Youre right. the lore can be bought at fabernum or meduli at the Armicustos lib and Ordo Rutorum vendor. this is the one at the fabernum tower or at the meduli tower.
It's also a good idea to go to Meduli and mine Saburra so you can raise your furnace fabricula and refining skills to 100 making junk like messing and bron. Your going to have lots of time while you read all those books.
Thank you so much for the amazing videos! They are so helpful!!! Also thanks for including the skills and the reminder to read all of those books first!
Hey Wolf I watched one of your videos about Saburra and I used the Natorous in MK and I used the website you provided to help calculate what Catalyst I would need for bleckblende, I used 417 rock oil with 10000 bleckblende and got nothing in Return was I missing a skill or something cause I had every skill that is required except advanced ore extraction but I do not think I need that, what went wrong? And why is there no information in game telling me what I need for the extraction process or a book at least like a manuel telling me what I need or what I need to do?
Yeah ther eis sadly no ingame info, But I guess you issed a skill I mean you throwed it into the natorus, Check each skill and the skills over it. Often people really missed one skill in the whole extraction chain xD its sadly not so easy.
Can you make a video with the pros and cons of every alloy/rock that should be used for armor / weapons. For example. T1 = flakestone weapons, low durability, t1.5 jadite, ext for weapons pro/cons and then also for armor
@@WolfszeitYT so what do you do in the mean time waiting for those books? Cause that’s a lot of time in books. I’m new to the game so I’m just trying to get info
@@brandonheadbird3943 When you make steel for example you need the steel skill if you have your steel skill on 10 than you need to make for example 200000 grain steel into steel to get to level 100 steel. And you waste alot of materials that way. Because you not getting out alot of steel. But if you read the steel bock to 70 and than make 200000 grain steel into steel than you will have much more steel in the end. So you have not wasted so much material.
First off, thank you so much for all the work you do. 2nd, is it possible to max out all the weaponsmithing (I already have) AND have the required lores & extractor points? At first glance, it seems it's not possible.
if you set the weapon smith on 70 than maybe, but if you only want to amke steel than it works tungsteel and weapon crafting with 70 is a maybe im not sure but it could work. because tungsteel is 700 primaries.
I dont know wich char you have and how int but if you get the skillpoints right it you should be able to make an armor aswell. But steel and armor no problem. tungstell and armor crafter difficult but doable I man the human got 50 extra proffesion points and witht he int bonus and stuff you could go up another 60 points compared to the current build. But better go to mortaldata select the skills you really really need maybe you dont evne need the 50 points extra. depends on you int skill bonus.
@@WolfszeitYT oh thnak you i make Oghmir .... 121str 87 dex 134 con have 10 int 13 psyche, and im new in this game play few days but dont know how much points needed for craft max armor probably Mercenary plate with steel or tungsteel or better ores ? and is possible or not, adn when i lookt at your video probably dont have enough points for this ......Or can you tell me what is best with armor crafting profession maybe as you say only armor + steel ? and tungsteel um maybe must buy on Auction ........ its some joke for that when armor crafter or weapon crafter cant make armors or weapons with max quality and mine material for this ........or its better create another account and take there onlz mining material and made tungsteel and other ores there ?
If I want to just refine Tungsteel, will I have reduced yield if I do not have lore with Lupium? (in case I just buy the Lupium to refine it into tung)
@WolfszeitYT wow that's a lot of mining. My original calculations told me 70, so I mined 70. Then i redid the math and realized how wrong I was. Math is hard!
u need 5000 lupium, which requires 2 stacks of waterstone, which requires 22 stacks of amarantum, which requires 250 stacks of granum if say u were to buy these stacks from the market instead of mining it, at 10 gold a stack you would need 2500 gold which would be more expensive than just buying tungsteel from the market so yea .. extremely impossible to make tungsteel as a solo player AND inefficient to craft it
Mate I have barely any craft points left to craft one type of wep and armor if I spend all my points here. What good is it if I cant get my dopamine by crafting my own shit.
@@WolfszeitYT Its soooo frustrating man. I was min max and decided to completely abondon mammals lore, those were my last 100 points I could release. I dont need furs anymore, less taming chance yes but I will focus on steel now I thought to get my waterstone lore going. Your fabricula was the final nail in the coffin. I cant do it man. The next points I have to release are actualy my only heavy weapon recipe or armor. This is insane.
What am I even talking about, I do need furs for padding, guard fur is very good option for that, but yea fuck it. This game gets me from behind without any rubber. Its not like I have different weapons to craft, No I absolutely min maxed to one type of weapon 2h (sword), and one type armor. Something went completely wrong in desgin here.
