I've been riding one of these for a couple of years now. The ride is magical, the handling is sublime, and the capability is massive in It's scope. From single-track to world touring. It's an absolutely ripping bike. Nice work, Jeff💥
I bought a Jones Plus last February on blind faith and absolutely everything Jeff says here is true. This bike is amazing on the trail and on the road: quick, comfortable and confidence-inspiring.
I bought an SWB complete last fall. It’s the only bike I’ve paid retail for in 29 years and I 100% don’t regret it at all! It’s such a fun machine! And it climbs like CRAZY! Good work, Jeff! My hat’s off to you, good doctor! 🤘🏻✊🏻✌🏻
Two Years ago I got the H-Bar for my Fargo. Was amazed. My hand/finger numbness went almost to zero, even after a 1500kms 12 day ride. Was totally convinced. Almost finished my Diamond Plus LWB with Truss Fork. Supplyer sent me a non Boost Crankset so the chain rubs the rear tyre, otherwise today would be New Bike Test Drive Day! Grea Work Jeff. Thanks!
Hi Thanks Jeff I'm now starting to love my Jones Plus After you new setup details Yes changing to the short 40mm stem has made a Big difference to the ride Now playing to pay a Jones 29 for quick about riding and have my Jones Plus setup full time for Bikepacking weekends/adventures :-) Thanks again
Yep! Bought a stock LWB for trail riding in WNY and the Adirondacks. It’s faster than my previous hardtails a and Giant Trance X. Strava says I’m faster and my back says I’m more comfortable. I quickly upgraded to the Titanium LWB with a truss fork. It’s amazing. Fast as hell and comfortable. I like riding to the trailhead…what a concept!
I can totally agree with this ethos. Reminds me a lot of Geoff Apps designs and philosophy to bike building. I’m 6ft3 and would love a long frame with an upright position. I run bmx bars on 80’s mountain bikes to achieve this position.
Even if I'm not on a Jones but on an actual rip off of his ideas (Genesis Longitude) which I just fully realised after watching this video. I would like to thank you man for your passion and would like to share my gratitude for your awesome knowledge. Keep it up, cheers from Italy!
Well done, great to hear a builder's history, it's my favourite video of 2016. It follows from my 2015 favourite The Pro's Closet TPC Museum Series with a selection of MTB history including similar style interviews with builders Joe Breeze and Steve Potts.
Interesting and informative video, I'm just getting into this "plus" size bike craze and I really like the benefits it gives in a hardtail mountain bike. Early days for me but this really was food for thought.
HEY,just wanted to let you know Ron at bikes and more got your bars in. I love them. Put them on my Surly Krampus. Best bars out there. Hope someday to get a Jones Plus. Thanks Dave
Interesting , I have a 90s Schwinn Paramount PDG 40, it's Tange tubes and I think made in Japan. It's billed as a mountain bike, but it's more a hybrid I think . It has a long wheel base and I've found it very stable. I may try the Jones bar and use as a commuter /touring bike as it has rack mounts .. Turned out to be one of my favorite bike. I bought it used from a guy that had worked at the local Schwinn shop for peanuts.
We have packs for the Truss forks: blog.jonesbikes.com/the-jones-truss-fork-packs-are-here/ With the Unicrown fork you can mount a rack and cages: instagram.com/p/BtUC4QhgfNF/ Front basket: instagram.com/p/BpZvr5-Bts1/
That was fascinating. My MTB is only a few months old and I'm enjoying it but I feel I'm always being forced forwards when I want to be sat more neutrally. Thanks for the video.
I found Jones Bikes by researching handlebars. I love hearing about the benefits of the wide/low pressure tires. But are there downsides? I'm not racer but I notice on my Trek, when my tires are on the low side, I get frustrated that I'm riding slow. Is there a reason why Jones Bike low pressure tires don't have the same characteristics? Or is more like, "who cares about speed when the handling and comfort is better?" Also, going down those stairs, I love the way the tires soak up the bumps. But doesn't there come a point at times where you bottom out the rim and bend the rim? Thanks in advance for any input and sorry for the dumb questions, I don't know that much about bikes, but I'm starting to get more interested watching these vids.
