The Rise and Fall of Buell Motorcycles - Part 2

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  • Опубліковано 5 сер 2018
  • I felt that the biggest and most prominent American sportbike manufacturer headed by Erik Buell needed to be researched and laid out. It turned out to be way deeper than expected so here we are splitting it into three videos.
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  • @ianmacfarlane1241
    @ianmacfarlane1241 6 років тому +40

    You've done a fantastic job on this series.
    Eric Buell, because he's so interesting has been covered a LOT by the motorcycle press (I'm in the UK) and I thought that I knew all that I needed to know.
    And even though there's been no bombshells, it's still a fantastic series.
    Great narration, great graphics, great animation, great video, great photography, great editing - all in all it's been.........what's the word?
    I used to laugh at Buell - whacky ideas, constant buyouts & money problems, questionable styling, not very good engines* (you said the design went back to the 80s - it went back a lifetime before that if we're honest) terrible numbers (torque figures are where it's at obviously) appalling service & spares**, poor residuals on common models - yep, not a bike manufacturer that did it for me.
    However, taking a second look causes a slight rethink, and I think that you've been really fair about Buells - you might even make some people look at them a bit more seriously - can't wait for part 3.
    Did I say that it was great?
    *Not very good good engines - I meant that the H&D engines weren't designed for what Eric Buell was using them for - not shite engines - ill suited engines......probably.
    **Servicing and spares - not Buell's fault - H & D could have continued to provide servicing & sales even after they parted ways. I know that some individual H & D centres played ball, but it was pretty sporadic in my understanding.
    [edit] Forgot to say - S1 (6:27) looks fantastic.
    Lightning Long (16:44) likewise.
    XB12SCG (16:56) looks out of this World.

    • @Theillestrator1050
      @Theillestrator1050  6 років тому

      Well said! It sucks because as soon as Buell started to play around with other modern engines, things simultaneously went downhill you know? As quirky and interesting as using the old air cooled motor was, I think that contributed to the inability for some to take him seriously as you mentioned.

  • @sacrificialrook6283
    @sacrificialrook6283 6 років тому +15

    A possible correction:
    My understanding was that Buell HATED the blast, and that it was only created at the insistence of Harley as they wanted something smaller than the Sportster for their rider training courses. It was a product of obligation not passion, and it showed.

  • @BigDiksha
    @BigDiksha 6 років тому +12

    Man i don't know how to motivate you to make more of these documentaries but i want to say congratulations on a fantastic job yet again, you're a great writer and narrator. These videos are great, thank you for making them. Love from Croatia :)

  • @0neTwo3
    @0neTwo3 6 років тому +15

    Wheel base of a unicycle! 😂😂😂. So glad you left that in.

    • @observingrogue7652
      @observingrogue7652 6 років тому +3

      "Fuck it, I'm leaving it in."
      That part got me. XD

    • @Theillestrator1050
      @Theillestrator1050  6 років тому

      Lmfao, It sounded better on paper, and then I SAID it XD

  • @AdamSVT
    @AdamSVT 6 років тому +18

    watched the whole thing my man.. great and can't wait for part 3.. the sad part.

  • @rmuckluck
    @rmuckluck 6 років тому +11

    This is an awesome series man. Kinda of ironic as Harley looks like they are going to go back to street / naked bikes in 2020. Can you do a video on your take on the new models they have shown

    • @Theillestrator1050
      @Theillestrator1050  6 років тому

      I'm gonna add those bikes to the tail section of part 3. It's an important development!

  • @bandogbone3265
    @bandogbone3265 5 років тому

    16:27 - I was slightly offended that you called my XB12X Ulysses "strange". I bought mine in late 2007, got the 2008 Anniversary Edition, with Erik's signature on top of the triple clamp. I'd never ridden motorcycles before, and I learned on the Blast in the MSF course offered via the local Harley dealership. I got the Ulysses as my first bike, against everyone's advice, because my 40 min daily commute was mostly on the NJ interstate highways, and I had ambitions to ride year-round, which I successfully did, even in snow, slush, ice, and occasional single-digit temps. The bike performed great, I still have it, and still love it. Thanks for the wonderful and precious 3 videos! I'm downloading them and burning them into DVD's and USB thumb drives, which I will then keep under the seat for good luck as I continue to happily ride my blue Buell.

