Hopefully someone sees this. 2K clear contains isocyanates, there is no filter mask that can remove isocyanates (the odor threshold is 10x higher than the toxicity threshold), you must use a fresh air system. And since skin exposure is also toxic, you need a full face mask. 3M's website will confirm this. Isocyanate exposure is cumulative and permanent, and doesn't need to cause a severe reaction to cause problems down the road.
Another thing to help with fumes and all that would have been to get a cheap box fan from wal mart and one of the big air filters ( so you don't destroy the fan and whatever is outside the fan) and just put that behind what you're painting and have it blow out of the "booth". Used to do that with a big tent when I've painted most of my other car parts.
Fresh air system means that air is pumped into your mask by an external source, so there is no need to filter the isocyanates. Usually this is an air compressor located away from where you are spraying (though you could use a SCBA tank or O2 tank). If you use your standard garage compressor, you do need a series of filters to make the air breathable, as there is usually oil mist in the output. @@ronanoconnell9518
thanks so much dave - Porch paint jobs are severely underrated. I looked at tons of options, but if you just google your paint code (i.e. “BMW 288 morea green spray paint”) you should find a number of providers who custom mix + inject into a can. Apparently they mix up a custom batch when you order, then use a special tool to throw it in the aerosol can with the propellant.
How many cans did you need to buy for the bumper? Doing mine the exact same and I bought the same kit with primer, base, clear. just wondering if I needed more.
I replaced the bumper on my truck a couple of weeks ago. My son ran into something so we had to do lights and stuff too. It was also about 150. Thee stuff I used wasn’t so bad. I think it was Duplicolor . My husband built me a paint tent, and I got it done in no time. It was little cold on the day i painted it. So I used my hair dryer to warm up the bumper and then spray it. Then I dried it. I think that was your issue. Temp wreaks havoc on spray paint. Be glad it didn’t come up cloudy. I think your work is beautiful. I love the color. It looks better than the original bumper. Much more stylish. After not too long you won’t notice the color difference. (We also got most of our parts from amazon. It looked like we were having a car delivered to our house piece by piece!)
haha thank you for the kind words! My “booth” definitely could have been warmer, great idea with the hair dryer. It sounds like your project went super smoothly all things considered and i’m glad to hear the truck is back on the road - i’m sure you saved a boatload over going to a body shop :)
Have a few question: 1. The bumper is already primed, why did you put in another primer coat? 2. How many base coat and clear coat did you put in? 3. Do you need grease remover or will IPA work just fine
Good questions. 1. It was raw plastic, no primer comes on this one. some other aftermarket bumpers come with primer, but they’re usually grey and the primer isn’t the best. 2. I believe I did 3 layers of base and three coats of clear. Base were light coats, clear were relatively heavy gloss coats. 3. IPA should be ok, you’ll just need something to remove solvents and finger grease. If not, the paint will fail over time. Wax and grease remover is cheap enough in bulk that I’d recommend just spending the extra $10 to get some (plus, you’ll have some for other projects - useful stuff). Hope that helps :)
i waited a solid month or so, and it kinda baked in the sun. Clear gets harder over time so the longer you can wait the better, but if you’re careful i bet a couple weeks should be fine!
I think I did it with three cans - kinda depends how opaque the blue is (i.e. how easily will it cover your primer) but I would think 3-4 should get you ample paint thickness.
I think i did 2-3 coats of primer (specifically the stuff for plastic panels/bumpers) and 2-3 coats of base color - but coats of color kind of depends on how opaque your paint color is and what primer you have underneath, so I went by eye until there was no primer showing through, then 1-2 more good coats on top of that.
unfortunately there’s no direct kit - I just sourced these main components: - isopropyl alcohol - wax and grease remover - scuffing pads - adhesion promoter (1 can) - flexible primer surfacer for bumpers (2-3 cans) - your paint match base coat (2-3 cans) - your clear coat of choice - i used 2k very carefully (2-3 cans) - tack cloths - a heavy duty respirator :) It would be cool if someone had a kit, but i opted to build one myself. Hope this helps!
yep - it’s the exact same fog light, but the side bracket that bolts to the bottom of the bumper support is slightly different than non-m bumpers. Luckily it all came included with the new bumper bumper.
try some wire twists! Kinda like these: amzn.to/3SkLhyQ then just find the right size (pretty small) twist them on to the tiny mounting rods inside the bumper to hold the grill in place. They haven’t let me down yet.
that is a great question - If you have the tiny metal crush washers that come with, press the grill into its corresponding pegs from behind the bumper, then one by one use some needle nose pliers to press FLAT on either side of each washer to push it over it’s peg. Push each one all the way down so it holds the grill in place. honestly it’s an awful system, so another option would be to literally melt each plastic peg and bend it over to hold the grill in. no matter what the mounts are pretty dodgy
Hopefully someone sees this.
