Took a (civilian) position with a Sheriff’s office a few months ago & so far so good. Surprisingly decent mix of people our age & taking full advantage of the free gym during my breaks. Work for 8 years & I’ll be vested for my 2nd government pension. Total of 5 months from application to the interview & background investigation till my first day of work. Lovely people at the Sheriff’s & the deputies treat us just marvelously. We even get a free hot meal every night during the week. I’m so grateful to be working full time again after deciding to unretire.
Don't give up! At 59 I got a perm job in the DWP and am still working here. Lengthy application process I remember it well, go put on reserve list having gone through all the hoops etc. My first thought was that they thought I was to old however within a month got an email asking if I was interested in another role which would fit my previous exp and have never looked back. Feel very lucky to have got a job at 59. Just shows you what can happen.
I can recall when I was homeless and faced with many things in Life until $75,000 biweekly began rolling in and my Life went from A homeless nobody to a different person with good things to offer!!!!!!❤️❤️
I wish you well. I am 61, so a little older than you. I decided to stay retired after a fruitless job search a few years ago. I did apply for 'public sector' roles, but rather than be impressed by the great blue companies I had worked for, they seemed to discriminate against me because I had no public sector experience! I didn't ever think of trying HMRC, and it could be a very good idea. As I say I really hope it is successful. I am a bit rusty on all this now, but I would try and find out about their ways of doing things as part of the preparation for the interview. If you succeed, I may give HMRC a go, as my pension fund has been depleted by higher than expected inflation and lower than expected returns on my investments.
I've done a number of civil service job applications, the interesting thing is, your application gets a score 1 to 8 which you can view. 4 is the minimum to get an interview I was told. When you apply, make sure you read the person specification, you'll need that to make your personal statement. This is where most of your score is made up from.
As a 46 year old blue collar male, I am going to go through hell or high water to be boss of my owm business rather than be at the mercy of vindictive Barren Karen (with 6 cats) HR managers and / or DEI panels. Or indeed jumping through any hoops. I also have a security licence (SIA) which gives me an extra little oart time income and allows me to puck up temp jobs between roles
Very diverse environment so hope having listened to a few of your previous comments that you are positive about working with all types of people. Very good with supporting those with disabilities too.
Without public sector experience, it will be very difficult to get into government bodies. But the main point is that recruitment freeze has been imposed on support services like finance. Good luck.
Good luck with your application I'm few years younger than yourself. You can setup a noitiication alert where you will be notified by email of any vacancies as meet your search terms as soon as they are advertised. Use a word prcessor to copy and paste you persaonal statement that way you can use spell check, gramarcheck and the word count. Use the maximum number of words allowed . Some the pro's not mentioned the ones you mentioned in your video flexi time , and work arrangemenet uchas part time compressed as well full time. , 5 paid days of for volunteering, paid leave for & development, and access to employee assistance programme .
I've only managed to get 12 days of work in 8 months. Its worst recession I have faced since the last one. Recuiters are pigs. Ageism is awful in the UK, big problem. They would rather hire someone with no experience to pay them less rather than experience.
I used to work for a pharmaceutical firm, and life was good until I was made redundant several years ago. After three years of unemployment, I finally found a job at the local authority.
What I would say about the Public Sector in the UK is that the process is about as close as I think it's probably possible to get to removing bias in recruitment. I contract into the public sector and have on occasion applied for the odd permie role. BUT I've also regularly been asked to sit in on the interview/selection process too. Firstly the information the selection team get is anonymised. No info on name/sex/age/anything else is given to selectors. Obviously if you go for an interview you will have to show up, but there every interviewee is asked exactly the same set of questions and responses are noted. Presentations are frequently asked for and these are stored too. The candidate selection process scores applicants according to a set of criteria agreed in advance. Secondly all candidates, external and internal must go through the same process, no selecting of your protege simply because you know they are a good bloke. The point here is that if a candidate thinks they were a victim of bias they can challenge the selection. So if that happens the organisation must be able to give chapter and verse on the way the successful candidate was selected. The selection panel has to hand in their notes for storage too. They have to have a documented audit trail. Yes it's bureaucratic but it does seem to work IMO after watching multiple appointments made in the NHS over the last decade or so. If you don't get the job it won't be because you are too old. I speak as someone who just missed out on a senior (board level) role in the NHS only last week. At 65! The process is the same for all bands of jobs.
The contracting market is broken in financial services rates down by at least 25% because too many people are chasing too few jobs. It feels like a recession to me even after the GFC in 2008 this is the worst I have seen. Government is probably the way forward you never know there could be more contracting opportunities their which last more than 6 months.