  • @hightidereset3748
    @hightidereset3748 6 років тому +13

    RIP in Pieces Harley's only link to the American Future. God Bless Erik Buell.

    • @Theillestrator1050
      @Theillestrator1050  6 років тому

      Looks like they're trying to reach a different crowd on their own now

    • @fvgc454ss
      @fvgc454ss 5 років тому

      Don't worry. Harley already has a stockpile of shit they've stolen from buell. Including electric bike technology

  • @studioelon
    @studioelon 6 років тому

    Gotta say that I truly enjoy your videos!
    Crazy informative and funny. I'll be back for part 3

  • @bigjaydogg3384
    @bigjaydogg3384 6 років тому

    I really love these videos. Don’t know how much positive feedback you get for these, but know I appreciate them.

  • @WonderfulWoodwardOfAZ
    @WonderfulWoodwardOfAZ 3 роки тому

    Really loved these couple Buell videos man. I appreciate you!

  • @pf4877
    @pf4877 6 років тому

    Awesome job on the series. Cant wait for part 3.

  • @Deltaworks23
    @Deltaworks23 6 років тому

    I was looking forward to this. Can't wait for part 3! Keep up the great work!

  • @Stackzz12
    @Stackzz12 2 роки тому

    Such an awesome channel… Keep the great information flowing!!! 💯👑💯

  • @Crazy-Chicken-Media
    @Crazy-Chicken-Media 6 років тому +11

    will if the numbers are right HD has done fuckn' up. Their 975cc naked is going to be $18k to start..... sooooo start working on the Death of HD 12 part video. Can't wait. also great video.

    • @jamesavery6671
      @jamesavery6671 6 років тому +3

      Typical of Harley. There is no way they can justify that much when you can buy a Ducati or KTM that has 200 to 300 more cc's and 160hp plus horse lol

    • @Crazy-Chicken-Media
      @Crazy-Chicken-Media 6 років тому +7

      "now that we have the style of bike you want with the HD name on it, can you please start buying our overpriced bikes now?" - CEO of HD

    • @Theillestrator1050
      @Theillestrator1050  6 років тому

      Oh shit, did they release the price for that streetfighter?

    • @Crazy-Chicken-Media
      @Crazy-Chicken-Media 6 років тому

      - The illestrator - I saw a couple people on r/Harley reddit chat posting pricing.

    • @Boldswords11
      @Boldswords11 5 років тому

      Annnnnnd where out of the HD mouth did they say the price for the streetfighter? They havent.

  • @grandrapids57
    @grandrapids57 4 роки тому

    This series has been fun to watch. As for the P3 Blast, I have put kit on it, to use it as "The One-Cylinder Tour Bike." It tops out at 96MPH stock and that seems enough. The Buell DNA is all there, from the M2 Cyclone, and you can really whip it around corners, and being 360lbs, its a great city bike. You'll never burn your legs on the exhaust, parts are cheap, the foot peg brackets double as crash bars, an oil change can be done in five minutes. It's an outstanding design.

  • @ciAMkia
    @ciAMkia 15 днів тому

    I'm surprised because I've dismissed Buell as a Harley castoff in the past.
    Then, I bought a Honda Shadow Aero about 15 years ago cuz I needed transportation and my wife wanted to ride on the back of a cruiser.
    Now, I've had to close my security consulting firm due to disability from my military service.
    So, I am able to ride some times and I want a naked sport bike.
    Re-enter Buell!
    We'll see, my 2 favorite words, ok, one's a contraction!
    Because, I'm leaning toward the Honda CB1000R, since I've been a Honda guy since the 70s and I TRUST HONDA.
    We'll see.
    Told you I liked those 2 words!
    Great video series.