2K clear contains isocyanates, there is no filter mask that can remove isocyanates (the odor threshold is 10x higher than the toxicity threshold), you must use a fresh air system. And since skin exposure is also toxic, you need a full face mask. 3M's website will confirm this.
Isocyanate exposure is cumulative and permanent, and doesn't need to cause a severe reaction to cause problems down the road.
Pinned! This is true, don’t want to put anyone in danger.
Another thing to help with fumes and all that would have been to get a cheap box fan from wal mart and one of the big air filters ( so you don't destroy the fan and whatever is outside the fan) and just put that behind what you're painting and have it blow out of the "booth". Used to do that with a big tent when I've painted most of my other car parts.
@@knownaschubbs hindsight 2020, I definitely should have done this. Great idea.
Hey, what do you mean by fresh air system?
Fresh air system means that air is pumped into your mask by an external source, so there is no need to filter the isocyanates. Usually this is an air compressor located away from where you are spraying (though you could use a SCBA tank or O2 tank). If you use your standard garage compressor, you do need a series of filters to make the air breathable, as there is usually oil mist in the output. @@ronanoconnell9518
just found your page because im looking for an e36 myself. Man, you just gained a sub and a true fan. Sick build bro.
bro THANK YOU that means a ton, I appreciate you saying that
Wow looks great. Came out better than the expected a porch paint job! Where can you get paint matched paint in a can? BMW paint code?
thanks so much dave - Porch paint jobs are severely underrated. I looked at tons of options, but if you just google your paint code (i.e. “BMW 288 morea green spray paint”) you should find a number of providers who custom mix + inject into a can. Apparently they mix up a custom batch when you order, then use a special tool to throw it in the aerosol can with the propellant.
How many cans did you need to buy for the bumper? Doing mine the exact same and I bought the same kit with primer, base, clear. just wondering if I needed more.
Watched this instead of doing my laundry this morning, I think that’s a win for the Logang
logang doesn’t quit and can’t be stopped
I replaced the bumper on my truck a couple of weeks ago. My son ran into something so we had to do lights and stuff too. It was also about 150. Thee stuff I used wasn’t so bad. I think it was Duplicolor . My husband built me a paint tent, and I got it done in no time. It was little cold on the day i painted it. So I used my hair dryer to warm up the bumper and then spray it. Then I dried it. I think that was your issue. Temp wreaks havoc on spray paint. Be glad it didn’t come up cloudy. I think your work is beautiful. I love the color. It looks better than the original bumper. Much more stylish. After not too long you won’t notice the color difference. (We also got most of our parts from amazon. It looked like we were having a car delivered to our house piece by piece!)
haha thank you for the kind words! My “booth” definitely could have been warmer, great idea with the hair dryer. It sounds like your project went super smoothly all things considered and i’m glad to hear the truck is back on the road - i’m sure you saved a boatload over going to a body shop :)
You are doing a great job man
You will be one of my favorite you tubers
That means a lot to hear!! Thank you so much :)
@@logan-taylor I operate the wrecking yard close to we’re you at. If you will need any parts let me know .
@@alijanilamanov2126 WOAH that's awesome! The one up in Lynwood or a different spot? Let's do a video!
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Have a few question:
1. The bumper is already primed, why did you put in another primer coat?
2. How many base coat and clear coat did you put in?
3. Do you need grease remover or will IPA work just fine
Also did you figure out the wires on the bumper? I’m confused i have 2 different wires connecting to the bumper thats similar to yours
Good questions.
1. It was raw plastic, no primer comes on this one. some other aftermarket bumpers come with primer, but they’re usually grey and the primer isn’t the best.
