Discharge: How the Band's Debut Record Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing United Punk & Metal
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Today we take a look at the legendary punk rock band Discharge who would do the unthinkable...united punk and metal fans. The band's debut record Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing was hugely influential and was even covered by band's like Metallica, Sepultura and Anthrax.
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What's going on my fellow rock n' rollers. Don't forget to smash the bell notification icon to be notified every time i put out a new video on my channel. To a lot of people punk rock’s peak lasted from the mid to the late 70’s and It seemed like punk rock was a flash in the pan, but something that’s often overlooked is that even long after punk rock was thought to be dead there was one punk band that would inspire countless other bands of varying genres who followed in their footsteps. Who am I talking about? Stay tuned out find out.
Today we are going to talking about the band Discharge. The band didn’t just inspire other punk bands, but they were hugely influential on the metal bands that would go on to dominate the 80’s and 90’s. It was the band’s debut record Hear nothing See Nothing Say nothing that would unite once sworn enemies, punk rockers and metal heads.
Influential metal musician Steve Von Till, frontman for the metal band Neurosis reflected on the influence of the band’s debut record saying
“I’ve realised how much I’ve been influenced by what I call ‘The Discharge haiku’. It’s like a strange style of poetry - these short images of war and political deception. Unlike their earlier records, most songs were four lines, tops, but they say so much. It makes it epic, and you can apply them to your own time.”
He would go on to say:
“I was into metal at the time,” “This was before I found punk. But when the punks started telling us metal guys that we should listen to this album, we were intrigued" he'd add.
Now Discharge would form in 1977 in the English town of Stoke on Trent, the same town where Guns N’ Roses guitarist Slash and Lemmy from Motorhead were born in. During the early days of the band no one thought the band would make such an impact on the punk and metal scene. Even by his own admission guitarist Tony ‘Bones’ Roberts would reveal how they were inspired by the bands who came before them and wanted to simply play music revealing to metal hammer “We Just listening to the clash and sex pistols and were having a go at doing that" he'd say.
Like pretty much every rock band Discharge went through a lot of lineup changes during their formative years. In addition to the lineup changes they would also release a number of straightforward singles and EP’s, but the band soon found a base with the small but loyal anarcho punk scene of the 1980’s.
Drummer Garry Maloney would reveal what was so exciting about the scene the band was involved in saying
“It was like a lifestyle that was different, exciting,” Likeminded people hanging out and going to gigs. It was brilliant. From my first show, seeing The Damned at Barbarella’s in Birmingham, to a few years later watching Black Flag soundcheck sitting on my flight case, I loved it all.”
Prior to recording their debut record the band would settle on a lineup consisting of the classic members of bassist Ryston Wainwright, drummer Gary Maloney, Anthony "Bones" Roberts playing guitar, and vocalist Kelvin "Cal" Morris.
As the band entered the studio to record their debut record, they had no clue they’d create the blueprint for bands like Metallica, Sepultura and Napalm Death. Bones would reveal in an interview “We really hit on something around that time,” “We had gone from sounding like a normal punk band into sounding like something else. It was all natural, though. We never tried to sound a certain way; we just started writing sounds about how we felt, and we felt like how that record sounded.”
Discharge would sign a record deal with local label Clay Records who also housed the other hugely influential punk band GBH. Since they were signed to an independent label the band wasn’t given much time in the studio and most songs on their debut album were done in one or two takes, but it didn’t matter. The results speak for themselves and Hear Nothing would combine elements of punk and metal.
The songs on the group's debut album shocked fans. The songs were bite sized pieces no longer than 2.5 minutes featuring the famous D-drum beat synonymous with punk and metal. The album tackled the horrors of war, capitalism, nihilism, paranoia, political deceptio
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More punk videos please! Crass has some stories that would make a good vid - like when they leaked an edited phone call between thatcher and Reagan and caused a big stink
Make one about their disaster of an album ;)
You should follow up with Discharge’s ill-advised plunge into full-on hair metal in 1986 with the abysmal “Grave New World” and the disastrous tour of North America that followed.
You haven’t lived until you see Cal screeching in falsetto, dressing like a dimestore version of Poison, doing a ludicrous duck-style walking back and forth across the stage while constantly wagging his finger!
