The Mystery of Phoenix Wright's Family

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
  • [SPOILERS FOR THE TRILOGY, APOLLO JUSTICE, DUAL DESTINIES AND SPIRIT OF JUSTICE]
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    Ever wondered why we know little to nothing about Phoenix Wright's family? Because I just did and I made this vid as a result xD
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    Made in Objection.lol
    Enjoy
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    Character Credits/Codes:
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    1) Athena Cykes Witness (by VLS): HKVGPP
    2) Apollo Justice Witness (by Trucy Naruhodou): TDKMVH
    3) Phoenix Wright SoJ Witness (by a bunch of deleted users and GuyFugs): GFBDXJ
    4) Larry Butz SoJ (by mash): QTHXUQ
    5) Susato Mikotoba Counsel (by ???): FKHELD
    6) Ryunosuke Naruhodo Witness (by Sholmes): EOJYNN
    7) Miles Edgeworth Witness DD (by Man): LNVBGJ
    8) Sebastian Debeste (by Idioticheskiy): XIQSIU
    9) Herlock Sholmes Defense (by Sholmes): JDNGYZ
    10) Maya Fey SOJ by Евгений Семенюк: HLMTGR

КОМЕНТАРІ • 181

  • @debastiansebeste
    @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +159

    I had second thoughts about adding the "Sister Bikini is Larry's mother" theory. What are your opinions on that theory, y'all? 😅

    • @connordanielson8833
      @connordanielson8833 Рік тому +2

      Could be interesting

    • @vercettinguyen9063
      @vercettinguyen9063 Рік тому +6

      It would be intriguing, but it also sounds wrong, when you look at it closer.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +33

      ​@@vercettinguyen9063it was that one moment in T&T where you present Larry Bikini's profile and he says "she's my mother". Later he "corrects" it by saying she's like a mother to him but fans are letting the headcanons go brrrr xD

    • @vercettinguyen9063
      @vercettinguyen9063 Рік тому +13

      @@debastiansebeste Exactly. Say one thing or give out one information, and the fandom just roll with it infinitely with their own perspective. That's why it sounds wrong, in a way.

    • @RiouMcDohl26
      @RiouMcDohl26 Рік тому +19

      I always thought that this is a situation of poor translation since it's a japanese thing. In Japan, when a couple marries they start to call her father and mother-in-law "father" and "mother".
      Even if Larry later says that Bikini reminds her of her own mother, the fact that he says to Phoenix during the first day that she's her mother is because Bikini is de facto like a mother to Iris (Iris confirms this during the third day) and knowing that Larry likes Iris, he's five steps ahead, looking Bikini as his future mother-in-law.

  • @vercettinguyen9063
    @vercettinguyen9063 Рік тому +78

    The family tree does not look like a tree but more like a bush when you decided to draw it out.

  • @JLAndersen01
    @JLAndersen01 Рік тому +141

    I'm laughing so HARD at this!
    Athena: "Trucy, you're part of EVERYONE'S FAMILY!" is the most accurate statement I have ever read in my life.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +39

      I mean, she's Phoenix's adoptive daughter, Zak and Thalassa's daughter, Apollo's sister, she's related to half the people in that room and it would be even more if I had rolled with my initial plan to have Thalassa be in this vid too xD

    • @JLAndersen01
      @JLAndersen01 Рік тому +14

      @debastiansebeste At this point Phoenix should've adopted Apollo and Athena too

    • @the_saucepan
      @the_saucepan Рік тому +9

      @@JLAndersen01 not more child support loans to ask edgeworth for alongside rent to pay the bills for both the office and his home 😩

    • @candicoated2001
      @candicoated2001 Рік тому +8

      ​@@JLAndersen01Considering that Apollo and Athena are currently adults he wouldn't have to worry about that too much. 😭

    • @Bladezer3000
      @Bladezer3000 Рік тому +9

      Next game, Athena and Trucey are revealed to be 2nd cousins :p

  • @thefoxoftimeandspace794
    @thefoxoftimeandspace794 Рік тому +41

    I think he mentioned having a mom in reunion and turnabout, and in the anime (at least in the dub, also reunion and turnabout) when Lotta asked if he's gotten bigger since she last saw him, he muttered "Please, you sound like my aunt."