I don't think you'll have much luck with a gov job,, your way too competent and able. I suppose if you go along with DEI as a cheerleader they might have you along in the role of "boxer" from animal farm.
I was late with a tax payment ... (HMRC's software is very flaky) and they referred my tax obligation to a private debt collector. I couldn't believe it. I went from owing the government for having the audacity to earn money, to owning a private company that employs thugs to kick down your door. What exactly do tax collectors do if they don't collect tax? The idea HMRC doesn't do its own collections and instead turns your debt over to some mates for private profit is absolutely disgusting. I have no idea how that can be legal.
I just love how people get sold on the pay differential between public and private. There is none. Average civil service salary is around 35k same as the private sector but when you throw in the pension and benefits plus adherence to contract hours the public sector wins. Avoid the private sector is my advise for average Joe Public. Have a decent work life balance, no stress, great leave, work from home and an outstanding pension when you retire. Plus stop believing what the media and unions tell you.
re: Oliver Cromwell - the impact of Cromwell’s actions in Ireland was devastating. His campaign left thousands of Irish civilians dead, and his policies led to mass dispossession of land. Many Irish were forced into exile, while others were sold into indentured servitude in the West Indies. His actions left a lasting legacy of bitterness in Ireland, and he is still remembered as a figure of hatred in Irish history.
£70K a year Job bracket is IMHO a very small pond! nothing really to do with the economy that they are few and far between. Good luck with your endeavours
Hi, I noticed the role you applied for is permanent. Would you consider applying for the role at the place where you work now? Assuming the company want to backfill the position.
I say that to graduates that want to work in the city. At the right time there's loads of grad jobs in banking, but then at the next recession they clear out loads above 40. I tell grads, DO NOT waste your time in the city, the skills are not transferable, you can't afford a house and you'll be in the sht in your 40s or 50s.
@@John-c4r1o I’d say that is true for most office based roles unless you own the business. A good trade and work for yourself in hindsight and you’ll never go hungry.
Good idea, above average pay for the role, now employ most of the population, great conditions and pensions yet the unions and press do a super job pushing the opposite narrative. I don’t think you have what they are looking for though if you catch my drift.
precisely its diversity for meeeeee, for every minority EXCEPT If your a low or middle class white man then its suddenly not NOT FOR THEEEEE TEEEEEEEEEEE HEEEEEEEE Its now an Orwellian joke
You said in your last video that there were five of you working and not enough work to go around. Well, if one person has handed in their notice then that gives you more work and why would you say you will help the company recruit another staff member! Your logic doesn't make any sense to me anyway!!
That sounds like a glib comment to a professional, but in reality it's not a bad option. There are no office politics, no equality and treating vulnerable customers fairly training. No tax to pay. It really isn't a bad option
I agree with you regarding winter. The roads are dangerous but regarding abusive customers, I’ve never had one in five years. When the dark nights come in October, it gets busy so what you do is work more hours when it’s busy to cover your costs in January
Depends what you classify as 'short of money' a couple of hundred thousand and you've been renting because you don't have a stable income as a contractor to borrow for a house.
I’m speaking from the heart. I’ve heard stories of white males being discriminated against as well. Sometimes companies are looking at ticking off that inclusion box.
D.E.I (“Diversity , Equity , Inclusion”) is now in full swing here in the U.K . I recently went for an interview with B & M for a job I was more than qualified for . As soon as I walked in and saw all the hijabs and dark skin of the fellow interviewees my heart sank . On leaving I was told that if I was successful I’d receive a phone call by the following Friday . Needless to say , no call came . Last week on perusing the local news website , I saw an article on the new stores opening day with an accompanying photo . If it wasn’t for two white faces , you’d think the new store was in Karachi . This is how the globalists are going to finally finish us off , by legally denying us employment . No job , no home , no family . Gen0cide by any other name .
