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79 series VS HILUX
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- 79 series VS HILUX
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0:38 My view on the 79 series
2:25 My view on the HILUX
3:22 COST INVOLVED
5:14 Turning Circle BATTLE
6:10 Appeal
7:45 BEST DAILY DRIVER
8:30 Toughest Beach Challenge 79 series
9:30 Toughest Beach Challenge HILUX
10:28 YOU NEED MORE SKILLS TO DRIVE A .....
11:25 General Off-roading
12:35 Interior Comfort
14:45 KIDS Shootout
15:50 Outback Corrugations
16:20 FUEL ECO
18:19 TOWING
19:19 WHICH VEHICLE DO......
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Ronny. Great show mate, BUT... there’s a few things that you’ve missed. I have owned nothing but Hilux’s for over 30 years and my father has had nothing but 70 series cruisers over the same period, so I’m speaking from nearly a couple million km’s experience.
1. The Hilux might have the same power, but the most important thing is that it has more torque and is combined with an auto box. There is a big advantage right there.
2. The Hilux is substantially lighter, so naturally is going to glide over sand more easily.
3. The Landcruiser may have less ground clearance under the front, but it remains constant regardless of suspension travel. The Hilux with its independent front will drag its guts more easily on steep downhills, when the weight of the vehicle compresses the front more (just ask anyone who drives the Vic high country). Conversely, the Hilux auto will be much better on steep climbs as it allows you to crawl over things that a manual would have to hit harder because they’re trying to keep the engine on song. The auto tranny, while still offering reasonable engine braking, will be nowhere near as good as the cruiser on steep downhills. When climbing, the Hilux will also pick up a wheel far more easily than the live axle front cruiser, so care needs to be taken to not snap a cv if the wheel slams down while accelerating hard.
4. Toughness & Practicality. There’s no doubt the cruiser is a tougher rig. It’s simpler and was originally designed as a working and military vehicle. It’s sturdier in the rear of the chassis, and has a larger rear diff which gives it the advantage for towing. The cruiser is also very upright with it’s cabin and driving position making it very practical to get in and out of even if you’re wearing a hat. On the other hand, the Hilux is much more car like, is harder to get into and has less headroom than the cruiser, but is still comfortable once you’re in it. I have noticed that a weekend of 4wd tracks in the high country will likely result in the Hilux needing a wheel alignment, whereas the cruisers can handle a lot more punishment before that’s required. It has to be said that an independent suspension system while reasonably strong, is much more complex and will likely need more maintenance over time than the robust live axle of the cruiser.
5. Brakes and steering. Jesus Ronny, if there’s one massive difference between these two vehicles, it’s the brakes. How could you not mention the brakes??? While the Hilux may only have drums on the rear and they do require constant adjustment every 10,000km, the Hilux brakes are very good when you really need to pull up. The Landcruiser’s brakes are a disgrace, as proven by the number of upgrade kits out there in the market. They only get worse as the mikes rack up and we always warn anyone that drives ours to be wary of the brakes. Also, the drum in disc handbrake on the Landcruiser is piss poor. The Landcruiser’s steering is also terrible. It’s very slow to react and requires a lot of wheel movement to make anything happen. You do eventually get used to this and it does have an upside of not kicking back over very rough tracks, whereas in the Hilux you really need to keep your thumbs to the outside on rough, rocky low range tracks. Rack and pinion steering systems kickback more and aren’t as tough.
6. The one thing they both have is great reliability if the are maintained and driven sensibly. They also have the best dealer network by a long shot.
Yea my biggest gripe with IFS is the amount of components it has, meaning more points of failure. Great in town, but weaker offroad when compared SFA.
Guess I’m getting a hilux then.
Amen Brother and that’s why I love my slightly lifted 200, it has the best of both worlds (except the manual box) and if I treat it with respect it never lets me down.
Cheers Tony
Nice👍👌
*Points at hilux: I know this is brilliant
*Points at 79series: But I like this
(Clarkson meme reference)
🤣🤣🤣
And at the end of the day doesn't matter what you have as long as you get out there and have shitloads of fun
So accurate 😂
you're choosing the 79 based on 1 factor. it makes a cool noise. And 100% of people agree haha
100% don’t agree. The 79 makes an awful din. It’s not a good sounding engine at all.
