This Video DESTROYS the Gap Theory | Ken Ham
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- This video DESTROYS the gap theory, which is the idea of millions of years fitting into the Bible. In this video, Ken Ham explains numerous major inconsistencies and issues with this popular worldview.
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I realize the Bible seems to make astonishing statements. But Creation IS astonishing. Life IS astonishing. The things Jesus said and did are astonishing . The wonderful words of life are astonishing. And I am helped by these things in a way nothing else ever has
Evolution is astonishing too - the wonder of nature developing over billions of years. It also has the advantage of being true!
@@Faust2Dr Thats like taking all the pieces of a watch and shaking up in a bag and waiting for time to put it together and make it into watch! A watch needs a watch maker. God spoke the world into existence by his almighty power and took the dust of the earth and formed man then he breathed life into him. Check what science says about the chemical composition of our bodies and see it is the same as the dirt! And he made everything in 6 days and rested on the 7th to give us our week as he doesn't operated in time, he made it for us. He is eternal and decides how everything would be and his science does not show this earth as being more than 6000 years old or that man has evolved for he keeps repeating the same old mistakes over and over again through civilization until he destroys it. We are at that point again where only a Red Sea miracle will save the planet and change culture to put us back on the right track. Man without God is hopeless, just wicked and greedy. We were made to worship God and if we don't we worship ourselves or money, or fame and power or every other vise that satin leads you to believe will make you happy and successful. If you come to the end of that and loose your own soul what have you gained? You will be separated from God forever in torment, just as the devil wants for you... to be with him forever and that won't be pleasant. So ask God to make himself and the truth known to you and you will be surprised at how he does it! Jesus is the light of the world and if you follow him you won't walk in darkness but have the light of life in you to guide you to eternity with him in a new kingdom the way God designed it before the fall of man. Blessings to you.
@Dr Considering it aledgedly takes place over billions of years, plus the relative short lifespans of humans, eyewinesses are by necesity, few and far between, making the aledged requirment of direct observationrequired by scientic endeavor impssible.
@@mrtadreamer - are you saying something can only be true or real if it can be observed by humans? Some things take time, but are still real.
@mrtadreamer direct observation is in no way a requirement of science.
Most science doesn't involve a direct observation.
The only millions of years that exists in the Bible is God has always existed as the Ancient of Days. That's it.
Yes, but time doesn’t exist in the spirit realm where YHVH incarnate in Christ and the holy angels dwell, and the other spirit beings that dwell there. YHVH created time, matter and space for this physical world alone. Spirit beings are not bound to the physical laws of this world, only the creatures YHVH made to live on Earth are bound to the physical laws of this physical realm. We don’t understand how God can reveal Himself to us as Father, Son, and Spirit, and yet also say that He is only one God, because we have no experience with beings from the spiritual realm, as we are bound to this physical world as long as we’re in these flesh bodies, and this is where some believers in Christ become conflicted with the triune nature of YHVH, because His nature, as an eternal spirit being, is beyond anything we’ve experienced on earth. We are made in God’s image, triune beings who are body, sòuI, and spirit in one person, but we can’t separate our body from our sòuI, from our spirit. Since we can’t separate the parts that we consist of, body, sòuI, and spirit, and we don’t have the power of omnipresence, being multiple places at once, like YHVH can, then we have a hard time rationalizing how YHVH can be in the spirit realm, and on the earth at the same time, like He was in Genesis 19, and like He was when He was incarnate in Christ, and other times in scripture, because it’s beyond our finite understanding. It’s like people who have had supernatural experiences with ghosts, or other paranormal experiences, and people who have never experienced those things, nor have they known anyone who has had paranormal experiences, they often have a difficult time believing the stories those who have had paranormal experiences share with others. However, the people who have had supernatural, or paranormal, experiences will never forget it, and they don’t need anyone to believe them, because they know what they saw. If you look at how scripture describes our physical world, you understand that the spirit world is much larger and all around us, but YHVH has hidden it from our eyes for the most part. According to scripture, those invisible spirits that are all around us, they also watch us. Sometimes they try to engage with humans, but God’s Word says we are not to try to communicate with the spirits beyond the veil, because there’s malevolent spirits who deceive humans into thinking they are “angels of light”. This is why we run from the occuIt, because it’s wicked in God’s eyes. The beings across the veil also know who belongs to YHVH through Christ, and who doesn’t.
God exists outside of time, there is no 'millions of years' anywhere in existence.
@Redeemed at YHVH….No we have to understand the difference between the millions of years that are being touted versus the Bible and the literal thousands of years when man has been on earth. We don’t have to know about time in another realm. Just that God created the earth in 6 literal 24 hour days with humans, animals, birds etc. That is the argument…creation or evolution. It can only be creation and a young earth.
@@Redeemed.of.YHVH.thru.Christ the same could've claimed by schizophrenics. Have you any idea where YHWH originated, that supposed god was one of near hundred sons of El, theSun god, and Ashera the moon goddess, the brother Of Yam and Baal among others all.worshipped as gods before the Hebrews became monotheist, YHWH was also called "Lord" he was polytheistic Hebrews god of storms and war, he was morphed into El be moving Elohim plural of El, it's claimed he had an affair with Ashera his mother to do so, your early as atheist as I am, there are thousands of gods worshipped today by millions, that you deny exists, and with no more evidence that they don't exist than you have of the one you claim exist, I just refuse to.accept because you have no evidence to show your believed god exists one more god than you do.
@@Desert-edDave demonstrate outside of time, that there was a time before time,that there is such a thing as outside of space or matter, that there ever was such a thing as nothing. You have as much chance of evidencing any of that as you have of demonstratably evidencing your believed god. Name any one and prove they were born with any knowledge, you cannot, all are born devoid of what knowledge even is, they are born with only the instinct to piss and shit themselves, suck a tit and tell for attention, religions , gods existing just like racism is taught, and of them religion taught is the more evil.
Thank you Ken for keeping us informed and encouraging us to stand on the word of God.
If he was truly after truth he would honestly and without bias compare truthfully both Young Earth Creationism and The Gap Theory in a truthful way investigating which one is correct,but he distorts the truth about the Gap Theory.He is too biased toward YEC because he has invested so many years to it.
@@lionzion1879 what has he said that makes him a con artist, or are you just making a Boogie man out of him?
@@lionzion1879 it's hard to understand because you're not explaining it you're too vague what specify did he claim that makes him a con artist give at least one thing please
@@lionzion1879
Apparently, science is filled with conmen and scams but that's the thing. You don't like to talk about it.
Ken Ham in the context of this video discussed the gap theory in this video and how it doesn't work with the bible. He doesn't need to show any evidence of that to you.
@@MineABear saying with confidence that the oldest evidence we have is from trees dating back 4000 years. Claiming the earth is 6000 years old. This guy is ignoring the evidence that typically surpassed that time frame.
Hey Ken do you drive a car because the whole of the FOSSIL Fuel industry works on an old earth because if they didn't you would be walking everywhere or riding a horse if you were lucky.
Here is another on ever hear of the HEAT PROBLEM of energy released by an old vs a young earth and how this planet would have been incinerated many times over if it were 6,000yrs old- please explain that.
