dumbest comparison. Someone tried to explain me in a mile long comment why dickie Allen isnt the best Vocalist. I just said "imo Dickie is the best" and than someone tried to explain why my preference is wrong 😂
@@Randybobandy024i agree with you on dickie but people can have wrong opinions. It happens everyday now in this world. So just cause someone says I believe ________ is best blah blah doesn't mean it's right. People can have the opinion that the world is flat but it isn't.
@@DEATHREAPER330 the difference is that the flat earth is objectively wrong. Music is subjective, so maybe for some people Dickie isn't the best. He's the best imo, my best friend prefers Dan Watson, personally I can't stand Dan at all 🤷
Unpopular opinion that granted will never work out because of rather obvious reasons but have Lorna Shore do a song with Tom and CJ. That vocal combo would be so cool!
He was unmuted just a bit too quiet, I don't know if they checked and gain staged the mic with Will beforehand, seems like his vocals aren't as loud as Toms naturally, so if the sound guy just copied Toms settings onto another channel, of course Wills gonna be not as loud.
ironically I saw this same thing at a Lorna Shore concert, had 3 people come out. 2 were perfect, the one in the middle no sound at all the entire time he performed on stage at all. I was like I shouldve known this was too good to be true. Sound guy mustve just been asleep. I seen a super super small show with sots recently and they did all their own sound stuff and lo and behold they were late to the fig David comes running on stage plugs in his own mic and it was flawless I was like well that was like 10secs without a soundguy at all 😂
LOVED IT!!! Wish Will's mic would've been a bit turned up, but i get they're trying to highlight Tom. Solid performance all around tho! Would love to see a collab between them both :D
I hope they are good friends. I love their energy. They're both hilarious! I saw Chelsea Grin about 2 years ago, and I absolutely love the way Tom Barber dances to this music 😄
The first of december I'll go see Chelsea Grin supporting Dying Fetus, so keep your eyes open for another Chelsea Grin video! A like and subscribe would be appriciated :)
@@alexr6913 Aww man. That's a shame cause they've made some gold stuff as well. But I get it, it's like a rebirth or smthin since their direction has changed.
@@Oryyyt They did play 'Recreant' tho, but thats a golden oldie, been listening to these guys since 2007 but this is the first time seeing them live, by the end of October I'll be going to Thy Art is Murder and Whitechapel so keep your eyes open
@@Gac3lanah, they done C.J. dirty, that album is still one of all time favorites from them, I loved Tom, but C.J. was an absolute *BEAST* and honestly I think he sounded better than Will.
I have no idea how I forgot this happened, I can literally see myself in this video but I have absolutely no memory of this...I guess I hit my head too hard when the Lorna Shore crowd dropped me while crowdsurfing later that day or something
@@Criticismo228 Cowards?! lol! From everything I’ve heard about CJ I don’t blame them for cutting him loose. From multiple SA allegations not just the one that got him kicked out of the band in the first place to him calling people n**** with the hard R, dude doesn’t sound like someone you should be defending
@@ViciouzCyclez Oh hector hernandez, youre so empathic for problems of people who wanna be insulted by jokes and words about their skin colour and narcissistic infantile ex-girls of CJ, the products of weinstein effect. I wont buy this shitty agenda ma boy, Im slav, we were slaves too, this is the origin of our name. And if there’s something you dont like in your relationships, it’s not actually necessary to remain partners in your relationships, just leave :) Do not destruct your partner’s career and life. Btw CJ made decent statement. Your masculinity killed by agenda, hernandez 🥲
the soundguy at that moment: oh shush wheres the fader for that mic again?!?! Am i the only one thinking that will is waaay to quiet here? an also whats wrong with that crowd? I'd have screamed my lungs out if will popped on the stage out of nowhere
Is there a sound engineer in the chat that can explain to me why they can't instantly turn up the mic of a singer when they realise that he's low volume like in this case for Will? I have witnessed this so many times and am everytime frustrated they don't "react"... so maybe there's a valid reason
I was stoked for this vid only to realize they robbed Will, bummer. Who knows, could have been good in the monitors? Maybe mic fault? Maybe sound booth asleep? All he could do is give his all.