I own one. The best sounding engine I've ever heard.
@@jobguerekull1267 you can’t have heard many engines at all then. The 79 is just nasty. One of the worst ever.
@jerrymyahzcat. Well that's my opinion bro. You got yours I got mine.
@@jobguerekull1267 fair comment but despite how they sound, they are still a rubbish, old, outdated, underpowered engine.
It would be interesting to see the total cost for both vehicles, I suspect the 79 might nearly be twice as much. Strip out emotion and it’s a no brainer, Hilux makes way more sense.
The thing with the 79 series is that you choose it with your heart.
That was the best demonstration of measuring competing turning circles ever 👍
Dittos!!!
Indeed. But I noticed the 79 actually kept it's line. Notice how it perfectly traced over it's turn radius 4 times. Perfect circle!
Greetings from Kuching, Malaysia! I always enjoy your videos Ronny! It's very informative, educational and entertaining to watch. No BS and straight to the point.
The first time I drove a Land Cruiser, a long time ago now, the feeling I got right away was, "this thing is tough!", it more or less told me "you can mess with me I won't brake!" It had done 250k by then and was 13 years old. And that feeling was proven right, that was in a 60 series, the 70 series has that same aura and that's been proven right as well, they are not perfect and lack creature comforts but you know where ever you go you will be driving the thing back too. It gives me the confidence to take that thing anywhere I want to go and just do it and I have! That's why I would, between these two, chose the 79 everytime. (BTW still daily driving that same 60 now.)
Won’t brake? Yeah the brakes are a bit average. You mean won’t break!
That's why my hd79 will be staying with we for a long time it's saved the wife's Prado and many rangers, Colorado's and hiluxs you hook up a strap or chain it just pulls and doesn't back off it just moves forward
@@jerrymyahzcat hahahaha
@@carlmenzel8744 I've got a hd79 too and I don't think I'll ever sell it
@@carlmenzel8744 better the 79 or the 80?
Here in the US we sometimes call those ac vents "ball chillers" haha
Right! You think the Aussies would have adopted that more! Should be standard... but I guess too many wives complained about chapped lips!
@@craigquann 🤣🤣🤣
I was just about to comment this. I had a 1996 Chevy k1500 that had the ball chiller. Really that was the only good thing about the truck lol.
Testicools
Beach Challenge. Major difference is weight. Weight is arguably the biggest game-changer with 4wds. Very often overlooked. I'm glad you, and several others are bringing this to people's attention! Great video!
I think that most people would know that something heavy is not going to go as good as a lighter vehicle in sand
Yup. Were both videos filmed on the same day? Kinda looked like the ruts were a bit more gnarly on the 79 run. HiLux made it look easy either way.
@@thebob3712 it may seem obvious, but there are a heap of people out there who are way too heavy
@@Outland9000 he addressed that in the video. Filmed on different days. Tracks are different every day.
I think that the Hilux's suspension probably helped a fair bit. IFS is keeping both wheels in contact with the ground and the 79 was lifting wheels.
The lightest wins the heavy in the sand EVERY DAY.
Fine vid. Cheers
Spot on … in my poor old RC Colorado farm ute I have driven around a number of 200 and 70 series and then pulled them out at our local beach … weight and steering wheel attachments seem to be the biggest factor.
lol, I know.
Imagine spending 200k to build a monster and then watch a Suzuki Jimny running around you, while u r stuck in the wet sand.
It's hard, to say the least
@@chrisbouris3699 Suzuki jimmy would beat both of them because of weight
depends on tires & driver.. more weight = bigger tires.. 35 x 13.5 , @ 10 psi,,go anywhere..
I just ordered my 79. I worked hard and saved for it. I will receive hate because people like to hate. I bought it because I like it. I couldn’t give a crap what anyone thinks.
I don't care if the 79 series only came with 3 wheels instead of 4 from factory. If you can get it sounding as good as yours. It's totally worth it Omg that sound going up the sand dunes. 👌
79 never disappoints. Hilux is a forgettable modern vehicle that will look and feel old in a couple of years. 79 is a timeless.
Haha that turning circle was golden ronny! Definitely one of your best videos.
You’ve convinced me - no 79 for me ... I’m still loving my 97 hilux single cab and my 05 Prado
prado,ifs,sell it.. or dont go 4x4ing..
