I agree they should have removed Stepin or had him killed while raging against Logain. There are so many better ways they could have explained the warder bond. I think it could have been explained more fully with little snippets over multiple seasons. The mystery of who is the dragon though… well my friends and family that never read the books loved it. I do think it did a good job of keeping interest of nonreaders. I love the idea of Logain as the main antagonist! I’ve thought of so many little changes that would have improved the season, but that never crossed my mind! Looking forward to your next video!
I totally agree! It was good visual storytelling but Moiraine and Lan's relationship wasn't really tested this season. I think the exposition about the bond shouldn't have been a priority for the first series. I'm glad your friends and family enjoyed the show. I know a few non-book readers who had a fun time watching it also, and it's great to have so many new members join the community. Next video coming soon!
You might enjoy the fan edit cut I did, where Stepin goes on a berserk rage when Karene gets killed and suicides himself by attacking Logain in the cave. Here's a clip of that battle: ua-cam.com/video/d__M5ha2x-o/v-deo.html
Excellent analysis! I don’t disagree with any of your suggestions on what would have made S1 better. I hope Rafe, Amazon and the writers are paying attention! Please make S2 as great as I can be!
Thank you! Got everything crossed for Season 2. The Eye of The World is probably the hardest book to adapt. There's so much great material in the next few books... Aiel, Seanchan, White Tower coup... It'd be hard for those storylines not to be epic
Watching this video i can agree mostly with the changes, but really yes the book does make us assume rand in the dragon reborn and there are enough hints, but as ba'alzamon is not sure which of the 3 is the dragon i did feel the mystery of which is could have been used to more effect, keeping the dagger story arc similar, more focus on the wolf brother, and letting us know the fever dream would have worked. put rand and mat in the store room with the woman and have the lightning hit leavening us to think it has to be one of them, then we see perrin wolf out and go full blood lust destroying two white cloaks ad wolves race in killing others. Now we as viewers are like is it him?
Your note that Tam's fever ramblings should have been mentioned before 107 made me realize, they only needed part of the ramblings or a single line of dialog referencing the ramblings after the fact to make their point! If he, say, only mentioned Dragonmount/"a snow-capped mountain" but not a baby, that could be hint enough when combined with when Rand recognizes Dragonmount in 105.
I agree. The ramblings should have been far from coherent when we first hear them. Just a small hint so the audience can put both pieces together at the end, instead of them being given both pieces at the same time!
@@ElliotEdits he didn't even need to go all the way to reveal Rand's adoption, just "snow...mountain...died in childbirth" or some such, enough for us to think ooh interesting backstory without specifically tying it to Rand. Maybe even leads to speculation that Tam found the Dragon during some war long ago. Then the reveal in 107 would be "oh shit, that was Rand!".
I will be interested to see what set up from season one carries over to season two, specifically how the Stepin storyline informs the new Moiraine/Lan plot line for season two.
@@ElliotEdits for all of the differences I was still O.K. with it but Barney Harris leaving the show (under mysterious circumstances) and the way that they handled the last 2 episodes was awful, in my opinion. They should've delayed the premier in order to fix it and not blame the pandemic on how bad they ended the season.
@@myrdraal2001 those trollocs at the end were unforgivably bad in terms of CGI, but also having a huge army of them destroyed so easily so early on, ruins any potential threat they might pose for later seasons.
@@ElliotEdits I really hate they took that away from Rand. He really needed something to show the power he has AND some character development other than the YA vibes, but instead he was left with nothing, just like Perrin and Mat were. I get Rafe is a fan of the women, but the show isn't about Moraine, Nynaeve and Egwene being great. It's the story of the Dragon Reborn and how he overcomes much with the help of his friends.
@@angelavm84 I think you'll really enjoy part 2 😅 I agree, you have to give your main protagonist the focus, and Moiraine, Nynaeve, and Egwene have so many badass moments later in the series!