Q: But are there downsides? A: Bigger tires with wider rims weigh more so they are not as good for sprinting since it takes a little longer to accelerate more mass. Most people I talk with are not trying to out-sprint other riders so this does not matter much to them. Q: I'm not racer but I notice on my Trek, when my tires are on the low side, I get frustrated that I'm riding slow. A: Bigger tires on wide rims do not need as much pressure to make the tire firm enough to ride well. I ride with around 11 psi and that is the correct pressure for me. I would need more pressure if I have a narrower rim or tire. If my tires are on the low side of what I should use, then I will also have a slower feeling ride like when you go lower than what your bike needs for you. More here: ua-cam.com/video/i2ooV7GIZKs/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=91 Q: Is there a reason why Jones Bike low-pressure tires don't have the same characteristics? Or is more like, "who cares about speed when the handling and comfort is better?" A: Wider rims with bigger tires use lower pressures. Example: Monster trucks are much heavier than normal trucks and yet they only need around 10psi because the tires are so big. Bigger tires with lower pressure give a smoother ride with excellent traction and lower rolling resistance, especially on bumpy or soft terrain. More here: ua-cam.com/video/iAakRP_FCMc/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=797 Q: Also, going down those stairs, I love the way the tires soak up the bumps. But doesn't there come a point at times where you bottom out the rim and bend the rim? A: Yes, just like on any bike, so I set my tire pressure before each ride so my tires are firm enough that I won't bottom out the tire on the rim too much to too hard. The rims can take some hits without bending. ua-cam.com/video/UO3G-BiaQbk/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
@@VeloperatorSo cool. Thanks very much for putting in lots of effort to answer my questions. And also - great answers. Makes sense. Somehow, my mind doesn't wanna believe I can get anywhere with 11psi. But you guys make 'em and ride 'em, and your explanation about physics makes sense, so I just have force my brain to get it. Kind of like infinity, I know it exists but I still have to convince myself. I rode every day for a decade when I was kid. BMX. Then I took a cool 40 years off. About 4 years ago I walked into the bike shop and walked out with a lower end Trek Marlin 7. I had no idea what I bought. Since THEN I've ridden 9 mile/day 5 or 6 times per week and I'm so hooked. On one hand, I love my bike and it's perfect for my lower-level old-guy type of riding. On the other hand, I've always been kind of disappointed I didn't research bikes before I purchased. Maybe I should have got something else. But on the third hand, until I read about your bikes, I didn't really know what else I should've considered. It's just that recently my wrists started hurting with stock flat no-sweep bars and it led me to you. So... long story... but now finally I have an idea of what I should have bought, and also what my next purchase should be. The vids and testimonials (and your explanation above) pretty much address everything I've experienced and thought about wanting to improve to my bike. Great job - THANK YOU!
Hey Jeff I am 6.3ft/192cm tall but with only a 32inch inside leg so long body and short leg what do you think would be the best size for me? all thoughts appreciated
Simon, Please email us at jonesbikes@jonesbikes.com and we can help you better there. It depends on many things but basically you need at least one inch of clearance when standing over the top tube. The large or medium size will fit you if the stand over clearance is ok for you. The medium will have the handlebar a little closer to you since it has shorter reach. We have other riders your height and taller are on the medium size because they want to sit very upright and have more stand over clearance. If your stand over is ok on a large, then maybe that could be for you.
велосипед великолепный как и руль. жаль цена приближается к цене автомобиля . это 4200 +300 руль и это без колес сиденья шатунов тормозов и остального. это еще 1300 по хорошему. 5600-6000 за велосипед. эх джонс - постарайся лучше оптимизировать производство и все сделать впловину дешевле.
Jones H-Bars start at $75. Here's a Loop H-Bar for $79: www.jonesbikes.com/jones-h-bar-sg-loop-aluminum/ Have you seen the new complete Jones bikes for around $2000? www.jonesbikes.com/bicycles/ Check out this video about the Plus SWB bike released last year: ua-cam.com/video/M6CPiUyrTXo/v-deo.html Thanks! JJ
I've been riding one of these for a couple of years now. The ride is magical, the handling is sublime, and the capability is massive in It's scope. From single-track to world touring. It's an absolutely ripping bike. Nice work, Jeff💥
Thanks!
I bought a Jones Plus last February on blind faith and absolutely everything Jeff says here is true. This bike is amazing on the trail and on the road: quick, comfortable and confidence-inspiring.
You the man in your own World of design! Great vision!!
First week on a complete LWB - WOW!!
I bought an SWB complete last fall. It’s the only bike I’ve paid retail for in 29 years and I 100% don’t regret it at all! It’s such a fun machine! And it climbs like CRAZY! Good work, Jeff! My hat’s off to you, good doctor! 🤘🏻✊🏻✌🏻
Two Years ago I got the H-Bar for my Fargo. Was amazed. My hand/finger numbness went almost to zero, even after a 1500kms 12 day ride. Was totally convinced.
Almost finished my Diamond Plus LWB with Truss Fork. Supplyer sent me a non Boost Crankset so the chain rubs the rear tyre, otherwise today would be New Bike Test Drive Day! Grea Work Jeff. Thanks!
