2207 vs 2306 FPV motor - Blind Test & Comparison!
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2019
- Which motor is better for a FPV Freestyle drone? 2306 or 2207? What do these numbers even mean?! Let's see if the pilots know their stuff and can even tell a difference...
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Drew Camden [Le Drib]
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I'm sure Bardwell was shakin his head when he watched this vid hahahaha!🤣😂💯
I was just thinking they must not watch his videos.
Why you tried with different props?.... The prop is what dictates the power draw, grip in the air, speed... etc...
(put a 2 blade old gemfan 5030 and they will say OMG there is no power!!!)
Exactly!
Umm this may be a late comment but again great episode!
Honestly there IS a significant difference between 2306 and 2207 at the same KV. 2306 is more linear, has better low-throttle performance, but drain batteries faster. 2207 has higher top end speed, slightly more efficient, but doesn't fly very well at low throttle. (All with the same props)
If you are used to high throttle flying, 2207 is a much better choice than 2306, especially on 6s. But if you just started to learn racing or complex freestyle, 2306 is easier to control.
Results might vary depending on the motor manufacturers. I'v only tried rcinpower motors and iflight XING motors before making the above conclusion.
BTW the new DALPROP t5046c is absolutely amazing so go check it out lol..
Props to bardwell for always staying professional. That death stare was awesome!
Drews face when Jamie said his motors were loose!!! 😂🤣🔥
lol, vanover's reveal scene cracks me up 😂
Loved the Vanover entry skit😂
Many thanks folks, this was again a real good RR episode:
Very entertaining and we all, who do not own 2207 and 2306 motors with the exact kv values, learned a lot, imho.
It was really surprising to me that both motors, with the same kv, actally seemed to feel pretty much the same.
I thought, that you would feel the faster accellerating 2207 for sure.
But I only own 2207 2700kv and 2306 2450kv of BH.
And these are not comparable. - Everybody feels and hears! the difference immediately.
I chose those motors for a reason:
The 2007 2700kv spin up extremely fast and therefor have extreme response. Which is great if I like to fly in "wider" areas. And they so easily throw your quad... sometimes almost too far ;-) - Pushing the throttle up fast does not cost you many amps if you fly for example the skinny T-Motor props, I also love them for that motor.
A lite quad with these is a beast! - And lot of people seem to love to fly them with much throttle-expo (for the gain in low end resolution).
The 2306 2450kv spin up slower, but also with torque, are more forgiving to nervous throttle control and you have to accellerate them a bit slower and more linear to get your punch. Otherwise you'll burn amps - I love these for smooth freestyle and also proximity on a small space because the are not fast enought to react that immediate if you overshoot a little bit in your throttle reaction.
Why do the 2207 spin up faster and why do 2206 have such a nice smooth feel?
* The 2207 spin up faster because the stator is not that wide, so the swinging mass (the bell) to be accellerated is less.
(probably not the perfect description but I hope you get what I mean)
* The 2306 spin up slower because the stator is wider, so the swinging mass (the bell) to be accellerated is more, but when it once is accelerated, it keeps it's accelleration pretty stable, which makes it more forgiving to nervous throttle thumbs.
The flighttime when I fly the quads with the described motors is pretty the same. - But I also fly those different motors very different. - The 2207 more agressive and the 2306 possibly as smooth as I can ;-)
And this episode made me interested in some 2306 2700kv, perhaps the golden middle for me?
Or maybe 2207 2500kv? - Maybe those?
(Damn, then I have to buy spare motors for three types... that's not good:-)
Again, well done, I loved this episode: All tumbs up!
Alex is such a great member of the team. I love when him and Drew tease each other it's pretty funny. reminds me of my Lil brother
True, Alex is still really enthusiastic about flying despite having way more hours than Drib & Vortex.
Love this. Blind test is better than science. Alex is right about running the spreadsheets for race results, but four reports of what each pilot felt was way more interesting. Thanks!