  • @nyxphilic
    @nyxphilic Рік тому +131

    HAHHA this was an amazing start to the day! I love the part where Athena and Apollo look at each other like "..." and Phoenix is like "Damnit, shouldn't have hired an office full of lie detectors" (though, Trucy would've been able to detect something as well, no?) 😭

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +21

      Trucy is said to have been able to sense some stuff but not as easily as Apollo, mostly because she doesn't have one of Thalassa's bracelets. Apollo uses the bracelet to immediately feel the hint when someone is lying, so I imagine for Trucy it would be a bit harder or something

    • @nyxphilic
      @nyxphilic Рік тому +8

      Ahh, I get it! I personally see Apollo's ability as precise, while Trucy's is overall - she can tell when someone is acting off, but she can't tell when there's a tic / what EXACTLY is off like Apollo can.
      So I imagine Phoenix's general demeanour might've set Trucy's "my daddy's lying again" radar off, even in the slightest. Though of course, I agree with you, Apollo and Athena have a much better sense of it :)

  • @jbourbon3734
    @jbourbon3734 11 місяців тому +20

    Well, considering how Phoenix's parents weren't mentioned even during that time Wright was framed for murder, it's likely that they just BAILED on him and didn't even give him the benefit of the doubt.
    I can see why Phoenix never talks about his parents.

  • @13Lion
    @13Lion Рік тому +34

    I can imagine a sequel where phoenix or trucy finds karuma lying around phoenix's paretns house (if let's say they asked him to sort their attic while they went to canada or something lol) and then see other stuff that ryuu had and phoenix learns about his ancestor

  • @RedRiotGamez
    @RedRiotGamez Рік тому +120

    1. You need to make a part 2 of this.
    2. The cutoff from you (Debastian) was breaking the 4th wall like never before and I loved it.
    3. Ryu and Susa being Phoenix's great grandparents is genius.
    4. Maybe Phoenix does not need parents, maybe he needs... a flowery wife.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +43

      About Susato, I read somewhere that the TGAA team has confirmed that Susato canonically married Ryunosuke and that she is indeed Phoenix's ancestor too. Not sure if someone can confirm this though

    • @kayozhydra
      @kayozhydra Рік тому

      @@debastiansebeste The best I could find at a quick search is a few articles on Old School Gamers. Not exactly how reliable that site is, considering I don't see a source on the page.

    • @Jimz729
      @Jimz729 Рік тому +20

      @@debastiansebesteat least it was 10-20 years later- unlike a certain relationship in ace attorney

    • @themastermindvigilante4029
      @themastermindvigilante4029 Рік тому +6

      @@debastiansebeste I don’t think Naruhodu really is interested with a relationship but who knows, we can’t really know for sure.
      Even the wiki, which already contains enough informations of the characters, doesn’t say they feel any romantic feelings.
      I personnally feel more a really deep siblings/close co-workers relationship than actual romance between them but it’s just an opinion, it’s not something we can know for sure.
      As for Phoenix, he cannonically had a girlfriend when he was a university student even tho it was really confusing for him at this time, not knowing he dated Iris and not Dahlia all this time, resulting to this "betrayal" in this murder case where he also almost lost his life for the first time.
      Tho, perhaps we will never know if he intend to come back with her at some point (because i don’t think she get the death penalty even if she was Godot’s accomplice in his murder plan).
      It’s also possible this betrayal kinda made him lost his faith in love to the point of becoming a sort of workaholic.
      It’s pretty confusing to actually what can happen for both of them as the game didn’t focus on that.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +18

      @@themastermindvigilante4029 look, since Ryunosuke is Phoenix's ancestor, it means he had at least one child. Given the era he lived it, he most definitely got married (99% of the time you don't have children without marriage during the Meiji era :p). Especially since Phoenix has the same last name as Ryunosuke (Naruhodo). Therefore we can safely assume that Ryunosuke did get into a relationship.
      Now whether Phoenix's great great grandmother is Susato, Gina or some other random lady, is up to the fans' headcanons I believe

  • @huldanoren951
    @huldanoren951 9 місяців тому +5

    I've always headcanoned him as being raised by a single mother

  • @themastermindvigilante4029
    @themastermindvigilante4029 Рік тому +37

    I once wanted to make my own fancases related to Phoenix but it’s really hard to imagine a backstory for a character that wasn’t supposed to have one to begin with. But yeah, i really want to see what can be Phoenix family situation or something related to that.
    Edit: The end of the video seems a good way to begin...

  • @k.n2574
    @k.n2574 Рік тому +62

    This remind me of a fan comic series, in which Ryonosuke and Susato's ghost follows Phoenix through his career.
    Those comics were very funny, especially one in which Mia could see them.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +9

      That sounds interesting. Got a link or remember the title? I'd love to read them

    • @ZoulStar
      @ZoulStar Рік тому +3

      @@debastiansebestethe fan comic series is called Ghost Ryunosuke. I can’t send the link because UA-cam won’t let me and deleted my comments, but google searching the name will lead you to it.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +3

      @@ZoulStar found it thanks!

    • @ZoulStar
      @ZoulStar Рік тому +1

      @@debastiansebesteno problem!