@bob As a ‘dark skinned’ person myself, many times I was looked over for jobs and promotion especially in the 80s and 90s for no other reason I’m sure than how I looked. I didn’t complain though I still went to uni started at the bottom and accepted I’d just have to work twice as hard as my white peers. So I did and by 51 reached my goal of promotion as head of IT within a blue chip. So I find it amusing that white people who are generally always the first choice (if they have the qualifications) moan about diversity. Sorry but it’s not diversity it’s you if you’re not getting the jobs 🤷🏻♀️
Get rid of that horrible stubble for goodness sake! 😈 Four months out of work isn't that much. I was out of work for two years in the early '90s. Fortunately I was still living with my parents at the time. The main 'professional' grade in the Civil Service is grade 7 - that is equivalent to a middle manager level role. Salaries are quite a bit lower than the private sector, but instead of getting a paltry money purchase pension where the employer puts in 6-8%, in the Civil Service you get a defined benefit pension based on your career average salary, meaning that the for every year of employment you get 2.3% of salary as an 'earned' pension that will pay when you are at state retirement age. This is excellent if you join in mid-career, say aged 40, but at 55 you will not have enough time to earn a big pension unless you intend to work until state retirement age. Also, no annual bonuses are paid in the Civil Service, though you might get one if you are an exceptional performer.
No, diversity doesnt include age, it's just virtue signaling, their target demographic is a certain culture, note not cultures. There are many incommers which need the bar lowered to gain entry into the work force.
Took a (civilian) position with a Sheriff’s office a few months ago & so far so good. Surprisingly decent mix of people our age & taking full advantage of the free gym during my breaks. Work for 8 years & I’ll be vested for my 2nd government pension. Total of 5 months from application to the interview & background investigation till my first day of work. Lovely people at the Sheriff’s & the deputies treat us just marvelously. We even get a free hot meal every night during the week. I’m so grateful to be working full time again after deciding to unretire.
Don't give up! At 59 I got a perm job in the DWP and am still working here. Lengthy application process I remember it well, go put on reserve list having gone through all the hoops etc. My first thought was that they thought I was to old however within a month got an email asking if I was interested in another role which would fit my previous exp and have never looked back. Feel very lucky to have got a job at 59. Just shows you what can happen.
I can recall when I was homeless and faced with many things in Life until $75,000 biweekly began rolling in and my Life went from A homeless nobody to a different person with good things to offer!!!!!!❤️❤️
I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??
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I wish you well. I am 61, so a little older than you. I decided to stay retired after a fruitless job search a few years ago. I did apply for 'public sector' roles, but rather than be impressed by the great blue companies I had worked for, they seemed to discriminate against me because I had no public sector experience! I didn't ever think of trying HMRC, and it could be a very good idea. As I say I really hope it is successful. I am a bit rusty on all this now, but I would try and find out about their ways of doing things as part of the preparation for the interview. If you succeed, I may give HMRC a go, as my pension fund has been depleted by higher than expected inflation and lower than expected returns on my investments.
I'm 67, so a little older than you ..... 😂
@@69spook You've always been older than me!
I've done a number of civil service job applications, the interesting thing is, your application gets a score 1 to 8 which you can view. 4 is the minimum to get an interview I was told.
When you apply, make sure you read the person specification, you'll need that to make your personal statement. This is where most of your score is made up from.
I scored 96%+ percentile on a maths test. Still no interview
As a 46 year old blue collar male, I am going to go through hell or high water to be boss of my owm business rather than be at the mercy of vindictive Barren Karen (with 6 cats) HR managers and / or DEI panels. Or indeed jumping through any hoops.
I also have a security licence (SIA) which gives me an extra little oart time income and allows me to puck up temp jobs between roles
You will get through this soon… I can feel it 😏🙌🏽💯💪🏽
Very diverse environment so hope having listened to a few of your previous comments that you are positive about working with all types of people. Very good with supporting those with disabilities too.
Except for White Heterosexual Male… I have never seen one of them in the public sector!
Without public sector experience, it will be very difficult to get into government bodies. But the main point is that recruitment freeze has been imposed on support services like finance. Good luck.
Good luck with your application I'm few years younger than yourself. You can setup a noitiication alert where you will be notified by email of any vacancies as meet your search terms as soon as they are advertised. Use a word prcessor to copy and paste you persaonal statement that way you can use spell check, gramarcheck and the word count. Use the maximum number of words allowed . Some the pro's not mentioned the ones you mentioned in your video flexi time , and work arrangemenet uchas part time compressed as well full time. , 5 paid days of for volunteering, paid leave for & development, and access to employee assistance programme .
I've only managed to get 12 days of work in 8 months. Its worst recession I have faced since the last one. Recuiters are pigs. Ageism is awful in the UK, big problem. They would rather hire someone with no experience to pay them less rather than experience.
I used to work for a pharmaceutical firm, and life was good until I was made redundant several years ago. After three years of unemployment, I finally found a job at the local authority.
What I would say about the Public Sector in the UK is that the process is about as close as I think it's probably possible to get to removing bias in recruitment. I contract into the public sector and have on occasion applied for the odd permie role. BUT I've also regularly been asked to sit in on the interview/selection process too.