You helped me believe the bible is true, which, in return, helped me realize God is real. I never really thought about religion or God until I saw your videos. Now I read my Bible every day and have made it my purpose to get to know God and his son Jesus. Thank you for sparking my interest in the bible. Ken Ham rocks.
So when was Satan cast to earth?
He had to have been there prior to the creation of Adam.
Also, in the NASB there is no “and” as you showed on the screen. Verse two starts with”the.”
So it is two separate statements not a contrition of verse one.
Thank you Jesus for the wisdom you have given brother Ken.
What authority does Lucifer had to command flood? Only GOD's word of authority command the Great Flood.......
The Bible doesn't really say what went on before the universe's creation. So we really only can account for the time starting with In the beginning.
Or you can believe the lies that nasa told you
It's indeed more controversial than any eschatological teaching ... specifically if you believe if you try to reconcile with Darwin. But again for you to believe in the gap theory you must then explain the idea of death existing before sin. Specifically, Adam's sin...
So you’re saying, God created the Earth in chaos. Please explain Jerimiah 4:23-25 when was that? Certainly, that’s not Noah’s flood. And yes Adam was the first man to sin, but please tell me where was Lucifer thrown? You’re skipping over way too many points.
Well said. He's also ignoring Satan was no longer Lucifer by the time Eden was created. So...was Satan already in the Earth prior to as Genesis clearly indicates? According to Ham, this insinuiates Lucifer fell during Noah's flood? That's not sound doctrine. Typical Ham being a ham.
Chaos is a pagan idea.
Jer 4:5 Declare in Judah and make it heard in Jerusalem and say,
“Blow the trumpet in the land;
Call out, make your voice full, and say,
‘Gather yourselves, and let us go
Into the fortified cities.’
7 A lion has gone up from his thicket,
And a destroyer of nations has set out;
He has gone out from his place
To make your land a desolation.
Your cities will be turned into ruins
Without inhabitant.
13 Behold, he goes up like clouds,
And his chariots like the whirlwind;
His horses are swifter than eagles.
Woe to us, for we are devastated!”
Thank you Ken Ham for stressing the importance of a bible based view of creation without forcing the acceptance of a millions of years timeframe. God is all powerful and doesn't need the gap theory.
Our God spoke it all into existence.
What a powerful God we serve.
Do what no one has ever done, PROVE IT
@Tuokool nothing would convince you against what you ARE indoctrinated to believe, not even evidence, I'm well aware of that, you say your not indoctrinated, yet who told you gods existed in the first instance, and how come out of all the supposed gods to believe in you accept the one of your culture. You accuse me of saying your indoctrinated while with usual evangelical fundamentalist hypocrisy and double standards you claim to know I'm angry, and lack faith in everything,. If any god was proven to exist I would not need to be forced to accept it, I would accept that irrefutable evidence, that's all.any believer has ever asked you claimants for, and it's something you have never delivered. How many millions have you Christians killed in attempting to force all to believe in your supposed god. Again you claiming and other atheist assert something came from nothing, I have never made such a claim and no of no other atheist that has, the only ones I know of that make such a stupid claim are you theist nutters, "everything had an origin but my believed in god, special pleading " and never an iota of evidence to back your ridiculous claim. If any god was proven to exist it would be common global knowledge. If you were really interested in gaining knowledge of where every thing came from how about asking cosmologist, astrophysicist, botanist, biologist, bio chemist and other experts in that field, instead of swallowing what your uneducated charlatan teachers like your pastors and pseudo scientific nutters like Ham feed you with and which you readily like the gullible until you are swallow up. Atheism is a simple answer to a simple question, it's not an ideology, a religion, a belief system, it's merely a statement that one does not accept theist claims of their gods existing, theist claim,allege, assert , " MyGod exist" an atheist is merely one that responds " Ido not believe you" ,nothing else can be attributed to any atheist.
@@jelly7310 and then goes missing . Oh art the God of hide and seek
Regardless one's belief, you cite ONE theory and knock it down, ignoring the numerous other theories. God's word is perfect; no one's theories are.
Thank you for this info. I believe in our Lord's Word - not man's word. Excellent Video
Ok, but doesn't the Bible say that Satans fall happened before the 7 days, or Adam and Eve? I ask this because doesn't the bible also say that Satan was cast down to the earth? So how was he cast down to earth, before earth was even created? Listen, do you really believe that everything God knows and has done is written in this very small, short book of the bible. He only tells us what he thinks is pertinent for us to grow, and to come to know and love him. Remember, God is eternal, always was, and always will be. If you put everything he's ever done in the bible, or things he did before Genesis, then the bible would have no end.
Line on line, precept on precept. Absolutely correct. Well done sir.
You can make a nice living from this nonsense.
30 seconds in and a bare faced lie. The age of the earth comes from _research,_ not atheism. Why do you knowingly lie, Ken?
"Research" has been speculated many times over - filled with inconsistencies and numerous guesses. The biggest accumulation of errors is found in fossil "radio-carbon dating". Sure, the math equations are irrefutable, but the data entered into those equations are hypothetical and speculation at best. Variable are often loosely thrown into the equations with a per-determined outcome. If a scientist wants to convince the public that the earth is millions of years old, he'll find some evidence (often wrapped in a complicated math equation) that "proves it. However, when you unwrap the evidence, you'll find that most of the "proof" was speculation about conditions they claim are millions of years old. It's circular logic. You have to HAVE millions of years to PROVE millions of years.
Ken is right. The bible didnt mean a million years. If it meant a million years it would have said a million years. But the people who wrote the bible didnt have the foggiest idea how old the Earth is. It would have been impressive if they did, but instead, just wrong again.
Ken forgets that the 20,000 fossil sites show that life was wholly different between layers. Physics, chemistry, and geology age the rocks. The existence of layers themselves is not the rationale for millions of years.
Not "forgets", knows it's debunked. They cover all of that on their site. This is just one short video about one topic.
@@logicianbones No. It's not debunked at all.
@@logicianbones
The reality can't be debunked... All he does is pure manipulation and lies, wake up to reality! Read any book about manipulation and see for yourself!
Nature is cruel and unjust and to quote Stephen Fry child bone cancer is cruel and unjust sorry Ken but No actual slam dunk evidence for the existence of a personal loving God in fact everything points to the exact opposite the atheist victory however is everyone's defeat unfortunately because the delusion of immortality is taken away question Ken which I posed to John Lennox when has the advancements of science throughout human history ever been spread with the sword?
So if the Universe is only 6000 years old...how can we see the Andromeda Galaxy which is 2.5 million light years from Earth? There wouldn't have been enough time for the light to reach us?
We don't know yet. We do know several possible models of distant starlight have not been disproven, like Dr. Russel Humphreys' time dilation model, which enjoys a lot of support. It also uses Earth reference frame language so even without time dilation there's a "time zones" model also mentioned in their Answers book IIRC that would have more distant galaxies made earlier in their own reference frame but Earth's frame wouldn't consider them "now" until their light reaches Earth, so basically God hadn't yet created closer in yet.
God stretched out the heavens after he created the light.