  • @GattoCatto_
    @GattoCatto_ Рік тому +27

    I love how Athena is taller than Maya, Trucy and Apollo

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +14

      She always gave me major tall girl vibes, and she canonically is taller than all of them 😂 (let's not forget Apollo is 5'6 only if we count his hair :p)

  • @spiderzsonic6581
    @spiderzsonic6581 Рік тому +11

    2:40 funny reference
    although in reality they are not that far away for what i undestand 😂
    Ryunosuke is 23 in 1899
    And (at least in the american version) Phoenix/Ryuonichi born in 1992
    So, Ryunosuke is his great-great-grandfather at most

  • @punprincess3214
    @punprincess3214 8 місяців тому +7

    this made me decide to write a fic of Phoenix's family and decided to make him the son of some prominent family that he just doesn't talk about as he doesn't want all the attention for being the son of said family.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  8 місяців тому +5

      I prefer underdog characters with humble backgrounds, but good luck with it 👌

    • @punprincess3214
      @punprincess3214 8 місяців тому +4

      @@debastiansebeste I just found the thought of everyone being like 'YOU CHOOSE TO BE A STRUGGLING DEFENSE ATTORNEY!?' funny, and we know nothing about phoenix's family beside his lineage with TGAA so any interpretation is fair game!😄😄

  • @cantdrawcircles478
    @cantdrawcircles478 Рік тому +16

    Honestly, Trucy pretty much is apart of everyone's family... Great video, loved the mention of Ryunosuke and Susato!

  • @rogue1248
    @rogue1248 Рік тому +11

    someone definitely needs to channel Ryunnosuke..

  • @LastCryKris
    @LastCryKris Рік тому +46

    Not sure if you already knew, but according to Shu Takumi, it's because he wanted Phoenix to be a protagonist that players could easily relate to, which is why his family is never brought up. Aside from that, great video as always!

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +30

      Yeah I had read that interview and it makes perfect sense. Though in the latest games Phoenix has left the "faceless protagonist" position and become much more as he's now older, so him still not having a full fledged backstory seems funny today xD

    • @floricel_112
      @floricel_112 Рік тому +14

      ​@@debastiansebeste I mean, it doesn't get much better than your great (great) grandpa being THE great ace attorney who befriended THE Sherlock Holmes AND defended famous japanese poet Souseki Natsume twice

    • @ejelecflametails6657
      @ejelecflametails6657 7 місяців тому +4

      You know what would be a good storyline? Having Phoenix's Japanese British (in the American version anyways, Japanese version would say either American British or pure British) distant relative who would go by Ryuji Naruhodo (Or Falcon Wright). Maybe

    • @joannamysluk8623
      @joannamysluk8623 6 місяців тому +7

      @@ejelecflametails6657 I absolutely LOVE the headcanon that every son of the Naruhodou/Wright family is named either some name related to a dragon or a bird, depending on the language.
      Would be even funnier if all of the family's daughters (excluding Trucy and any other possible adopted children that already had names by the time the family adopted them) got the same treatment, but reversed (bird-related names in JP, dragon-related ones in EN). It would work ESPECIALLY well considering that in East Asia, the Fenghuang/Hou-ou (basically their version of a phoenix) symbolizes femininity, contrarily to the dragon.

  • @LizzieourWorld
    @LizzieourWorld Рік тому +6

    Feenie, Feenie, always watch out about what conversations you have at any given time

  • @nickolasobjectionlolstuff2837
    @nickolasobjectionlolstuff2837 Рік тому +20

    That fourth wall breaking ending felt like something I'd do, lol. This was great.
    Funnily enough I almost did a video on Phoenix's family, but I scrapped it (I think it's in one of the Unreleased/Scrapped video compilations?). It was mostly just headcanon stuff. I love the idea that everybody else has these super complicated and drama filled families and Phoenix's family is just really boring and normal.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +11

      Ikr? I thought having a character have a simple normal family (no parents who died in an accident, no criminals, no general family drama) would break the mold for once xD

    • @AldinRamic
      @AldinRamic Рік тому +5

      ​@debastiansebeste Yeah, that would be refreshing Someone in the series who didn't have some family issues.

  • @Oiki_chan1221
    @Oiki_chan1221 7 місяців тому +4

    I love how determined susato is. Star (from Star vs. The forces of evil) cant even say great after saying it like 5 times to eclipsa

  • @darkkirb206
    @darkkirb206 Рік тому +9

    This was a good video. We don’t really know much about Phoenix’s history aside from the class trial where he befriended Edgeworth and Larry, him becoming a lawyer to meet Edgeworth, and his college years when the Dahlia incident happened. This is by design since this was done to make Phoenix a more accessible protagonist that’s easy to relate to. Aside from Ryunosuke, we know nothing of parents or any other relatives.