The band named Death, they are from Detroit in the 70's
How has this channel not covered The Dead Kennedys yet. But continually covers lesser punk bands
Discharge and GBH. By far my favourite punk bands. That Hear Nothing album is fabulous.
That’s correct sir
All discharge albums with bones on guitar are 100% masterpieces ....
And Amebix
Definitely the album Hear Nothing and City Baby attacked by rats is the best... Motorhead influenced is present there...
Both bands changed the face of punk and metal for all time.
The likes of Discharge, Anti-Cimex, Totalirar, Disclose and GISM have a special place in my heart !
Fuck yeah! Every if the mentioned bands should have a video of their own.
disclose rules
Me too, and Amebix
I always felt that Motorhead started the bridge between Metal and Punk before anyone.
And you’d be correct sir, I would say the pink fairies, hawkwind ,dictators and stooges had a part as progenitors of both genres also
Lots of punk bands didnt listen to motorhead or would give them the chance. Discharge allowed that to be known it was okay. Plus lots of newer metal heads get into punk because of discharge
@@histatimaniples Man I don't know about that. I'm 51 years old and remember when all of this started between the punk rockers and metal heads and I know for a fact that it was cool for punks and metal heads to have a a Motorhead patch on their jackets. But that's just from my experience. Not taking anything away from Discharge at all. I was a metal head but liked punk as well. I also took a lot of shit from my metal head friends for buying the albums and getting into it considering that G.B.H changed my life just as much as Venom did. Of course those same guys got into punk a few years later. lol
@@boneheded2819 well, motorhead technically are a hard rock or just rock n roll band. Their words. Metal kinda was iron maiden/ Judas priest. What years are you referring too? Venom is clearly influenced by discharge. So is gbh
Ed Mitchell for sure .
I was 15 when I brought that LP, and was repeatedly told to ' Turn that shit down' by my family. I loved it then and (40 years later) still love it now !!!
I would blast that shit in my car and normies would be triggered and I would love it 😎
When I first played Hear Nothing... in 82 my father said, "sounds like a dog barking". I opened the windows once in 81 as I played Why ep/lp and had a neighbor staring at the window as he was driving back and forth in his car I guess he couldn't believe what he was hearing since it was 81 or 82.
Turn that shit down!
Discharge was and still is my favorite band from this era and a big influence on my playing. I saw them twice in the 80s in L.A. and played a gig with them in 86. When we (Final Conflict) played with them they were in their metal phase and it didn't go over too well with the crowd. I still listen to them now in 2020. Their lyrics also opened my eyes to the problems in the world and the need for the downtrodden to have voice.
Dude, your in final conflict?
you guys are an incredible band too seen ya many times.
@@massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002 I was 84-86.
Final Conflict were a indeed a great band. Good memories!
Dig FC
Stoke on Trent is my hometown ! Can’t believe your doing a video on DISCHARGE ! 🤘
@ jack beardsall awesome I'm from stoke on Trent too I lived in Norton for most of my life discharge answered a lot of questions that no one would answer also in the same breath put questions forward 🤘🤘🤘🤘
my hometown as well man! saw discharge at the underground last december
Not my hometown but I saw the at Huddersfield in 1980 👳 sick band .
Where is Calvin ?
I can’t believe you’re covering Discharge. Like, that’s insane to me. Fuck yes!
as soon as I heard discharge I loved there sound
Discharge only had a 2 year window of greatness that was between 80'-82' after that they went downhill fast. Then they picked up again in 02'
But in those golden 2 years they did invent extreme music.......
@@avelinosilvadias 79-85
It was always the trendy, casual music listeners whom always thought of "sex pistols" as the golden age of "punk" when referring to the old punk period. I never did or do, that's a joke. The pistols were just a puff of smoke compared to Discharge, Black Flag, FEAR, The Exploited, Dead Kennedys; etc.
And yeah, back in 1984 when I was a very young teen, I used to hear the hell out of my Discharge 7" with the songs "Realities of War", "They Declare It"; etc. , eventually buying their WHY? and the Never Again albums. I still listen to them.