I really wish the sound guys would do their job and push the guest vocalists mic to the front. So sick of seeing features and you can’t hear the fucking feature!!
I love just how Will always pop outta nowhere like a pokemon :D
He was announced as the vocalist for Chelsea Grin that day due to some issues but the original vocalists showed up anyway
Best pokeman ever!😂😂😂
The pokemon that i want to have🤣how can i get him?🤣🤣🤣
Gotta catch them all lol 😂🤘🏼
A wild Will Ramos appeared!
Why put up with the never-ending debate about who's better when you can enjoy them both in one song! This was awesome!
dumbest comparison. Someone tried to explain me in a mile long comment why dickie Allen isnt the best Vocalist. I just said "imo Dickie is the best" and than someone tried to explain why my preference is wrong 😂
@@Randybobandy024 lmao some people are really like that huh
Fr. They are entirely different vocalists. Toms vocals are so unique to him and will is absolute goblin lord. Comparing them is dumb. Enjoy both!
@@Randybobandy024i agree with you on dickie but people can have wrong opinions. It happens everyday now in this world. So just cause someone says I believe ________ is best blah blah doesn't mean it's right. People can have the opinion that the world is flat but it isn't.
@@DEATHREAPER330 the difference is that the flat earth is objectively wrong. Music is subjective, so maybe for some people Dickie isn't the best. He's the best imo, my best friend prefers Dan Watson, personally I can't stand Dan at all 🤷
The drums are so insane no matter how many times ive heard this 😫🙌🏽💯🔥🔥💯🔥💯🔥
The two biggest golden retrievers in deathcore collab i love it lol
these are my two favorite people in metal i wish i could’ve seen this!!! 😭
A Chelsea Shore album would be awesome 🤘😈🤘
Considering both Tom and will have been/are in Lorna shore we've basically already had that
Yea that's basically the first three projects 😂
Lorna Grin
@@danger-wildman7xLorna’s grin
I would kill for a new single with Tom and Will!
yeah but you'd never crowd kill
@@GiantHairyNutsbut will is garbage compared to Tom. Or any other deathcore vocalist 😂
Unpopular opinion that granted will never work out because of rather obvious reasons but have Lorna Shore do a song with Tom and CJ. That vocal combo would be so cool!
@@Rcl237ok Tom is my favorite deathcore vocalist but holy crap that is the worst take I've ever seen lmao
@@Rcl237this is probably the worst comment i’ve ever seen
Why is it that sound techs can never figure out how to un-mute a mic when a guest singer goes on stage?
He was unmuted just a bit too quiet, I don't know if they checked and gain staged the mic with Will beforehand, seems like his vocals aren't as loud as Toms naturally, so if the sound guy just copied Toms settings onto another channel, of course Wills gonna be not as loud.
@@guacamole2402no i don’t think that tom setting … the mic was just not loud enought
Same reason they can't manage bass pollution I suppose.
ironically I saw this same thing at a Lorna Shore concert, had 3 people come out. 2 were perfect, the one in the middle no sound at all the entire time he performed on stage at all. I was like I shouldve known this was too good to be true. Sound guy mustve just been asleep. I seen a super super small show with sots recently and they did all their own sound stuff and lo and behold they were late to the fig David comes running on stage plugs in his own mic and it was flawless I was like well that was like 10secs without a soundguy at all 😂
@@guacamole2402they just need to turn his mic up bro
LOVED IT!!! Wish Will's mic would've been a bit turned up, but i get they're trying to highlight Tom. Solid performance all around tho! Would love to see a collab between them both :D
No its just poor sound production, why would you have a live feature and woulndt want to highlight it?
@@simonscherer2821 happens all the time. And festivals are notoriously shit with mixing.
