep it close to stock!
Keep the mods cheap and light. Rock rails, locking front diff, same size tires, and portable winch not attached to the vehicle (with reduction pulleys).
Good review -pleasantly surprised by the power and capability of this unit in stock format ,had a 2018 hilux SR5 and it was a good vehicle ;but, I wouldn't consider another one ,until i saw this video-thanks again
The motor and gear box is a different setup in the facelift
Great video. Would love a bit more info on what gear youre in at each point, high/low range and traction control on/off. Loving the hilux vids!!
Congrats on the new Ute Ronnie. Have you any concerns about the DPF these 2.8’s have had? Does your one have the Toyota fix of a button to do the DPF clean cycle manually?
Great to see you testing the standard vehicle, can’t wait to see what you do with it.
Hi Ronny, Greetings from Dubai the United Arab Emirates where the outdoors are nothing but desert. The LC 200 has set the bar to be the best offroader in the desert. Can you please do some comparison tests with the Hilux and a LC 200 to find out which is the best ? I want to get my hands on a affordable and reliable desert runner. Thanks and love your channel.
What is the best gear for a wide open flat beach with very fine dry soft sand? Not packed at all and eats trucks. I have a 100 series Land Cruiser. Suggest 4H locked center diff maybe 3rd gear? Or just put it in 4L second gear start?Thanks from Texas and love your videos!
A personal question is it better than your 79 top video tiger 🐅
Great video! Can tell you are having a blast with this truck! Question is..... when is Torbs getting one? ❤️🐞
Torbs is still looking for a Lada Niva 😂
Great video , fantastic pictures.
Love that it is a real world test/review with a stock vehicle. Very relevant to dual cab owners, many who are new 4wding ( me 😀)
Thank you , keep up the good work.
Looking forward to the trip.👍
Amazing how good the cars are straight out of the box. For the average Joe, what you're doing in this is the most they would normally get done. Save the weight and only get the mods you really need for what you're planning on tackling.
I AM WAITING FOR THIS!
My Prado performs and handles the same, bloody love it. You should have got rid of your gas guzzler ages ago!
Great stuff, loving the new taco! 👍👍
Lake Havasu, Az.
Far superior to a Tacoma is a Hilux
As a new model it will come with features like TPMS and lots airbags that dont feature in older trucks. It would be great to hear whether features like these should be modified or disabled for off roading. It would be a nice Q&A topic!
ken
Hi Ronny, i just bough a 2016 Hilux, which i recon is quite similar to yours.
just watched the first Vids of your non-modified reviews, and i cant seem to find the last one, the one where you go on your trip
am i blind, or is it hidden somehwere...
thanks for your pointers
would love to see stock to stock comparison between 79 dual cab and hilux on same obstacle
Stock the hilux will win ez
But with mode the 79 takes the cake.
The lux is lighter with better ground clearance under the diff. Also better tuned engine.
Ugh, why can’t we get the Hilux in the USA!? Seems like a great midsize truck.
It's too small for America because already there's already Tacoma
Mineral Gaming it’s very similar in size, but way more durable with a much higher payload.
@@mineralgaming7066 there should really only be the hilux, I really don't understand why they make the tacoma tbh
@@AssyMcgeeKicksAce Cause gas price is so low
@@woolengrappler I like more payload, towing capacity and durability but the one thing going for the Tacoma is that it does definitely look better. Wish the braun of the Hilux and the good looks of the Tacoma could be combined(to the American public Hilux might sound like an abbreviation for high luxury even if Toyota provided a expination).
Hey Ronny, interested in your thoughts on the tie down points on the front of the new lux; I understand that they are not rated for recovery, but I also wonder why Toyota have changed the way the tie downs are fixed to the chassis, on previous models they were bent and welded parallel to the chassis. On the new model they are fixed through the chassis via 4 drilled holes and welded at all points were the chassis meets the tiedown, they certainly look far beefier than the old models and steel gauge is very similar to that of a 4t shackle. I'm not going to use them as recovery points i just find it strange that Toyota would spend money beefing something up for no reason, thoughts would be appreciated
My 4runner in sequential shift mode in the low range is also sharp and snappy. Been this way since new.
I love that you are waiting to modify it to show us how capable it is stock, but personally I would add rock sliders early, it won't really change is performance and capability too much for stock testing, but would still be a safety measure just in case.
Thanks Ron, would love to see how it would perform towing a 2.5 to 3 tonne caravan, and what the economy would be like.
Watching these makes me wish I could take my '99 Silverado k2500 out for a weekend trip, but we just don't have any fun trails in southern Illinois, just some mud pits that are so busy they're really not any fun.
Hey great stuff you rekon you cld do a video on how to drive in different terains for beginers like me i have to x trails but 2 scared to take them off road but wld love to only if i knew what i need to do like stopping on sand mud how much to exelerate when not to stop or exelerate all these things wld be great info thanks keep up the good work and hope u make this vid please
Strange? This engine noise is different from the 2.8 version of Taiwan? Do you need to add urea to your car?
Downhill assist you set the speed with the pedal, then press the assit button and you will progress down hill at that speed unless overridden 👍
Nice work Ronny.
I was surprised there wasn’t a cautionary warning about “having fun on sand” as speed, change in moisture content and quick change in directions can lead to roll overs.