  • @unfair_potato
    @unfair_potato 6 років тому

    You can just tell this was a lot of work to do, and I appreciate it, great job of hitting the high points in a few minutes!

  • @adibee88
    @adibee88 6 років тому +2

    Looking forward to Part 3! Great Work! 👊⚡⚡

  • @kansascitybomber
    @kansascitybomber 6 років тому

    Another great job! Looking forward to pt3
    Thank you!

  • @thejourneyman1087
    @thejourneyman1087 6 років тому +2

    Mid range torque, that gets you off the apex, Buell had it covered :) Thank you for doing these videos mate, Buell were and are such a good thing!

  • @jamespayne4459
    @jamespayne4459 3 роки тому

    Love your series dude, and your snark. Just the right amount of reverence and disdain.
    I actually started work as a test rider at the Harley test facility in Talladega Alabama in 97. Rode the whole development cycle for the Twin Cam, both alpha and beta, the Buell XB series and the V Rod. Was some good times. Got to admit though, I preferred all the time spent on Talladega Gran Prix raceway riding the competitor bikes for the Buell, CBR's, NINJA's, GIXXERS, your name it, we had a nice stable!!!

  • @skelly2step275
    @skelly2step275 6 років тому +1

    saw the pic on insta, i'm real excited for the first video, keep up the good work

  • @varid3r314
    @varid3r314 6 років тому +11

    At work still gonna watch tho

  • @baqbreaka117
    @baqbreaka117 6 років тому

    Dope series man. Certainly worth the time and effort needed to research and create this content.

  • @momoski68
    @momoski68 Рік тому

    Thank you Erik Buell for your determination, you have given me a LOT of fun over the years :-) Between my three Buells ive owned and the FXR I have had a blast

  • @hfr8343
    @hfr8343 6 років тому +5

    Dem Xb12's are kinda fire. Good video, you're a real historian

    • @nick-ro5bd
      @nick-ro5bd 2 місяці тому

      I got one... it's not a liter bike, but it's more addicting

  • @Anthony-qh1xv
    @Anthony-qh1xv 3 роки тому

    Dude you are so funny!!! "angry triangles that sound like hair dryers" "so much fairing it's practically like a nun" haha! got me dead!

  • @matthewsmithson7946
    @matthewsmithson7946 6 років тому +1

    Really like these types of videos keep up the good work

  • @artistbyknight4476
    @artistbyknight4476 6 років тому

    Damn. Even better than part 1. Salivating for 3 now!!!

  • @alfasicks4553
    @alfasicks4553 6 років тому

    Worth the wait! Great video!

  • @nelsonvenezia1958
    @nelsonvenezia1958 5 років тому

    Thanks guys for doing this. The ending (at this point in time) breaks my heart. While watching the videos I keep hoping it will end differently. I want to see Erik Buell and his motorcycles succeed. One can only hope he will rise again somewhere and continue to confound convention with his ideas. I hope he will be appreciated in his/our time and not post mortem.

  • @markhalden3922
    @markhalden3922 6 років тому

    Luv it, your docos are getting really good

  • @cainus8359
    @cainus8359 6 років тому

    Next level editing. Keep it coming buddy!!

  • @ivan9066
    @ivan9066 6 років тому

    I ABSOLUTELY love these series!

  • @TheJonnyDynamite
    @TheJonnyDynamite 4 роки тому +1

    Great so far. One interesting thing about the xb buells is that they were originally supposed to be turbo charged. The first year or two even have the cutout in the fuel tank for the plumbing.

  • @Gamingbee
    @Gamingbee 6 років тому +1

    I watch your videos before school but haven’t seen one in a While but this time it’s fun all over again

    • @Theillestrator1050
      @Theillestrator1050  6 років тому

      Im back, trying to pick up the slack!

    • @Gamingbee
      @Gamingbee 6 років тому

      - The illestrator - that’s good man and I really like your commentary video ! Those are my favorite

  • @numbskull9942
    @numbskull9942 6 років тому

    Man! I love these types of videos!