1:00 This is more than a day late and a dollar short but they could have made 8 episodes work. I remember watching the modern update of Sherlock Holmes as well as some K dramas. I remember Sherlock being only 3 episodes a season but those 3 episodes had a run time of 90 minutes. some K-dramas were the same with episodes as short as 50 minutes to as long as an hour and twenty. The show runners were not limited to a 45-50 minute run time. That was a limitation they placed on themselves since they still think in network TV terms. They could have made each episode it's own movie ala "LOTHR" style with each episode as short as an hour or as long as 90 minutes or maybe a bit more. Keeping with Amazons penchant of releasing an episode a week with the exception of the premier in which they drop 3 had the series been good and an actual faithful adaptation they could have successfully done the first novel in full with possibly the last 1 or 2 episodes being part of book 2 or featured two episodes of a flash back that consisted of a new spring. Of course this is only possible if they had a capable showrunner and writing staff which the Wheel of time clearly didn't. I also think you're far too apologetic with regards to this "Show". It was poorly written and in some places downright offensive with regards to its misandry and the term "adaptation." This is not an adaptation but rather a show based on the Wheel of Time, which is what they should have said rather than misrepresent what it in fact is.
I think the show runners were likely limited to a run time per episode. It may have been more flexible than broadcast TV, but budgets and filming schedules would have put constraint on how long scripts could be. I agree though, that time could have been better utilized.
Saying there couldn’t be more episodes mistakes time restraints for budget restraints. Adding in big battles, new locations or CGI might be too hard but you could have added 5 minutes of dialogue in each episode and have it fall under ‘creative decisions’. Like the rest of your changes.
Thank you. With those extra five minutes I'd had added Elyas and Mordeth... Which I guess means paying more actors 😅 Being a showrunner is a balancing act
Most of these suggestions I wildly disagree with. Having the first episode be almost entirely devoid of context with just stuff being vaguely hinted at =a recipe for new audiences being bored and confused. Having the characters be 'young and innocent' teenagers would just make the entire thing feel like a CW show. Characters like Mat going from a bratty teenager giggling about badgers, to a general leading armies in like a year was unrealistic anyway, frankly. The characterization of them in Book 1 doesn't really match how they are in most of the series. Plenty of new viewers also *did* solve that it was Rand, so it wasn't that vague. Having it be any more obvious would have taken away any tension there was in the season, because audiences would just be waiting around for him to catch up to what they already new. Not everything needs to be a 'mystery' for viewers to solve anyway... It was more satisfying watching Rand deal with coming to terms with it, than having the answer spoon-fed to us.
Fair comments. I have a mix of non-book reader friends, some who enjoyed it, some who couldn't get passed episode 5. I think the creative team deffinitely had the right ideas in mind when constructing the story.
I like the idea Logain being main antagonist because it not only allows more human and down to earth conflict but also it opens up potential for redemption arc for Logain and that would have been so satisfying
Totally agree! Humans Vs humans is a lot more interesting than humans Vs nameless monsters. Thank you for your comment. It's made me really excited to release part 2. I think you'll like it!
Bravo. 1) I agree with almost everything you said here. 2) Thank you for giving your input in respectful fashion. 3) I still liked season 1, but it could have been so much better. 4) Here’s hoping they learned some things about what works and what doesn’t as they write subsequent seasons. 5) The opening scene with Moiraine’s monologue was added later. I wonder if Amazon corporates demanded something like this to minimize confusion. Alternatively, maybe they decided to (inadequately) mimic the Galadriel narration at the opening of The Fellowship of the Ring (which was done masterfully).
Thank you! I didn't actually know that the monologue was added on, but it doesn't surprise me. Studios can be too scared of creating intrigue and make things overly obvious - like when they forced Ridley Scott to include a voice over in Blade Runner.