Fantastic job, guys! 😃
This is the first RR's video I liked in a long time! Subscribed again! 😊
Longer video but kept my interest throughout. Very interesting, especially as a mate has the Vort3x motors 👍
Fun video, and I appreciated the info. Fun science is the way to go :)
Man! every time I watch a rotor riot video I wish I fly 5in so I could join the party... but then, every time I fly my local park and someone says that my quad doesn't bother them,... they didn't even hear it... Im glad I fly 3in. :)
Please please please do more of these. Blind comparisons are so much more meaningful than numbers on a data sheet.
I'd love to see a comparison between say the XING and XING-E, or similar comparison between an "economy" motor and the luxury model with identical stator size.
That was hilarious when Alex magically came out from behind the tree. Good vid.
Like the video and nice to see a comparison but not all motors with the same size and if are the same.
I run 2306 2450 on the same frames with the same internals and props and the brother hobby r6 have way longer flight times than the hypetrains, with more initial grunt.
Really cool and fun show.. Your commercials just get better and better.. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
LOL 😂
That was fun, thanks!
The Vanover intro was hilarious!
I love you Rotor Riot!
Great conversation to hear. Go enought test for me i think. Maybe same test (motors and quad) but with the Jamie's Props. I was just upgrading my motors and at least this gets me a bit closure to seeing that from what you all were saying and Vanover's racing info, it's still more of a preference thing. I really wanted to just choose a motor, buy a few and be done with it. But I guess I'll just have to 'try' a few different ones to find out.
Good vid guys. Like this type of group try & fly, subjective stuff.
Thanks guys. I learned a lot from this video. Awesome 2306
Awesome introduction of the captain the captain without the crunch
JB: "these people are crazy"
Great fun review, always preferred 2306 over 2207 for freestyle, but prefer 2208 1800 6S for the last 9 months, whatever keeps it worth flying I guess👍
I’m running the Hypetrain 2306 2450kv freestyle and they are super responsive with the cyclone 5051s def my go to
same here. love them
Same. Except with Azure Power props. It's ridiculous.
"I wanna say this is the chew toe oh seven" @15:45 every time 😂
Muy buena prueba para todos los simples mortales que se la llevan peleando que son muy diferentes como se sienten los 2207 vs 2306 solo por ver videos con opiniónes
the face bardwell made when he told drib he liked 2207's better was comedy GOLD XD
I notice a difference in motors and profiles in 4S, once you go with 6S, it really levels the playing field, you just pick based on quality, price and the styling you like.
All that said, I like 2306 the best, 2207 and 2307 suck more amps for almost no extra performance- they also hold on to heat longer.
We need Kabab FPV to do this! he has strong opinions on 2207 vs 2306
@KababFPV
He did it the quad feel theory
@@mehulanand8623 yeah but could he tell the difference blind?
so funny episode loved that...!
OG 2306 2450kv Hypetrains on 5s is where it’s at!!
TAQ FPV I concur. Seems 5s is finally getting the love.
APS FPV 5s 💪
I have a full ledrib skyeliner dal5046 setup and a full vortex Bandolero Tmotor 5143 setup. My LeDrib definitely gets longer flight times by over a minute longer. The bando flies amazing but I feel way more confident with my skyeliner.
Drew's expression and the heartwrenching music when LSF was "dissing" his motors were priceless. Was the expression scripted? 😉 So these guys are all so good that they can fly rates other than they're used to that well! Hrmph! 😉 Showoffs! 😉 Naw, great episode guys (and of course Foxy whom I'd sorta call one of the guys...in the good way as in she's their equal in every way. My, it's a challenge to try to offend as few as possible while clowning)! You may not have come up with some huge revelation, but it was entertaining, well shot and produced and a fun watch! It might be lame to like RR 2.0 these days, but you kids are growing on me and guess how many effs I give about appearing cool... Nicely done! 😁👍👊
I love rotor riot. Woooooohhhhh
Vanovers face was a picture when you told him that he was wrong.lol
Good job y'all'ses. There was I a time when I could be asked for a number and drop it on the trips and be right on. Van called it:-) really good video.