@@phantomwalker8251 surely prado isn't that bad?
Prado's are more capable than a 79 and you don't have to sell your left testical to buy one
Man, I would love a 79 but we don't get them here in the UK. I always thought the Hilux was tough but only a pretender compared to the 79 but not any more. Thanks Ronny. Great review!
With all due respect to hilux, my choice is 79 series hands down!!
79 series is absolutely awesome
so,,you have 10k spare to fix the rear diff,then,,another 5k in pocket,for the mechanic..to fix the rest of it..like,,,say,,,starter motor for 1..
@@phantomwalker8251 79 sound big loud goodness, 79 go braaap braaap so 79 big better, 79 V8, 79 might be big cash money, so get a good job and stop complaining, braaaap braaaap
@@phantomwalker8251 but yeh 79 got raped in this lmao
One of your best videos in my opinion. Thank you so much for uploading. Hope you are staying safe in the current WA lockdown.
Cars are door enjoying, that straight pipe on the 79,always put a smile on the face
Excellent review. The Hilux is (in some shape or form) sold, tried and tested all over the world. It's mass-produced, which means better and cheaper parts, better serviceability, and lower production cost (and hence price).
To cut a long story short, it's Hilux for 99% of the users out there...
The best car comparison by far in the whole internet..... Great and brilliant comparative factors to discuss from a well experienced guy who is truly an off roader. Funny honest and straightforward man.
Whish you safe a fun trips, brother and all audience
Thanks from Toyota Nation
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Top video mate! I’ve a 2021 LC 76 here in NZ and it’s only just run in but I love it. My brain says anything other than a 70 series but my heart says nothing but a 70 series. I especially love the many options for altering the side mirrors 😆
I love the 76 series vehicles shows yours been going?
@@willmcc05 - Yep the 76 is outstanding 👌 I’ve been doing a lot of backcountry stuff this week in the remote parts of New Zealand’s Southern Alps 🙂. “Going bush” as we say here 🙂. Have a fab day mate.
It's simple. If the 4wd is for light to medium tracks the hilux is perfectly suited. If you want to drive the hardest tracks day night day out a solid axle truck is a must. Either 79, 80. 105s. patrols. jeeps etc.
"79 series VS HILUX" Or how to flex on Americans.
Eh I like the Tacoma better anyways. But the 79 on the other hand.... 👀
We would do anything for the tacoma here.
@@AP-ow5vu Interesting. May I ask why? Certainly, the Tacoma is a good (if to me, boring) truck. But, it doesn't seem objectively better than the Hilux, other than being bigger.
@@thedamnyankee1 Over here having a ute (pickup) is extremely desirable but the only options are the hilux or 70 series.
They are very much smaller than say a 200 series landcruiser for example so for people who want the bigger size and the bells and whistles of the 200 series but still want a ute, there's no such vehicle sold here that can do that.
Some people pay huge money to get a 200 series chopped into a ute but if they sold the tacoma here people would just buy that instead.
I have met one bloke who imported a Tacoma and got it converted to RHD but the cost of doing so was unbelievable. The 70 series is so disgustingly expensive for what you're getting that they easily blow out into an 100k car when you put a decent tray on it and do some mods and your basically driving around in an 80's 75 series with a nicer radio and a v8. Its a joke.
If toyota made the tacoma in RHD and had a diesel option for about $70,000-90,000 they'd sell like hot potatoes.
@@AP-ow5vu I Think there is an interesting difference here. In the us "Large" pickups are easy to comeby, (F-150 anyone?) While the number of medium or small trucks is small (starting to rise though, finally.) You want the Tacoma because it's bigger, but here its a medium truck, while we want the Hilux because its small, but you think its not big enough. As Obi-wan said, its all about the point of view.
I've owned my 79 since last August. It's a labour of love and with patience (and lots of cash) can be turned into the best horse for the course that is Australia. It's reputation precedes it.
All comes down to the torque and sound of a V8 ,all else can be changed . Won't swap my 79 for anything . I even get withdrawal symptoms when it goes in for a service . They may have a few drawbacks but you forget all that when you climb up into her and turn the ignition , yes , V8 .the Best feeling
Just a few drawbacks?
