You have to remember to remove the modern Hollywood view of armoured men fighting, this being that of two sword wielding men trying to slash at each other. Instead imagine two armoured men solely using their weapons to push, lever, pull or hammer one another to the ground. The knight was at his most vulnerable on his back on the ground. Normal method of dispatch would be the secoundry side arm, the sharp rondal dagger pushed through the visor or his head smashed in with a war hammer.
as an inspiring concept artist this video was incredibly informative. not only from a historical stand point but from a function and form perspective. this is 100% exactly the video i was looking for. thank you for this fantastic demonstration.
+Joseph Bevacqua When designing armour, it would most probably be extremely helpful to know how each individual piece work and function in order to draw anything related to protective gear, especially for medieval fantasy, making sure it is still quiete possible to use.
Same. I'm working on an OC and wanted to see how arm armor worked. I had a general idea but I wanted to double check and get a close look at it. This helped me a lot.
@@podjawsomness4642 True but you're supposed to be fighting on horseback either way if you're a French knight wearing this armor so I guess it doesn't matter too much. Fair point tho.
I think the reason they kept the strap because they were aware enemies would gain nothing by cutting at the strap itself, let alone trying to use a sword against the man's armor because it would be nigh impossible to damage him with the armor on.
One important issue was the weather at the time of battle, or the joust. It seems that extremes of weather would be very uncomfortable for the wearer. Dehydration obviously in the summer and freezing in an steel suit in the winter.
Overheating mainly. The metal pieces lock in body heat and limit effectiveness of sweat. Remember they have thick gambeson, padding, & hose underneath too.
imagine Jason Voorhees, or Freddy, or Michael Myers breaks into a house and see the next victim wearing this medieval armor with sword and shield. The work is too tough, I quit!
"they are very familiar with each others armour and know how to put them on and take" AND TAKE THEM OFF AHHAHAHA vaguley sexual sign of a healthy marriage
I feel likena lot of people would get panic attacks out of clausaphobia from being incased in metal like that. Even IF it's custom made and perfectly fitted.
I would love to learn how to make this stuff.Is this 14th or 15th century.I noticed the bell gauntlets which is more 14th I think? Versus the cuff or forearm gauntlets where the individual finger gauntlets came in.Of course I know it depended on armorer and probably fighting style since a knight on the front lines required better protection than a cavalryman. Just curious? And a wonderful and informative video.
On Target it is a mid 15th century armor in the Italian style the gauntlet shape is in the hourglass style which is a 14th century style but it would have still been used in the 15th century and the mittengauntlet is a 15th century invention. I hope this helped you :)
Thank you for the reply and love your videos.I was as a child and still am seriously infatuated with armor building and the various styles.Particularly loved the 12th to 13th century English versions and would spend hours drawing different armor types.But I have never laid hands on an anvil or hammer!Any suggestions for getting started?
TheCrafterMan thats a good question in medieval times women are often depicted in chastity belts which are metal underwear that your father locks on you so i question one what happens when the child grows and two how do they go to the bathroom
TheCrafterMan There are more or less three different ways, either you take it all off. Or if it's possible, you only take off what you need to do what you have to do. Or if you are in combat I suspect that you take care of the mess later. It's a bit similar to fighter pilots today, when you in the air your options are a bit limited.
Dom T I think that if you grow out of a chastity belt you simply get a new larger one. As for the bathroom, they had holes in them for that, here is an example: s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/51/0b/49/510b49d04b2ec872407c7d04b8c5fe57.jpg The holes are large enough for bathroom business but small enough to prevent unwanted bedroom business.
***** Interesting, while I was under the impression that they were extreamly uncommon. This is the first time I've heard that the medieval chastity belts are nothing more than a myth. While I'm not convinced at the moment, I would not be surprised if it is a myth just as so many other things about medieval times.
you could get to the softkit and do it, depending on the armor. I will remember two things: 1). In an equestrian armor you can sit, so i guess you can shit too. 2) Along with 1), that's probably a reason why not many defenses were developed apart from mail skirts.
Vesrox I want to say wrong , because foot sodliers mostly did not wear and leg or foot armor . ( i could be wrong , show me a source and i will believe you ) ,.
Helge Der Gesegnete those were common soldiers . People who couldn't afford to cover their legs in armour so they worried about the essentials . Knights and other of the gentry class when they would fight on foot they would wear sabatons. You can watch Knyght errants video on sabatons to learn more
Steven Good Not really , you can get a quiet bad made leg armor if the protection is needed. Armor in a normal and not ornamented form from a smith is not expensive , so this theorie seems wrong . But it really is not needed that much , if you get more movement .