    • @walterwhite4398
      @walterwhite4398 Рік тому

      Even though a filler episode you could see phoenix mom but only her feet

  • @jokodihaynes419
    @jokodihaynes419 Рік тому +6

    i hope you do a video on Wright researching his ancestor a good follow up to this video

  • @Ryu_Naru
    @Ryu_Naru Рік тому +10

    This is what a call a GREAT debate

  • @doctordebate2023
    @doctordebate2023 7 місяців тому +3

    Apollo and Athena giving the "wtf" face is the highlight of my day

  • @candicoated2001
    @candicoated2001 Рік тому +2

    I loved that you made a video about this. I made a Tumblr poll a while back about his parental situation.
    My favorite fan headcanon is that he has two moms or that he was raised by aunt or grandmother or some other relative.

  • @jcj268
    @jcj268 Рік тому +8

    Ok now I wanna see Rynosuke and Phoenix meeting through Maya

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +6

      I'll probably do it eventually in my Herlock dance of Deduction series (when I finally manage to continue it, that is)

  • @mint7442
    @mint7442 3 місяці тому +1

    Edgeworth standing beside Wright and just staring at him for 90% of this episode strangely makes it funnier

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  3 місяці тому +4

      Edgeworth casually thinking whether he should toss Wright into the logic chess dimension and make him spill the beans

  • @aplusgamer6595
    @aplusgamer6595 4 місяці тому +3

    You know, now I kinda hope AA 7 gives some mention to Phoenix’s family

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  4 місяці тому +3

      If he's lucky he'll have something more grounded than the "Apollo and the Sahdmadhis" treatment xD

    • @aplusgamer6595
      @aplusgamer6595 4 місяці тому +2

      I’ve actually given a lot of thought about an AA game where we get a deep dive into Phoenix’s family, but it would actually be Athena being the main character of it

  • @razorrat11
    @razorrat11 Рік тому +10

    Bro had to shut the video off like the Chinese censorships smh.
    JK this was a pretty hilarious watch, lmao.

  • @kenrichgumanid9235
    @kenrichgumanid9235 Рік тому +5

    2:53 HOLD IT!
    If your theory is Susato being the ancestress of Phoenix Wright, then that means she could've also been the defense attorney!

  • @bokudakegain
    @bokudakegain Рік тому +2

    I like how someone made subtitles just to include DD in the spoiler secrion. This is what I call dedication

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +2

      Actually I did it myself when I realized that I hadn't included it in the video xD

    • @bokudakegain
      @bokudakegain Рік тому +1

      @@debastiansebeste well, I doubt anyone has ever played SOJ, but not DD. But anyway respect for the deed

  • @DonaldTrumpFree
    @DonaldTrumpFree Рік тому +7

    We need a part 2 of this and of Larry

  • @mimiquoi7380
    @mimiquoi7380 Рік тому +6

    Omg what if Maya channel Ryonosuke's spirit ? 👀

  • @carterferris07
    @carterferris07 Рік тому +1

    I’ve been watching these videos for the few days, and I have been enjoying every single one of them!

  • @patrickh6571
    @patrickh6571 Рік тому +4

    Okay... Portsman and Sherlock Holmes are ordered to roll the Credits. The same Holmes who is friends with Ryuunosuke, who is Phoenix' great grand... ... ... father. So he isn't only a famous Detective, but also able to slow down aging 😂
    Phoenix' family isn't mentioned, but actually, we already had Apollo, Miles, Athena and Trucy... So it's probably just another Drama. Larry's Family on the other hand would be quite intersting, I bet they are a bunch of pervs; a Grandpa like Muten-Roshi and a brother like Sanji 😂

  • @onwu6894
    @onwu6894 Рік тому +14

    Tbf, the family mystery I'm most curious about in Ace Attorney is Edgeworth's true mother. We know for a fact his mother didn't take care of him after DL-6, which probably suggests her mother isn't aware of his existence or is dead. I have this crazy theory that her true mother is Misty Fey, which would make Maya, Mia and Edgeworth half-brothers. We're told that at some point, she married and had Mia and Maya, but her husband died when Maya was young. I may be grasping at straws here, but... what if the husband actually committed suicide after finding out Misty's extramarital affair with Gregory? Since three years passed between Mia's birth and Edgeworth's birth, maybe they were having difficulties having a second child, and Morgan's hatred towards Misty made her afraid and wanting desperately to have two children just in case, thus the affair. After that, she would have told Gregory to raise Miles on his own and keep it a secret unless it was necessary. To support this, I would like to mention the following pieces of evidence:
    1. Edgeworth's logic ability could possibly stem from having spiritual power. When he goes into Logic mode, he abstracts himself from the outer world, and we can listen some voices singing, with tones vaguely reminding of other spiritual powers such as the one unleashed by the Magatama. The same would happen with logic chess; others are unaware of the chess pieces defending their secrets, yet we can see them since Edgeworth sees them; just as the Magatama.
    2. Edgeworth has some greyish eyes if you look at them very closely, if you look at Misty Fey's sprite in the T&T game, they appear to be quite similar.
    At this point, I don't have anything else that can point to this fact, yet I believe I may be onto something here. Any help/suggestions/opinions regarding this matter are well received. Nothing further, Your Honor.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +10