@@davidvoss1508 both trucks are tough and both are used in the mines in western australia but both have there own draw backs as do all vehicles , it comes down to horses for courses and personal like . I've had hiluxes in the past on road and in the bush and my choice would be the cruiser
too many design flaws.. too expensive,,withdrawal symptoms,,yes,,bank account.. 2 main factors for them being sht. starter & rear diff.[ &,turning circle.],. 1k per injector.hell,i can buy 8 for a 7.3 tdi.. you obviously are not mechanical,or youd change your own oil.. money over sense..think about this,,proven fact,,ask any mechanic.. a 6 cyl of same cubes,is way better than a v8..to me,4.5,is pidly,for a v8 diesel.. cummins have a 5lt. chev [ isuzu ],have the 6.6,which is what id buy..
@@phantomwalker8251 yes toyota are changing my oil at the moment for warranty purposes only and as for mechanical knowledge , I did my time as a mechanic and served 15 years then then worked at a engine and fuel systems research and development company for 9 years and the last 16 years I've been working as a fitter and machinest , so as for mechanical knowledge I get by . We just came back from prospecting out north east of Perth WA ,it rained for two days straight and the tracks turned to crap, we were toeing a caravan ,the cruiser didn't faulter one bit through the mud and flash flooded creeks , most 4x4s wouldn't have made it on there own without toeing , so if you are trying to convert me you've got the wrong bloke , just look at how many gears the 4cyl and 6cyls are running that will be an indicator of how much usable torque they have . And yes the cruisers engine has been modified but its only running 5 gears and dose very good at that. I will be fair ,the Isuzu aren't too bad but my choice would still be the cruiser , that's just the way it is .
Should have mentioned about the longevity and repairability of each.
Big factor in my opinion when using a vehicle in a remote application.
@@flash1face1 I think that's true, however the 70 series requires a lot of additional expense to make it livable. I own a 76, so my statement is based on my experience. I previously owned a Prado which was one of the best vehicles I have owned, however the 70 series has a "soul "which none of my other vehicles had. I think Defender and Wrangler owners can only understand this. Anyone contemplating a 70 series needs to have deep pockets for modifications or a willingness and time to upgrade the vehicle themselves. Cheers.
@@flash1face1 but when yo tune the hilux to have 30hp less, and do the same maintenance like the 70, it will last the same time. the 70 takes 2-3 times the oil changes then the hilux same distance.
What about the longevity of your spine
@@Jesse-2531 it's not just the engine that is tougher
i think the HILUX beats the cruiser all round...the cruiser undergoes so much tuning while most hiluxes dont...the hilux is fast than the cruiser...
i just love the hilux
In the US I own neither.
But I understand your love of the 79 series.
All of my friends think I’m crazy because I’m building two overland vehicles slowly. I didn’t choose the usual vehicles either.
I am building a Ford excursion v10 and a v8 15 passenger van that I am converting to 4x4 also.
Good luck with your projects
Yah! Good luck
Back in 2017 when it was finally time to replace my Defender after 16 years of great service I was stuck between the troop carrier and the SR5 extra cab Hilux my head held sway after a lot of procrastination of how much work/money the 79 would take to make a comfortable touring car and the real possibility of me needing a second car for town.I do look forward to see the new six cylinder troopie but for three years the hilux has been unbreakable and done everything I want
Planning to buy and build my Hilux, as soon as it launches in India (Mid 2021)!
Hope to build it like yours.
Thanks for the detailed build videos.
Cheers
70 series, agree Ronny. 1 cup holder. Slower windows than a wet Sunday, 2013 Troopy! Shit 5th gear... NO VALUE FOR MONEY, your right. No cruise control, no auto option. BEAST
On the invoice from the Toyota dealer the 79 is detailed as “79 series Landcruiser Military “. That pretty much tells me it’s a basic, designed for purpose specialised vehicle. A golden opportunity for customising if you want but essentially a special interest vehicle. The Hilux is designed and produced on a grander scale to compete in a highly competitive sales market as a mass production vehicle for the tradie or otherwise - with kids etc. Ronny, you are on the money with your analysis, 79 series if that floats your boat, gets your rocks off etc, Hilux, or other dual cab if you want the off road tourer package without the quirks. Just make sure you have discussed how big your mortgage is going to be with your special other before chucking down your deposit on the 79... Entertaining vid Ronny cheers.