@@dontaylor1701 Are you being sarcastic? Or do you think the Andromeda Galaxy was only a few 1000 light-years away when it was created?
@@mashah1085
Your question is for God, not me. I am no authority and neither are you. Right?
Man likes to be their own authority and it leads them to error.
@@dontaylor1701 Then why did you post a response then when questioned on it, decide to dodge?
Any gap theory is unnecessary. When programmers create a video game world, do they create each character as an embryo and plant each tree as a seed? No, programmers will program in people of various ages and an already grown tree.
Great video!
I'll add another thing that I originally heard presented from Dr Bill Barrick's Hebrew Grammar lectures:
In Genesis 1:2 it uses the word "hayah" which is in the QAL Perfect Static Stative meaning it is a state of being (is/was), and the only way it could be an Imperfect Dynamic Stative (state of becoming) is if the following word started with a Lamed prefix, but in Genesis 1:2 it does not, making it a Static Stative "to BE" (in this case "was") and to "EXIST."
To put it simply: The Hebrew text really does NOT in any possible way, shape, or form, allow for any hint of a possibility of a gap theory of the world "becoming" over "millions of years", and is emphatic in that it "was."
Wanna have fun with evolutionists? Have them explain the existence of sheep! It is a studied, proven fact that without protection and care, sheep cannot survive. So, how did they come to be without us being at a level of intelligence to understand their benefit to us, causing us to farm them? Seriously, have them research and explain how sheep evolved. It's impossible without a Creator and direct placement under a pre-established knowledge.
Speaks of evening & morning & day one, day 2, each differentiated from the other. Plain enough
Really? Lot's wife BECAME(hayah) a pillar of salt. And the earth BECAME(hayah) without form and void.
People should be very careful making things up and adding them to scripture just to make scripture "fit" with man's opinions/theories.
The gap theory doesnt belittle God nor make Him less God. He is Eternal and taking 13.2 billion years to create/restore Earth is just like Him and gives us bread crumbs for a trail leading back to His event. I believe in a 6 day (24 hrs) restoration of the Earth just like He had to restore me when I was destroyed by sin.
Problem is there's no evidence for any of that. Creating miraculously is also just like him (water to wine, feeding of the thousands, etc.). How do you know which "like him" to apply? Well, we do -- the one he SAID.
The light from distant stars is billions of years old. The Bible refers to ancient civilizations. It took millions of years for the elements to make life to be available for the creation of man. It wasnt until 10 to the minus 42 seconds that it was cool enough for sub atomic particles to bond to begin to form elements following the Event of God's beginning of time. God took every subatomic particle that He created and compressed them into a sphere the size of a period and created the events that was so controlled by Him that the elements could form over time. It's easy to say He blinked and everything was here, but then no trace of Himself for man to discover and give Him the glory. His eternal nature is displayed in His creation.
@@logicianbones Look up the term "without form and void" in the Bible. It is used in Gen 1:2 and Jer 4:23. God chose to use that term in Jer 4:23 as a cross reference verse to Gen 1:2. Jer 4:23 the earth is "without form and void" following a divine judgement from God. God did not create the earth without form and void, that is ridiculous. I do not believe that there is a gap between Gen 1:1 and 1:2 to support the "science falsely so-called" camps claims of millions and billions of years. The gap between Gen 1:1 and 1:2 could have been 5 minutes or an extremely long time but the fact remains that the term "without form and void" is a Bible term used following judgement. He learn more about creation from the book of Job and Psalms than we do in Genesis. For example in Job 38 the angels where there shouting for joy when Jesus Christ was creating the universe.
@lwm20 if something is created, that means if is fully functional, and done, right? So yes, between God's original creation of earth and it becoming formless and void, something happened to change that fully functioning state. Satan was cast down to earth and given dominion of earth and all that was upon it. Also says that Satan ruled over the kingdoms on earth. All that happened befoee verse 2 and before God introduced man as we know it
AMEN 🙏.
Hi Ken. I was curious about the theory that Genesis 1:1 can be interpreted from the Hebrew as a dependent clause, as in "When God was creating the Heavens and Earth" and then the theory in Genesis 1:2 that the Hebrew word WAS as in "the earth WAS without form" is actually a Hebrew word that means to become, or became? I totally believe in the Supernatural, which is kind of why I'm open to the gap theory. I'm not married to it, or against it, just open to it.
We hear God calling through that “gap” don’t we😊? It’s amazing the perspective that can be understood when we place the scriptures about Satan’s dominion into the gap. Particularly when we see mankind given dominion in the six day creation and Satan trying to usurp that dominion through men. He is trying to get it back. And then Yeshua assuring our salvation through becoming a man. I admire God, what a plan!
Ken Ham is a hilarious comedian, he even says that he has the birth certificate of the universe, gees he is the best😅.
"This video DESTROYS the gap theory"...
The only thing this video destroys is Ken Ham's credibility as an intelligent human being.
The "myriad of atheism" he speaks of... you mean geologists who study, who carbon date, who investigate, who present and test theories until they are proven to be true with testing until results are achieved?
People like him should not be allowed anywhere near a position of importance that required anyone in sane society to hear him.
I missed the part where Ken Ham had any credibility except with the credulous.
Explain how your creation story has the trees and plants created before the sun and moon?
How do you account for a 6000 year old earth when you should know, as an Aussie, that aboriginal people have been there alot longer than that? How do you avoid such evidence?
Very good point! The aboriginal people have been a functioning and coherent group for tens of thousands of years. Are they lying Ken? Or are you just full of it?!!! (PS. We know the answer!)
How do you know the aboriginal people have been there a lot longer than that?
@@williamjpellas0314well, maybe there's actual archeological evidence to prove that they've been there for thousands of years?
Why is your thinking so bounded? God can create and he did create in the order that is recorded in the bible.And yes there was no sun,moon and stars before the 4th day,meaning God provided other source of light.Drum roll ...God is light him self,but if you read more in detail his word will find that God himself does not need light and can operate in any darkness perfectly fine...unlike the human. The reason God gave the lights in the sky was for seasons(moedim,that translates as appointed times) and seasons.We are supposed to meet with God on the appointed times that is Sabbath,and the festivals.
@@eliculross9771 what other sources of light was the trees getting? You can't be serious if you believe everything was created in 6 days,
Jesus Christ and Him Crucified is the Gospel. That’s what The Apostle Paul preached! We should as well. That’s why our nation is going to hell. Preachers are concerned about everything but the gospel. Satan doesn’t care what we argue and debate about, as long as he can keep our focus from the Gospel. Look unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our Faith!
Young Earth Creationism is not equivalent to the gospel.
No sin and death. No entropy.
Incorrect, wo entropy you can have no chemical or physical processes. No breathing, no digestion, no movement of any sort..
No atrophy🙌
It wasn't about no entropy, it was about that God evidently miraculously preserved anything that didn't need to exhibit entropy (prevented any injuries or disease, etc. and may have preserved manmade objects if we had stayed unfallen long enough to make any, like the sandals in the 40 years wandering), and removed that effect at the Fall (thus allowing for natural evils, etc.).