Firstly the information the selection team get is anonymised. No info on name/sex/age/anything else is given to selectors. Obviously if you go for an interview you will have to show up, but there every interviewee is asked exactly the same set of questions and responses are noted. Presentations are frequently asked for and these are stored too. The candidate selection process scores applicants according to a set of criteria agreed in advance.
Secondly all candidates, external and internal must go through the same process, no selecting of your protege simply because you know they are a good bloke.
The point here is that if a candidate thinks they were a victim of bias they can challenge the selection. So if that happens the organisation must be able to give chapter and verse on the way the successful candidate was selected. The selection panel has to hand in their notes for storage too. They have to have a documented audit trail. Yes it's bureaucratic but it does seem to work IMO after watching multiple appointments made in the NHS over the last decade or so.
If you don't get the job it won't be because you are too old. I speak as someone who just missed out on a senior (board level) role in the NHS only last week. At 65! The process is the same for all bands of jobs.
your applying for 50-60 grand a year that's great most people will never even be able to apply for these type of jobs
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Good luck 👍
The contracting market is broken in financial services rates down by at least 25% because too many people are chasing too few jobs. It feels like a recession to me even after the GFC in 2008 this is the worst I have seen. Government is probably the way forward you never know there could be more contracting opportunities their which last more than 6 months.
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All the best, good luck!
I don't think you'll have much luck with a gov job,, your way too competent and able. I suppose if you go along with DEI as a cheerleader they might have you along in the role of "boxer" from animal farm.
Very best wishes for your job application 👍
Well done, very brave. Xx
Wish you the best of luck, bud.
I was late with a tax payment ... (HMRC's software is very flaky) and they referred my tax obligation to a private debt collector. I couldn't believe it. I went from owing the government for having the audacity to earn money, to owning a private company that employs thugs to kick down your door. What exactly do tax collectors do if they don't collect tax? The idea HMRC doesn't do its own collections and instead turns your debt over to some mates for private profit is absolutely disgusting. I have no idea how that can be legal.
Have no idea how someone would even consider applying for a job with them either. Awful.
I just love how people get sold on the pay differential between public and private. There is none. Average civil service salary is around 35k same as the private sector but when you throw in the pension and benefits plus adherence to contract hours the public sector wins. Avoid the private sector is my advise for average Joe Public. Have a decent work life balance, no stress, great leave, work from home and an outstanding pension when you retire. Plus stop believing what the media and unions tell you.
Government used to be nice now, were understaffed under resourced and facing an increasing abusive public
re: Oliver Cromwell - the impact of Cromwell’s actions in Ireland was devastating. His campaign left thousands of Irish civilians dead, and his policies led to mass dispossession of land. Many Irish were forced into exile, while others were sold into indentured servitude in the West Indies. His actions left a lasting legacy of bitterness in Ireland, and he is still remembered as a figure of hatred in Irish history.
£70K a year Job bracket is IMHO a very small pond! nothing really to do with the economy that they are few and far between. Good luck with your endeavours
are you talking career experience at 55, its just about getting a job mate and keeping your head down till you retire now
Hi, I noticed the role you applied for is permanent. Would you consider applying for the role at the place where you work now? Assuming the company want to backfill the position.
Is it the private health insurance premiums when you get older that the private sector companies don’t want to pay?
When I was 25 I turned to my colleague who was retiring at 65 and I said look around you nobody's over 50
I say that to graduates that want to work in the city. At the right time there's loads of grad jobs in banking, but then at the next recession they clear out loads above 40. I tell grads, DO NOT waste your time in the city, the skills are not transferable, you can't afford a house and you'll be in the sht in your 40s or 50s.
@@John-c4r1oSame with career armed service personnel. Finish at 42 having to start a new career.
@@John-c4r1o I’d say that is true for most office based roles unless you own the business. A good trade and work for yourself in hindsight and you’ll never go hungry.
DWP Restart cost £Billions success 7%
2.9Bn to be precise.
Good idea, above average pay for the role, now employ most of the population, great conditions and pensions yet the unions and press do a super job pushing the opposite narrative. I don’t think you have what they are looking for though if you catch my drift.
precisely its diversity for meeeeee, for every minority
EXCEPT
If your a low or middle class white man then its suddenly not NOT FOR THEEEEE
TEEEEEEEEEEE
HEEEEEEEE
Its now an Orwellian joke
You said in your last video that there were five of you working and not enough work to go around. Well, if one person has handed in their notice then that gives you more work and why would you say you will help the company recruit another staff member! Your logic doesn't make any sense to me anyway!!