And when people say: "Pistols started punk". No they didn't. John Lydon saw the Ramones live in NY before the birth of the pistols. People forget about the Weirdos and all these other bands who came first. And Iggy Pop, New York Dolls' sounds were only prototypes for what the Ramones would start up.
@A D
What!?!?!
Yeah! The Weirdo's! So under rated.
The balls for the Sex Pistols to call the NY Dolls "an imitation from New York" when they came out years after The Dolls
Not sure how the Ramones and the Sex Pistols ever got put in the same boat? They sound NOTHING alike.
Well said, sir.
Well done for this, Discharge deserve more respect , a very influential band. You might consider doing a story on the British band"Leatherace" especially on their album "Mush" a real gem
When I was a kid my friend played Discharge all the time. And I did enjoy them but, I thought I was hearing bits of Metallica in their songs. Particularly bits from the kill em all album. Didn't realize at the time it was the other way around.
Lol. Thats awsome
I'm 50 now and I still play alot! Never 2 old my friends...
@@Utubesux man I'm rock and roll till the day I die.
Kill them all. Is literally discharge, gbh and the misfits
@@histatimaniples it's like a misfits,gbh discharge,motorhead and diamond head worship sort of album lol no wonder I love it
Greatest punk album ever.
Punk kids now still influenced by them
I sure am
Can confirm
Like me
For sure true. In grind we crust
Of course, well I hope so... ?? In 81- 82 It was Discharge that I/we loved, same with Motorhead actually.. Good on the kids because Discharge are still playing today.
Discharge opened the door for a lot of american bands. After their US tour in 80's new bands arisen like mushrooms after the rain.
Lot of east coast hard core in a byproduct of discharge
One of the greatest bands of all time.
Excellent job and informative as ever.Thank you.
The D beat is what lead to blast beats. Without that, there’s a lot of grind and death metal and so on that wouldn’t exist. Eventually it would of happened anyways, but it’s cool to track it all the way back to Discharge.
The influence of the D-beat cannot be overstated lol One of the most influential bands I can think of as far as their overall impact on the multiple genres and subgenres that would come later.
Discharge are a hard core band. D-beat. Is something referred to the bands they Influenced
I've still got the first single, original pressing. But I saw these guys alot, in Hanley, at John's Cafe. Good times 😎
This is in my top 5 favorite punk bands Tezz Roberts moved to Chicago in the mid to late 90s we called him Terry Bones me and my buddies hung out with him does were some of the greatest time's from what I can remember he had a crib right next to the tattoo factory practically lived there the crazy debauchery that went down in that place he also had a band called broken bones check them out the number of bands he played with is unbelievable, thanks for bringing back some great memories, hands down best rock stories your killing it.
Amebix is overlooked as well
Considering they spoke a foreign language ( Brummy ) they play all over the U.K
Black Flag, Bad Brains and Void also deserve credit for bringing punk and metal together.
Black Flag was my first guess on this when hinted last week.
GBH too.
"HNSNSN" was a monster record upon release, though, and none of those bands you just mentioned could hold a candle to it at the time, I'm willing to bet. The sound of "Damaged" is very thin and sparse, Bad Brains put out their inconsistent ROIR tape with all the reggae on it, and Void put out that split release with THE FAITH, so, it wasn't even their own thing. Again, personally, HNSNSN mops up every debut album by all the band's you just mentioned.
@@kabukikommandofourthworld5266 What a pretentious reply. I didn't say "OMG these bands are sooooo much better than Discharge". I was merely giving them a shoutout. And why are you putting Damaged in quotations?
Discharge hnsnsn influenced everything that came out after. You even hear it’s influence on the misfits earth ad
Without a doubt , the greatest UK hardcore band of all time . And the most copied worlwide
Exactly. I've always considered Discharge a hardcore band. What they played in the early 80s went far beyond punk rock
@@FranciscoSilva-mk9tu they've always been a hardcore act. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.