I agree- I have a ‘17 tacoma 6-spd manual but I’d have to imagine that I’d also choose the 79 series all day if it were available in the US. It seems like a more visceral and mechanical experience than having all of the creature comforts of the modern hilux. And for me personally, that’s why I have a manual transmission over an automatic but it doesn’t make sense to a lot of people. Great video!
Love my 79, always dreamt of having one and finally got mine in Jan-21. It is a beast, always puts a smile on my face when I hope in the driver's seat, feel like I can go anywhere. Oh and another positive for these is the ease of customising it, got plenty of room to work with :)
congratulations
The comparison between the 79 and Hilux is comparing a workhorse and a race horse. If I was towing a decent sized caravan I would choose the 79 the Hilux GCM etc is not as good. Also the 79 is heavy duty live axle vehicle strong can take the hard stuff and decent sized tray that is why farmers and miners love them. New 79 have improved the gearing for cruising which should give better fuel economy. I have previously owned a Hilux and a late model Ranger I liked both vehicles but purchased a 2014 GX 200 Landcruiser without DPF basic vehicle tough really enjoy driving it. I would go the same way as you the 79 sounds great, looks great and reliable and tough and you have customized it as required.
My stock 76 series Workmate (2011) got 13.5l/100km .... fully loaded for expedition, 3 people, 150l water, 300l fuel carried on the Canning Stock Route over about 11 days. 13 to 15l/100km elsewhere on a lap of Australia's big offroad tracks and highways (2016). I totally luv the Hilux too - but saw none on this track nor any other mid-size utes. I loved your video ! Regards, Shane (NZ)
The 79 series for me. I have a defender and as you said it is a choice that needs to be made with your heart.
good video.
I am wondering can it replace my td5
Agreed. If I had to chose I’d make your choice too.
But that said ... I don’t have your choice, I don’t have the money to make that choice. So I’ve made my choice and it is completely different from yours. I’m choosing a vehicle completely different from yours. My choice is the tiny Suzuki Jimny. I know it can’t be compared to yours, but it is the best one I can fit into my budget. I will learn to cope with its shortcomings, and I’m pretty sure I’ll cope with whatever it will throw at me.
My thanks for yet another honest video of yours, Ronny.
Jimny may be small, but driven well they can keep up with the big rigs in the rough stuff. Zooks are a bit of a cult car in their own right. They're just not so great at long touring trips.
Not sure how you'd measure it other than by experience, but you need a category for robustness - Not sure how well those dainty ball joints on the Hilux are going to hold up with a lot of off-road use. On a safari in the Serengeti I asked our guide/driver why they chose Land Cruisers. His reply was that "the other vehicles may ride better and use less fuel but they are too delicate for this work".
I think whilst the heart may say 79, The HiLux is probably the way to go between the two of them.
@Matt I agree, the new tritons are stepping up the game. Great for Value for money, If I were going for more luxury though, I would definitely choose a dmax also, they are looking better and better.
@Matt yvv
@@dankydarron6081 I v g g g
@@kb8329 gay
@@kb8329 did ford sort out their gearbox problems?
Got the Hilux, love it with my mods and it’s comfort well beyond the 79, but when you’re 4WD’ing through dunes and you have a 79 open up next to you, there is no denying you want to be behind the wheel of that any day of the week. I went the Hilux because I don’t have money for days to upgrade a 79, but if my pockets were dee enough to build a custom 79 yeah I’d be doing that for sure
It’s simple, the 79 has what one would call the “X factor”. If you have a love for this sensation, it will be the 79 all day long.
ever looked at the price of fixing the rear diff,,or changing the starter.??..rear diff 4" narrower.. no fkn good..
@@phantomwalker8251 79 all the way baby
@@phantomwalker8251 When you love a 79 nothing else matters
My old man just bought a 2022 79 series and By God it’s monstrous✊🏾🤝🏾
Holding out for this V6 GR Hilux I’ve been reading about 🤞🏻
I want my next Hilux to be Hybrid :)
@@2157AF i cant imagine doing a rivercrossing with a hybrid system on board
@@gullf1sk All-electric would be cool, no air intake at all!
@@lukeadv How do you recharge halfway across the Simpson (and the rest of the outback)?