  • @philipcaseyacalloway204
    @philipcaseyacalloway204 3 роки тому

    I picked up my S1 from a family friend and HOLY SHIT! I am still surprised how small that thing is for how big that damn motor is! Fun bikes, lots of love and innovation went into this thing very proud to own such a cool American bike.

  • @biclifett
    @biclifett 6 років тому

    Great job, I really like these kind of vids

  • @4-n52
    @4-n52 6 років тому

    Really enjoying this series. Looking forward to part 3 even though I know it's going downhill.

  • @sharkybarks2946
    @sharkybarks2946 6 років тому

    Dude i cant wait for part 3, hopefully it comes out soon so i can enjoy it while my leg heals from my car accident, keep it up dude youre doing a great job

  • @brettcurro4259
    @brettcurro4259 3 роки тому

    Really amazing video. Commenting because a friend picked up a Honda RC51 and in that video you put together you mentioned Buell. Well thought out, lots of details and very well put together.
    One additional data point in the whole Buell saga is the VR1000. You kind of mentioned it in the first video with the V Rod motor but really it should've been in a Buell if they were able to keep the dimensions in check. Also, that bike was where Erik initially developed the fuel in frame idea that was later used on the XB bikes.

  • @SoLSamuraibloodblade
    @SoLSamuraibloodblade 6 років тому

    Keep up the good work my dude, you make awesome videos.

  • @HotMike
    @HotMike 5 років тому

    Bruh! You make the best videos. Full stop.

  • @dut4204
    @dut4204 6 років тому

    Cant wait for part 3

  • @dabsontwowheels8492
    @dabsontwowheels8492 6 років тому

    Great content and I know all the models are a mouthful but they each have their own ride and feel. Can’t wait for part three even though I know what’s coming. Soon to come... great business advice on what not to do combined with a bad economy.

  • @SWMOSXS
    @SWMOSXS 4 роки тому

    Love this series

  • @frankiehumphreyiv5972
    @frankiehumphreyiv5972 6 років тому

    Man You Are One Of The Very Best !! You need to do this Professionally !
    -Sarge

  • @rohaianan
    @rohaianan 6 років тому

    Hahaha. Even better video. You have talent making very entertaining videos. It was funny and got info out. Thanks again. Uh and where’s part 3?

  • @enfieldlover8145
    @enfieldlover8145 5 років тому

    almost a buell history expert! just one more episode and "hey mom, i graduated!"

  • @robk93442
    @robk93442 4 роки тому

    Awesome videos and was shocked as he'll (in a good way) to see my bike on the dyno in this one!!

  • @dan-k2113
    @dan-k2113 6 років тому

    Nice work ! Love the content

  • @boltrodriguez5606
    @boltrodriguez5606 6 років тому

    In 2005 Eric Buell was named among the 20 most influential people in the motorcycle industry by BIKE magazine. The cover featured the 12R Firebolt (hero blue).

  • @jawz3102
    @jawz3102 4 роки тому

    I absolutely love the look of the later buells with the Japanese style frame. Perfect.

  • @Bretbunde
    @Bretbunde 5 років тому

    Nice comprehensive doc on the Buell brother.

  • @aljenysilven4121
    @aljenysilven4121 6 років тому

    Love this dudes videos !!

  • @SwannyIV
    @SwannyIV 6 років тому +1

    I own a 2000 M2.. a absolute blast to ride. Handles great and makes good power. I definitely recommend buying a buell. Love Erik Buells work

    • @filoIII
      @filoIII 5 років тому

      Is it true HD stop selling Buell parts? I wanna buy a Buell, but I'm concerned about parts availability.

  • @dbc1dc
    @dbc1dc 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video cred, but that wasn't my video:) I do have a bad ass S1, but yeah, that wasn't me, or mine. Well done series! You just need to give in now, and buy one, you won't regret it.