@@logicianbones That's a MUCH better way to state it. All 4 laws of classical thermodynamics were in effect in the garden (0,1,2 and 3); otherwise life is impossible. That God continually sustained and supernaturally fixed the errors, now we're in full agreement. Unfortunately, what was said was sloppy and to someone who has actually worked with the equations of thermodynamics, absurd.
Summary: Filling the gaps with magic.
I have never heard anyone who believes in six 24 hour days of creation address the fact that the sun, which is the basis of measuring days and years, was not created until “day” four.
And it wasn’t created on day it was there on day 1. Plants and vegetation released oxygen in the atmosphere and now on day 4 the sun moon and stars are now visible distinct objects, and are for animals and humans to use as time markers to use as days seasons and years.
The Hebrew word create(bara) is only used three times. Day 1 ALL physical matter. Day 5 soulish (nephesh) creatures,and day 6 Humans (spiritual beings).
@@Terrylb285 i do not think that is what it says
@@rhovey1059 the word create is not used , but the phrase (let there be). The frame of reference in genesis is from the viewpoint of an observer on the surface of the planet looking to the heavens. And the phrase ( God made ) two great lights is used in the Hebrew form past tense.
@@Terrylb285 the phrase , “God made” would always would always be past tense being that make is past tense of “to make.” If the phrase were intended to refer something previously made before it was referenced, then the pluperfect tense (God had made) would have been used.
The only answer is found between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. You young earth proponents still IGNORE the forest for the trees...you still can't answer where the darkness came from in Genesis 1:2. It's simple, if you just read the appropriate scriptural references. Isaiah 14:12-21; Isaiah 45:18; Jeremiah 4: 23-28; Ezekiel 28- 12-19. When you can explain how this fits into your young earth view, I would be delighted to sit down with you and discuss it...haven't heard a sensible answer yet. I'm not trying to be flippant, just honest.
Thank you. May the Lord bless you.
Sorry, this is a distorted view on the beginning.
Genesis is not a scientific story on how everything came into being. They did not have any idea of science at that time.
Genesis is how God started a relationship with us!
Whether it was 7 days or a million years is not of any interest at all.
God is almighty but he does not lie.
If the fossil records show a million years or more it is that way.
Do not fit the bible in your limited view on creation, please
Regards, Aldert
The sedimentary layers were laid down rapidly, concurrently, and worldwide: rapidly, because candidates for fossilisation need swift burial to preserve them for fossilisation - without it, they would rot, if dead, or move away if alive; concurrently, because water does not lay down only one substance over millions of years - for that, it would have to carry only one substance for millions of years, which is nonsense (the several substances self-sever according to their mass as the water slows down); and worldwide because we see this sort of huge serial deposition over areas as large as China and ultimately over the whole surface of the world - what caused it must have been something huge and worldwide as well as rapid. A worldwide flood? Sorry: no millions of years and instead empirical evidence for a great rapid worldwide, watery, wipe-out - Noah's Flood? Yes. So, Genesis is a literal history of man not so long ago. We spiritualise it away at our peril.
This video destroys Ken Ham
Hmm... He looks ok to me, he just put out another video and he looked about the same.😂🤣😅
I hear you, he reveals himself to be a man. Complete with misconceptions about the Word. He is so focused on his thesis that the gap is man trying to mix the Word of God with the world’s ideas that he is incapable of seeing the entirety of the Bible (which teaches the gap). Let us have grace for brother Ham but seek the truth from God. 🙏❤️
@@gi169Ken Ham claims in the title to “destroy” the gap theory. He does nothing of the kind. Hence the statement.
@@navion1946
Is that right... Hmmm...
How long did it take for the Red Sea to form ? Not 6000 years....Moronic understanding of geology...
Wow. Well said! The Gap theory is an example of humans desperately trying to use a human way of thinking to make the bible "work". 🤦🏻♀️ We don't need to fix the bible!! Some things we cannot completely comprehend or explain because we are not God. And that's okay! This is where faith comes in.
well, this is another level of stupid...
Thank You!!!!
Excellent explanation. I have friends who believe in the gap theory, though they’ve never heard of the gap theory per se. Thanks for pointing out Exodus 20:11. It emphasizes the point that Genesis 1:1 is part of the six days of Creation, rather than prior to them.
TRUTH WILL PREVAIL ☝️💖
Thank you Ken.
And so it does with the bible continually proven wrong and believers becoming more and more disassociated with reality.
@_Robot Considering that although truth can be suprressed, but cannot be destroyed, all one needs to do, and wait the truch to ptove unself, because it will. No need for aguments. Debates or chalenging one another.
@@mrtadreamer
Good luck with that.
How long you thinking of growing your beard?
Remember the atheist formula: insult God insult Christians insult Christianity = they win the argument. Makes zero sense. Moist Robot is a regular atheist.
It does prevail but you won't find it here.
The gap theory is nonsense indeed however man was also not created immortal as God had to say lest he eat of the tree of life and live forever so the death in the garden was a sin death, not a physical one as God said the day you eat or even touch of it you will surely die. The power of sin is death and the power of death is the law and the jots n tittles of the law passed away when Christ returned on the clouds of judgment in the glory of the father in 70 AD with the abomination that makes desolate (the Roman army) when you see the abomination or when you see standing armies surround the city flee to the mountains and the Christians did as the old covenant temple was destroyed and we now live under the messiah's new law as prophesied. The resurrection is not physical as you are sewn an earthly body and raised a heavenly one. All of Revelation is fulfilled in 70 AD, even the resurrection which happens every time a believer in Christ dies and the hyperbolic 1000 year millennium reign of Christ is from Pentacost to 70 AD. All things are fulfilled and we are in the new heaven and earth. All things are made new in Christ Jesus. God bless you all.
God bless you Ken for your years of defending Christianity and the Bible and putting the truth out there for all to have access too it. 🙏
Dear Sir,
In your speaking about what you call the gap theory you state "...and there's some major, major problems with that."
1. "First of all, you're trying to fit millions of years into the Bible" A person trying to fit millions of years into the Bible is not evidence that there are not millions of years in the Bible. You are confusing position with evidence, which is a fallacy.
2. "Secondly, why would you have a flood the Bible doesn't talk about, explaining the fossils, instead of the one it does talk about, and that is the flood of Noah's day" The creation account in Genesis BEGINS with a flood in Genesis 1:2-8 (!) That is a fact of scripture. Two floods are clearly evident in Genesis. What one might make of the first flood is up for debate, but don't act as if there is only Noah's flood presented!
3. "...because if the millions of years came from slow deposition of a millions of years upon the fossil record, you can't take that and explain it away with a catastrophe and say that's how we fit the millions of years in..." Again, a fallacy, because the gap flood (itself) doesn't explain the millions of years of fossils, it simply explains the END of the millions of years. The "gap" between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 may or may not have millions of years of a flooded condition, but that's not the crucial point. The point of the gap is that there were millions of years BEFORE said flood that is encountered beginning in Gen. 1:2 .
4. Genesis 1:2 is a comment on 1:1? One would have to know that such was the author's intent. Verse two can just as easily be said to be the next event in the narrative after verse one, but again, none of us know the author's intent, and Hebrew word usage and grammar don't help here one way or the other. We can only strive to accurately interpret what is said by an author. So one cannot scripturally confirm a young or old earth by trying to spin verse two, it's just not conclusive.