For a bit of context and interesting insight here: I cut the monolog out of the fan edit and opened the film with the Blood Snow instead. A work colleague (with zero prior book or series knowledge) wrote me this verbatim after watching the first hour: "It was great, definitely has me hooked! I didn’t get the plot completely in terms of the objective of the dark, or why she was after the 4 of them. So my brother showed me this intro bit that was Rosamund Pike talking about how men destroyed everything and the Sidai were the ones left to find the child. But once I saw that, I followed the story much better" I think Amazon was right to insist on an added scene upfront to create clarity, but I think the showrunners were hamstrung having already shot the other scenes and quickly roughed out an exposition dump. It would have been more natural if planned upfront like Elliott's proposed opener (or fuck it, just give us Dragonmount and play the opening like the books).
Quick nit-pick: there's a typo in your script. "Would you rather the White Cloaks come and pus and and the whole village ..." I think you meant "put" there. That aside ... great scene idea!
I swear you saw my note! Logain should have been set up as the real DR only to fall in episode 7 or 8 as Rand starts channeling. That would give us a way to show AS scheming and politics. Throw in a few epic battles as the Lord Dragon (Logain) conquer nations. All the audience needed know is that the EF5 are special.
I've never heard of WOT , and this tv show got me addicted to that universe.... So idk why you would rewrite that, book fanatics always spread free hate for the tv shows, they can stay with the books all they want.
I'm really glad the TV show got you hooked on WoT! Have you read any of the books since watching? I did enjoy the TV show, just been imagining my own adaptation since I read the books and wanted to share.
Great ideas! I wish it would have gone a little more like that. I did love episodes 1 to 4 (minus the wife and dragon mystery), but after that... still have a little hope for S2, but for now, I'll clutch the books tight.;-)
@@ElliotEdits yup. I.m.o. the first half of the season was the strongest, and the second half treaded too much water before rushing the finale in an unsatisfying way. A more even build up of the season "threat" would have been that much more satisfying.
Curious about one adaptation choice that you haven't covered, and I think with you writing an alternative story is an interesting thought exercise: what do you think of the choice to go to Tar Valon instead of Caemlyn? Would you have done it differently?
I agree with all of your points except maybe the Egwene/Rand relationship. I think that was done quite well and I have a video coming out discussing that. However, I absolutely agree with all of your other ideas and I think making Logain the main villain of S1 would've been SO. MUCH. BETTER.
I'm really excited to release part 2! Been thinking about how to make Logain the main villain for a while. Excited for your video on Rand and Egwene too (loved the ways one) I think I could have got on board with their relationship if it had led anywhere but that weird love triangle. That scene kinda kills me a little every time I rewatch.
Lauren (and Elliott!), would be super curious to hear your take on this arc once you watch the fan edit. I cut out a lot of the arc, especially the beats that are repeated. I feel that it still holds together very well - which is at least a proof of concept that with some writing and shooting changes to the original script you could have delivered a clean arc for the relationship in less beats (hence time) and made it feel more impactful. Lauren, will look out with keen eyes for your video! Love your deep dives.
Thanks for this in depth video! I had a similar thought process to yours when coming up with my fan edit. In some cases I was able to "rewrite" scenes in the edit, in other scenes it was not possible. I'll comment here as I go along: 4:22 fully agreed. I tried a cut in my fan edit that snipped this dialog out, however the rest of the season keeps referencing back to the fact that the EF5 knows it's one of them, so it was not possible to extract without butchering a major through-line in the show 6:03 Agreed. I cut out significant chunks of the Rand-Egewene arc and it hardly impacts the resolution of their storyline 7:08 I cut the Logain army battle in such a way that it focuses on Stepin's berserk rage when Karene dies, and kills him in the cave assault. No need to further exposit the Warder bond, the explanation that's left in the fan edit conveys the gist of it (although I am currently tinkering with a v2 that gives it a bit more breathing room) 7:56 without being able to create new scenes, I cut out a lot of the red herrings and the scenes that focus so heavily on the DR mystery. It is certainly present in the fan edit, but it isn't the central narrative that the film is structured around. Also made several tweaks to how the information is revealed so that Rand's "outing" as the DR feels more natural and earned. 9:32 You should check out The Dusty Wheel's fan edit clips of their proposed season cold open - they position Logain front and center as a Dragon candidate. It doesn't go as far as your rewrite (looking forward to the next episode!) but it's compelling. I'm tinkering further with my fan edit film and will probably think of doing something similar to position Logain as an antagonist for the first part of the film when I finish v2.