  • @DiegoGarcia-rk5ql
    @DiegoGarcia-rk5ql 5 років тому

    Bruh the part where you talked about him coming up with all the different versions killed meXD

  • @ZPOLLAK
    @ZPOLLAK 6 років тому

    I dont watch videos like this, ever. I hate them all. But, i watched this. Thank you for making an 18 minute video interesting and concise! Keep it up.

  • @aeror115
    @aeror115 6 років тому

    Did i read a buell book while I was listening to classical music or did I just watch your amazing videos?
    Thanks for all this amazing informations!
    Waiting for part 3 mate✌🏼

  • @joeb751
    @joeb751 5 років тому

    I feel like I am in school with a cool teacher! awesome vid bro!

  • @K0nst4nt1n96
    @K0nst4nt1n96 6 років тому +1

    Yes i waited for this!

  • @djfrankfrancis
    @djfrankfrancis 6 років тому

    was waiting for this!!! #salute

  • @2laneblacktop943
    @2laneblacktop943 6 років тому

    another great episode.

  • @bluedogreddog7623
    @bluedogreddog7623 4 роки тому

    Thank you for the videos

  • @questinfinity
    @questinfinity 5 років тому

    GREAT JOB WITH THE VIDEO MAN👍👍👍👍👍

  • @MG-uz5mr
    @MG-uz5mr 4 роки тому

    This video deserves more views!

  • @-DC-
    @-DC- 6 років тому

    Absolutely outstanding!

  • @AST4EVER
    @AST4EVER 6 років тому

    It was well informative and funny as well.... I curiously listened you while laughing 😊😂🖖👏

  • @assortedpov9722
    @assortedpov9722 5 років тому

    Haha these are my favourite videos of yours, where you talk about various aspects of biking history. "Looks like a big angry bar of slightly used soap propelling itself through time" is a near perfect description. I wonder how you'd describe the Hayabusa, a bike of similar aesthetic beauty.

  • @marcussmith341
    @marcussmith341 Рік тому

    bro what a deep dive thank you

  • @EKOWHO
    @EKOWHO 6 років тому

    Love the video!

  • @Brandy2024.
    @Brandy2024. 5 років тому

    Excellent video

  • @chrisrogersBueller4life
    @chrisrogersBueller4life 5 років тому

    I absolutely LOVE my 2005 Buell Lightning XB12SCG! I wouldn't trade it for ANY bike out there. Oh, and I also loved my first Buell; 2000 Blast!

  • @makarlock
    @makarlock 6 років тому +1

    Great work, as usual my friend. We can hear the amount of work that goes into it with the remarks like "fuck it I'm leaving that in" as the editing hours become apparent. Man I wish buell could build a sportbike with a real engine (Harley guys triggered) like an inline four or a V4.

  • @InvidiousIgnoramus
    @InvidiousIgnoramus 6 років тому

    Yay, it's here!

  • @christianhodges685
    @christianhodges685 6 років тому

    15:36 "I like half fairings, but the R version looks like it was just *jizzes* slapped on there" 😂

  • @flightofarrow
    @flightofarrow 6 років тому

    Smooth as hell,you got some skills,a bard.

  • @tonyk7899
    @tonyk7899 6 років тому

    Great job. 👍👍

  • @beefpatty144
    @beefpatty144 6 років тому

    Thanks man appreciate you doing this, makes me appreciate my xb9s even more after I got my 1125r which I may or may not has neglected my xb9s. lol

  • @InferisDCB
    @InferisDCB 5 років тому

    I loved! And still very much like the look of the X1

  • @ohbogey
    @ohbogey 6 років тому

    Awesome vid!!

  • @panther105
    @panther105 5 років тому

    Love the background music....

  • @svafricanqueen
    @svafricanqueen 6 років тому +1

    Great video and topic. I remember the fisher motorcycles. Hardly anybody new about them.

    • @Theillestrator1050
      @Theillestrator1050  6 років тому +1

      I only heard of them through HeroRR's video

    • @svafricanqueen
      @svafricanqueen 6 років тому

      - The illestrator - I heard about the Fisher motorbikes specifically through HERORR but my dad was on about little motorbike companies struggling for a place in 1970's all the way to the 1990's in England.