@@rickyismyuncle4485 Yeah but that keep the ingame economy. i mena if everyone could make the whole euip you need than nearly noone would slel or buy stuff xD But I know what you ment sometimes it just feels unfair
@@WolfszeitYT I mean Im still missing like half the shit plus all other type of weapons and armors, bows as well. But there is some truth in your comment for sure. I try to be a solo self sufficient player and steel is as far as I can go. Im going to move away from Fab to Tindrem solely because of attractor. The only thing I cant self suffice is pet armor or bags, luckily those are the cheapest parts. You gotta give some and take some I guess. There is alot of bs in this game but its soooo good. Anyway good luck to your channel.
If you use fumming salt as catalyst you dont need the lore for that, if you extract something and fuming salt should get ouf that than you need the lore.
@@WolfszeitYT thanks dude I’ve been holding off on my lupium production because I can’t find the dissolvents book anywhere. Just tested some and we’re good!
i have 1200 points, all you showed is little less than 900 points, plate armour crafting needs 396 points = i dont have enough point to craft tungsteel armour on one character around 80-90 points short of making this
Why are you telling people to crusher the granum when an attractor is better for blood ore? I know most places don't have one but it's worth at least mentioning...
Because you need a lot of lupium to make tungsteel. Lupium is refined from waterstone, which is refined from amaranthum which you get absolutely zero of when you use the attractor.
Whyyyy do you need alchemy, fucking whyyy. Why just material refinement take up so much primary points ffs... I made a "blacksmith" char thinking i could provide mats for my weapon making, but i cant fit weapon smithing and material refinement in... so bullshit
All the refining in MO2 is pure madness. 😭😵💫😵💫😕👎 Same for Alchemy and cooking. Maybe the most overcomplicated game.. and all without any help or tutorial by SV. Not even adding an NPC vendor for basic books recepies you can buy. In the "tutorial" you say i wanna understand armour crafting. Tutor: "here you are!" And then unlock your skill without saying anything. And with all those everything has fantasy names (even wood and flowers) so you cannot even process logically what Is Better or not; because in any game there is a logic based on IRL behind, like "if i create a bronze sword It Will have a lesser durability than an iron sword. An Iron sword Will give less durability than a Steel sword" etc .. but here in MO2 there is no bronze , no iron no anything!! Only "Granum, coprum, tephra" that Will give you "blek, pig iron, Blood ore, calx".... A madness of processes without any logical mean for someome who is a noob or don't play since years. They overcomplicated anything.
yeah thats true, many struggle at the extraction/refining system. Yes a litttle bit more logic would be awesome especially with the durability of stuff. And also maybe faster rock collection or something like that. ALchemy is very complicated and cooking aswell compared to extraction. But these are okay in my opnion they are ment to be complicated to generate thousends of possiblities to make a potion or a perfect food.
@@WolfszeitYT yess i agree, but they should at least add some basic recepies vendors in-game. Not advanced stuff, just some basic guidebook that show images & help you enter in this world logic. It's not possible that the knowledge of things 90% of the time is outside the game or in private hands (like fan-based Google sites or your Channel) or even only whispered or hidden by veterans.
I know it seems like a lot but adding a book lord and locations to your video would be super cool
Youre right. the lore can be bought at fabernum or meduli at the Armicustos lib and Ordo Rutorum vendor. this is the one at the fabernum tower or at the meduli tower.
It's also a good idea to go to Meduli and mine Saburra so you can raise your furnace fabricula and refining skills to 100 making junk like messing and bron. Your going to have lots of time while you read all those books.
Thank you so much for the amazing videos! They are so helpful!!! Also thanks for including the skills and the reminder to read all of those books first!
thanks a lot mr youtube , that what i was looking to find out :) weeeeeesaur friend
amazing work speznat. I pride you man. you are ICH legend!
Thanks man I try my best xD
Thank you for your hard work, appreciate your content! 😎
THANKS FOR THE AMAZING VIDS!!!
Hey Wolf I watched one of your videos about Saburra and I used the Natorous in MK and I used the website you provided to help calculate what Catalyst I would need for bleckblende, I used 417 rock oil with 10000 bleckblende and got nothing in Return was I missing a skill or something cause I had every skill that is required except advanced ore extraction but I do not think I need that, what went wrong? And why is there no information in game telling me what I need for the extraction process or a book at least like a manuel telling me what I need or what I need to do?
Yeah ther eis sadly no ingame info, But I guess you issed a skill I mean you throwed it into the natorus, Check each skill and the skills over it. Often people really missed one skill in the whole extraction chain xD its sadly not so easy.
Hey wolf I am just wondering what catalyst I need to use so I can get more amarantum in the grinder,.
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Nice Tutorial 👍
you don't need alchemical dissolvent fuming salt lore to get more lupium with using Fuming salt as catalayst??