there is just something special about this era 1982. GBH - city baby attacked by rats, motorhead - iron fist, venom - black metal, Discharge - hear nothing see nothing say nothing . so
Uk/82 the best 😎
Discharge influenced everyone you mentioned
For me the 12" WHY that came before Hear Nothing was what grabbed me. It was a 12" 45, so technically an EP, but they had put out several 7" EPs before that, so the full 12" size of WHY seemed different then. I was an LA punk kid at the time and we had a huge scene and lots of the best bands ever. But the power of Discharge was different and heavier than the LA records (Germs GI being among the best punk records ever to me, but not even close to the heaviness of Discharge. Was a different thing). That, plus the spiky top, leather and studs look were so extreme that they grabbed a lot of us and moved the center of gravity for Punk from LA to the UK 82 thing. Starting around then, standing around front or drinking in the alley behind Poseur (a punk store on Melrose in Hollywood before the street was fashion trend central) on any weekend would be 30-50 spiky top, painted and studded leather jacketed kids, all with Discharge somewhere on our jackets. They were the godhead at that time. Hear Nothing did take it to another level with better production and the sound of a trillion angry bees flying through an extended nuclear explosion.
They were also proto death?
Hear nothing, see nothing, say nothing will forever be one of the rawest albums. It’s pure heavy and fast adrenaline and energy the entire way through. Long live Discharge
More on Discharge would be great.
Discharge rules !!!!
D-BEAT!!!
Saw them in 83 in Los Angeles, the power of this UK band was different from all the S California bands I had seen before. Cal was a showman for the ages and the ferocity of the band was unrivaled. Imagine several thousand punks in a swarming mass of arms, fists and boots. Seen hundreds of bands in my lifetime but this was the greatest show I ever attended
I'm not even 30 seconds into this video and your opening remarks couldn't have hit the nail on the head any harder. Spot on buddy. Pretty much all thru highschool, my friends who diehard metalheads would constantly give me shit for being punk etc etc. Then finally the day arrived I pulled into the school parking lot blasting "hear nothing see nothing say nothing"! And almost immediately my few metalhead friends came over along with a good few I despised. Asking me what band is that, that sounded so metal blah blah blah. Their faces were priceless when I revealed that the band is discharge and they're a punk band.
Turn that shit down!
I heard 'Never Again' on the John Peel Radio 1 show.... Circa 1982,... I just remember turning to my mate who was into Gary Numan at the time and saying: "This is Punk meets Metal.... This is for me!" Discharge then went on to influence a Tidal Wave of different bands and create what is now known as D-Beat!....Respect!
Why did the same not last longer say 1982-1984 or did it become the whole Thrash Metal or Crust Punk thing.
Saw them play Northampton, summer 1980. About 50 people at the gig. Never knew they'd be so influential
What about the Plasmatics? They united Punk and Metal back in the late 1970's and early 80's.
not as angry
Plasmatics and Motorhead weren't hardcore like Discharge. Hear nothing See nothing Say nothing has alot of metal guitar leads BUT the song Protest and Survive is (almost 100%) all metal guitar, this track in 1982 was truly the first hardcore song that (almost 100%) completely crossed over into pure hardcore metal that allowed thrash, grind and death metal to follow.
Yeah but they sucked
@@pauliescott Ok.
@@pauliescott if you're talking about the plasmatics I agree, but she had an easy on the eye chest which if I'm right she wasn't afraid of showing off. Not enough of a reason to go and see the band for me
Hard to imagine now, but we didnt have internet back in the day. So big thanks to Anthrax "Attack of the Killer Bs" for letting me discover Discharge. PROTEST AND SURVIVE!!!
The song Protest and Survive is (almost 100%) all metal guitar, this track in 1982 by Discharge was truly the first hardcore song that (almost 100%) completely crossed over into pure hardcore metal that influenced grind and death metal that followed.
@@domicdom2483 True that.....to this day I still put Discharges album as a point of origin for all extreme music (thrash, death, grind, and maybe some black metal).
Why/ Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing = The building blocks of brutality and speed that lead to extreme metal/ thrash/ black/ death/ grindcore metal.
Doesn't even mention the punk bands discharge influenced
Literally everyone one. Even established bands were influenced by them. Everyone had to step it up after that album. That's why thrash was born the year after
Bones is a good man. Know him for a spell now. Cheers...🍻
Discharge is special. Love them or hate them, they were different.
Something old is new if someone does some exploring. Very good. Talking about bridging Metal fans with Punks how about doing one on Killing Joke? It's overdue.
