Can We Prove Christianity Is True WITHOUT the Bible? | Ken Ham
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- Can we prove Christianity is true WITHOUT using the Bible? In this presentation, Ken Ham discusses how we can use observational science to confirm the Bible and emphasizes the importance of using God’s Word as the foundation of our worldview.
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To what end? "Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God."
When a person FINALLY RIDS THEMSELF OF SELF..PRIDE.. ME..ME...ME
FREEDOM IN JESUS CHRIST IS THE RESULT 😊
Never any regrets!!
Hallelujah 🙌
Texas Nana
Psalm 91
Amen. God resists the proud, but He gives grace to the humble. God bless you Nana from Texas 😊
Matthew 18:3 GW
[3] Then he said to them, “I can guarantee this truth: Unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Provide evidence not personal opinion based on ignorance.
@@ossiedunstan4419 this whole channel is full of evidence, and scientific ones, but choosing to ignore it and not looking at it doesn't disprove it... If I refuse to look at the sky and say it's green, and people show me pictures of it but I refuse to look, that means the sky is really green? or if I find others same as me and we all refuse to look at the evidence...
but it's even near impossible to talk with someone with a hardened hard against God, since I know I was the same until I got seriously humbled and finally repented, but some never have such a blessing, so please, I urge you until it might not be too late, look at the evidence and see it's all real
Self delusion, imaginary!!
I stand on the authority of the word of God!
Amen.
Sola Scriptura.
See, the problem is...."the word of god". How do you know the bible is the word of god? Give one piece of evidence that it is in fact the word of god.
@@hongotedesco8931
Where is God’s word since you believe the Holy Bible is not God’s word? I believe God’s word is in the Holy Bible and it similars to the old manuscript written in scrolls.
@@vernoncleveland6806 God's word is....nowhere to be found. We don't even know if there's a god. Now, if there is a god, he could easily make his word known to us. Eg, he could have a "fireside chat" once a week and give us the lowdown on things. But he's strangely silent...why is that?
@@hongotedesco8931
Whether we believe or not, God still exist and His word speaks true, He never lies. So many prophecies have happen and is happening right now towards what the Word of God says.
It’s really interesting just 5 mins in.
He doesn’t say “here is why the Bible is a reasonable starting point” he says “if you give up the Bible as a starting point, you’ve lost the debate”
It really makes you think.
He could have said how in Genesis it reads "In the beginning God..."
If you don't at least consider a different starting point, there _is_ no debate. Assuming the conclusion you want as your starting premise is circular and rigid and gets you nowhere
@@joshuakohlmann9731 Not really. Your starting point is what you base your argument on. If you change that, you aren't making the same argument. Can your starting point be wrong? Obviously. But that doesn't mean that you need to assume the opposing starting point because it somehow makes you more "open-minded" or "rational". That's folly, and you can't expect to make a robust argument if you're changing your terms during the debate.
Unless I misread what you commented. If by "consider", you're meaning to acknowledge different starting points, then sure. But I don't think that's the relevant issue. And you are right about circular reasoning. But Ken Ham isn't suggesting that in the beginning God created because he already believes it. He's saying that when arguing for the God of the Bible, taking the Bible as your source can't be abandoned to appease people who reject the Bible. You don't learn about the God of the Bible by reading the Quran or by studying fossils. You learn about God by reading the Bible, which is about God.
Wow...45 years into my Christianity and I'm dumbfounded. I really need to watch this repeatedly with a notebook and pen, like I did in Seminary school. ...Wow...
@@reddragonair3147 I can acknowledge different perspectives without ever being open to considering them. Atheists do this too.
To truly consider a different perspective is very hard. Painful even.
Incredible discussion. Praise Jesus. Thank you brother Ken
What warrior in their right mind puts down their sword before commencing battle? Yet, that’s literally what we’re doing if we lay aside our only weapon in the spiritual war we are fighting. Don’t drop your sword! Refuse to disarm yourself just because an opponent asks you to!
the one that thought that the war was over....
AMENN
So atheists are your enemies? What about those lost souls who you’re supposed to be shining Christs light on?