5. "If you believe in the gap theory you've also got death before sin, the bible makes it very clear that by one man sin entered the world and death by sin and that man was Adam." Sin didn't start with Adam, it started with Lucifer. Sure, human sin started with Adam, but sin began with Lucifer and the other rebellious angels. Yes angels primarilly live in the third heaven but from the Bible it is clear that they act within the natural universe as well.
6. Exodus 20:11, how does that verse give any more insight or understanding into the creation account than Genesis chapters one and two? Just because the verse has the word heavens in it? Heavens in the sense of the universe or in the sense of the atmospheric sky, it's not clear one way or the other here. (and yes, we can refer to the sky as "skies" since one person cannot see the entire sky at once, China has a sky, England has a sky, etc.) Also, the verb "asah" is not the same as "barah". As far as "heavens", both Ex. 20:11 and Gen. 1:1 use "shamayim" which is used interchangeably all through the old testament as either the abode of the stars or as the abode of birds and clouds, so which "heaven" that Gen. or Ex. each or together refer to is simply not clear, and not clear is not good enough to make a case for anything. An old-earth proponent can just as easily say that Ex. 20:11 refers to six days of restoration just as easily as a young earth proponent can say it refers to six days of original creation. (although Gen. 1:1 and 1:2 not part of the first day of creation).
Summary: If the earth is young, then so be it. If the earth is old, then so be it, but an examination of the arguments you present in this video reveals them to not be conclusive, and at times, bearing fallacy.
This whole video is a joke. Not unlike most of Ham's pseudo science.
Add to the point that the prophets give a clear account of Lucifer being cast down with his angels. Now, Ken ignores this and now we jump to Eden in Genesis. How is it Lucifer is now Satan? Satan was already in the Earth. Bigger question is if Ken believes Lucifer was cast down during Noah's flood? Okay. Then, how was Satan in Eden long before Noah and at what point during our creation did Lucifer fall?
The point of this video was for him to provide own gnostic response and cancel the latter. Also ignoring YEC is also...theory and rests heavily on doctrines of Ussher. Ussher is a name you won't find in the Sacred text. Only in certain Bibles with...man-made chronology. You can't have a proper educated debate with people like this.
Thank you. I was once indoctrinated into believing there were millions of years crammed between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.
Everyone has been indoctrinated into believing the Earth is a ball that moves and spins. It is not what the scriptures teach.
For reference in your future discussions, when reading Genesis chapter 1 read the 1st 5 verses all together and the 5th verse ties the 1st 4 verses together.
The real nail in the coffin for that is the verses in Exodus 20:8-11. The oldest man only lived to be 969 years old. That eliminates the possibility other scripture some folks often reference a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day to God. If that is read in context these reference the level of patience God has for His creation of human beings and some in their defiance of Him.
@oldtimerlee8820
Now you are manipulated by this individual...
I was shocked to find out that my father believed in the Gap Theory, when I was 50 I found out!
@@ancataut7891 The word 'manipulation' doesn't mean what you think it does. Grab a dictionary and learn the words before trying to use them.
do people actually believe this nonsense
I believe you're nonsense.
Unfortunately many people are spoon fed religious nonsense
Thank you for speaking the Truth...( also for the wonderful Creation Museum 😊) God bless you!...
Do you know the meaning of the word truth?! What about manipulation and its components?
Jesus said in the beginning God created them male and female
No room for gap
Yes, but the fact is that is not what happened.
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
Voltaire
“Atheism began when the first non-believer became an edgelord”
Me
@@Deinz1024
It would have been better for you to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubts.
i wounder how Mr. Ham responds to galaxies formation . are all things in the universe only 6000 light years away ??
He teaches that light was created in transit , and and the physics of the universe changed after the fall , and the flood . He only uses science when it supports his position, but when it doesn’t it’s man’s fallible ideas.
The gap theory is based on Genesis 1:1-3. Nothing to do with atheists.
was at First Bpt Ch "conference" on the corner of Broadway and Central, albuquerque...when you were here as a young whippersnapper with CRI.... also, my grandson was a rmmate at pbc, FL with a beloved of urs....continue to be well and mighty in the Word and Even so, come Lord Jesus.
Love it 🙏🏽 Thank you Ken
5:15 _Third_ Commandment.
I = vv 2-6.
II = v 7
III = vv 8-11
IV = 12
V = 13
VI = 14
VII = 15
VIII = 16
IX + X = 17 (or more precisely Dt 5:21)
But yes, Fulcran Vigouroux and Cardinal Wiseman could have used a concordance a bit more often, they kind of missed Exodus 20 and Mark 10.
You make perfect sense Ken. We need to believe the Bible.
Ken Ham convinced me bible believers are deluded.
Millions of Christians do believe the Bible without ignoring scientific realities.
Go buy another Nasa shirt though
Why should I *believe* the Bible when I can have a world view that is based entirely on falsifiable evidence?
Gap theorists believe the bible and they are Christians too.
Mr Ham you came to my church many years ago in Athens Georgia Athens Georgia. I have followed your teachings probably 40 years. I have also followed a Bible teacher Les Feldick (Through the Bible). He was the finest Bible teacher I have ever known. He did have a theory about the gap theory. He was very adamant that it was possible. He also taught creationism and you might think about that. By the way my church is Prince avenue Baptist church in Athens Georgia. I know how busy you are but please follow up. We can ask Jesus when we meet in heaven. You are a blessing to so many.
Thank You Ken.
You know, the size of the particles that compose these Sedimentary Rocks are a clear, definitive indicator of the environment they were laid down in. Tiny fine particles, like the ones that form shales, are laid down slowly in still waters with virtually no current, sandstones in waters with moderate current, conglomerate rock with pebbles are the other end of the spectrum, with the larger stones laid down in faster current, pebble size a direct indicator of how rapid the current is. Stop trying to discount rock deposits just because you don't understand Gods geological language.
Ken, I found a podcast of yours recently and since have inundated my days with listening to your podcasts. I am soooo grateful to you for weeding out false doctrine brought about by scientists over the ages. It all makes sense now. God’s calling on you to correct “the science indoctrination” is amazing. A while back, God called me to put together and publicize “Operation yaats (counselor).” I am a retired LMFT of 25 years (retired in 2019 because the American Psychological Association forced therapists to affirm LGBTQ and social justice. I chose NOT to renew my license because God’s counsel comes first in my life not “man’s crafty counsel.” God took me back to the Hebrew of the scriptures, especially Genesis. He wants a teaching specifically about His nature as Counselor through the eyes of Hebrew scriptures in Genesis and accounts of Jesus pointing out logic-only reasoning resulting in faulty conclusions (dialogizomai) v. Full-orbed reasoning using both sides of the brain, including temporal lobes where insight/revelation is activated to result in correct God-authored conclusions (dianoia). God is certainly on the move to rebuilt His ekklesia. God bless you, Sir.
Top man !
Accusations of indoctrination by someone who believes that the earth was created in 6 days, 6,000 years ago, and that serpents talk. That's cute.
@@Flintlock1776 ask God to show you the truth yourself and see what happens!