@@garyking508 It wouldn't be the sort of car you'd take to the Simpson
I had a 79 , punished it hard fully GVM 3.9t loaded with tinny up top towing 2.1t offroad van for 5 trouble free years to the bucket list of Oz outback & Coastal locations. Now have a 2022 Lux with the usual mods. I love the Lux for all the reasons you mentioned. If , however, I was to repeat the previous 5year trip. It'd be my 79 series hands down because I'm not convinced ANY of the " modern" dual cabs could tolerate permanently loaded long term punishment as reliably. Cheers for the great comparo.
That’s was a great comparison mate. If money wasn’t an issue, I would go the Landcruiser. But it is a big issue for me and that’s why I drive a Triton lol. I think it’s the pick of the regular dual cabs.
Bang for buck, Triton is hard to beat and gets the job done well. Damn I'd love a 79 though!
@@daviddickinson936 yeah mate. Totally agree.
Triton is probably better on fuel than the hilux and 79?
@@JasonISF maybe in stock form. But I get about 12 LPH around town and have seen upto 19 LPH when towing a 2.2t caravan. Mines not too modified but it’s got a tray and canopy and is always loaded to near GVM. And I definitely don’t drive with fuel economy in mind.
@@JasonISF my MR Triton gets 7.9 as I pull into the driveway, but that's me driving home from work at midnight with no traffic. Not driving like an idiot, it'll stay around 8.5-9L/100km. It loves cold weather, fuel economy easily hangs around the 8's. Mid summer 37C weather and it goes into the 10L area. I'd love a 79 or TD42 GQ ute though
My dad had both 1997 Lc single cab (75 series with the 4.5 gasoline engine) and a 1998 Hilux double cab ( 2.7 ish I don’t remember the displacement. Also gasoline engine) the 75 was limited to do the farm work and around town errands and the Hilux for long distance travel as it was a bit more comfortable. If I had to choose it would be the 75 for no logical reason more than there’s something cool about the Land Cruiser that the Hilux doesn’t have and I don’t know what it is. It’s old, outdated, impractical (being a single cab) but it’s just cool I can not put into words.
Single cabs are practical but I agree with the rest
My heart won. I ordered a 79 🤣
i am so jealous ;) i only can afford and bay (import + mods fore registering makes the 79 a 100k USD truck;( ) the new hilux.
so my options are 150hp ore 207hp led ore no led
you will be totally happy with the new 79
Don't get a new landcruiser with the dpf. 2010-2016 where the best
I have a 2018, rugged x and have never looked back. 79s are awsome but no comparison when comfort and mod cons are added to the mix.
Great video !
Hi Ronny from the Adelaide crew , top vid love your honesty, I bought a 2020 French vanilla 79 & I’m slowly getting through all the mods myself , love it to pieces so very pleased with this grand addition to my young family, can’t wait to do some big laps,
Keep up the good work bye for now.
The ball cooler vent is vastly underrated.
Haha 😂 loved the ball cooler
😆
I would agree with your end opinion about these vehicles, the hilux had the edge on the 79 up the hill because of the auto and possibly better weight distribution. Ether way I would happily use both of these types of vehicles for overland travel. The hilux is definitely a bit more user friendly as a daily driver though both are toyotas with legendary reputations.
Your are honest and that's what we need. I like each one of them. However based on your review it is now easy to take the Hilux (daily driver with family and etc) I love the rugged looking 79. Also on the Hilux. Great looking vehicles.
Great video Ronny. I would take the 79 any day. Here in the Great White North we do not have such Beasts! Whereas Taco's are a dime a dozen. Cheers.
Taco's and Tundra are awesome trucks with great power and well build quality. Here in Latin American tropical mud Hilux is an excelent tool for work
@@edgardomunoz2688
Absolutely and could not agree more but in Canada we don't get the Landcruisers they have Down Under.
70 series dash is my all time favourite . Always wanted a cruiser but couldn't justify the price and daily running. Have had 2 older hiluxes then GU patrol. The GU for size and room with kids.
I have an older Hilux with a drop-side tray and that's what I would choose again, but......I love the sound of the V8.
Just slap a V8 in the hilux 😉
Good point - brain = Luxy heart = 79 :)
Just got mine (French vanilla 79 series , love it to bits so pleased with it .