@@elilane8627 Yes, atheists are the Christian’s spiritual enemies because they are enemies of Christ, but so are muslims, buddhists, Hindus, Orthodox Jews and anyone else who opposes Christ. Yet, that DOES NOT mean that I hate them. On the contrary, Jesus said to love our enemies and do good to them (Matthew 5:44, Luke 6:27), so I love atheists BECAUSE they are my spiritual enemies! It’s a spiritual war, not a carnal one (Ephesians 6:12), and unlike in a physical war where the objective is to kill our enemies, the objective in spiritual warfare is that our enemies might be saved!
To continue with your analogy then, the Christian faith ONLY has a sword; but is otherwise naked. Whereas a naturalist has dozens to hundreds of additional points of data, repeatable, measurable experimentation. You can have your sword. I’ll take my sword, armor, shield, warhorse, lance, catapult, rifle, etc etc as nauseum.
Greetings dearly beloved in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth!
Christians, hold your ground! If God is for you, who can stand against you?
"If God is for you, who can stand against you?" Are those the words spoken by all the Christians who were burnt at the stake... by other Christians ?
@@user-ex4wx1rj7s also Jesus said not to be afraid of those, who destroy the body, but can never destroy your soul 🤗
@@user-ex4wx1rj7s even Satan is pretending to be the angel of the light, but we know the Truth of we follow Jesus. Do you know Him personally?
@@vifi3069So Protestants burnt at the stake by Catholics... That was Satan in disguise... Likewise when Catholics burnt Protestants. Or when the Catholics slaughtered the Cathars. Or when the Inquisition tortured and murdered heretics. Or when Christians forcefully converted the people of the Americas. All Satan pretending to be God. Even though the Old Testament is rife with exhortation to inflict death and suffering on all who disobey his laws (like collecting firewood on the sabbath or women accused of witchcraft).
@@user-ex4wx1rj7sYes actually...
Always such a JOY to listen to you Ken! l couldn't agree more. :)
Amen 🙏🏾 It was the Spirit of the Lord who drew me to himself in my darkest moment after those who planted, watered, and prayed 🙏🏾
To God Alone Be The Glory
From now on my starting point is the
B I B L E!
Why when the bible is wrong?
@@taylorthetunafish5737because the Bible isn't wrong!
Yes that’s the book for me! 🎵😉
@@ForthrightForChrist-ts4io The bible says there was light before there was a sun. Stars are the only natural source of light in the universe so that can't be right. There's not enough water on the planet for a global flood. I could go on and on and on. It does not comport with reality, bud. That's why it's wrong.
The evolutionary "science" is enmeshed with pagan philosophies that the adherents are rigidly attached it.
Brilliant Word!
I always start a conversation with philosophy and metaphysics and work my way to a religious belief. What is a belief? How do I have one? How can I be sure that I am right? The line in the sand questions the precede a religious question. I want to be sure that we both understand that certain paremeters exist and must be applied. Eventually their uncertainty becomes apparent.
If you have a belief, and think you are right, you KNOW you are wrong, and probably a jerk at a party.
EXCELLENT. One of your best videos my brother. Keep it up!
One of the best?... Oh dear.
Good message!
Thank you so much for reminding me what's truly important.
Thank you so much for your teaching. ❤
Thank God for these pastors
Thanks for being a voice for The Truth. It's such a blessing to us and our children.
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
Voltaire
@@AtamMardesVoltaire's favorite saying "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."
@@AtamMardes The greatest lie ever told is that God doesn't exist.
@@AtamMardeswhere is the hope that lies in you. I pray you find that soon before it's too late.
@@CelticSpiritsCoven If you are honest with yourself you can't deny the fact that man made Allah, the God of the Bible, Romulus, Zalmoxis, Osiris, Krishna, Zeus, Satan, Bible, Quran, heaven, hell, angles, Garden of Eden, Adam & Eve, sin, savior, sacrifice, resurrection, parting the Red Sea, walking on water, splitting the moon, salvation, Santa Clause, Tooth Fairy, Superman, Batman, Darth Vader, etc.
I love this! Thank you so much dear sir. 💖
Perfectly said, brother. I love this message.
❤AMEN!!!❤
This is awesome ❤
God bless you 🙏
Amen Praise God
Thank you
Love this!