Can you make a video with the pros and cons of every alloy/rock that should be used for armor / weapons. For example. T1 = flakestone weapons, low durability, t1.5 jadite, ext for weapons pro/cons and then also for armor
sure I wil write it on my todo list xD thanks for the suggestions.
Fuming salts isnt sold by the vendor in Mon Ki, not sure about elsewhere. Also where can you learn waterstone and lupium?
at the extraction librarian there is for example one in Meduli/Jungle Camp/Tindrem.
@@WolfszeitYT the extraction librarian in MonKi does not, I'll check bontu next
@@WolfszeitYT Utility Vendor sells the Fueming salf.
What do you mean by “have all the skills” isn’t the best way to level them is to just craft?
you can but you will waste alot of materials better read all the books to the end. otherwise you will waste thousends of gold leveling the skills up.
@@WolfszeitYT so what do you do in the mean time waiting for those books? Cause that’s a lot of time in books. I’m new to the game so I’m just trying to get info
@@brandonheadbird3943 When you make steel for example you need the steel skill if you have your steel skill on 10 than you need to make for example 200000 grain steel into steel to get to level 100 steel. And you waste alot of materials that way. Because you not getting out alot of steel. But if you read the steel bock to 70 and than make 200000 grain steel into steel than you will have much more steel in the end. So you have not wasted so much material.
@@WolfszeitYT I gotcha
First off, thank you so much for all the work you do. 2nd, is it possible to max out all the weaponsmithing (I already have) AND have the required lores & extractor points? At first glance, it seems it's not possible.
if you set the weapon smith on 70 than maybe, but if you only want to amke steel than it works tungsteel and weapon crafting with 70 is a maybe im not sure but it could work. because tungsteel is 700 primaries.
Du bist so kaputt 🤣🤘🏼. Great explanation 💪🏼
please is possible have this tugnsteel, steel and armor crafting platte mercenary ??????? is enough points for that ? or is shitty and not ?
I dont know wich char you have and how int but if you get the skillpoints right it you should be able to make an armor aswell. But steel and armor no problem. tungstell and armor crafter difficult but doable I man the human got 50 extra proffesion points and witht he int bonus and stuff you could go up another 60 points compared to the current build. But better go to mortaldata select the skills you really really need maybe you dont evne need the 50 points extra. depends on you int skill bonus.
And when the veteran skill system comes in a few months or years than you will have an additional 100 points.
@@WolfszeitYT oh thnak you i make Oghmir .... 121str 87 dex 134 con have 10 int 13 psyche, and im new in this game play few days but dont know how much points needed for craft max armor probably Mercenary plate with steel or tungsteel or better ores ? and is possible or not, adn when i lookt at your video probably dont have enough points for this ......Or can you tell me what is best with armor crafting profession maybe as you say only armor + steel ? and tungsteel um maybe must buy on Auction ........ its some joke for that when armor crafter or weapon crafter cant make armors or weapons with max quality and mine material for this ........or its better create another account and take there onlz mining material and made tungsteel and other ores there ?
If I want to just refine Tungsteel, will I have reduced yield if I do not have lore with Lupium? (in case I just buy the Lupium to refine it into tung)
for refining I sadly dont know but you can try it out with 100 or with 1000 and test it if it is reduced yield.
Cheers
do i need the fuming salt lore?
no
Where can I get that ore chart you showed?
Stuff like this is always linked in the description: wolfszeit.online/extra/extraction/
@@WolfszeitYT my apologies. I thought I had looked there but must have overlooked it or thought I did and forgot.
no problem xD I sometimes dont see stuff all the time nearly every moring im searching my car keys and my wallet xD
I tried to do the math... does it seem right that it takes over 300 stacks of granum to make 1 stack of tungsteel?
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it depends i guess but 230 it was or so. if you wanna make tungsteel better mine tephra.
@WolfszeitYT wow that's a lot of mining. My original calculations told me 70, so I mined 70. Then i redid the math and realized how wrong I was. Math is hard!
Good work friend
Wolf how do I get the most amount of amarantum and what catalyst do I need?
if you crusher your grnaum to amarantum you dont use a catalyst there is not catalyst for that.
@@WolfszeitYT Do I get more amarantum if I use the grinder?
@@williamlarocque6338 same catalyst does nothing.
u need 5000 lupium, which requires 2 stacks of waterstone, which requires 22 stacks of amarantum, which requires 250 stacks of granum
if say u were to buy these stacks from the market instead of mining it, at 10 gold a stack you would need 2500 gold which would be more expensive than just buying tungsteel from the market
so yea .. extremely impossible to make tungsteel as a solo player AND inefficient to craft it
thanks for the calculation :)
Wolf, are you sure we need Advanced Ore extraction?