@@Flintlock1776 Accusations of indoctrination by someone who believes that the earth's life evolved while the moon got chaotically captured close resulting in massive deadly tides and only gradually moved out to its current location, and thinks he is a talking ape, and believes in talking parrots he imitates. That's cute.
@@aprilmcgeown2253 It's going to take more than an incantation and a Bronze Age deity to convince me that something demonstrably false is actually true because a 2000 year old myth and a youtube preacher says it is.
It's not trying to FIT anything into the Bible...it is IN the Bible period. The Bible must be studied as a whole. You can't pick and choose your own little pet doctrine on something, without including all the OTHER passages in the Bible that apply to that particular subject. Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2; Deuteronomy 32:4; Job 38:4-13; Psalm 104:4-9; Psalm 104:29-30; Proverbs 8:22-29; Isaiah 14:12-21; Isaiah 45: 18; Isaiah 50:3; Ezekiel 28:12-19; II Peter 3:4-7; and 1 John 1:5, all pertain to this subject as ascribed to by many Bible scholars. I don't understand how you have missed these crucial texts that verify the Pre-Adamic world view as an authenticated presentation, not a so called gap theory. A theory is predicated upon the ignorance of the subject under discussion, and I fail to see any ignorance suggested in this view...all you have to do is read it.
How grateful I am to be able to benefit from the work of today's Bible- believing men and women of science.. and to have good resources and organizations to recommend for others
This isn't science. This is people twisting facts to promote their agenda.
You have got to be kidding.
@@Flintlock1776 Exemplifying what a trite response is.
It's a shame that this theory even influenced C.I. Scofield in his Scofield Reference Bible from the early 1900s.
Thank you Dr. Ham for the clarification, it was very much needed; I had the Gap theory misinterpreted. :)
Love this man & others like him i thank God for them God is great, God is good.
Where did he get his doctorate from, a joke shop, it's certainly not from any universally acreditted educational establishment.
@@derekardito2032 Ken Ham obviously cut his doctorate from a cereal box
This video doesn't destroy the theory. It's an appeal to authority rather than concrete proof that the theory isn't possible. Time, being a god-of-the-gaps, fits nicely in some things where science can't explain (fossils are formed over eons; These ruins were buried under millennia of sediment; Life formed from non-life over billions of years; etc). It is still entirely dependent on our observation of small-scale events. No one has ever seen an island sink over hundreds of years or a fossil formed over millions or even non-life becoming life in any amount of time. The oldest writings we have are less than 6000 years old and the oldest copy of the Torah is around 3200 years old. I find it hard to believe that humans had to develop over 300,000 years before developing writing systems.
1 day is a thousand years
OK - Two things going on here... 1) 6 days would only be 6 thousand years, not millions. But more importantly - 2) This verse (2 Peter 3:8) is showing us that God is outside of time and space. It's not a reference to our own concept of time, but rather God's presence beyond our reality. God know the beginning from the end. Our short life span on Earth is but a fleeting moment in God's existence. In fact, it is impossible for humans to comprehend "infinity". God IS infinite. There are no bounds and no limits.
It's amazing to research the history of the universe from ancient times to modern technology. Aristotle believed that our "universe" was contained inside a glass bubble called the Celestial Sphere. At one point, people believed that the sun and the moon were the same size and actually within our reach (the story of Icarus). Next, Galileo discovers that the "universe" was much bigger than we previously thought by using his primitive telescope in the 1600's. It wasn't until the early1900's that we discovered that the universe extended WAY past our own Milky-Way galaxy. With the Hubble Deep-Field image taken in 1995 once again showed how ridiculously vast the universe actually was. Now, with James Webb, we see even further into the deep recesses of the universe... with no end in sight! My take-away is this - Just when we think we've reached the limits of our understanding and perception, God shows up even further out than we could have possibly imagined. The universe HAS to be boundless - otherwise it puts limits on God. Which there are none.
“a day IS LIKE 1,000 years” not is a thousand years. The Hebrew word yom plus a # (i.e. the first day or day 1) always means a literal 24 hour day. “And the evening and the morning was the first day”.
Lots of error here, primarily because he’s not using the KJ Bible… picking different hebrews text a man can come up with anything…
He goes from one version to another and then another… all these versions have and use DIFFERENT HEBREW TEXT. ..and recently another we are told?
The KJ Bible clearly teaches 2 floods clearly…it can’t be denied but by stating the KJ Bible is wrong, and that’s real bad.
I showed this to a professor years ago from the creation museum… he got so angry he left off the conversation because he could not refute the KJ Bible… still can’t.
Btw… the KJ Bible teaches NO ONE KNOWS THE BEGINNING… NO ONE, this is what the Bible teaches. Read out job and Ecclesiastes … man kind , yes 6000 +/- years… the earth as God states in Duet is a secret thing.
The greatest preachers in the world from years past all believed in 2 floods, Spurgeon, moody, Torrey, etc…
And why is a Christian business open on the Lords day? We are commanded not to forsake church services but yet the business this man runs keep people out of church on Sunday. I’ve been told by high employee that they are doing the Lords work… God does His work through His local NT Church, not a secular business making merchandise of Gods works.
This is an easy argument and there’s not a bunch of verses he can prove wrong from the KJ Bible….
Years ago a professor from this business was witnessed at his home in Ky by door knocking, he stated he just moved in and was a Lutheran… we asked him if he was sure when he died he’d go to Heaven, he didn’t like that at all and got defensive…we asked him why he was working at a Christian business creation museum, not knowing for sure he was saved, he didn’t like that either and said his common belief was in creationism..
If you believe the Earth is one day old 100 days, old, 1000 years old or 2 million years old, it will not have absolutely nothing at all in anyway to do with you going to heaven. The gospel of Jesus Christ does not include a belief in how old the earth is , the only reason this stuff is peddled so much,…that is a young earth, and refuting a old earth is because the old earth theory collides with the creation museum, and the ark encounter which generate millions of dollars a year.
What must I do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shout be saved, his death his burial, and his resurrection is the only hope a man or a woman has in regards to the remission of sin, and the promise of eternal life. Faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ and repentance towards God.
He said it so I had to say it!
Sorry Ken, you'll never convince me that dinosaurs shared the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve and then were destroyed in the Flood.
Brilliant and devastatingly impactful content. Thank you.
There wasn't millions of years between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, but I do believe there was a thousand years. 2 Peter 3:8 says that a thousand years is as a day to the Lord.
It doesn't explicitly say Adam was made on day 6, it says that man and woman was made on day 6 and he told them to be fruitful and multiply, on the 7th day he rested, and THEN he made Adam & Eve separately in the Garden of Eden. Assuming this interpretation is correct, it would make sense because God is allowing man time to spread about the earth for a thousand years in our time while he rests from creating the entire universe. He saw that everything was good, so there was no need to worry about us until the angels rebelled, fell to earth and deceived mankind.
This also explains where Cain found his wife without necessarily assuming incest. I understand the whole "we had perfect DNA therefore genetic diseases didn't exist" argument, but still.