Even secular scholars who are in the field of textual criticism allow most of the Epistles of the Apostle Paul in a debate. Which in his writings that they accept we have access to much of the rest of the Bible. So if someone tells you that you can't use the Bible in a debate it shows their ignorance of the topic. This should force them to admit at least some of the Bible in the debate. If not you can simply proclaim the Gospel and walk away in good faith. With your reason being they're not willing to accept evidence that has been clearly designated by their own piers for use in such debates. God's Word is strong enough that even when they limit your access to it, it will still come out on top.
Hope that helps, God Bless...
At 15:20 Ken starts his story about him talking to the athiest scientist. He even says that she says "I will change my theories if the evidence is provided" I'm pretty sure when ken asks her "are you prepared to change any of that?" she said "YES if the evidence is provided".
Amazing truth😊
Great!!!
Thankyou.
God bless you
THANK YOU👑 EXCELLENT TEACHING ☀️❤🇫🇮❤👑
If you tell God you are blind, Jesus will give you eyes to see HIM and the TRUTH. But the Prideful and religious that think they can figure God, His bible and Gospel out, He'll make deaf, dumb and blind. (I paraphrase) John 9:39 Jesus said, For Judgement I come to give sight to the blind, and to blind those who say we see!
God Bless You, Ken!
I remember being a child & it seemed as though suddenly, no one wanted to talk about God or the Bible. It seemed as though to talk about it with someone was as though that person was harassing that person. Which they were not.
It's time we all got back to saying God Bless You to the stranger. It's time to return to Church!
Ken Ham is incredibly biased & ignorant. We know that humans have written myths to explain reality & control. The Bible could very well be part of that reality with all its contradictions, false applications of prophecy, immoral teachings, etc.
Ken Ham should rather explain how the Bible is accurate with empirical Science or evidence regarding creation, gay marriage, etc.
If energy cannot be destroyed or created... who does it get transferred from?!?
interesting question, and when you get an answer, please share....eh...
Not who, what.
The only possible answer is that it must be transferred from something (or someone) that is not created.
This is the method that I use.
Many people call themselves Christian while refusing to study the Bible and refusing to accept it as truth. I used to be like that, and I wasn't Christian. I hadn't accepted salvation yet, because I didn't truly believe it, I didn't even understand what it meant.
I was a cherry picker and wanted to continue on my path, what felt comfortable, and chasing the religion of trusting people (in science, in entertainment even...) over God.
I am grateful everyday to the Grace of GOD! 💞🙏🎉For his new mercies.
I can't think of any advanced concept that isn't written about, but the difference is man's word or God's. This is why we can't explain Christianity without it. And many call themselves Christians but they chose to follow the word of man above the word of God. 😢 "There will be many calling out Lord,Lord..." Matthew 7:21-23
We are Saved by Grace. Ephesians 2:5 In Ephesians 2:8,9,10 says We are saved by grace THROUGH FAITH so faith is also a gift of God and not of works lest anyone should boast. bro. John from Poland
Amen!
"Seek FIRST the Kingdom of God and HIS righteousness...". Every false religion has NO idea what HIS righteousness is
You are absolutely convinced the Bible is true, but Muslims are absolutely convinced the Koran is true. Please provide objective and verifiable evidence that you are correct, and they are wrong. BTW, you can't use the Bible to prove the Bible.
It’s the righteousness that comes by faith in Christ, the imputed righteousness of God that comes by faith and not by works, and it’s the righteousness of God that we need to enter His Kingdom, which is why faIlen humans are unable to come to God by our own righteousness through works, because imperfect humans can’t achieve the perfect righteousness of God. We’re not going to be compared against the righteousness of other humans to enter God’s kingdom, but our works will be held against the righteousness of a Holy and sînless God, and we will all fall short, which is why we need to receive Christ and HIS righteousness by faith. There was an exchange at the cross for the born again believers in Christ, where our sìns were transferred to our Holy and righteous Creator and Savior, YHVH incarnate in Jesus Christ, and His righteousness was transferred to us by faith, Romans 4. The only way anyone is entering God’s kingdom is through Christ, because without His perfect righteousness imputed by faith, we faIlen humans have no righteousness God will accept. The purpose of the Law was not to make us righteous, but rather, it’s to show us our sìns, so we will understand that without receiving Christ as our righteousness through faith in His redemptive work at the cross, and His resurrection the 3rd day, we are hopelessly lost and separated from God. The Law was a schoolmaster to lead us to faith in Christ, and once faith has come, we have no further need for a schoolmaster, because the Holy Spirit indwells us, and He causes us to live for God, and to love righteousness, and to despise sìn. The Holy Spirit changes the desires of our heart, and He renews our mind, so that we are transformed from within, regenerated spiritually, and reconciled to our Heavenly Father through Christ.