I also have a glx -r triton dual cab, at 250,000 kms its had a hard life and its buggerd, I’m chasing reliability with this new 79 , I have done all the mods myself and have absolutely loved every minute of this new and exciting journey so have my kids ,wifey not so much as now the 79 has become my mistress including the large ongoing bank roll for all my associated upgrades .
Also I must say when she gets in it with the family she loves all the attention people give in regards to the build and it’s associated ruggedness & prestige that this vehicle commands.
I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have grown to love mine
As a Land Rover fan, I have a similar problem.
The Defender is/was an icon and if I had the money for a "weekend toy" I'd buy one in a heartbeat but I don't want to drive a barn on wheels every day so I spent my money on a Disco' instead.
..what?
Great comparison, choosing between the two I'd have to go HiLux with kids in the car need the added safety, 79 when it comes to safety is it's biggest drawback for me.
the auto in the luxy probably made a big difference and the luxy is a lot lighter and smaller tires makes the revs easy to keep up.
When deciding whether to go with the Heart or the Brain, choose the Groin.
I angle my Nissan Patrol's (GU) rightside air vent down to keep me cool down there.
As an American the 79 series is my dream truck and I have zero desire to own a Hilux despite not being able to buy either.
Hilux's are for those who can't afford a landcruiser
@@banana3955 is that what you take from this video? Or is that your expert opinion because you’ve had both
I've never modified a car as much as these two but that's a bit of a joke in australia.
Nice one Ronny, I left a while back as the material you produced started going off the boil. I'm back and loving it.
Perfect comparison. Something everybody has been waiting for.
The lighter weight of the lux got it up from the beach better. To me the fuel savings and environmental friendliness of the lux would be my choice, as well as the cheaper more daily driver experience.
Back in the 90’s i had a BJ73 built for offroad, that was one cool 4x4 to drive around in, still miss it after all those years
Can relate! I’ve had 79 series and Hilux and would go Cruiser every time. Currently running a TJ Wrangler (rock crawler) and PX2 Ranger and the Jeep gets the fun vote. Ranger is best daily driver all day long. By the way I’m also a Dahl and my older brother also thinks he’s a Viking. 😂
The mustang of 4WD behind the iconic troopy.
Yes, the troopy is the real legend.
@@GCTO239 👍
Currently driving a similar model Lux in fact it's a "Her-Lux" and it's her daily drive, we tow a van and even though I had a 79 company car which was tricked out pretty well, when push comes to shove, if we were to need to buy another vehicle it would be the Lux all the way. When value for money, comfort and the cost to upgrade either vehicle, the Lux starts a winner and just keeps winning, in my humble opinion. BUT! the 79 does stir the red blood but luxy stirs mine more. Great series of vids Ron, Thanks
Buying the right 4WD is always a comprimise, none are perfect for all applications. The 70 series were made for mining and cattle stations, where they are often used off road and bush bashing on occasion. Try using a Hilux or any other commercial 4WD for bush bashing. Hiluxes will do it (just ask any geologists who work in northern or central Australia) but the cost in maintenance can be extreme. Reliability and resale value is one of the positives of the 70 series but maintenance costs are not. One of our colleagues drove a crew cab for 20 km with the engine warning light on, costing the company $20k in fuel pump and injector replacement. All modern electronic injector systems are expensive to repair or replace, but the Landcruiser's are king of the bunch in this regard. That's why Ronnie recommends a pre filter to reduce the risk of water/dirt hitting the fuel pump. So what am I going to buy next? I have to do a bit of bush bashing in the NT and north QLD, so it will probably be a 70 series.
At this point i'm wondering why i like the 79 in the first place
If you want to sell it lmk
I’ve had both these for many miles your verdict is spot on the hilux is comfortable and quiet the cruiser is noisy but more fun in the bush I would say the same hilux with the brain and the cruiser for the heart.
The challenge on WA beach I think went to the HiLux because of the auto transmission
That's half the reason. The other half is less weight.
Why no auto option in 2021 for the cruisers?