I believe the whole purpose of the genealogies is to give clear indication of where Jesus, the Messiah came from, and that's why we seem to evidence of ancient civilizations that existed for long periods of time in the antediluvian era. Adam & Eve sinned against God, but he still managed to keep their lineage genetically pure and uncorrupted by the fallen angels & the Nephilim.
We could, and should expand upon the 7 day week and also read up on the Jubilees and Sabbath years which also follow cycles of 7. So taking that into account, creation could also be following a cycle of 7, but 7,000 years instead of 7 days from our perspective.
Creation starts before there was light, therefore nothing existed to measure time, so we must be talking about Gods time, correct?
So from this interpretation the earth isn't millions of years old, nor is it 6,000, it's likely closer to 13,000 years old, which I personally think makes a lot more sense both Biblically and Scientifically than either narrative of 6,000 vs. millions of years.
Ken Ham you are biased in your view of the gap. Your issues with it are easily explainable but you have to take the Word literally. Hayah: became or was. Plus there is no day in the six day creation where earth is created. It is simply caused to appear. Plus you just accused the creator of creating tohu wa bohu and He doesn’t do that. Check Isaiah 45:18 He did not create it tohu or “in vain”. God bless you brother and may we all continue to learn more of Him.❤️🙏
Ken Ham you are biased in your view of the gap. Your issues with it are easily explainable but you have to take the Word literally. Hayah: became or was. Plus there is no day in the six day creation where earth is created. It is simply caused to appear. Plus you just accused the creator of creating tohu wa bohu and He doesn’t do that. Check Isaiah 45:18 He did not create it tohu or “in vain”. God bless you brother and may we all continue to learn more of Him.❤️🙏
The day is determined by rotation of the earth, year the orbit around the sun, the moon roughly based on orbit of the moon. But there's no basis for a 7 day week. It would make more sense for a 5 day week as it goes into 365 days evenly. There is only one reason for a 7 day week and it's given in Exodus 20:11
"And the Earth" could also mean that the earth at this point, before the creation of man had endured this even that caused it not be "Good" but without form. This could also explain this creature, the serpent who deceived Eve. Where did this creature come from? Ez. 28:13 would suggest that this creature, the zenith of creation, was in the Garden of Eden, before pride brought it down. Therefore, the Biblical narrative would point to the possible of this "interval" between verse 1 and 3. The goal is not to build in millions of years, nor the need for death to intervene, but for a logical sequence for the first 3 chapters of Genesis.
Your hermeneutics is faulty.
Why Did God Create in Seven Days?
Article by Dr. Nicholas Schaser
Why Create the World in Seven Days?
According to the first chapter of Genesis, the initial creative process spans seven days: six for God’s acts of creation, and a final day on which the Lord rests from all that work. This seven-day period is more significant than most modern Bible readers may realize. While contemporary debates tend to focus on when these days occurred or whether they constitute 24-hour periods, the ancient Israelites would have understood the timespan in a much different way; namely, as the traditional period in which temples were constructed. The outset of Genesis uses the seven days to suggest that God’s creation of the world is a temple-building project; whereas other gods erect their temples in seven days, the God of Israel fashions the entire world as a divine temple.
The Ancient Meaning of Seven
In ancient literature of Israel’s neighbors, narratives exist that present temple construction projects that last seven days. For example, the so-called Baal Cycle (an ancient text found in the ancient city of Ugarit in northern Syria) describes the temple of Baal being established in a week’s time: “Of cedars [Baal’s] house is to be built, of bricks is his palace to be erected…. Behold, a day and a second, the fire eats into the house, the flame into the palace. A fifth, and sixth day, the fire eats into the house, the flame into the palace. Behold, on the seventh day, the fire departs from the house, the flame from the palace…. Baal rejoices, ‘My house I have built of silver; my palace I have made of gold.’” (KTU 1.4 VII). In this case, the chief Canaanite deity seven days to set up his temple. Yet, the biblical God rests “on the seventh day” (ביום השביעי; bayom hashvi’i) from all the work of creation. This number is no accident; in the literature of the Ancient Near East-including Israel’s Scriptures-seven is the number that symbolizes completeness or perfection.
The World as God’s Temple
When the God of Israel fashions the world, the priestly writer of Genesis 1 frames that creation within a seven-day framework to suggest that everything we see around us is part of the Lord’s temple. An ancient polemic is imbedded into this imagery: whereas gods like Baal take seven days to create a single temple in a single city of Mesopotamia, Israel’s God takes the same amount of time to establish the entire earth. While other gods may have dominion over their limited sacred spaces, the God of Israel holds sway over the entire created order. It is in the context of this theological claim that Isaiah has a divine vision in the temple as seraphim sing of God, “Holy, holy, holy, the whole earth (כל־הארץ; kol ha’arets) is full of his glory” (Isa 6:3). In Genesis, the precise temporal parameters of the seven days are not the main point; instead, Scripture is concerned with the Lord’s superiority over other deities and the view of our world as the sacred abode of God.
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There are 109 Hebrew waw consecutives ("and" coordinating conjunction) which make 1 longer running sentences, a polysydenton like a string of pearls of one whole necklace. Genesis 1:1 to Genesis 2:4 is one creation event covering only 7 Days. It's one complete whole story of Creation by God of the heaven and the earth in 6 literal days and God resting and admiring His creative work of the 7th Day.
Good day brother, have you ever heard The late Chuck Missler on the subject " The gap theory between Genesis 1:1 &2?
He was a bible scholar and didnt derive his understanding from a man. Ive heard him on the subject and he opens up The Hebrew to explain his teaching.
We worship the God of the impossible!❤
Problem is in the age of Earth. Genesis was written in Hebrew (small vocabulary), not English. The word "day" in Hebrew is "yom". This can be 24 hours, but in Genesis it is a long time span, as Hebrew has no word for epoch. We use "day" the same today. "In my grandfather's day, cars did not go fast". My grandfather did not live for 24 hours. The Earth is 4.543 billion years old, this is in the timeline of Genesis when using the correct understanding of Hebrew and yom. Hebrews 4:1-11, states day 7 is a long time span. Habakkuk 3:6 the mountains are ancient! Many Christians are scientists and do not like Ken questioning our faith or work, shame on you, stop. Science tells us of God's amazing creation, Romans 1:19. Science and Faith are not enemies.
Ken, I'm surprised how little you realize what you are reading in the Bible. You state, "Why do you talk about a flood the Bible doesn't talk about...?" The Bible starts with a flooding Gen 1:2. Gap theory does not put a time between Gen 1:1 & Gen 1:2. The Bible does not indicate a time. However, the prophets talk about Satan in the Garden of Eden adorned like the High Priest. They also talk about cities ruined due to his fierce anger. Isaiah 45:18 says God did not create the earth to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited. So, the only way these verses make sense is if there is a gap between Gen 1:1 & 1:2 where Satan's judgment was on earth where once fruitful cities are ruined and Sata, later in Genesis is seen in his judged state. The Gap Theory makes sense of Isaiah 14:12-14, & Jer 4:23-26.
It works if we realize that god had different values for time and numbers😂 than we do now. Each biblical day was approximately equal to 1,826-2,740 years in today's time. The Bible, being the word of the Lord, is perfect and therefore never wrong. We just have to find how to how to make it work to be true.