I like the way Voddie Baucham explains a regenerated believer in Christ. He answers, “Can a Christian live any way they want to?”, with the reply, “Yes, because God is going to change a Christian’s “want to”.
@@Redeemed.of.YHVH.thru.Christ Exactly
@@Redeemed.of.YHVH.thru.Christ Yep...we all sin. Some of us are forgiven
Myth Vision is a great channel for understanding the history of the Bible.
Great interviews with Biblical scholars and researchers.
Information not found elsewhere.
"So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
Romans 10:17 NKJV
We Christians can learn a lot from Ken Ham on how to defend and discuss our faith/belief in the Bible, Jesus Christ/God etc.
The fact is... the more hard science/biology you know... the MORE IT POINTS TO A DIVINE, INTELLIGENT CREATOR... THE GOD OF THE BIBLE!!!
Thank you and God bless you Ken! HEALTH, JOY, PEACE, LOVE AND BLESSINGS!
Why do you need someone to teach you how to defend your faith? Why does belief in the "good book" need defending? Could it be when people ask questions about why God, in the Bible, orders you to kill witches, to put people to death for cursing their parents or lighting a fire on the sabbath day, to chop a woman's hand off for trying to protect her husband from an aggressor (and why does God add the words "show her no pity"?). Could it be when people ask questions about the slaughter of the first-born sons of Egypt (or why God "hardened Pharaoh's heart" when he was ready to capitulate)? Or about the 42 young boys ripped to pieces by two bears, for laughing at a man's bald head? Or about the treatment of the Midianite women and children taken prisonner?... It would take more than Ken Ham to justify a single one of those acts of sheer barbarism.
@@user-ex4wx1rj7sIf it was possible to look through a crystal ball and see that destruction was caused by someone or something would you allow it to run its course?
There are many instances where we see what happens in the Bible when God's people chose to use their own reasoning.
Your reasoning is that disrespect and small infringements should be forgiven.
And the punishment meted out did not fit the crime.
But what you comparing it with the kings and Judges of Antiquity or the Kings and Judges of today?
When were judges and Kings ever humane in Antiquity.
They ruled with power and murdered anyone that disrespected them.
Look into history and see how murder and war is described, was Alexander the great an Israelite or a pagan?
How many more pagans were murderers, greedy for power and the rule of the land?
But you are talking about the Creator who can see to eternity, and you do not have a crystal ball.
@@johndavid3474So you're basically that our subjective morality has changed for the better, whereas the morality of the bible hasn't. I thought it was eternal and perfect!
You've made the perfect case for ignoring the bible, unwittingly I would guess.
@@sids5002 God sees to the end of the age, you are only a speck of dust that arrives for a moment then disappears.
God blows the dust wherever he wants, where you land is exactly in the control of God.
You look at the world today and you compare the dust of yesterday, but God has brought you to the place you are today.
@@johndavid3474 I agree with your "speck of dust" analogy. Humans have only existed for 150000years of the 4 billion years of this planet. This planet only a fraction of the 14 billion years of this Universe in its current state. We can only inhabit small parts of this single plant. We are insignificant.
The rest is fictional until proven. Which god? When? How? Why?
Which religion? If he creates us, then punishes us, he (male of course) sounds truly awful. I'm glad he's fictional.
Christ will prove His existence at His return in a most powerfully convincing manner! “ You can’t reason someone out of a position they weren’t reasoned into.
~ Johnathan Swift ~
even in the tribulation, with all the evidence, and destruction....people will refuse to believe...
@@philipbuckley759That’s exactly what I was going to say.
Until then, many souls will be lost.