For the waterstone yes.
idk what I'm doing wrong I have 100 and I use the right amounts and I get out like 800 not like 4000 or anything from any exstracon guide
Sounds like one skill is missing. Hard to pinpoint wich its ist. Better chekc your whole tree again.
Mate I have barely any craft points left to craft one type of wep and armor if I spend all my points here. What good is it if I cant get my dopamine by crafting my own shit.
maybe with the upcoming veteran system you will get additional 100 skill points. But I dont know when this will come :(
@@WolfszeitYT
Its soooo frustrating man. I was min max and decided to completely abondon mammals lore, those were my last 100 points I could release. I dont need furs anymore, less taming chance yes but I will focus on steel now I thought to get my waterstone lore going. Your fabricula was the final nail in the coffin. I cant do it man. The next points I have to release are actualy my only heavy weapon recipe or armor. This is insane.
What am I even talking about, I do need furs for padding, guard fur is very good option for that, but yea fuck it. This game gets me from behind without any rubber. Its not like I have different weapons to craft, No I absolutely min maxed to one type of weapon 2h (sword), and one type armor. Something went completely wrong in desgin here.
@@rickyismyuncle4485 Yeah but that keep the ingame economy. i mena if everyone could make the whole euip you need than nearly noone would slel or buy stuff xD But I know what you ment sometimes it just feels unfair
@@WolfszeitYT
I mean Im still missing like half the shit plus all other type of weapons and armors, bows as well. But there is some truth in your comment for sure. I try to be a solo self sufficient player and steel is as far as I can go. Im going to move away from Fab to Tindrem solely because of attractor. The only thing I cant self suffice is pet armor or bags, luckily those are the cheapest parts.
You gotta give some and take some I guess. There is alot of bs in this game but its soooo good. Anyway good luck to your channel.
Do you need lore in fuming salt for it to yield anything? I can't find the alchemical dissolvent book or any way to level it by action.
If you use fumming salt as catalyst you dont need the lore for that, if you extract something and fuming salt should get ouf that than you need the lore.
@@WolfszeitYT thanks dude I’ve been holding off on my lupium production because I can’t find the dissolvents book anywhere. Just tested some and we’re good!
@@cheechchickens1854 You cna buy salt and cook that I guess than you learn the skill. I guess that is how I did that not sure. I hope it helps.
@@WolfszeitYT I probably will do that for the hell of it. Didn’t think to cook salt for the skill
NA player here. Public education says I _won't_ be reading no books..
Observed clearly by the double negative
i have 1200 points, all you showed is little less than 900 points,
plate armour crafting needs 396 points = i dont have enough point to craft tungsteel armour on one character
around 80-90 points short of making this
Why are you telling people to crusher the granum when an attractor is better for blood ore? I know most places don't have one but it's worth at least mentioning...
Because you need a lot of lupium to make tungsteel. Lupium is refined from waterstone, which is refined from amaranthum which you get absolutely zero of when you use the attractor.
@@dangerfloof3078 Ah, right, that makes sense... I'm so used to making steel I forgot you actually wanted the "side products" for this
Whyyyy do you need alchemy, fucking whyyy. Why just material refinement take up so much primary points ffs...
I made a "blacksmith" char thinking i could provide mats for my weapon making, but i cant fit weapon smithing and material refinement in... so bullshit
All the refining in MO2 is pure madness. 😭😵💫😵💫😕👎 Same for Alchemy and cooking. Maybe the most overcomplicated game.. and all without any help or tutorial by SV. Not even adding an NPC vendor for basic books recepies you can buy.
In the "tutorial" you say i wanna understand armour crafting.
Tutor: "here you are!" And then unlock your skill without saying anything.
And with all those everything has fantasy names (even wood and flowers) so you cannot even process logically what Is Better or not; because in any game there is a logic based on IRL behind, like "if i create a bronze sword It Will have a lesser durability than an iron sword. An Iron sword Will give less durability than a Steel sword" etc .. but here in MO2 there is no bronze , no iron no anything!! Only "Granum, coprum, tephra" that Will give you "blek, pig iron, Blood ore, calx".... A madness of processes without any logical mean for someome who is a noob or don't play since years. They overcomplicated anything.
yeah thats true, many struggle at the extraction/refining system. Yes a litttle bit more logic would be awesome especially with the durability of stuff. And also maybe faster rock collection or something like that. ALchemy is very complicated and cooking aswell compared to extraction. But these are okay in my opnion they are ment to be complicated to generate thousends of possiblities to make a potion or a perfect food.
@@WolfszeitYT yess i agree, but they should at least add some basic recepies vendors in-game. Not advanced stuff, just some basic guidebook that show images & help you enter in this world logic. It's not possible that the knowledge of things 90% of the time is outside the game or in private hands (like fan-based Google sites or your Channel) or even only whispered or hidden by veterans.