How about doing on on killingbjoke influence on crust punk? KJ influence on antisect and amebix is blatant to my ears.
Terry Roberts' True Story would be a cool one - but you won't cover it in 5 minutes! Tezz has written so many of the epic songs that us (1980s) punks call anthemic; particularly his time in Broken Bones. His journey starting with Discharge to UK Subs, Broken Bones, The Business, GBH ... loads of others, and back to Discharge is the tale of a Legend.
Hmmm , you missed out the biggest band he was in 'Ministry'. I'd wait till gigs start again , as at the moment Rainy fired Tezz for his right wing rant he did on FB. Time will tell
@@rabfallon4507 You engineered & produced my favourite EP - Broken Bones / Trader In Death ... I know Tezz reasonably well. He's said and done some dumb ass shit, I know that. He's the talent behind a lot of my favourite tunes.
Tezz only played drums on the first 3 Discharge singles over the span of a year, but he likes taking credit for all of it 😆
And everyone that actually knows Tezz knows not to believe half of what comes out of his mouth, the guy is a complete narcissist obsessed with taking credit for things he didn't even write... That bloke is a pathological liar and a thief
Protest and survive, it's up to us
A video on Rozz Williams or Christian Death would be awesome
Good shout.
Saw today's lineup of CD in Leeds last year was probably not even 30 people in the audience, great show.
Eva O and the SuperHeroines too
Great video again
thanks
FINALLY GETTING PROPS!!!! ALMIGHTY DISCHARGE!
Thx 4 dis vdo (!!!)
"How the Band's Debut Record ..." Uh, that was not the band's debut record. They had 4 e.p's and one 12" mini album out before HNSNSN,. And IMO their ep Fight Back is just as powerful as the album.
why is a lot rawer than hnsnsn
If any of you guys get a chance to see them, take it, they still rule
I first heard of them ~20 years ago Max Cavalera put them on his top 10 albums for Rolling Stone.
It is a timeless album. A true clasic.
Please do more punk videos!
And then the 900 D Beat bands.
tezz is one of the few things i miss about stoke. top guy. the album sounds how stoke feels
Hear Nothing See Nothing... a truly timeless classic
My friend used to go to sleep to Discharge.
I said "How can you sleep to that?" He said "easy, it's all one volume."
I love how almost every single video about a d-beat or crust band mentions Motörhead
I would love to hear your take on MTV's buzzworthy CD from the early 90s not only how it captures that era but also the fact that all those bands got big because of one CD and the power MTV had
Yep we must have our thinks shared - so cool delivered. I still FTS ❤.
I met Bones at a Broken Bones show, he saw my Discharge shirt and gave me a big ol hug. Cool as fuck
Bones kissed my discharge tattoo on my arm lol about 7 years ago😉
I would say GBH and English Dogs did more to unite thrash and hardcore than Discharge did. oh and Broken Bones and Chaos UK.
Broken Bones, baby! Saw them at British Invasion in San Bernardino, CA in 2005. Their set got broken up by a riot! Good times!
Great bands, lots of people don't know about em. I'm always singing the praises of English Dogs.
@@Fafafohi I was there too
You'd be correct, if gbh and agnostic front werent heavily influenced by discharge lol
vercingetorix Really??? Crazy, huh?! Some bone heads showed up and got killed, right?
'In defence of our future' was sadly responsible for the death of many many speakers, sadly many many years ago.
St. Anger was a discharge tribute album
Kingsland Music Productions Inc think you might be wrong about that none of the songs on that album are discharge songs
@@carystorm3280 i think what he means is the raw garage style sound of the album
Listen to the last min and a half of 'all within my hands' from st anger and tell me thats not a heads up for discharge.
Hetfield was a big discharge fan, but the covers they did on the garage album of 2 discharge songs were shit😱 shouldn't of covered them.
Although it benefitted discharge as they got royalties from it 🙂
i sat at a table and drank a beer with Cal before their show sometime in 1982
Protest and survive🤘
DISCHARGE FOREVER X
Q And Children A And Children. Awesomeness x 1000
legendary album.
Umm, Dbeat influenced more than just metal in the '90s. Just ask Dinosaur Jr.