Cheers dude! Excited to see your second version of the re-edit. I'll deffinitely check out that episode of The Dusty Wheel! Thanks for the reccomendation. (totally agree Stepin dying during the battle would have got the exposition across and saved some episode time for our main characters)
I've been seeing quite a lot of love for their relationship. I might be on my own, but I preferred the naivety in the book version. Admittedly, if it hadn't ended in a left-field love triangle, the show version could have convinced me.
Season 1 was definitely hit and miss. I'd argue though that Eye of the World will always be the hardest book to adapt, and I've got my fingers crossed for season 2 to hit the ground running.
I agree they should have removed Stepin or had him killed while raging against Logain. There are so many better ways they could have explained the warder bond. I think it could have been explained more fully with little snippets over multiple seasons. The mystery of who is the dragon though… well my friends and family that never read the books loved it. I do think it did a good job of keeping interest of nonreaders. I love the idea of Logain as the main antagonist! I’ve thought of so many little changes that would have improved the season, but that never crossed my mind! Looking forward to your next video!
I totally agree! It was good visual storytelling but Moiraine and Lan's relationship wasn't really tested this season. I think the exposition about the bond shouldn't have been a priority for the first series.
I'm glad your friends and family enjoyed the show. I know a few non-book readers who had a fun time watching it also, and it's great to have so many new members join the community.
Next video coming soon!
You might enjoy the fan edit cut I did, where Stepin goes on a berserk rage when Karene gets killed and suicides himself by attacking Logain in the cave. Here's a clip of that battle:
ua-cam.com/video/d__M5ha2x-o/v-deo.html
Oh and spot on about Perrin being married! Made ZERO sense and added absolutely nothing to his arc SMH
Agreed!
Excellent analysis! I don’t disagree with any of your suggestions on what would have made S1 better. I hope Rafe, Amazon and the writers are paying attention! Please make S2 as great as I can be!
Thank you! Got everything crossed for Season 2. The Eye of The World is probably the hardest book to adapt. There's so much great material in the next few books... Aiel, Seanchan, White Tower coup... It'd be hard for those storylines not to be epic
Hense. Me too. I only hope season 2 saves it. When show runner said I'm doing my story I'm like no I want the story I love
Season 2 will be key to the show getting to the end I reckon
I like where you’re going with this!
Thank you! Part 2 is mostly edited. Should be coming out next week. Just in time for WoTCon!
Watching this video i can agree mostly with the changes, but really yes the book does make us assume rand in the dragon reborn and there are enough hints, but as ba'alzamon is not sure which of the 3 is the dragon i did feel the mystery of which is could have been used to more effect, keeping the dagger story arc similar, more focus on the wolf brother, and letting us know the fever dream would have worked. put rand and mat in the store room with the woman and have the lightning hit leavening us to think it has to be one of them, then we see perrin wolf out and go full blood lust destroying two white cloaks ad wolves race in killing others. Now we as viewers are like is it him?
Definitely think we should have seen Perrin fully wolf out. Really important for his character. Feel like his arc never kicked off.
Your note that Tam's fever ramblings should have been mentioned before 107 made me realize, they only needed part of the ramblings or a single line of dialog referencing the ramblings after the fact to make their point!
If he, say, only mentioned Dragonmount/"a snow-capped mountain" but not a baby, that could be hint enough when combined with when Rand recognizes Dragonmount in 105.
I agree. The ramblings should have been far from coherent when we first hear them. Just a small hint so the audience can put both pieces together at the end, instead of them being given both pieces at the same time!
@@ElliotEdits he didn't even need to go all the way to reveal Rand's adoption, just "snow...mountain...died in childbirth" or some such, enough for us to think ooh interesting backstory without specifically tying it to Rand. Maybe even leads to speculation that Tam found the Dragon during some war long ago. Then the reveal in 107 would be "oh shit, that was Rand!".