Had a chance to ride it yet? Thoughts? I'm thinking of ordering one of these.
How do you like it VS your Fargo?
@@chrisE815 More comfortable and fun. But when going on really long rides, the Fargo is lighter and you dont get so tired.
But if i had to choose i would go for the Jones.
Love seeing you bomb around town like a BMX. Killer, man.
I’m saving ❤❤❤
Love the "Quadangle" looking Longranger!
Hi Thanks Jeff
I'm now starting to love my Jones Plus
After you new setup details
Yes changing to the short 40mm stem has made a Big difference to the ride
Now playing to pay a Jones 29 for quick about riding and have my Jones Plus setup full time for Bikepacking weekends/adventures
:-)
Thanks again
Yep! Bought a stock LWB for trail riding in WNY and the Adirondacks. It’s faster than my previous hardtails a and Giant Trance X. Strava says I’m faster and my back says I’m more comfortable. I quickly upgraded to the Titanium LWB with a truss fork. It’s amazing. Fast as hell and comfortable. I like riding to the trailhead…what a concept!
I can totally agree with this ethos. Reminds me a lot of Geoff Apps designs and philosophy to bike building. I’m 6ft3 and would love a long frame with an upright position. I run bmx bars on 80’s mountain bikes to achieve this position.
Perfect philosophy, I totally agree.
Even if I'm not on a Jones but on an actual rip off of his ideas (Genesis Longitude) which I just fully realised after watching this video. I would like to thank you man for your passion and would like to share my gratitude for your awesome knowledge. Keep it up, cheers from Italy!
Well done, great to hear a builder's history, it's my favourite video of 2016. It follows from my 2015 favourite The Pro's Closet TPC Museum Series with a selection of MTB history including similar style interviews with builders Joe Breeze and Steve Potts.
Great explanation of the Jones Plus philosophy Jeff. I am very much looking forward to testing this one.
This was incredibly informative !!!
This is a really cool video! Thanks for sharing the philosophy behind your geometry.
Just found these bikes... man, this will be my ultimate bike purchase... so sick.... And Jeff is a mad man...
this is so well explained, thanks Jeff👍
Love this bike. You Great!
Interesting and informative video, I'm just getting into this "plus" size bike craze and I really like the benefits it gives in a hardtail mountain bike. Early days for me but this really was food for thought.
HEY,just wanted to let you know Ron at bikes and more got your bars in. I love them. Put them on my Surly Krampus. Best bars out there. Hope someday to get a Jones Plus. Thanks Dave
Great work Jeff Jones and i love the bike
Thank you.
Interesting , I have a 90s Schwinn Paramount PDG 40, it's Tange tubes and I think made in Japan. It's billed as a mountain bike, but it's more a hybrid I think . It has a long wheel base and I've found it very stable. I may try the Jones bar and use as a commuter /touring bike as it has rack mounts .. Turned out to be one of my favorite bike. I bought it used from a guy that had worked at the local Schwinn shop for peanuts.
THIS IS ALSO DREAM BIKE
I want one!
Most beatifull bicycle in the world
Can you mount front rack or cage on the fork for adventure?
We have packs for the Truss forks: blog.jonesbikes.com/the-jones-truss-fork-packs-are-here/
With the Unicrown fork you can mount a rack and cages: instagram.com/p/BtUC4QhgfNF/
Front basket: instagram.com/p/BpZvr5-Bts1/
Very good self promotion videos!! exciting!!
That Long Ranger still looks like the bike Jones should be building.
Hey Jeff .. what size is the bike that you are using for explaining geometry and positions ? M ?
Yes. It's a medium is my size. I am 6' tall.
I would love one. What it to ship one Australia 🇦🇺.
Cheers
That was fascinating. My MTB is only a few months old and I'm enjoying it but I feel I'm always being forced forwards when I want to be sat more neutrally. Thanks for the video.
These would make excellent E-bike frames too!
He's a Master.
I found Jones Bikes by researching handlebars. I love hearing about the benefits of the wide/low pressure tires. But are there downsides? I'm not racer but I notice on my Trek, when my tires are on the low side, I get frustrated that I'm riding slow. Is there a reason why Jones Bike low pressure tires don't have the same characteristics? Or is more like, "who cares about speed when the handling and comfort is better?" Also, going down those stairs, I love the way the tires soak up the bumps. But doesn't there come a point at times where you bottom out the rim and bend the rim? Thanks in advance for any input and sorry for the dumb questions, I don't know that much about bikes, but I'm starting to get more interested watching these vids.