Amen 🙏
Ken ham, Pastor Justin Peters introduced you to me in a video, Justin is powerful man of God. I am so blessed to have found you both just in 2024. I have been a man of God since child hood and love the Lord God. Please keep up the good work and information 💯 percent behind you both Amen brothers in the Lord.
Amen Ken! We believers MUST use our mighty weapon against the Devil. That weapon is "Sword of the Spirit" which is the powerful true and trustworthy Word of God, the Holy Scriptures! Ephesians 6:17 b
In Genesis, God actually lied to Adam and Eve by claiming that the tree of knowledge was toxic enough to cause instant death, yet nothing happened. The mythical serpent was a paragon of virtue who told the humans that god was jealousy hoarding knowledge for power
Amen
Amen! What an excellent way to start my weekend. One of your best videos yet! Thank you for your labors!
This is one of the best?... Oh dear.
Brother Ken & all Brothers & Sister Brothers -) Sisters Just Get them To Take Note of the Perfect Design in every Living Thing
In order to return to the authority of God's Word in engaging a secular world, we must first return to God's Word authority within the Churches. We have become experts in creating our own "human tradition" and to our peril we've left God's Word aside. Most Christians today will argue from the point of view of this theologian or that one while they are virtually ignorant of the World of God. "My people perishes out of lack of knowledge of God's Word". Let's devour God's Word individually, as families and inside our Churches!
Yahuah's Word destroys the lies of the Big Bang, evolution, cavemen, dinosaurs, the Ice Age, Heliocentrism, "space" travel, extraterrestrials, Covid and Climate Change. Modern Israel is also not the fulfillment of prophecy. As we align with the Word we find ourselves more and more at odds with this world and more peaceful about it.
Amen!
Man's word is just opinion and like the grass that withers away. God's Word is Truth, Jesus Christ, and Eternal!
Yes, it's obvious.
That's how circular reasoning works, it appears self-confirming, but it's really just you saying it must be true because you believe it is.
Yes, definitely. The Holy Spirit still works miracles and this is sufficient to prove and confirm the reality of the God of the Bible.
I 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏✝ This educational system (The Bible) becomes THE educational system in U.S.A. Please Lord help Ken Ham to work with our lost governments (not just America) to establish Biblical world view as foundational in education AS IT SHOULD BE, in Jesus name Amen.
Leave it to Sunday school please.
@@RealHooksyThen get the religion of atheism out of the schools please.
Reddogfido5399 sounds just like the Taliban
@@Charlie94781 because it is
Saying that i cant start with the Bible. Is like saying you cant start with the origin of species
Bro Ken, do you courses I can sell as an affiliate? If so, where can I get access to it?
All I can think of is, “How am I supposed to prove to you that my dog is the best in show if I can’t show my dog?” (Just an example, ppl, I love God far more than I love my dog.)
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You could show the medals. Certificates. Documentation of genetics. Pictures. Pawprints. Maybe fur you have on your clothes from scratching them before you left the house. This is all skeptics are asking of Christian’s and theists and they fail miserably at it; simply because your pattern of thinking is so constrained that you couldn’t come up to the evidentiary examples I provided to you yourself from your poor analogy.
Outstanding on the word of our God and savior Jesus Christ. Hears one for the evolutionist. If we evolved from apes Wy are there still apes.
Thank you, brother Ken Ham.
Why do people keep asking "if we evolved from apes, why are there still apes"? It shows an egregious misunderstanding of Evolution. It's a nonsensical question. Get yourself a good book on Evolution.
I would require something similar from them telling them they are not allowed to quote anyone either.
You can turn that question around as follows: You are asking me to explain a scientific topic without using science because "I don't trust it."
I don't have to try to convince anyone that God exists because my beliefs are based on FAITH & LOVE for his son Jesus Christ!! All other beliefs seem to be ok with all other faiths or beliefs except for God & his son & and Holy Spirit, that alone tell me he's real as can be❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Even demons know who they are and coward!!😍🙌🙏😮
Richard Dawkins said several times that there is no evidence for the existence of Jesus. He had to eventually agree that he lied. Deception and lies abound in this world. I pray i have the courage to always stand up for the truth.