      Actually, the theory fits much better if you see it like that: Maya was young when her father died. Maya also happened to be 2-3 years old when Gregory Edgeworth was murdered by Manfred Von Karma.
      Boom. Miles and Maya aren't half siblings, they're full siblings. One explanation as to why Gregory and Misty lived separately and Gregory had Miles with him while Misty kept Mia and Maya was because Mia and Maya were girls , so they could be trained as spirit mediums. While Miles was a boy, so there was no place for him or Gregory in Kurain, so the two Edgeworths lived in the city. And tbh I don't think Edgeworth has any spiritual power because supposedly only the ladies of the Fey clan inherit that power. Plus it would undermine his powers of deduction by crediting them to a supernatural power instead of being his own brains.
      I genuinely don't think of the Misty/Gregory theory much, but it fits too perfectly if I'm to be honest

    • @onwu6894
      @onwu6894 Рік тому +2

      @@debastiansebeste Indeed, your explanation benefits my theory a lot, If we look at Maya and Edgeworth hair and eye color, they're much more similar than Maya and Mia's, which would also lead me to believe that they're indeed full siblings. I had forgotten about the only girl medium part, which also explains why Gregory left.
      Nonetheless, I don't fully agree with your point of the spiritual power. I think even if it is significantly lower, some of it would still be inside Edgeworth, and would simply allow him to visualize the facts in his brain, as we can see when he uses logic; this doesn't undermine his deduction powers, when he deduces in the AAI games, nothing special happens, same as when using logic, he just connects his thoughts by himself.
      Regardless, there would be a little issue here which would need clarification. Who is Mia's father? Is it also Gregory? I think it unlikely in light of the aforementioned, but then it'd become much harder to know.
      I understand your feelings regarding the theory since the only conclusive aspect supporting it is that it fits chronologically, but I think maybe further consideration could lead to more evidence in favor of it.

  • @Monhamd1000
    @Monhamd1000 Рік тому +2

    Okay, i thought it would be a little depressing but it ended up way more funnier lmao

  • @George-iz2ce
    @George-iz2ce Рік тому +1

    Hahaaha I happenned to have recently gone through all your videos and the "not again" line killed me!

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +2

      "Mr. Wright! Now YOU are lying! 😡😡😡"
      - Angryna Cykes

  • @jokodihaynes419
    @jokodihaynes419 Рік тому +1

    it put a smile on my face mate i needed it

  • @starmic1852
    @starmic1852 Рік тому +3

    Doesn't the events of DGS take place in late 19th century? If so, ryunosuke and susato would only be about 4 parental generations away assuming each generation had children around mid 20s. We know Phoenix Wright was born in 1992 so the time difference would be about 100 years.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +6

      Yeah you're right. The great greats are exaggerated here. But since Sherlock Holmes exists in the game, it's safe to assume that it takes place somewhere near 1890. Therefore Ryunosuke was probably born in 1870. And if we add a new generation every 20-25 years, that means Ryunosuke and Phoenix are apart by 3-4 greats. Which makes Ryunosuke Phoenix's great-great-great(-great) grandfather

  • @stevenreyes7779
    @stevenreyes7779 Рік тому +2

    I had always assumed phoenix’s parents were dead tbh, great video as always tho

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +2

      Eh, dead parents is a very common backstory for main characters (and kinda lazy ngl :p)

  • @kenrichgumanid9235
    @kenrichgumanid9235 Рік тому +2

    A certain PyWright fan-case shows that Phoenix had a grandmommy.

  • @JobeBrianLabasan
    @JobeBrianLabasan Рік тому +1

    Sholmes: Let's Commence ( Begins Dancing )

  • @d4rkpr1nc39
    @d4rkpr1nc39 Рік тому +1

    Oh boy...you opened up a can of worms by showing that the great ace attorney duo are a couple somewhere down the line and people gonna be arguing over the fact that the game shoulda been its own thing...I'm up for it.
    All seriousness, great writing and work yet again. Can't wait for the part 2 of the one with Apollo and Holmesy' Deduction
    All

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +4

      Yeah I hope I'll he able to work on the Course Correction eventually. I really want to see it done too xD
      As for the Ryunosuke Susato couple, I read an interview somewhere where the developer team of TGAA said that Susato canonically got married to Ryunosuke and that she is indeed Phoenix's ancestor too. I'm still waiting for confirmation from someone else though because I can't find the source that I read lol