  • @jskaila5956
    @jskaila5956 6 років тому

    Not a single dislike at this time. Proud of you my boy❤️❤️

  • @standardhope1484
    @standardhope1484 6 років тому

    ready for the 3rd! just snapped the belt on my xb9sx pretty bummed.

  • @Sasqmoto
    @Sasqmoto 6 років тому

    Great, love the comedic value too. Entertaining 👍🏽👍🏽

    • @Theillestrator1050
      @Theillestrator1050  6 років тому

      The balance of humor and Info is crucial!

    • @Sasqmoto
      @Sasqmoto 6 років тому

      Hey ill can you check out my latest video and provide some feedback. I'd appreciate it!

  • @j.santiago7022
    @j.santiago7022 5 років тому

    Great writing!

  • @docmoto6477
    @docmoto6477 6 років тому

    Legit entertaining 😎 keep it up!!

  • @NexusReload
    @NexusReload 6 років тому

    Make more motorcycle documentaries, you're really good at it bro.

  • @prestonpritzlaff901
    @prestonpritzlaff901 6 років тому

    Love the video nice job

  • @nedredhead474
    @nedredhead474 6 років тому +1

    Damn man kept me waiting

  • @GFClocked
    @GFClocked 6 років тому

    Love this so much

  • @blipco5
    @blipco5 6 років тому +5

    See YOU in part three. The Rotax bikes, right?

    • @Theillestrator1050
      @Theillestrator1050  6 років тому +1

      You guessed it!

    • @blipco5
      @blipco5 6 років тому

      +- The illestrator - ...Yep, once he finally changed to the Rotax I demo'd one that I thought I would buy. I think it was the Cafe model. But nope, too dang small. I'm not that big, six feet, but I was cramped and felt like I would fly over the handle bars whenever I hit the brakes. Promising bikes but Erik needs to understand that most people buying his bikes are NOT racers.

    • @ryanwolfe911
      @ryanwolfe911 5 років тому +1

      If you want that shit, then just go buy a Harley. The vast majority of Buell owners much prefer a race type bike, as evidenced by EBR.

    • @tokyosmash
      @tokyosmash 4 роки тому

      blipco5 I’m 5’11 and feel like I’m at the ragged edge of what fits on the 1125r, but god that motor, so fucking good.

  • @georgecostanza2695
    @georgecostanza2695 5 років тому

    I think the X1 was ahead of it's time. If HD came out with a bike like that today with a tft screen and led lights, they would sell like hot cakes.

  • @tommyescobia8381
    @tommyescobia8381 6 років тому

    I really like this video! I currently own 12 bikes, all registered and tagged, most are Buells. They aren’t the best, but like you said, they’re oddballs, so I guess I’m an oddball also. Besides that, they are archaic bikes but still fun to ride and modify (just a bit). Slow, kinda. Fun? Yes. But totally different. I look forward to the next part three. My lineup so far is the: S2 thunderbolt, M2 cyclone, X1 Lighning, Xb9sx Lighning, xb9s Lighning, xb9r firebolt, Xb12r firebolt, blast, 1125r, ebr 1190rx, 883 iron Harley and my wife’s 250 rebel. Oh also, they’re priced low and that’s prolly why i got em. Lol. Keep me coming my man!!!!!

    • @Theillestrator1050
      @Theillestrator1050  6 років тому +1

      I'm jealous!

    • @darthsoros787
      @darthsoros787 5 років тому

      Tommy Escobia you need a xb12s or cgs, straight stunt bike

    • @tommyescobia8381
      @tommyescobia8381 5 років тому

      Darth Soros
      Honestly, I would like to get a 12s, or an SCG. Though I don’t stunt. I’m not that talented nor brave enough. Just a rider.

  • @atticus6541
    @atticus6541 6 років тому

    Ayyyyyye he's back

  • @dfelixpt
    @dfelixpt 5 років тому

    waiting for part III... :)