Liked for Drew's faces alone haha
Drip is so good man it's crazy. No micro movements ever
Fun video !
Well, at lest they scienced their way to the actual answer - prop pairings dictate most of the feel, and that variations in battery performance are going to be more substantial than minor differences in stator size when you're not flying all out.
Lighter props that can spin up faster are going to be generally better on tall stators, and can linearize thrust delivery on some setups. For most beefier props that tend to have that 'creamy' feel, the wider stator is going to feel much better, with a lot of the torque delivery happening at low to mid throttle. On those props, I'd probably choose 2306, but for what I run the answer is 2208 motors all day every day.
tehllama42 agreed. When you get to the 2207 and 2306 size I feel it’s all preference. But props have a lot to do with it. Now for freestyle I’m with you on the 2208’s. I love my Xing 2208 1700’s on a wild Willy dolphin frame.
@@archer4922 If you want to run slightly porky race quads (very wind-resistant), those same motors are amazingly good. Definitely excellent for GoPro haulers as well
tehllama42 definitely
wait so you used same everything except props?? thats kinda a big deal
Yea the results are pretty much worthless with different props.
Didn't y'alls parents teach you not to talk over someone lol great vid guys :D
It's shinny 💖😂😂 Bro science to the max !
Bro Science 🧬 😂 Good video guys
I'm liking videos like this. Helps the newbies. Well kinda. lol Nice Bois!
Oops! And Ladies!
Great video! I’m happy with my $12 2306 2500kv
Hattash Fpv which ones? Always looking for a reliable affordable option.
APS FPV 3BHobby Trainer motors
They also have 2207’s
this was the best episode EVEr, i mean the topic was shit, but all so hilarious dudes :D
I bet Joshua is scoffing at this. You really needed to minimise the changes in variables to ascertain a fair comparison!
Nahhh changing the props wouldn't affect the flight lmao
@@donutves this is satire right?
Entertaining.
I loved my dribs that 2306 was the fastest motor I've flown on 4s yet!!!They burnt up in a crash,I'm testing them now to see if they survived.if they did there going on another quad...
That's cool, buddy
Great video! The motors seem even bc dribs are actually not 2650kv they test a little higher around 2700kv+ that plus the 22 size stator struggling with the heavy quad weight and pulling more amps evens them out. Everything can be explained with science!!
Max Beamer And everything can be wrong because of the science factor!!!
Lil Burkan FPV 🤔
I bet I could tell all my quads are 2306 except 1 awesome video yall
Stellar is so totally Stellar, and she has the best legs of anybody in Rotor Riot...
everyone will agree on that but i'm glad this sport is open to all as equal, unless you are blind maybe//
@@2muchofyou I'm a little far-sighted...
At least she’s trying. Lol
@@beefbiriyani5575 and I would add she's succeeding!
Can someone tell me where I can get those fatshark goggle pads? They look so comfortable!
I have both Stingerswarm 2150kv and Ummagawd 2150kv. On 5s and 6in I like the way the Ummagawd 2306 feel versus the Stingerswarm 2207.
There's a pretty easy way to choose between them if you're on the fence. If you have a lighter quad, 2207 will give you great performance without killing your batteries too much. But if you have a heavier quad, 2306 might be a better match to carry the weight more efficiently and give better performance.
Actually blind blind would be if the person plugging in didn’t know which is which either
Still a fun watch tho. “Bro science”😂👌🏼
You're absolutely right that's actually called a double blind study. So for example the administrator of the test would not know what the motor size was either
Let's hear it for "Bro science"! Daitch here is right! Double bling means neither the subject(s) NOR anyone on the research team knows which is real and which is the placebo.
I much preferer Drew's flying style over the others. not hating on the others. but Drew's flow is just perfect.
I think the moral is to pick a setup, and stick to it long term. You will fly better and become more comfortable with that setup.
I think you would definitely be able to feel the difference if you were flying 6s lower KV. With high KV 4s motors I think the only way you could tell would be amp draw. The feel would be the same just one would sag faster.