J Sicil 😎👍
Youd be surprised to know how much in turn Dinosaur Jr. then influenced the death metal genre. Death metal may have never made the jump to America as early as it did if it wasnt for Dino Jr.
D-Beat heavily influenced crust punk and even black metal. Listen to From by Behemoth
@@davidisaacstephens6647 and then black metal somehow influences shoegaze and ambient/noise. The way genres twist and get interpreted is so damn cool.
@@palestalemale8831 I know, it is. Not a huge fan of that ambient black metal though.
40 years and still so influential, I just hope kids in the next 40 years will have the balls to listen to Discharge
I met Steve Bon Till Many years ago after a show. He walked up to our table looked a few tables over at his bandmates looked at ours and then sat down.. We had a good conversation for well over an hour. I have heard half a dozen or so stories just like that because that's who he is. Really cool to hear his name come up 1st in this one
Motorhead was The band that drew metalheads and punks together. This isnt to belittle Discharge, Disorder or Chaos UK or the other D Beat bands.
totally hear the influence on Slayer
Slayer, venom, Celtic frost.
Very cool that you do stories on bands that might be lesser known!
Original discharge gigs at the 100 club were nuts..youd end up in the drum kit
Discharge, GBH, Varukers, Chaos U.K. and Disorder!!!!! These are my top five bands, the first early U.K. Hardcore punk bands.
There killer. 😀👍🤘🎸
A lot of crusties are happy for this video.
Great shit like G.B.H.
Great record
Also how about Agnostic Front or Fang the singers in those bands Roger Miret and Fangs Sam McBride very interesting stories about those two, Favorite Discharge song drunk with power." Up the punk's"
hell yeah!
You should do a video about Disorder (specifically their album Perdition).
Especially on the vocals
Look up Discharge live at the farm 1986 on UA-cam. I was at that show.the band had gone all Poison glam metal and followed DRI/Possessed/Attitude Adjustment and the crowd ate them alive. It was UGLY!
Drugs suck lol
Ultra relevant again.
Discharge had a big following from leicester 1980 we followed them early days
Discgarge was one if the few bands whose logo could bee seen on the punks and a metal heads leather jackets...
Far Beyond Metal 💥
Grave new world.....
DBeat will never die
Also can't forget about The Exploited
Who became hardcore after hearing discharge lol
One of the first records I ever owned.
I was listening to discharge and this was on the next list lol
In Australia if people listened to Hawkwind in 1974, Motorhead started to influence Australia. Then when punk became global (Aussie band the Saints 1976 ," im Stranded"). Aussie hard core punks started to listen to Discharge, Anti Knowwhere league and Oi. Punk/metal for ever. Oi Oi Oi ✌️🤘🏴🇦🇺
How did that band "Jody Foster's Army" get their name?
I think it's because the guy who shot Ronald Reagan said he did it for or because of Jody Foster for some reason.
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No mention of Cal's pathetic attempt to make Discharge into a poor man's Led Zeppelin, with that Grave New World shit. Some friends of mine saw them at the Klub Foot in 1986, and they were bottled off the stage. They lost a lot of fans, and gained no new ones. I once met a straight down the line rock chick from Stoke on Trent, and she had never even heard of Discharge. She was the audience Cal was trying to appeal to, and not even the ones in their home town were interested.
You mention GBH. Yes, saw them support Discharge a few times in 1981 at Birmingham Cedar Club.
I am glad Discharge reformed and got back to what they are doing best - making hardcore brickwall Punk Rock.
Broken Bones were fucking great as well. Saw them blow the UK Subs off the stage in October 1983 at Birmingham Tin Can Club.
Cockney Rejects tried to go metal around the same time
Don't forget The MISFITS, too!
Who would of thought it discharge getting a docu on them🙂 times have changed for sure.....
They deserve a proper documentary and book though. I've seen books and documentaryiesnon way less influencial bands.
2:49 is not Bones, it's Tezz...and the drummer is not called 'Jerry'.
Yeah Tezz just stole his brother's name when he moved to America and started calling himself "Terry Bones" 🤔
The current West Coast (California, Oregon, Washington, and Arizona) punk scene is still heavily influenced by Discharge and other d-beat bands.