Pursuing the Knightly Arts: 40 for 40 Passage of Arms!
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2017
- Ben and I traveled to Manhatten Kansas to participate in a friendly passage of arms celebrating our friend, Josh's 40th birthday! Was a blast and we were really honored to have attended :)
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My biggest respect for the man with the wooden leg! Warrior!
That was me :) I appreciate the kind words!
-Reece
@Boricua 787 I appreciate that very much 😁👍
Agreed. That is awesome as hell.
that one guy with the prosthetic leg, what a badass
You know, I feel as if we've seen that guy in a couple other videos. Man, if only we knew his name ;)
@@secutorprimus I know this is pretty late, but the man with the prosthetic leg is Reece M Nelson, the host of Pursuing The Knightly Arts.
And that guy is the host of the channel
looks like an dark souls character 5/5
Haha my 5 year old says ‘he’s cool I want a wooden leg’ 😆
4:24 That's a great move you did, blooming smooth as heck.
I was quite proud of that one! :)
-Reece
Yes it's like a very cool shot out of a film
Absolutely loving your style and armoured community in the US! After success of BotN historically accurate armour and techniques went to decline, but you do show the world that real armour and real technique is relevant and brutal. Please don't stop! You will always have Russian's reenactment community love and support!
Heldar1989, thank you so much! We hope to encourage others to take up Harnischfechten. We won't stop! 😁-Reece
"That is like the fifth shot you've scored to the groin."
This made me laugh.
that blackened armor with the hounskull is my dream sir, my dream! keep rockin' you guys.
"He is doing a 40 v 40 passage of arms" IE Beat the goddamn crap outta him. That sounds awesome! Count me in!
So for those that are curious, we didn't use axes or spears cuz they had broken in the first few bouts (sadly I wasn't filming by then). So we used swords and worked on pointwork (no murderstokes allowed). They had asked us not to do much of wrestling as the list was flimsy and didn't require structure for points, but being who we are we still added structure in those openings in harness, cuz that's what we do ;) Let us know what you liked about the video and if you'd like to see more of these in the future!
-Reece
How come you specifically point out when there is no mail? Also, whats the scoring system look like if you don't mind me asking?
Sorry, I just now saw this comment. The scoring system we do typically calls for strikes against mail be added with structure to compress between the rings and soft tissue. Since I didn't have mail a cut or thrust with no structure counted as a point. So, I felt it was worth noting.
-Reece
that dude with a wooden leg looks like he would fit in dark souls. 5/5
Haha! Glad you think so 😂😂-The one legged guy (Reece)
this is how HEMA fights should be conducted. full armor and looking for openings.
We always look for opening, and make them if they are not present. However most of us don't do armored combat because armor is expensive as Hell, and a pain in the ass to take care of. Our sources teach it, and some of us study it, but it's not easy to get enough guys together willing to spend a couple thousand dollars on a suit of armor to make a class. Personally, I need the money for college, so I stick to unarmored combat... for now.
Not only is that expensive but its also good to cover all of it. From no armor to light to heavy armor. Helps you be more well rounded in the long run. Also helps you know that no matter your armor rating, may god help you against the spear
At the end it seemed like Reece was tripped to the ground somewhat easily and I was wondering how much of a penalty the prosthetic posses to you? It also looked like the prosthetic was purposely targeted and I wondered how often opponents target it and how often they just pretend it's like a real leg and ignore it as if it were fully functional? I really enjoyed the point work. Too bad no video with the spears and axes. Your fights always seem so much more real than what is portrayed in M1 or Battle of the Nations. I love that you use historical techniques!
thank you for reviving the closest to old and effective way they used to fight, though probably mundane looking for film lovers but for me, looking but it's beautiful art
Thanks for the compliment! It's been a lot of work and research, but it's a lot of fun for us.😊-Reece
Looks really fun.
Oh it was!
You guys look like you're having a blast! So much fun and great comraderie!
I love brimmed helmets! Burgonets and szyszak are just so badass
Brilliant stuff, it's a wonder the medieval aristocracy ever managed to father children!!
They defended better then we did probably lol.
-Reece
Defend the family jules to keep the bloodline strong.
You guys are doing a great job.
How can you be more badass than a knight? Be a one-legged pirate knight!
Seeing this a year and a half after the fact tickles me. I actually know Josh, though we've lost touch. Stayed at his house in Manhattan while interviewing for a job ages ago.
Good to see he's moved into western martial arts like this. I'm lagging behind, but doing similarly, and what a way to celebrate his 40th!
I really enjoyed your video!
damned italian asimmetric pauldrons
I knooow! So hard to get around...though I'm getting better at it ;)
-Reece
Beautiful video, guys! It's nice to have some of these extended clips of guys having the chance to really go at it. Also seeing how different armor configurations (Even if not historical match ups) might've fared against each other.
Also, I cringe every time I see a palm shot. Yikes. That spooks me.
Thanks! You didn't cringe at the groin shot?! :P
-Reece
Some of those still get that response from me, but after the first quillion/pommeling I took to the cup, I've had a slightly less distinct reaction. That and my thighs can take a bit of a beating where the small bones of my hands cannot. Particular those juicy, meaty, undefended palms.
The fact that we keep halfinch thrusting blunts on our armored combat swords helps with those shots to unpadded areas to a degree.
That's good, and cool to hear. Still, awesome video, and all the bruising and battery can be forgotten after a return to camp. With all the compresses and cold beverages necessary of course.
Awesome video guys, keep it up!!
Thanks! We will!
-Reece
I'm quite curious, what style of helmet is the man wearing at about 3:24mins? (the man who accidently hit Josh in the throat) I'm working on owning my own armor some day and I'm looking into styles and designs, thanks in advance you guys are awesome!