    • @d4rkpr1nc39
      @d4rkpr1nc39 Рік тому +1

      @@debastiansebeste ah that makes a lot more sense now. Shame that I'm actually one of the few people who preferred the game shoulda been its own thing lol

  • @haratchi2009
    @haratchi2009 Рік тому +3

    First
    Finally someone talk about that

  • @arlo9754
    @arlo9754 Рік тому +1

    well this was interesting, in my eyes, since basically everyone had family drama, they just didn't want to bring up potential drama for him either, if he had said drama that is, which without asking, there would be no way of knowing

  • @FranziskaVonProdigySlays
    @FranziskaVonProdigySlays Рік тому +1

    I AM VERY CONFUSED WITH THE ENDING BUT I LOVE THIS OH MY LORD

    • @FranziskaVonProdigySlays
      @FranziskaVonProdigySlays Рік тому +3

      @@billy-the-butcher oh my god. THIS HAPPENED TO YOU TOO???? im talking about the fact that i cant reply or heart to two other people's comments too, and they cant heart or reply to mine. theyre names are "Rosie", and "actual miu is waifu". WHY DOES UA-cam HATE OBJECTIONTUBERS???

  • @Michael_Irohazaka
    @Michael_Irohazaka Рік тому +3

    What the...??? I'm taken aback by the end 😂

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +2

      I admit I had to force them to cut the vid before Susato got Mia into the game too xD

  • @robloxwithacetheavenger4908
    @robloxwithacetheavenger4908 Рік тому +2

    Phoenix is the great great great great great grandson of Ryunosuke Naruhodo

  • @LaynaTV-xk2nc
    @LaynaTV-xk2nc Рік тому +2

    I really wondered about Wright's family.. But it solved(?) maybe..?

  • @timothylinga1427
    @timothylinga1427 Рік тому

    I leaved AA for a bit, returned, and see this masterpiece. I'm glad i didn't completely abandoned AA

  • @TheamazonA
    @TheamazonA Рік тому +1

    Phoenixs parents were knky ever heard of one time in the anime (episode turnabout promise) where phoenix edgeworth and larry meet missile and phoenix mentions his parents wouldnt let him keep missile but i dont think that counts

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +1

      Well that means that they must be alive and well. Finally a defense attorney with living parents xD

    • @Donsive
      @Donsive 10 місяців тому

      And also we see a small glimpse of his mother in the flashback in the episode where teen phoenix uses the radio when he reminds Larry of what happened to miles.

  • @strubberyg7451
    @strubberyg7451 Рік тому +1

    A nice video! Two questions:
    1) I think it's fine as a fan canon, but do we have a confirmation that Mikotaba and Naruhodo end up together? They send major OTP energies, but so does Phoenix and Maya, and they aren't agreed as OTP...
    2) Is Ryunosuke that many great grandfather of Phoenix? The latter was born in the 90's, and the former lived in the Meiji era, which wasn't THAT long ago. They lived only 100 years apart, 130 top. That would make Ryunosuke Phoenix great great grandfather, maybe 3 greats...

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +5

      1) I had read somewhere that it was canon that Ryunosuke married Susato. I finally found where I read it again and it was just fan theories pretending that the game devs shared the info. Well, in the end I'll just roll with the Ryunosuke and Susato ship because, let's face it, Ryunosuke did have kids with a lady in order to be Phoenix's ancestor, and over Gina or some other random lady I prefer Susato personally
      2) I didn't really know when the Meiji Era takes place, and since his birth is noted as 19th century, I assumed that Ryunosuke could have been born on the 1800s. In which case it would place him about 7-9 generations behind Phoenix. Now if he was born in the late 1890s-1890 that's a different story. Let's just roll with "Susato probably overcounted the greats :p

    • @strubberyg7451
      @strubberyg7451 Рік тому +4

      @debastiansebeste 1) Did a little bit of googling, TVTrope has a prediction page with that info.
      Someone did phrase the ending of GAA2 as both of them being shipped together (to Japan), so that's the closest to confirmed OTP we're gonna get.
      2) The Meiji Restoration happened at 1868, about 5 generations from the 1990s, assuming the Ace Attorney universe had a similar timeline to our own. Just to emphasize the fuzziness of the AA timeline, the wiki never mentions actual years when covering this period. For the record, we don't even know how long it has been since the Meiji Restoration. We can assume it wasn't that long ago (case 1, Auchi is very Samurai-core, and a lot of people mention all that modern stuff is new to Japan), and we know the game is happening at Victorian England.
      In conclusion, the game happens in the late 19th century.
      ...
      But it's also funny to think that Susato teased her husband by overcounting the generations, implying he's ancient.
      One last thing: Capcom did introduce Phoenix to Ryunosuke. It was a cute way to announce 15th anniversary stuff, like the anime, a concert, GAA2 and maybe DD. You probably know about it, but on the off chance you don't, check it out, it's cute!