Problem solved.😂
Ex. 20 will not help you since there it is giving commands for people. God did create the present age in 6 days but before the first day the non-elect angels fell. God doesn't create topsey turvey or the resulting darkness. Yes, these angels had billion of years to cause chaos. It sounds like you are knowing and judging motives of folks trying to reconcile what we see in creation with the biblical text.
I told my BIL that if he didn't nees to believe in the truth of 7 days, why would he believe in anything. God can do anything.
Thank you Ken. Interesting topic. I immediately thought that the genes of Adam and Eve were much purer as new creations of God, hence brother & sister marrying & reproducing would be fine as well.
Not one of these "problems" are Insurmountable. Not one. You're just not very creative. Stuck in a box.
Not to mention the logical fallacies. With the whole "theyve defeated the purpose by having an instant Satans flood" you've created a strawman. I don't even support the pre-adamic rebellion and recreation theory and I yet can see you've done a poor job rebutting it.
Their claim would be that once the world was destroyed, it would have laid a formless and desolate void for millions of years before God started recreating it again. So youve raised a point which just shows you fundamentally don't understand the point of view you're trying to "DESTROY". Try again.
Hebrews 4
New International Version
A Sabbath-Rest for the People of God
4 Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. 2 For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed.[a] 3 Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,
“So I declared on oath in my anger,
‘They shall never enter my rest.’”[b]
And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world. 4 For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.”[c] 5 And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”
6 Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, 7 God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:
“Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts.”[d]
8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. 9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works,[e] just as God did from his.
New Testament writers treat creation days as symbolic - and they warn us to avoid speculations about myths and genealogies, because these are unprofitable.
Keep posting, I get roasted all the time for believing the bible
Ask God revelation and don't try explaining after your hunan mind ..!!!
You have a gap in your theory Ken. Stop hamming it up. Death and sin have nothing to do with animal death. That would mean 5:22 men procreated with animals. Which can’t happen and goes against your teaching. To associate animals and crossbreeding to get sin is not sound Bible doctrine or teaching. You just made your outlook look not logical as well. To also proclaim that the gap theory has to include millions of years based on one persons perception is also ignorant. You left out some very inconvenient Hebrew to your teaching. In verse 2 we see the earth “was” Hebrew (hayaw) word “became” without form and void. We are told that God created nothing in vain or void of purpose. Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in VAIN, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
So this would most definitely suggest that something made it become in vain. But not because God made it that way. You’re working off of evolutionary theory by suggesting that God didn’t create things perfect when it came to the earth. But then when he got to the rest of creation it was good and perfect. You might do some more looking into the rest of the Bible and get your nose out of genesis or one book only. God loves a just balance.
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
2 Corinthians Chapter 11
13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
2 Timothy Chapter 4
3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Of course with that being said about them who have been deceived into believing this lie shows why the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him. Them being deceived into believing this earth is that many years old most likely is a fulfilling of the prophecy Paul told us here in 2 Timothy 4:3-4 about them not enduring sound doctrine but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers having itching ears and they shall turn away their ears from the truth and shall be turned unto fables. Its like the words of the character created by Charles Schultz Charlie Brown from Peanuts good grief. If one listens to the conviction the Holy Spirit brings to pass and gets spiritual discernment after God pours Him the Spirit out on the believer that has been washed in Jesus Christ's atoning blood and become born again of Him and they grow up in God's Grace they will most likely come to believe what I now believe this theory of evolution to be possibly one of those fables that Paul wrote and talked of in verse 4 of 2 Timothy chapter 4.
God created everything including time and space, therefore HE exists outside of it, unaffected by it, eternal, uncreated, the alpha and the omega.
it can’t be millions of years because if the deposition was so slow, the fossil would’ve decomposed before they were able to be covered upin layers
In the beginning God created the heaveN and the earth “ It was not heaven that was in darkness but ONLY the earth . Gen 1:2 . All that follows from Gen 1:2 is about the earth . There is a full stop . At the end of Gen 1:1. ALL but two ‘ modern’ translations have it as “ heavens” in gen1:1 . This is wrong . In Gen 2:1 all have it as heavenS but they are the heaves of ‘earth’ . Two in fact . The sky and space . This you have three heavens that Paul speaks of . But the heaveN of Gen 1:1 needs no sun or moon for God is the light thereof . No one knows how long it was before gen 1:1 and 2 . . Gen1:2 is in fact the recreation of the earth . For one thing there was despite the darkness and chaos there was already water ( the “deep”) there . God is a God of order not chaos . As those versions are in error at the beginning so too are they at the end despute their boast in “ better understanding” fir in rev 3 speaking of the Laodocian church that I they overcome they will sit “IN” my throne even as I overcome and sit “IN” my Father’s throne “ all other versions have it as “ on “ my throne etc. The ONLY one who can sit ON the throne is The Son and the Father respectively . One error at the beginning leads to a greater one at the end .
I can believe in a form of a Gap theory, not the one presented though.
I believe that Angels were created before man, and that means a form of heavens for them to live in.
It's hard to say if they live in another galaxy or another dimension or both.
I could even believe the earth might of been just some rock before God created anything on it during his six days of creation.
Why, because at some point Satan and his Angels had to be cast to the earth.
But life created on this planet had to happen during the six days of creation.
Like you said there can be no death before sin.
So yea Dinosaurs just as old as the other animals on this planet, around 6000 years at most.
If we believe Angels were created at the same time as man that creates a whole new list of problems.
You would have Adam and Eve here for quite a long time in order to give time for the rebellion in heaven.
But if the rebellion in heaven was over and Satan already cast to this world before creation that to me makes more sense since Adam and Eve would not of lived long before they were deceived.
Also, the sun, moon and stars were created on day 4, so whatever some people say happened in "the gap" happened in a cold dark universe; and by cold i mean cryogenic cold
Your points are taken.
However, I can't find anywhere in the Bible, where God creates something that is formless, without and void and desolate.
Whenever he creates anything, its always complete and very good.
Also the Genesis 1:1 line is a statement. that God created the heavens and the earth. You have to acknowledge then that the Earth and the Heavens or Universe were already created.
Before you get to 1:2. So it doesn't make sense if he has to rebuild everything.
Also, you have issues with consistency. Why would the Sons of God Shout for Joy over something that is void, formless and desolate?
The only way that makes sense, is if the Earth was indeed created along with the heavens good and perfect, then it became Void and Desolate and had to be rebuilt again.
The big hint here is the water. Water in this picture of genesis suggests judgement of some sort. That would be consistent as the Earth became exactly the same as the picture we see there as it did in Noahs Flood, also the result of judgement.
We also are given hints of a time, before man...at this same place in Jeremiah.
The prophet Jermiah was literally allowed to see the whole earth as it was after Judgement I believe, in the same condition, quite probably the same event. This would make sense as because it specifically states that the judgement did not completely destroy the earth.
This is all very consistent and you can arrive at these conclusions without the help of mans influence of trying to wedge millions of years into the bible anywhere.
From where cannibals come from, even some humans almost animals in some Islands.
After the Noah human beings were quite fine. Nothing like without cover body and without any form of complete human beings.