Helge Der Gesegnete you see 14-15th century depictions of common soldiers in little to now leg armour. You mainly see them in Brigandines helmets sometimes gauntlets and sometimes poleyns for the knees .
+Joseph Bevacqua I've had this happen with my gauntlets. Occasionally if you cup your fist to tightly. The plate guarding your knuckles will separate from the upper plate over the top of the hand and get stuck. So you have to smack it your other hand real hard to pop it back into it's groove. Using a hammer though is a bit unnecessary.
+Joseph Bevacqua An extra solid plate in front of the throat called a bevor to prevent the lance to slide down in your neck and to prevent the helm from opening under impact.
dogs do not have good preferential vision just like us they are carnivore so there eyes are set in the front of there head to watch prey while herbivores like rabbits or deer even horses have eyes on the side of there head with better surrounding vision to stay safe from harm
Too bad that knights made mainly their armor look awesome and not perfectly effective against piercing. According to me the most effective armor is a metallic armor with an enormous bubble belly which resembles an overweigh fatass, but in fact the armor is very light. It's the greatest armor, but it limits the movements that had to with the arms moving in front of the belly. Imagine yourself thrusted by a longsword on your belly's armor. Your belly's armor width will save from a sure kill.
These leather straps for securing protection for the legs look so shaky. I think any seasoned warrior could cut them sliced with a sword. So what? protection for feet just fall. Good bang of a good sword - could cut even chainmail, I do not think that the leather straps were what that difficulty. Next you could inflict a terrible wound in the leg, or cut the tendon, the knight fell down, and you could kill him with final blow.
The problem is you would be cutting at a downward angle and that actually gives you less reach and exposes your head to your opponent. A seasoned warrior would not bend over to cut at something if his opponent was standing straight.
a little late but - he wouldn't be probably attacked by another plate wearing skilled knight by sword or sharp weapon, he would use mace or polearm or something with reasonable concussive force. Also I saw greaves which are closed and held by spring force - back part is squeezed into front and held there by bulge (there was "security" strap around thou). Also cutting such small target which moves rapidly while enemy is counterattacking and parrying is virtually impossible, it might happen, I once saw that on steel battle on someones paldron strap, but it was more like fluke than intended strike :)
Trbrigade Its not leather like leather pants more like a leather saddle so its sturdy and hard to cut. Plus its resting up against the armor. When you cut a rope with a knife you wrap it around the blade and go back and forth with the edge. If you put the rope on the side walk and just took swipes at it with the knife I imagine it would take a while to completely cut it in half
You have to remember to remove the modern Hollywood view of armoured men fighting, this being that of two sword wielding men trying to slash at each other. Instead imagine two armoured men solely using their weapons to push, lever, pull or hammer one another to the ground. The knight was at his most vulnerable on his back on the ground. Normal method of dispatch would be the secoundry side arm, the sharp rondal dagger pushed through the visor or his head smashed in with a war hammer.
To be fair that was the form of sword combat for most of history and most parts of the world
to be fair he'd be more vulnerable laying on his belly on the ground
This is very well shown in The King (2019)
@@artofket it's getting there definately, Maximillian was decent for zweihander fighting too
as an inspiring concept artist this video was incredibly informative. not only from a historical stand point but from a function and form perspective. this is 100% exactly the video i was looking for.
thank you for this fantastic demonstration.
+battlebattle why
+battlebattle Lol i was about to write the same comment!
+Joseph Bevacqua When designing armour, it would most probably be extremely helpful to know how each individual piece work and function in order to draw anything related to protective gear, especially for medieval fantasy, making sure it is still quiete possible to use.
Same. I'm working on an OC and wanted to see how arm armor worked. I had a general idea but I wanted to double check and get a close look at it. This helped me a lot.
Here for the exactly same reason, armer suit is this week homework!
Those leather shoes look seriously comfy.
They're part of the pants I think :0
Since these are likely custom made they probably are as comfy as they look too.
@@ArcaneMage54k They are very comfy but slippery on cobble stone and grass. And it sucks when they get whet, like socks but rubbery..
@@podjawsomness4642 True but you're supposed to be fighting on horseback either way if you're a French knight wearing this armor so I guess it doesn't matter too much. Fair point tho.
The ultimate challenge of any armor and the armorer: wearer comfort.
Do you even sabaton bro?
Such a beautiful suit of armor :)
I love how the speaker's talking like they're gonna throw him in a fighting pit right after.
"And this thing _will,_ *hopefully,* protect him"
I think the reason they kept the strap because they were aware enemies would gain nothing by cutting at the strap itself, let alone trying to use a sword against the man's armor because it would be nigh impossible to damage him with the armor on.
Fantastic to be able to see how it was done. Excellent.