Ronny i will go for the 79 Serious Land Cruiser all day. i purely love that machine
I like the fact you’ve not put a different Toyota steering wheel on your 70, I reckon that’s a shocking mod with the grey interior and black steering wheel!
i love the tray in the 79 series it looking amaizing
Just so you know. Land Rover Discovery 3&4 also has the crotch AC vent. 😂😂 I’ve been in 50+C in Sudan and my crotch was fresh! 👍
Are landys common in the Sudan? I'm half Sudanese and would love to rent a car and roadtrip it!
That’s not what she said
@@spinalundeadjay we were going London to Cape Town. So not a local vehicle. Did not see many out there.
Thats because they were all on tow trucks!
@@brettcampbell4364 Hahahaha
Love your channel man. I'm getting my 1st 4wd soon, and great people like you are helping me make the right decision. Cheers!
Deciding between the two - came to UA-cam for advice. You helped me - thank you!!
For the Hilux time would be needed to gauge reliability, strength, durability, maintenance and spares costs. Also would be interested to see a comparison of curb weights and GVMs.
The dune looked a lot more chopped up for the 79. But both vehicles are set up differently be cool to see a comparison with both utes as standard farm utes
The weight was the major difference between these cars in climbing up that dune. Best Regards from Belgium, David
Man I like your videos this is the 5th time am watching this, I pray to God that someday he will bless me with any of the above cars but I like the hilix
The sound of the Cruiser is epic! ♥️
That LC79 exhaust sound is just intoxicating!
I just went through all the comments and put it like down for every comment that was put on this great video Ronny keep up the great videos
Thanks, for practicality, I agree, Hilux.
Love the plate numbers on the two cars, Fenrir and Sleipnir straight from the Viking Sagas. I am a 2016 Hilux owner my self.... keep up the good work. :)
question for the community:
in central america where diesel is the equivalent of $6US a gallon
both the hilux and the 70 series are available
what's needed is a daily driver that can do all types of errands with lots of idling with AC blasting due to blazing heat and also occasional short road trips (under 3 hours each way)
might i add that the location is in the jungle with driving consisting of 70% paved roads, 20% dirt/mud/gravel roads, & 10% serious hills of remote rocky jungle roads
half the year there are heavy rains and flooding so wading through water will be common during those times.
there will be some towing of a light utility trailer but not more 15% of the time.
Priorities for the vehicle:
- reliability/safety
- fuel consumption
- offroad capability
- holding it's value
- comfort
- visual appeal & style (i believe the 6th gen hilux (pre-2004) was the last nice looking one, everything since then is hidious)
what can you all recommend based on that info. I won't be adding tons of weight or modifications to either vehicle as i plan to drive it bone stock until parts are needed then i will upgrade components.
I love the 70 series look and timeless design but there is a major price difference and efficiency is important as the fuel prices are sky high here. any input is appreciated, thank you.
My heart is with the 70. I give the ruggedness of them especially the steel dash models
but fore 20-30k you can brake and replace the plastic 10 times before its cost the same then the 70
Of all the mods on either truck, I most appreciate the Fenrir and Sleipnir plates.
I have a troopy 78 and I know what you mean...It's still pretty much the best car in the world...I mean...it is..
I love the 79 that truck is so amazing I would have it all day
it's a Ute 😉
@@LukaS-kw5ky No no no no that's a truck
I’ve been waiting for this one
They beach test was all about weight! The Lux weighs probably 1000kg less. Modern vehicles have old ones best at comfort for sure, but the simplicity and roughetness of a classic solid axle vehicle are hard to beat offroad and for the simply joy! Cheers from Germany!
79 no doubt i had one but now i just got a 200 and i still miss my 79....
Thanks for the insight. Me wishing we had either of those in the USA
So here's my verdict:
I owned a 2008 3.0D4d Hilux Double Cab (that's what we call them here is South Africa) 4X4 up until 2 months ago (13 years, that is). My wife swore I loved my Hilux more than her. I swopped it now for a 79 V8 Double Cab.
I absolutely love both! I wouldn't call one better that the other, but what I will say is this: I swopped my Hilux for a 79, but I will probably NEVER swop my 79 for a Hilux....
I very much believe that it makes sence owning both. Should have kept my Hilux too.
It's really the question. Are you an old school or new school guy?
Control arms vs panhard rod. Ifs or solid axles.
One's been around since the dawn of time, because of its simplicity, ruggedness and relative ease of maintenance.
But the other gives better handling an articulation.