I will be interested to see what set up from season one carries over to season two, specifically how the Stepin storyline informs the new Moiraine/Lan plot line for season two.
Do you think the bond is affected by Moiraine being shielded from the one power?
I'm honestly more impressed with your adaptation than the "inspired by" show that was dumped on us.
Thank you. I don't think the show was without merits, but it is always fun to reimagine it
@@ElliotEdits for all of the differences I was still O.K. with it but Barney Harris leaving the show (under mysterious circumstances) and the way that they handled the last 2 episodes was awful, in my opinion. They should've delayed the premier in order to fix it and not blame the pandemic on how bad they ended the season.
@@myrdraal2001 those trollocs at the end were unforgivably bad in terms of CGI, but also having a huge army of them destroyed so easily so early on, ruins any potential threat they might pose for later seasons.
@@ElliotEdits I really hate they took that away from Rand. He really needed something to show the power he has AND some character development other than the YA vibes, but instead he was left with nothing, just like Perrin and Mat were. I get Rafe is a fan of the women, but the show isn't about Moraine, Nynaeve and Egwene being great. It's the story of the Dragon Reborn and how he overcomes much with the help of his friends.
@@angelavm84 I think you'll really enjoy part 2 😅 I agree, you have to give your main protagonist the focus, and Moiraine, Nynaeve, and Egwene have so many badass moments later in the series!
1:00 This is more than a day late and a dollar short but they could have made 8 episodes work. I remember watching the modern update of Sherlock Holmes as well as some K dramas. I remember Sherlock being only 3 episodes a season but those 3 episodes had a run time of 90 minutes. some K-dramas were the same with episodes as short as 50 minutes to as long as an hour and twenty. The show runners were not limited to a 45-50 minute run time. That was a limitation they placed on themselves since they still think in network TV terms. They could have made each episode it's own movie ala "LOTHR" style with each episode as short as an hour or as long as 90 minutes or maybe a bit more. Keeping with Amazons penchant of releasing an episode a week with the exception of the premier in which they drop 3 had the series been good and an actual faithful adaptation they could have successfully done the first novel in full with possibly the last 1 or 2 episodes being part of book 2 or featured two episodes of a flash back that consisted of a new spring. Of course this is only possible if they had a capable showrunner and writing staff which the Wheel of time clearly didn't.
I also think you're far too apologetic with regards to this "Show". It was poorly written and in some places downright offensive with regards to its misandry and the term "adaptation." This is not an adaptation but rather a show based on the Wheel of Time, which is what they should have said rather than misrepresent what it in fact is.
I think the show runners were likely limited to a run time per episode. It may have been more flexible than broadcast TV, but budgets and filming schedules would have put constraint on how long scripts could be. I agree though, that time could have been better utilized.
If I was a producer, I would hate the book community so badly, always finding little things to cry on, instead of enjoying this awesome universe.
I'll always love the books, but personally, if the show was an exact replica, I'd have been so bored watching
@@ElliotEdits exactly, people just like to grab something to whine about
Saying there couldn’t be more episodes mistakes time restraints for budget restraints. Adding in big battles, new locations or CGI might be too hard but you could have added 5 minutes of dialogue in each episode and have it fall under ‘creative decisions’.
Like the rest of your changes.
Thank you. With those extra five minutes I'd had added Elyas and Mordeth... Which I guess means paying more actors 😅 Being a showrunner is a balancing act
Most of these suggestions I wildly disagree with. Having the first episode be almost entirely devoid of context with just stuff being vaguely hinted at =a recipe for new audiences being bored and confused.
Having the characters be 'young and innocent' teenagers would just make the entire thing feel like a CW show. Characters like Mat going from a bratty teenager giggling about badgers, to a general leading armies in like a year was unrealistic anyway, frankly. The characterization of them in Book 1 doesn't really match how they are in most of the series.