It's a burgonet style helm. Dated for the 16th century :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgonet
Hope this helps! Thanks for the comment and kind words!
-Reece
This was really cool to see! Although I respond quite late, please do more of this. The slomo camera really helps.
Tall AMEK guy, we're glade you liked it! Was concerned if I over did it with the slow motion, but everyone seems to like it. Thanks the comment! Expect more free play in the future ;)
-Reece
Just watched this now... If what I'm about to say is upsetting you Reece in anyway I apologize but.. Imagine this scene... You r in a fight N get disarmed... But you have an Ace up your sleeve... Your prosthetic leg... Come ère ya bastards I'm fight ya with me leg!.... I mean just look at you Reece... You fight in full armor with a prosthetic leg... How more badass can you get?! Huge respect 2 you dude truly
That's cool to see how the longsword is used differently than no-armour style. Just a curiousity where do you buy your armours?
Teacher: "On our next field trip we're going to visit Europe"
The girls: "OMG I want to go to Paris and Rome and taste lots of good food!"
The boys:
Lol!Not wrong!😂😂👍-Reece
Man armoured combat makes one hell of a noise.
Once I get my full suit, maybe I'll contact you guys to a bout or two.
Sure! Let us know!
-Reece
I know you guys work from the material recorded in the treatises which deal almost exclusively with one on one combat, but I'd love to see your take on how men at arms fought in formation on the battlefield. I'd especially love to see a video on the use of the pollaxe in formation. What techniques from the treatises do you think would work in that environment? Anyways keep the good content coming.
Stephen Curtin, we intend to, it's just a matter of getting more then two of us with harness.
Reece
PursuingThe KnightlyArts that's great thanks for the reply.
Awesome stuff guys!
I have a question, what type of armet is Josh wearing? Do you have a date for it maybe?
It's a typical armet for the period of the 15th century. I wanna say around 1460 and onward. The visor is based on historical artwork. Hope this helps!
-Reece
PursuingThe KnightlyArts
Thx man, i'm tryung to put together a mid 15th cent italian kit, and have gone through a fair share of surviving armets of the period and i only ran into the typical "cavalry" armet, i havent seen this. I thought it could be maybe 16th cent(the shape does remind me of maximilian armor, but since i havent researched that far, better to ask and not guess).
Anyway, thx for the reply, it does help, ill try to find it in artwork ;)
Cheers!
Where do you get decent combat armor? I’d like late 15th German preferably with a decent sallet
Well, we both shop around for good deals from various online dealers, threads, auctions, etc and we also both work with metal and have made/modified existing pieces to allow them to work for us. We will be creating a video soon on how to get in harness fro Harnischfechten on the cheap soon, so stay tuned ;)
-Reece
what the hell do you use for daggers? are they even blunt? :D
OzzyCrescat We use blunted or rebated daggers, from a variety of sources. Mine is a Darkwood Armory custom made rondell simulator, others tend to use cheap blunted Indian import daggers modified for our purposes.
The first guy. Is the mail outside of the shoulder plates? Or is he not wearing shoulder plates? Armor newb here.
And in armor its pretty evident that size and strength is a factor. Since there are very little gaps you can get through.. Never really been exposed to proper armor fighting but it pretty intimidating of i were just a lightly armored levi infatry and i see a full plate knight charging at me
That would be Josh, and he left off his pauldrons for the day as he had a LOT of fighting ahead of him and they weigh a LOT and it was 90° out.
Also, size isn't that big of a problem. I'm the shortest guy on that field and I have been. Able to throw all of the larger fighters. Speed and technique have far more to do with it.
@@ilikewasabe that's the idea! RIP feudal levy soldiers.
I wonder why they didn't put the aventail under the breastplate to avoid stuff going underneath it ..reduced mobility maybe?
Historically, maille aventails and standards are pretty dense. So, two layers of protection was sufficient enough (up until the 1400's when you see them add reinforcement. ) if the maille aventail was underneath it would bind and prevent you from turning your head. Maille tends to "grip" things 😂-Reece
I Heard that there was a german knight who got his lower arm ripped off by cannon and replaced it with metal prosthetic but i dont remember his name
Götz Von Berlichingen. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tz_von_Berlichingen
-Reece
Why can't I do stuff like this for my birthday?
I mean, we can show up and fight in harness for your birthday...we're way cooler then clowns ;)
-Reece
That would be the *coolest* birthday ever.
I'd pay to see that!
I think most people would prefer knights over clowns.
The Pariah What about knightly clowns?
Is this HEMA? What is this called?
Yes, this would be considered HEMA. We study the armoured combat techniques from the surviving treatises/Fechtbooks( codex Wallerstein, Paulus kal, Hanz Talhoffer, etc). -Reece
Awesome - thanks
Feint instead of faint was an oopsie there in the middle of the video.
Aww! The Mac likes to "correct" me. It took me four times until it allowed me to keep the word "aventail". *sigh* I'll try do better to catch that next time. Thanks for letting us know!
-Reece
@@pursuingtheknightlyarts6841 I saw "faint" and was worried I had been spelling it wrong for years and didn't know it!
@@CoffeeSnep nope, just my Macbook Pro "correcting" me. It's worse when you try to spell the German and French names of the techniques 😔-Reece
Nice video and music, but give the text some outline so it can be more visible. Then it should be perfect :D
Johnik, thanks for the feedback! We'll try to improve it next time we do this :)
Reece
7:02 he is so aggressive.
He's of German decent ;)
-Reece
Ah, I should have guessed ;)
Loving the harnesses.
In the UK most breastplates are very round, so make you look pudgy.
Swords Look ineffektiv
Well, they're blunt so we don't kill each other 😁👍-Reece
You should have ended him rightly by throwing a pommel. Sorry guys, couldn't stop myself.
Pieter You should be ashamed.