I saw them both performing on jera on air and there was non of that
@@simonscherer2821 Funny that they did it to Will's mic. Every mic tech should do that his mic if he does guest vocals live
Tom barber and will Ramos are my favourite modern screamers and this is a dream come true for me to of heard them live together 😁
Beautiful harmony
Stage presence is immaculate thank you
Damn, two giants off Lorna Shore together. This is gold
Both of them is a deadly combo
These two need to collab more. I'd love to hear will guest on Darko.
Will's mic seemed to be muted...
Yes
I'm sorry that the microphone volume was quite low for Will. Because it sounds like he's weak.🤔 A perfect couple anyway! 🙏🤪
agreed! if that mic was turned up this performance would've been one for the books!
I hope they are good friends. I love their energy. They're both hilarious! I saw Chelsea Grin about 2 years ago, and I absolutely love the way Tom Barber dances to this music 😄
The first of december I'll go see Chelsea Grin supporting Dying Fetus, so keep your eyes open for another Chelsea Grin video!
A like and subscribe would be appriciated :)
this is why i love music
I swear Will screams with his mic off and you can still hear him LMAO
крутая моя любимая песня спели они круто спасибо 👍🤘
I love it when they do shit together!
eyy Will with Tom!! They should play Godmaker together
Will was announced as their singer for that line up, because of some reason I dont know, Lorna Shore was playing that festival as well.
Adam said recently that they dont want to play old stuff anymore, and they want to focus on playing new stuff since Immortal to the new one
@@alexr6913 Aww man. That's a shame cause they've made some gold stuff as well. But I get it, it's like a rebirth or smthin since their direction has changed.
@@Oryyyt They did play 'Recreant' tho, but thats a golden oldie, been listening to these guys since 2007 but this is the first time seeing them live, by the end of October I'll be going to Thy Art is Murder and Whitechapel so keep your eyes open
@@giftedamateur5591 hes talking about lorna shore not CG
I was there and it was fcking amazing! :D
great video great audio 👍👍
Band sounds great vocals not so much
2:50 Will’s sunglasses even fall off while headbanging
Tom will always be my preferred vocalist in LS but Will does do a killer job.
For real, they did dirty on him.
@@Gac3lanah, they done C.J. dirty, that album is still one of all time favorites from them, I loved Tom, but C.J. was an absolute *BEAST* and honestly I think he sounded better than Will.
Done Ramos dirty with the levels there
I have no idea how I forgot this happened, I can literally see myself in this video but I have absolutely no memory of this...I guess I hit my head too hard when the Lorna Shore crowd dropped me while crowdsurfing later that day or something
😂that's hilarious
1:21 tom forgets pablos not there to sing with him
If I saw them on stage together I think I would have pissed myself!
I didnt even know who Will Ramos was after looking him up afterwards :P
more power to you, boiz /,,/
You nearly can't hear Will 😂
I have such a big crush on Tom Barber. ❤
holy shit
Where was wills mic at?! I couldn't here him
ex lorna feat current lorna
Can't even hear Will, wasted.
Why are bass drops better on live show recordings than on actual tracks?
There are fewer people there trying to turn down the bass at live shows.
Will got the perfect clean technique & air flow control
While Tom has more gutterals & projection.
2 unique styles that complement each other well.
Sounds like Toms mic was also just way louder
Complement *
@@TheBorathon thank you for the correction. Don't know why my phone missed it.
Tom is up there with the best frontmen
Would be nice to be able to hear Will. Sound guy must not have known he was going out 😂
Man i hate that i missed their set at full force cause of a storm, motionless in white and jinjer too :(
Epic
🎉
i want tom to be featured in a new lorna song, for old times sake.
for some reason LS has never done features, even back in the old days
Sounds like Toms mic is just louder tbh
Toms vocals are naturally a lot louder than wills due to them using different techniques
Now we need CJ on there too. Imagine all 3 Lorna Shore vocalists in one song
hes a cuck though
No way these cowards from Lorna will invite CJ ever. They kicked him out from the band and forget about it like its smthng usual.