Plenty of new viewers also *did* solve that it was Rand, so it wasn't that vague. Having it be any more obvious would have taken away any tension there was in the season, because audiences would just be waiting around for him to catch up to what they already new. Not everything needs to be a 'mystery' for viewers to solve anyway... It was more satisfying watching Rand deal with coming to terms with it, than having the answer spoon-fed to us.
Fair comments. I have a mix of non-book reader friends, some who enjoyed it, some who couldn't get passed episode 5. I think the creative team deffinitely had the right ideas in mind when constructing the story.
I like the idea Logain being main antagonist because it not only allows more human and down to earth conflict but also it opens up potential for redemption arc for Logain and that would have been so satisfying
Totally agree! Humans Vs humans is a lot more interesting than humans Vs nameless monsters.
Thank you for your comment. It's made me really excited to release part 2. I think you'll like it!
Bravo. 1) I agree with almost everything you said here. 2) Thank you for giving your input in respectful fashion. 3) I still liked season 1, but it could have been so much better. 4) Here’s hoping they learned some things about what works and what doesn’t as they write subsequent seasons. 5) The opening scene with Moiraine’s monologue was added later. I wonder if Amazon corporates demanded something like this to minimize confusion. Alternatively, maybe they decided to (inadequately) mimic the Galadriel narration at the opening of The Fellowship of the Ring (which was done masterfully).
Thank you! I didn't actually know that the monologue was added on, but it doesn't surprise me. Studios can be too scared of creating intrigue and make things overly obvious - like when they forced Ridley Scott to include a voice over in Blade Runner.
For a bit of context and interesting insight here: I cut the monolog out of the fan edit and opened the film with the Blood Snow instead. A work colleague (with zero prior book or series knowledge) wrote me this verbatim after watching the first hour:
"It was great, definitely has me hooked!
I didn’t get the plot completely in terms of the objective of the dark, or why she was after the 4 of them. So my brother showed me this intro bit that was Rosamund Pike talking about how men destroyed everything and the Sidai were the ones left to find the child. But once I saw that, I followed the story much better"
I think Amazon was right to insist on an added scene upfront to create clarity, but I think the showrunners were hamstrung having already shot the other scenes and quickly roughed out an exposition dump. It would have been more natural if planned upfront like Elliott's proposed opener (or fuck it, just give us Dragonmount and play the opening like the books).
Quick nit-pick: there's a typo in your script. "Would you rather the White Cloaks come and pus and and the whole village ..." I think you meant "put" there. That aside ... great scene idea!
Thank you! Damn dyslexic brain. If I was an actual screenwriter, table readings would be like spelling lessons
I mean, the Whitecloaks do puss about and achieve largely f**k all most of the time 😂
I swear you saw my note!
Logain should have been set up as the real DR only to fall in episode 7 or 8 as Rand starts channeling. That would give us a way to show AS scheming and politics. Throw in a few epic battles as the Lord Dragon (Logain) conquer nations. All the audience needed know is that the EF5 are special.
And I swear you've seen my script for part 2! 😂 I agree Logain being the big bad creates so many more situations for drama between factions
I would love to have a chat with you about counter-arguments.
Always happy to discuss
I've never heard of WOT , and this tv show got me addicted to that universe.... So idk why you would rewrite that, book fanatics always spread free hate for the tv shows, they can stay with the books all they want.
I'm really glad the TV show got you hooked on WoT! Have you read any of the books since watching? I did enjoy the TV show, just been imagining my own adaptation since I read the books and wanted to share.
Great ideas! I wish it would have gone a little more like that. I did love episodes 1 to 4 (minus the wife and dragon mystery), but after that... still have a little hope for S2, but for now, I'll clutch the books tight.;-)
Thank you! I go into serious detail for episodes 5-8 in part 2 - coming soon! I'm also really optimistic for S2.
@@ElliotEdits yup. I.m.o. the first half of the season was the strongest, and the second half treaded too much water before rushing the finale in an unsatisfying way. A more even build up of the season "threat" would have been that much more satisfying.