Yes, it doesn't to me either to be honest.
precisely BECOME THE PERMANENT MEMBER OF STAFF TO REPLACE THEM, or at least ask them whether you can fill the role internally.
You should apply for Uber eats, Just eat and Deliveroo if you can drive. It’s guaranteed work
That sounds like a glib comment to a professional, but in reality it's not a bad option. There are no office politics, no equality and treating vulnerable customers fairly training. No tax to pay. It really isn't a bad option
ALL-WINTER , DANGEROUS ROADS , STRESSFUL and SOMETIMES SCARY THREATENING CUSTOMERS
@@thomascrichton5007 UBER taxis maybe but UBER eats should be ok
I agree with you regarding winter. The roads are dangerous but regarding abusive customers, I’ve never had one in five years. When the dark nights come in October, it gets busy so what you do is work more hours when it’s busy to cover your costs in January
@@reggiekray723no tax to pay? So the pay is poor then if you’re not earning enough to pay tax?
You can't be short of money if you've worked as an accountant for the last 30 odd years.
Maybe something happened during his career. He should otherwise have enough to live an average life.
Now looking for jobs circa £65k per annum.
Depends what you classify as 'short of money' a couple of hundred thousand and you've been renting because you don't have a stable income as a contractor to borrow for a house.
It all depends doesn't it? What level of seniority he had etc.
Put on lipstick and wear a dress to the interview. Guaranteed to get the job.
You’re so bitter bless your little heart 😂
I’m speaking from the heart. I’ve heard stories of white males being discriminated against as well. Sometimes companies are looking at ticking off that inclusion box.
I have applied for CS jobs with no joy. It has all been rejections. 😢
Never quit… I applied for over 650+ until I got mine. 😮💨💪🏽💯
Give an example point to every single spec point listed. Short listing is scored.
Are they still handing out final salary pensions for people joining today? I know it would be great for you but the country can't afford this.
Joker, cant afford....only because the Government income is being wasted!
It's career average pension now rather than final salary. Not as good, but not too bad if you only have 10 years to go to retirement
*His Majesty, not her majesty.
*parasites
@@EmpireOfTheBarnacle Totally agree! Despise the lot of them.
D.E.I (“Diversity , Equity , Inclusion”) is now in full swing here in the U.K . I recently went for an interview with B & M for a job I was more than qualified for . As soon as I walked in and saw all the hijabs and dark skin of the fellow interviewees my heart sank . On leaving I was told that if I was successful I’d receive a phone call by the following Friday . Needless to say , no call came . Last week on perusing the local news website , I saw an article on the new stores opening day with an accompanying photo . If it wasn’t for two white faces , you’d think the new store was in Karachi . This is how the globalists are going to finally finish us off , by legally denying us employment . No job , no home , no family . Gen0cide by any other name .
Where abouts in the country are you applying may I ask, Bob?
@bob As a ‘dark skinned’ person myself, many times I was looked over for jobs and promotion especially in the 80s and 90s for no other reason I’m sure than how I looked. I didn’t complain though I still went to uni started at the bottom and accepted I’d just have to work twice as hard as my white peers. So I did and by 51 reached my goal of promotion as head of IT within a blue chip. So I find it amusing that white people who are generally always the first choice (if they have the qualifications) moan about diversity. Sorry but it’s not diversity it’s you if you’re not getting the jobs 🤷🏻♀️
Get rid of that horrible stubble for goodness sake! 😈 Four months out of work isn't that much. I was out of work for two years in the early '90s. Fortunately I was still living with my parents at the time. The main 'professional' grade in the Civil Service is grade 7 - that is equivalent to a middle manager level role. Salaries are quite a bit lower than the private sector, but instead of getting a paltry money purchase pension where the employer puts in 6-8%, in the Civil Service you get a defined benefit pension based on your career average salary, meaning that the for every year of employment you get 2.3% of salary as an 'earned' pension that will pay when you are at state retirement age. This is excellent if you join in mid-career, say aged 40, but at 55 you will not have enough time to earn a big pension unless you intend to work until state retirement age. Also, no annual bonuses are paid in the Civil Service, though you might get one if you are an exceptional performer.
How much you guys are paid?
Oliver Cromwell's New Model Army treated Irish civilians better than the IRA treated the English.
No, diversity doesnt include age, it's just virtue signaling, their target demographic is a certain culture, note not cultures. There are many incommers which need the bar lowered to gain entry into the work force.
You want to be indoctrinated?