2. I believe I did 3 layers of base and three coats of clear. Base were light coats, clear were relatively heavy gloss coats.
3. IPA should be ok, you’ll just need something to remove solvents and finger grease. If not, the paint will fail over time. Wax and grease remover is cheap enough in bulk that I’d recommend just spending the extra $10 to get some (plus, you’ll have some for other projects - useful stuff).
Hope that helps :)
those should be external air temp sensors! Just pop out the ducts and you should be ok.
@@logan-taylor thanks a lot! I got a 328 convertible too but with black color got it from Seattle! Love the content, keep it up 💯💯💯
@@jonathanwiliusa5682 ayyee I'm in Seattle!! Black convertibles look great man, congrats and best of luck with the bumper project
Cool result!
But why did you paint your bottom lip body color instead of black?
Also, what do you think about Fancy Wide?
underrated youtuber 🤌🏼 you’re in washington too ??
aaayyye thank you!! Yep, in the Seattle area
if you wash your bumper using with car washer gun paint will be spall from different places. so use profitonal paint workshop for this
ive pressure washed the shit out of my bumper for over a year now and no paint has come off! It’s all on the prep work
Thank u
ur videos are entertaining
your comments are nice, thank you
Hello, where did you get the paint. Great work!
Thanks! I believe it was everest automotive?? There are sooo many options depending on your paint code.
How long after can you wash your car? And not worry about damaging the paint
i waited a solid month or so, and it kinda baked in the sun. Clear gets harder over time so the longer you can wait the better, but if you’re careful i bet a couple weeks should be fine!
How much spray paint did you end up using? I’m gonna go the same route on my somoa blue but i don’t know how much to order
I think I did it with three cans - kinda depends how opaque the blue is (i.e. how easily will it cover your primer) but I would think 3-4 should get you ample paint thickness.
How many layers of surfacer and paint do i need to put on? Thank you for your answer!
I think i did 2-3 coats of primer (specifically the stuff for plastic panels/bumpers) and 2-3 coats of base color - but coats of color kind of depends on how opaque your paint color is and what primer you have underneath, so I went by eye until there was no primer showing through, then 1-2 more good coats on top of that.
I wanna do the same. Do you have a link for the paint match kit?
unfortunately there’s no direct kit - I just sourced these main components:
- isopropyl alcohol
- wax and grease remover
- scuffing pads
- adhesion promoter (1 can)
- flexible primer surfacer for bumpers (2-3 cans)
- your paint match base coat (2-3 cans)
- your clear coat of choice - i used 2k very carefully (2-3 cans)
- tack cloths
- a heavy duty respirator :)
It would be cool if someone had a kit, but i opted to build one myself. Hope this helps!
What license plate mount did you use? I think I wanna try and run it with my non-m bumper
Totally! I think it should fit, same tow hook mount location so I don't think there will be any major issues: amzn.to/3Lt9mRh
@@logan-taylor Thanks, ordering! I hope that's your affiliate link!
@@reggiecopter hahaha it is! That's just how Amazon auto-exports on my phone, but I appreciate the support :) Let me know how it fits.
Did you use the same fog light from old one?
yep - it’s the exact same fog light, but the side bracket that bolts to the bottom of the bumper support is slightly different than non-m bumpers. Luckily it all came included with the new bumper bumper.
how did you put the fence on the bumper
try some wire twists! Kinda like these: amzn.to/3SkLhyQ then just find the right size (pretty small) twist them on to the tiny mounting rods inside the bumper to hold the grill in place. They haven’t let me down yet.
I get motion sickness whenever you hold the camera.
how do you put on the grill ??? struggling rn
that is a great question - If you have the tiny metal crush washers that come with, press the grill into its corresponding pegs from behind the bumper, then one by one use some needle nose pliers to press FLAT on either side of each washer to push it over it’s peg. Push each one all the way down so it holds the grill in place. honestly it’s an awful system, so another option would be to literally melt each plastic peg and bend it over to hold the grill in. no matter what the mounts are pretty dodgy
@@logan-taylor i have two that came in a little bag the black or silver ones ?
ok if i’m remembering correctly, the black washer goes on the peg first, then the silver one presses over the peg behind it to hold it all in place.