Lookin forward to a lot more weight in the truck.....and towing?
Plus, do you have a twin who bought the manual model?😄
Can we get a 0-100 please. How does it hold up next to the ford and triton? Thanks
Is this the updated hilux with 150kw? As it was mentioned as the 2021 and the 2020.
We have the crawl control on the trd off road tacomas in the US and the auto braking feature sounds like your truck is breaking apart! It sounds scary lol
Wow nice ride!!!
As always excellent videos! Love the hilux! May i ask what made you select the auto gearbox? If im not mistaken on an older video you said that you prefer the manual gearbox.
Thanks for the great videos again!
Ronny do you have any thoughts on the truck claws? I would be great to hear your opinion on them.
As others have posted wish it was available in the USA 🇺🇸 I've always thought it would be better than our Tacoma
Slap a set of BFG KO2's and go pretty much anywhere
great episode Ronny, i have a Question. What os the better rust proofing, the electronic of the the traditional chemical ?
I’m not convinced about the electronic rust protection. I think general maintenance and cleaning is key and has worked well for my vehicles so far
Best truck ever!!
It would have been interesting to monitor the transmission temperatures while playing on the sand. Can be done easily via scangauage or similar with the right codes.
I so regret not buying a sand flag and driving the dunes where I was this weekend. I didn't think the Prado (gx470) could have handled it but looking back on it, it totally could have. oh well, next time.
Whould of like to see the difference between disabling the traction aids vs pulling the traction and stability fuses. Im still curious if the computer will intervene on side slopes. Rony if you ever wana come to dubai and see how we do it Desert Fellas will be happy to host you.
Ronny will my 2015 Prado be roughly the same on sand ?
What do you recon
Right. I’m confused. Is it a 20 or a 21 Hilux?
Same model
20, I think. He talked about it in the delivery video.
budget camping setup is hype, looking forward to the next video!
Would the rear stepping out not also be contributed to by the rear track width being 15mm wider than the front? It won't be following the exact same wheel path.
Same issue inherited from the 79 series.
Pretty sure then tracks is the same front and rear but I’ll put a tape on it
Ronny Dahl 2020 model lists them as 15mm difference on red book, but they could have changed for 2021
Roger I’ll check it iut
Nice vid, should do a frame/chassis comparison between hilux and 79
Awesome would like to buy one for a family weekender and touring but NZ just isn't anywhere near as awesome as Aus for adventure touring.
I think for gear, you should change the atf right now, for better shift feel because sometimes the firat fill of atf is not really to the max
i find the gear changes(auto only available in both models in NZ) in low range are quite harsh and happen at very specific speeds,seems to do its onwn thing.Low range first very good at holding
Would be good to see coolant/air temps etc on a scan gauge or similar while it’s stock then again after fitting bull bar and other mods happen.
Hey Ronny, could you do some sort of review on the stock lights? Toyota say they are Bi-Beam, do they perform as good or better than the outgoing model?
Finding this series extremely interesting. One thing I am wondering about is when you put the bullbars on what to do about the front sensors? My car, currently stock, has front parking sensors and lane following as well as some camera lens thingy. Is it possible to install a bullbar and not lose those capabilities?
Yes it is but there are some things you can’t do. I’ll cover these when I do install a bar to it.
For now on stage one the bull bar is not on that list yet
@@Ronny_Dahl Looking forward to it.
thnx Ronny gr8 test gogo hilux ...can wiat to see what it wil do with more load ,,and mut tyres :-)
If you’re torn between buying the hilux or a new 79 in your unbiased opinion what would you choose
I own the 2019 SR5 version and its still stock. The only thing I did was change the H/T tyres to the A/T tyres when I bought it because I feel the HT are very slippery around where I live on the roads. Plus I didnt like chrome rims haha.
Im curious to see what you do to yours, especially who you go to for your bullbar!
The bullbar is the big question. It’s the face of the vehicle
How will be with the driver and 400 kg load?
How do you guys go with communicating with other drivers not in your group. I get a bit stressed when going over a crest or on the single car tracks
Excellent video - Yes I second (third) stock tires in mud please
Can you tell me the brand and model of the tire? Thank you
Whining noise check cant wait for the updates
Manual 4 cylinder Prados make the same whining noise. It gets louder in low range. Sounds like a rally car with sequential gears. I like it.
Im torn between this and the triton. Which one is more capable? Any advice please. Thanks 🙏
Not even a question the hilux is better
Does it have an electronic throttle like the tacoma Ronny?
Lancelin dunes are still firm underneath, try in December with load
Yeah first time I used the downhill assist in my vehicle I thought that I had broken it tbh.
The sound of the abs kicking in can be a bit of a shock when you aren't used to it. Works amazingly well and even though people carry on about "good" drivers not needing it I am yet to see a driver who is good enough to brake individual wheels if it is needed. Sort of showed with the downhill bit of this video imo.
It sounds like the Lux is working pretty hard at times tbh.
If I engage sand mode in mine it disables the T/C and holds the thing at peak torque/2300 rpm. With an eight speed gearbox and virtually seamless changes you hardly know that it is changing gears. Bit different to watching a manual being revved off its tits and then bogging down as they try to get the next gear up.
I love manual gearboxes but the way these things operate these days is very very impressive.
Sure as hell wouldn't enjoy the bill to repair one though.