Q: But are there downsides?
A: Bigger tires with wider rims weigh more so they are not as good for sprinting since it takes a little longer to accelerate more mass. Most people I talk with are not trying to out-sprint other riders so this does not matter much to them.
Q: I'm not racer but I notice on my Trek, when my tires are on the low side, I get frustrated that I'm riding slow.
A: Bigger tires on wide rims do not need as much pressure to make the tire firm enough to ride well. I ride with around 11 psi and that is the correct pressure for me. I would need more pressure if I have a narrower rim or tire. If my tires are on the low side of what I should use, then I will also have a slower feeling ride like when you go lower than what your bike needs for you. More here: ua-cam.com/video/i2ooV7GIZKs/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=91
Q: Is there a reason why Jones Bike low-pressure tires don't have the same characteristics? Or is more like, "who cares about speed when the handling and comfort is better?"
A: Wider rims with bigger tires use lower pressures. Example: Monster trucks are much heavier than normal trucks and yet they only need around 10psi because the tires are so big. Bigger tires with lower pressure give a smoother ride with excellent traction and lower rolling resistance, especially on bumpy or soft terrain. More here: ua-cam.com/video/iAakRP_FCMc/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=797
Q: Also, going down those stairs, I love the way the tires soak up the bumps. But doesn't there come a point at times where you bottom out the rim and bend the rim?
A: Yes, just like on any bike, so I set my tire pressure before each ride so my tires are firm enough that I won't bottom out the tire on the rim too much to too hard. The rims can take some hits without bending. ua-cam.com/video/UO3G-BiaQbk/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
@@VeloperatorSo cool. Thanks very much for putting in lots of effort to answer my questions.
And also - great answers. Makes sense. Somehow, my mind doesn't wanna believe I can get anywhere with 11psi. But you guys make 'em and ride 'em, and your explanation about physics makes sense, so I just have force my brain to get it. Kind of like infinity, I know it exists but I still have to convince myself.
I rode every day for a decade when I was kid. BMX. Then I took a cool 40 years off.
About 4 years ago I walked into the bike shop and walked out with a lower end Trek Marlin 7. I had no idea what I bought.
Since THEN I've ridden 9 mile/day 5 or 6 times per week and I'm so hooked. On one hand, I love my bike and it's perfect for my lower-level old-guy type of riding.
On the other hand, I've always been kind of disappointed I didn't research bikes before I purchased. Maybe I should have got something else.
But on the third hand, until I read about your bikes, I didn't really know what else I should've considered.
It's just that recently my wrists started hurting with stock flat no-sweep bars and it led me to you.
So... long story... but now finally I have an idea of what I should have bought, and also what my next purchase should be. The vids and testimonials (and your explanation above) pretty much address everything I've experienced and thought about wanting to improve to my bike.
Great job - THANK YOU!
I wish there’s a small size option for this frame
Light hands, heavy feet. :)
Cool!🖒
Hey Jeff I am 6.3ft/192cm tall but with only a 32inch inside leg so long body and short leg what do you think would be the best size for me? all thoughts appreciated
Simon, Please email us at jonesbikes@jonesbikes.com and we can help you better there. It depends on many things but basically you need at least one inch of clearance when standing over the top tube. The large or medium size will fit you if the stand over clearance is ok for you. The medium will have the handlebar a little closer to you since it has shorter reach. We have other riders your height and taller are on the medium size because they want to sit very upright and have more stand over clearance. If your stand over is ok on a large, then maybe that could be for you.
I like the Jones Plus LWD HD/e for $3495, but thought the Honda CT 125 Trail was a better bike that cost only $3899 and they are available now.
Then within 2 years from this video, Trek comes out with their 29+ bike
Jonathan Poon trek & surly are way before this
😮😮❤❤
How much is this bag
It's listed here: www.jonesbikes.com/packs-racks/
велосипед великолепный как и руль. жаль цена приближается к цене автомобиля . это 4200 +300 руль и это без колес сиденья шатунов тормозов и остального. это еще 1300 по хорошему. 5600-6000 за велосипед. эх джонс - постарайся лучше оптимизировать производство и все сделать впловину дешевле.
Jones H-Bars start at $75. Here's a Loop H-Bar for $79: www.jonesbikes.com/jones-h-bar-sg-loop-aluminum/ Have you seen the new complete Jones bikes for around $2000? www.jonesbikes.com/bicycles/ Check out this video about the Plus SWB bike released last year: ua-cam.com/video/M6CPiUyrTXo/v-deo.html Thanks! JJ
My mind is tight , my cock is heavy. Bombs away with my LWB!
Nice concept