One important issue was the weather at the time of battle, or the joust. It seems that extremes of weather would be very uncomfortable for the wearer. Dehydration obviously in the summer and freezing in an steel suit in the winter.
Overheating mainly. The metal pieces lock in body heat and limit effectiveness of sweat. Remember they have thick gambeson, padding, & hose underneath too.
Hal, I doubt Jeff is wearing armor made by somebody else. He's a very proficient armorer! :)
Very very interesting, greetings from Italy!
fantastic set of armour
Where are your sabatons?!
imagine Jason Voorhees, or Freddy, or Michael Myers breaks into a house and see the next victim wearing this medieval armor with sword and shield. The work is too tough, I quit!
Wow his voider mail is sweet looks like it saves alot of weight.
"they are very familiar with each others armour and know how to put them on and take" AND TAKE THEM OFF AHHAHAHA vaguley sexual sign of a healthy marriage
Todo un verdadero ritual el proceso de colocación de la armadura... Fascinante!
By the Lady this is a great video!
Really neat stuff.
Met Museum should do a video on 18th Century Western European Royalty Costumes.
Take Madame de Pampadour as an example.
What an amazing work!!
Could you tell me what sabatons would have been worn? Pointed or rounded etc? Great video thank you
I was wondering this too. If he went out there with just those leather boots he'd probably end up with holes in his feet!
I am pretty sure they would be pointy, not very, but slightly.
The armor seems to be from around 1450.
Sort of rounded. But I've seen Italians wearing mail sabatons instead of plate ones
I feel likena lot of people would get panic attacks out of clausaphobia from being incased in metal like that. Even IF it's custom made and perfectly fitted.
I wants that armor! :D
Fascinating
I love plate armor. So cool
ride around for hours and you'll see that the lance is heavy.
Awesome stuff!
italian white armor
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@@kaldrax1 what
It is so amazing how this stuff was common back then; lucky guy to get a wife that enjoys the same passion, and it quite the looker! :D
I would love to learn how to make this stuff.Is this 14th or 15th century.I noticed the bell gauntlets which is more 14th I think? Versus the cuff or forearm gauntlets where the individual finger gauntlets came in.Of course I know it depended on armorer and probably fighting style since a knight on the front lines required better protection than a cavalryman. Just curious? And a wonderful and informative video.
On Target it is a mid 15th century armor in the Italian style the gauntlet shape is in the hourglass style which is a 14th century style but it would have still been used in the 15th century and the mittengauntlet is a 15th century invention. I hope this helped you :)
Thank you for the reply and love your videos.I was as a child and still am seriously infatuated with armor building and the various styles.Particularly loved the 12th to 13th century English versions and would spend hours drawing different armor types.But I have never laid hands on an anvil or hammer!Any suggestions for getting started?
On Target :) sadly they are not my videos. I am just some guy who is obsessed with armor and is always happy to answer a view questions
It's a shame he didn't have more time to teach.
absoutely fantastic :)
And i'm feeling like a little glimpse in the world of game of thrones type
That one person who asked about the weak points two minutes after he explained it :/
Europeans were so advanced compared to most of the world. Incredible!
Honest question: How would a person manage passing bodily waste with that armor?
TheCrafterMan thats a good question in medieval times women are often depicted in chastity belts which are metal underwear that your father locks on you so i question one what happens when the child grows and two how do they go to the bathroom
TheCrafterMan There are more or less three different ways, either you take it all off. Or if it's possible, you only take off what you need to do what you have to do. Or if you are in combat I suspect that you take care of the mess later.
It's a bit similar to fighter pilots today, when you in the air your options are a bit limited.
Dom T I think that if you grow out of a chastity belt you simply get a new larger one. As for the bathroom, they had holes in them for that, here is an example:
s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/51/0b/49/510b49d04b2ec872407c7d04b8c5fe57.jpg
The holes are large enough for bathroom business but small enough to prevent unwanted bedroom business.
gurkfisk89 Alright, that makes sense. Thanks for the answer!
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Interesting, while I was under the impression that they were extreamly uncommon. This is the first time I've heard that the medieval chastity belts are nothing more than a myth. While I'm not convinced at the moment, I would not be surprised if it is a myth just as so many other things about medieval times.
How did they poop during long combats/battles?
you could get to the softkit and do it, depending on the armor. I will remember two things: 1). In an equestrian armor you can sit, so i guess you can shit too. 2) Along with 1), that's probably a reason why not many defenses were developed apart from mail skirts.
I think that during a long combat is not when you take a shit.
And if you must, surviving is your main priority
A W E S O M E !
so this is tourney armor ? not used for battle for common soldiers ?
It is a battle armor, but also suitable for jousting. Common foot soldiers did not use such armor...
Who made this armor though?
for Valentines Day, they let the Armour on ;)
I'm saving up to get someone to build me a suit for jousting.