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +4

      @@strubberyg7451 ah yeah you mean that voiced over trial with Phoenix/Maya and Ryunosuke/Susato. It was funny ngl, and I loved the voice acting

  • @spixk.
    @spixk. 8 місяців тому +1

    question, do you plan to make a part 2?

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  8 місяців тому +1

      Not really. Unless I come up with some good follow-up idea, right now I don't think there's much reason to continue it

  • @YusifTheBaldEagle
    @YusifTheBaldEagle 8 місяців тому

    0:07 Ooh-eee, because of the spoiler warning, I am thinking of playing every AA game after completing Turnabout Succession, thing is... I never completed any Ace Attorney game, but I wouldn't even be bothered to play the TGAA series and the crossover game, despite this however... I find your videos all entertaining.
    Sincerely, me, the author of the love letter to you.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  8 місяців тому

      Friendly advice, from someone who absolutely loved the TGAA games even more than most mainline games: Try it and you might like them more than you expect :D

    • @YusifTheBaldEagle
      @YusifTheBaldEagle 8 місяців тому

      @@debastiansebeste What should I exactly try?

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  8 місяців тому

      @@YusifTheBaldEagle the TGAA games lol

    • @YusifTheBaldEagle
      @YusifTheBaldEagle 8 місяців тому

      @@debastiansebeste Is it okay if i choose not to do so?

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  8 місяців тому +1

      @@YusifTheBaldEagle I dunno lol

  • @kenrichgumanid9235
    @kenrichgumanid9235 Рік тому +1

    OBJECTION!
    I think I have a theory that there is an English/British Counterpart of Ryunosuke.

  • @opii9163
    @opii9163 Рік тому

    Apart from the banger video.....
    Larry has a 3d model what?!

    • @uldaman5376
      @uldaman5376 Рік тому +4

      SoJ DLC

    • @strubberyg7451
      @strubberyg7451 Рік тому +2

      Thought so. Glad he actually became an artist. He actually followed that dream...

  • @55alegria
    @55alegria 9 місяців тому +1

    Do you think that Phoenix's parents disowned him for going to art school instead of being a doctor or something like that?

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  9 місяців тому +1

      No idea, but I'm sure even if they did they took it back after he became a lawyer xD

    • @55alegria
      @55alegria 9 місяців тому +1

      @@debastiansebeste Yeah, but if that was the case, I think that maybe Phoenix would decided to never talk to them again. It's not really good to have family that gives you conditional love...

  • @_SparkHere
    @_SparkHere Рік тому +3

    Debastian (0:00): "Spoilers for the Trilogy, Apollo Justice, and Spirit of Justice following"
    Athena (0:47): Add Dual Destinies in there too.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому

      Kek I noticed I had forgotten to put the DD warning too late, by now all I could do was add it in the video description yesterday lol

  • @H4CKP4CK
    @H4CKP4CK 4 місяці тому +1

    PART 2 PLSSS

  • @EnderGrad
    @EnderGrad Рік тому +1

    2:52 Hold it. WHAT GRANDMOTHER??

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +4

      I read somewhere that Susato is Phoenix's great-great(...) great grandmother because she did marry Ryunosuke
      I just can't find the source I read, lol

    • @strubberyg7451
      @strubberyg7451 Рік тому

      They give major OTP energy in the GAA duology. So does Phoenix and Maya, though.
      I see it as a compelling fanon, but nothing official. Unless I see proof, which is honestly unnecessary. Let the fans imagine their own canon on this one...

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +1

      @@strubberyg7451 yeah I found the article I was talking about, and in the end it was just bs written by fans, in a way to make it seem like the game devs confirmed the Ryusato ship. Damn it. And I was saying it with such overflowing confidence xD
      Oh well nevermind, since Ryunosuke must have married and have had children since he's Phoenix's ancestor, personally over Gina or any other random lady, I prefer him with Susato

  • @SolidSonicTH
    @SolidSonicTH Місяць тому

    So does this take place when Phoenix is like...50? He said he's been doing court stuff for like 25 years and he was 24 when he started his career...

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Місяць тому

      I thought it was obvious he was referring to the school class trial when he was ten and Edgeworth defended him ;/

  • @thevideogamemaster8173
    @thevideogamemaster8173 Рік тому

    Wow... Talk about breaking the fourth wall

  • @TheTrueTurtlegirl
    @TheTrueTurtlegirl Рік тому

    Oh gosh the fourth wall broke

  • @AviatorJC
    @AviatorJC Рік тому +1

    Debeste cutoff.
    And debeste revelation!