14:30... LMAO (the face image plant).
Side note: to add some validity to this type of entertainment, run a BlackBox of a full flight on each "identical" quad. If the raw noise is the same and all of the BF settings are the same, with the same equipment, then it can be an A - B test.
Good one. 2306 or 2207 draws more amp??
It is nice to see your real flight without HS enabled. Propwash, vibration and all the normal things.
Nice Vanover intro @ 12:45
i switched from 2206 2450kv rifle motors to 2306 2700kv t motors and love the 2306, I feel like I have more control at lower throttle.
drew totally knew which one he was flying ;)
look at them hotdog straps I love em
17:26 let the video on pause
me when I find a nice bando be like
Nice!;)
This was so super fun! Love that we all guessed correctly except Alex 😁 super scientific and stuff 🚀🚀
"you werent talking about smelling motors" hahahahaha 14:30
that vannover entrance was fuckin hilarious!
Only difference I've noticed is the throttle at the lower end is more. Linier on the 2207 compared to more mushy or that you have to move it more to get what you wanted out of it on the 2306. .. but you'd get used to each
How can cpt vanovers setup be much lighter than ledribds? Are the seperat esc's much heavier?
much lower weight frame, micro cam
@@astrofpv7035 how much does the skyeliner weigh? I thought mini sized cams were gone with 2018, lol 😂
Skyeliner is my heaviest quad with shorter flight times. That sacrifice is worth it though. I can slingshot it further for that floaty airtime over trees and rooftops.
Odd I have Mr copper 2306 and I love them but there 2400 and they feel like they cause battery sag more than my xilo 2207/2550 but 2550 did feel stronger but less linear low throttle control
Hypertrains are on fire😎👊🤘
Could tell by the sound in the first few seconds
bro really asked scout from tf2 to guess a quad motors
And I still love my trusty old 2205 2600 Emax motors! ;-)
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Please do a PPM vs Ibus vs Sbus blind test (AT LEAST ppm vs sbus OR ibus..... I really REALLY wanna know if people can tell the difference between PPm and iBus
I love him trashing dribs controls at the end
Could yall please do a video about atennas
Sure! What questions do you have and what what do you want to see?
Like i would love to see what type of antennas work the best which are good for begineers ,and what you should gradually grow into. Like what antennas yall use because i really need help on that
More on rx stubby antennae please!
The vas ion/ ion v2
Captain is Macaulay Culkin brother ? ;P Drone alone :D
Useful to know. Nothing really in it, narrower is best for freestyle then! I've dented more 2306's than 2207's (although I am crap).
First off. You can always tell the difference in the sound. 2306 are much higher pitch screamers. 2207 is more of a lower scream. I have only ever ran Dribv2…..still wondering if I should try different ones.
I thought 2207 was going to be the clear winner. But I'm still with the Captain & Vort3x on this ;)
7:42 Bwahahahahaha!!!!! So so funny!!!
haha.. liked the humor in this one. for the record, 2306. 👍
Van is slowly becoming my favorite pilot..... sorry drew. for real though I like to way you two interact with each other on camera, its a great mix of personalities.
Tendríais que probarlos sin saber qué motor tiene. Y guiaros por vuestras sensaciones.
Haha I agree with the Captain. 2207.5 is where it's at.
I fly 2600kv F40 Pro II and IIIs on 4s builds and F40 Pro II 1750kv on 6s (this is Fpv_diva)
I used to fly BH 2207s and F60 pro IIs and i gotta say 2306s just feel better to me... They fly cleaner and easier to tune on any 2306 build vs 2207s... I've also used the Emax RSIIs RS2207 and RS2306. The very top end power may be slightly more on the 2207s but the low and mid range response is better on 2306s and the top end isn't handle anymore on the 2207s.
Plx name the goggles you used
Lol Bardwell is streaming right now
Stay on one motor!
Just saw this and feel even worse for asking for the 2207's hahahahahaah I