CJ loves getting kicked from bands. Everyone he's ever played with says he's a dickhead and a racist
@@Criticismo228 Cowards?! lol! From everything I’ve heard about CJ I don’t blame them for cutting him loose. From multiple SA allegations not just the one that got him kicked out of the band in the first place to him calling people n**** with the hard R, dude doesn’t sound like someone you should be defending
@@ViciouzCyclez Oh hector hernandez, youre so empathic for problems of people who wanna be insulted by jokes and words about their skin colour and narcissistic infantile ex-girls of CJ, the products of weinstein effect. I wont buy this shitty agenda ma boy, Im slav, we were slaves too, this is the origin of our name.
And if there’s something you dont like in your relationships, it’s not actually necessary to remain partners in your relationships, just leave :) Do not destruct your partner’s career and life. Btw CJ made decent statement. Your masculinity killed by agenda, hernandez 🥲
Where my boi Pablo Viveros at?
Why was will’s mic off? guy on the mixer really dropped the ball on that one.
It wasn't off, it just wasn't set correctly for Will. It was just set very low.
Sound technician did not do his job at ALL 🥲
the soundguy at that moment: oh shush wheres the fader for that mic again?!?!
Am i the only one thinking that will is waaay to quiet here? an also whats wrong with that crowd? I'd have screamed my lungs out if will popped on the stage out of nowhere
Excited to hear them for sure, more excited to not hear Pablo lol
Is it just me or does it sound like Wills microphone is off or super low? 😢
Mic Will Ramos :((((
Will entered at a wrong time :( did not study enough the song. Anyway it sound like he gave everything, but the mic low volume didn’t help
who are all these extra bozos on stage with cameras getting in the way? scram nerds!
I thought they were pretty weird as well. I assume it was for social media.........
i miss Pablo
SOUND ENGINEER massively disrespected will
Is he still in Chelsea grin? I thought they kicked him out after he didn't get the vax?
how about Darko with Will!
Couldn't even hear Will wtf. Tom B is a beast though)
Will Ramos: Will Ramos Ft. Will Ramos Ft. Will Ramos Ft. Will Ramos
They cut wills mic 😂
Jesse Leach back with Killswitch Engage featuring Howard Jones was better. They should really just stick together as dual vocalists for Killswitch.
Is there a sound engineer in the chat that can explain to me why they can't instantly turn up the mic of a singer when they realise that he's low volume like in this case for Will? I have witnessed this so many times and am everytime frustrated they don't "react"... so maybe there's a valid reason
I wonder the same thing.
I was stoked for this vid only to realize they robbed Will, bummer. Who knows, could have been good in the monitors? Maybe mic fault? Maybe sound booth asleep? All he could do is give his all.
Sound dudes messed up Will's levels... Or is it a L/R issue?
they should be boyfriends
I really wish the sound guys would do their job and push the guest vocalists mic to the front. So sick of seeing features and you can’t hear the fucking feature!!
Sound tech needs firing.
Pelo amor mano, passa o mic antes.
It fucks me up how every single time a featured artist comes on a set, their mics are never right and essentially makes their entire presence useless.
Chelsea Grin cover band 0 original members
Tom totally set him up on this ON PURPOSE since he stole Lorna Shore he made his mic SUPER QUIET after inviting him on stage LMAO.
nice one Tom
Sound engineer probably didnt have the level set for a vocalist not in the band.... can't really soundcheck for a random appearance.
Its losers like you who think its like that
🤨
BS, I saw them both performing on jera on air and there was non of that
@@devild4907 he just did that to gain his trust
Cant hear will at all, either his mic is fucked of tom has much louder vocals!
Don't see the why people like Will! Sorry there's nothing special about his vocals
Could not even hear will
Idk but tom is a pretty terrible to listen to vocalist
Ugh...
@niknocturnal shudders in ptsd
At least here there wasn't an awkward squat miss lol
lorna bore