Curious about one adaptation choice that you haven't covered, and I think with you writing an alternative story is an interesting thought exercise: what do you think of the choice to go to Tar Valon instead of Caemlyn? Would you have done it differently?
Spoilers for part 2 ;)
@@ElliotEdits looking forward to it!
Short answer to #2. Gay. Having same sex relationship shown with “children” would be a problem for American audiences. Shouldn’t be. But there it is.
After some of the scenes from The Boys season 3, I'd have thought that Amazon really didn't have any rules about what they can and can't show
I agree with all of your points except maybe the Egwene/Rand relationship. I think that was done quite well and I have a video coming out discussing that. However, I absolutely agree with all of your other ideas and I think making Logain the main villain of S1 would've been SO. MUCH. BETTER.
I'm really excited to release part 2! Been thinking about how to make Logain the main villain for a while.
Excited for your video on Rand and Egwene too (loved the ways one) I think I could have got on board with their relationship if it had led anywhere but that weird love triangle. That scene kinda kills me a little every time I rewatch.
Lauren (and Elliott!), would be super curious to hear your take on this arc once you watch the fan edit. I cut out a lot of the arc, especially the beats that are repeated. I feel that it still holds together very well - which is at least a proof of concept that with some writing and shooting changes to the original script you could have delivered a clean arc for the relationship in less beats (hence time) and made it feel more impactful.
Lauren, will look out with keen eyes for your video! Love your deep dives.
Why would you rewrite that masterpiece?!?!?!?!?
For fun 😅
Thanks for this in depth video! I had a similar thought process to yours when coming up with my fan edit. In some cases I was able to "rewrite" scenes in the edit, in other scenes it was not possible. I'll comment here as I go along:
4:22 fully agreed. I tried a cut in my fan edit that snipped this dialog out, however the rest of the season keeps referencing back to the fact that the EF5 knows it's one of them, so it was not possible to extract without butchering a major through-line in the show
6:03 Agreed. I cut out significant chunks of the Rand-Egewene arc and it hardly impacts the resolution of their storyline
7:08 I cut the Logain army battle in such a way that it focuses on Stepin's berserk rage when Karene dies, and kills him in the cave assault. No need to further exposit the Warder bond, the explanation that's left in the fan edit conveys the gist of it (although I am currently tinkering with a v2 that gives it a bit more breathing room)
7:56 without being able to create new scenes, I cut out a lot of the red herrings and the scenes that focus so heavily on the DR mystery. It is certainly present in the fan edit, but it isn't the central narrative that the film is structured around. Also made several tweaks to how the information is revealed so that Rand's "outing" as the DR feels more natural and earned.
9:32 You should check out The Dusty Wheel's fan edit clips of their proposed season cold open - they position Logain front and center as a Dragon candidate. It doesn't go as far as your rewrite (looking forward to the next episode!) but it's compelling. I'm tinkering further with my fan edit film and will probably think of doing something similar to position Logain as an antagonist for the first part of the film when I finish v2.
Cheers dude! Excited to see your second version of the re-edit. I'll deffinitely check out that episode of The Dusty Wheel! Thanks for the reccomendation. (totally agree Stepin dying during the battle would have got the exposition across and saved some episode time for our main characters)
@@ElliotEdits here's the Dusty Wheel edits:
Prolog: ua-cam.com/video/2FkycgJt7cQ/v-deo.html
Cold open: ua-cam.com/video/saHGVGJOKlU/v-deo.html
It's masterfully done. Enjoy!
Thank you!
I’m intrigued for the next video! I did quite like the Rand Egwene relationship though, so I think that’s one of the things I disagreed with 🤣
I've been seeing quite a lot of love for their relationship. I might be on my own, but I preferred the naivety in the book version. Admittedly, if it hadn't ended in a left-field love triangle, the show version could have convinced me.
The show is a joke. They disrespected the fans and the books themselves. Its boring. Hard to follow. And unbelievable. They butchered it.
Season 1 was definitely hit and miss. I'd argue though that Eye of the World will always be the hardest book to adapt, and I've got my fingers crossed for season 2 to hit the ground running.