  • @ЯрославКузнецов-ы3ж

    Так у фёдора нету семьи? Мия,майя вот уже что-то получается

  • @officially_jazzy
    @officially_jazzy Рік тому

    I'd never thought Ryuno and Susato would date, or even get married. I just see them as a silly duo, but what am I supposed to know.
    Also, the whole great x1000 grandpa is kinda exaggerating it. Ryuno was born in the 19th century, during the Meiji era. And Nicky boy was born in 1992-1993. I did the math (don't ask how) and I got 70, meaning Ryuno would be 70 when Nucky was born. Idk if I did the math wrong or something else, but hey it's just a theory....... A GAME THEORY the court is ajourned.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +2

      No way Ryunosuke was 70 when Phoenix was born. We can check when the game takes place mostly by the fact that Sherlock Holmes exists. Sherlock's actions in the books took place from 1880 to 1914. Given that Herlock is quite young (34 years old I think?), but met Mikotoba 10 years ago, we can theorize that he met Mikotoba in 1880. Therefore he met Ryunosuke in 1890. Therefore Ryunosuke must be born somewhere in the late 1860s (probably 1868). Which means that if we add a generation every 20-25 years, Ryunosuke could be from a great-great-great grandfather to a great-great-great-great-grandfather of Phoenix.
      Ergo, I may have exaggerated on the greats, but Ryu is either three or four greats a grandfather to Phoenix

    • @officially_jazzy
      @officially_jazzy Рік тому

      I apologize for my terrible math, I do quite agree with your theory@@debastiansebeste.
      (Yes I am talking like Susato)

  • @aa14-h9x
    @aa14-h9x 2 місяці тому

    In trials and tribulations if you present sister bikini profile to larry he says that sister bikini is is mom

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  2 місяці тому +1

      Phoenix and everyone imply that he's not to be believed, plus he changes narrative a few seconds later

    • @aa14-h9x
      @aa14-h9x 2 місяці тому

      @@debastiansebeste good point

  • @nickolasobjectionlolstuff2837

    Oh yeah, also, I've been meaning to ask how you get pairs of 3 characters. At first I thought it was some clever trickery and you put two characters in one, but the more you do it, the less convinced I am of that theory, lol

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +1

      It's really quite simple. In the frames where you see 3 characters here, Phoenix's sprites are pop-ups. Each pose I've turned into a pop-up and placed it over the paired Larry and Edgeworth. However, if I simply placed one of Phoenix's sprites in a frame, I wouldn't be able to fit both his talking and idle sprite in the same frame. So I break each frame where Phoenix talks into 2 frames, one where he does the talking and one where he stops.
      Imagine it works like this:
      Frame 1 (Talking sprite): blah blah blah[#p100]
      [Move immediately to next frame, but without merging]
      Frame 2 (Idle sprite): [#p700]
      (The p100 in frame 1 is there to give some time to the blip sound to stop normally, without getting abruptly cut)

    • @nickolasobjectionlolstuff2837
      @nickolasobjectionlolstuff2837 Рік тому

      @@debastiansebeste Oh wow, that's really clever. I never would've thought of that. Thanks for revealing the secret, lol

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому

      ​@@nickolasobjectionlolstuff2837one last thing I forgot to mention, since the frame's active character will be either Edgeworth or Larry in this example, don't forget to give the frame the custom name Phoenix and the no talking animation mode, so you avoid having Phoenix and e.g. Edgeworth talking at the same time :p

  • @the_saucepan
    @the_saucepan Рік тому

    phoenix when his family: nuh uh
    legit everyone else: *fym nuh uh*
    edit: someone should make a longer version of this but change the reason why because ajisdgiashfhjabfj idk, it jus feels right

  • @indiction2009
    @indiction2009 Рік тому +1

    Morning, so i wanted to ask to you mr.? I'll just call you mr. Debastion. Anyways what was the most dissapointing thing in ace Attorney history for you?
    Was it a specific character, specific momment, etc.

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  Рік тому +3

      I'm generally not much disappointed with AA stuff, but if I had to pick one, I'd say it was either Phoenix forgetting his whole character arc in Apollo Justice and reverting back to the goofy Phoenix in Dual Destinies, or Apollo's sudden depression phase in Dual Destinies where he kept that super edgy look with the eyepatch and Clay's jacket

    • @timothylinga1427
      @timothylinga1427 Рік тому +1

      ​@@debastiansebeste i agree with you

  • @godzillayaz
    @godzillayaz Рік тому

    Well this was something lol

  • @KarlSebbie
    @KarlSebbie 8 місяців тому

    Description: I’ll add the codes tomorrow
    5 months later and we haven’t seen the codes yet 💀

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  8 місяців тому

      I knew someone would notice eventually xD Guess it's time to add the codes lol

    • @debastiansebeste
      @debastiansebeste  8 місяців тому

      There

    • @KarlSebbie
      @KarlSebbie 8 місяців тому

      @@debastiansebeste Thanks lol