Thank you.
Did you build that kit?
is this jousting armor or war armor?
I'm not sure but guessing by the emphasis on mobility over protection I'd say war armor.
The armor looks more like a war armor, however the face plate was more common on the jousting armors
It's a field harness (war armor) optimised for Cavalry Usage
I bet that armour cost atleast 10000 €
More like 20k I think
If you make it yourself its quiet cheap acually
He made his himself most likely so not all that much. 75usd maybe? He's a master armorer but you dont need that much experience to start making stuff.
The italians did not wear sollerets?
throughout a lot of Europe it was common to not wear foot armour when on horseback. If fighting on foot then they would have worn them.
Vesrox I want to say wrong , because foot sodliers mostly did not wear and leg or foot armor . ( i could be wrong , show me a source and i will believe you ) ,.
Helge Der Gesegnete those were common soldiers . People who couldn't afford to cover their legs in armour so they worried about the essentials . Knights and other of the gentry class when they would fight on foot they would wear sabatons. You can watch Knyght errants video on sabatons to learn more
Steven Good Not really , you can get a quiet bad made leg armor if the protection is needed. Armor in a normal and not ornamented form from a smith is not expensive , so this theorie seems wrong . But it really is not needed that much , if you get more movement .
Helge Der Gesegnete you see 14-15th century depictions of common soldiers in little to now leg armour. You mainly see them in Brigandines helmets sometimes gauntlets and sometimes poleyns for the knees .
Seriously, they must have been kylo ren on this guy
what on 17:49?
+Joseph Bevacqua I've had this happen with my gauntlets. Occasionally if you cup your fist to tightly. The plate guarding your knuckles will separate from the upper plate over the top of the hand and get stuck. So you have to smack it your other hand real hard to pop it back into it's groove. Using a hammer though is a bit unnecessary.
+William Merzlak what on 16:57
+Joseph Bevacqua An extra solid plate in front of the throat called a bevor to prevent the lance to slide down in your neck and to prevent the helm from opening under impact.
sunnmøringen Riksheim 17:49
“The element of surprise could really give you the element of surprise.”
Captain Obvious has struck again.
He sounds like a pewds
what? no arming cap? you're going to get a concussion when they start ringing your helmet like a bell.
Armets tended to have a suspended lining inside of the helmet, so there's no actual need to wear an additional arming cap on top of that
Inside suspension liner... existed at least since the cervellier started to be a more stand-alone helmet (resulting in the bascinet)
If you look closely, it's inside the helmet.
Please tell your squire not to block the camera, thank you. Awesome vid.
Smokin' hot wife!
Spanish Armour...???
HV vb
dogs do not have good preferential vision just like us they are carnivore so there eyes are set in the front of there head to watch prey while herbivores like rabbits or deer even horses have eyes on the side of there head with better surrounding vision to stay safe from harm
Too bad that knights made mainly their armor look awesome and not perfectly effective against piercing. According to me the most effective armor is a metallic armor with an enormous bubble belly which resembles an overweigh fatass, but in fact the armor is very light. It's the greatest armor, but it limits the movements that had to with the arms moving in front of the belly. Imagine yourself thrusted by a longsword on your belly's armor. Your belly's armor width will save from a sure kill.
This is the most incomprehensible comment I've ever read.
These leather straps for securing protection for the legs look so shaky. I think any seasoned warrior could cut them sliced with a sword. So what? protection for feet just fall. Good bang of a good sword - could cut even chainmail, I do not think that the leather straps were what that difficulty. Next you could inflict a terrible wound in the leg, or cut the tendon, the knight fell down, and you could kill him with final blow.
The problem is you would be cutting at a downward angle and that actually gives you less reach and exposes your head to your opponent. A seasoned warrior would not bend over to cut at something if his opponent was standing straight.
NoiseVomiter
agreed...
a little late but - he wouldn't be probably attacked by another plate wearing skilled knight by sword or sharp weapon, he would use mace or polearm or something with reasonable concussive force. Also I saw greaves which are closed and held by spring force - back part is squeezed into front and held there by bulge (there was "security" strap around thou). Also cutting such small target which moves rapidly while enemy is counterattacking and parrying is virtually impossible, it might happen, I once saw that on steel battle on someones paldron strap, but it was more like fluke than intended strike :)
Cutting the leather straps is *much* tougher than you think, and good mail is nearly impervious to cuts.
Trbrigade Its not leather like leather pants more like a leather saddle so its sturdy and hard to cut. Plus its resting up against the armor. When you cut a rope with a knife you wrap it around the blade and go back and forth with the edge. If you put the rope on the side walk and just took swipes at it with the knife I imagine it would take a while to completely cut it in half