Matthew 19:26. It is possible to come to believe in the Lord Jesus. The starting point is people must want to believe in the one and only true God. Believing in God is a process of building of a personal relationship with Him. The fruition of this trustful relationship is total surrender. Anyone can call out: Is there a true God out there? Please come and help me. God will be there.
Decades with the church, my head pastor told me twice that it is not literally true about Jesus Christ
Science is not an enemy of God. John Lennox is an Oxford mathematician who does a wonderful job explaining the concept of this to lay people and those in the scientific field. Everyone should take a great interest into explaining what they believe. I believe your eternal life should be a great interest to everyone.
Thank you Ken for reminding me to always go back to the starting point
16:33 I didn't get his point. What did he mean when he asked her, are you prepared to change any of that?
You are a good fruit Brother Ken Ham..ty for all you do
He's a fruit? I thought that was forbidden in christianity?
Ken Ham is a Fruit Loop who is a pseudoscientist
I'm glad that he reduced "conservatism" to being un-associated with God and His Word.
They are NOT the same.
Love you, Ken, but I disagree with your criticism of the ID movement. The mission of that movement is to combat secular scientists on their own turf using their own methodology to point out the fallacy of Darwinian and Neo-Darwinian evolution. I think it's perfectly acceptable to use different strategies to fight a multi-front war and I don't believe it's a non-Scriptural idea - 1 Cor 9:19-23.
JESUS IS TOO BEAUTIFUL,INTEGRATE,TRUE,CONSISTENT,..HE IS A MIRACLE TO THIS WORLD!!!
The creation museum and ark encounter are two of the most astonishing places on this planet. Everyone should visit at least once. You can easily spend two days at each. We attended for two days total and I so wish we had booked 4 days total.
The Creation warehouse and Ark Encounter contain 99 percent religious dogma and 1 percent genuine science
The Bible is the truth.. Keep it in your hands, heart, and mind..
Why not the Bible should be the rebuttal? Even if they don't believe the theology, we have many historical documents in these biblical manuscripts. The things written inside correlate very well with biology, archaeology, history, geography, other valid historical documents, physical science, prophecy... Without the Bible, we have no basis nor history nor reference for our Christian faith. And they must first prove the Bible to be an unreliable witness.
The obligation is on the person making the claim, not the other way around.
Sorry that’s just how logic works.
@@RealHooksy
What obligation? What logic? Every point must be cross examined, for and against the claim. The important thing is the weight of the evidence, and whether the evidence for and against is valid. Without examining all witnesses, the judgment is flawed and evaluation incomplete. And the evidence is examined in the light of correlation with other sources like history, archaeology, science, etc. It applies to ideas found in all historical documents, including religious ones. If it is logical, it will uphold what is for it, but more, takes down what is against it. To be scientific and rational, the claim not only must affirm what is supporting it but able to refute opposing views.
Why doesn’t this have more views
People have got more sense.
'Cos Ham is like spam, too much makes you feel sick.
If it was proven then i believe Father would be happiest knowing everyone wont perish from lack of knowledge, but sadly its called faith proof is within and if your eyes are open in truth then you can see Fathers handy work throughout the lands and sky
Amen! Amen! Amen! Do not change your starting point friends. Stand firm on the word of God! See; Matthew 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. And then keep on reading right on down to the end of Revelation 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
This is a major issue these days, to many people and churches don't know, follow or use the word of God
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
Voltaire
@@AtamMardes atheism started when the first Marxist met the first narcissist
@@nathanhoard3421And as the first narcissist was called God, we seem to have come round full circle.
@@nathanhoard3421 If you are honest with yourself you can't deny the fact that man made Allah, the God of the Bible, Romulus, Zalmoxis, Osiris, Krishna, Zeus, Satan, Bible, Quran, heaven, hell, angles, Garden of Eden, Adam & Eve, sin, savior, sacrifice, resurrection, parting the Red Sea, walking on water, splitting the moon, salvation, Santa Clause, Tooth Fairy, Superman, Batman, Darth Vader, etc.
@@nathanhoard3421 Simple question: Animals want to live their lives just like u do. U thank God for giving life to u & also for giving life to animals for u to take their lives & eat them. Don't u see how they've tricked you to believe in an imaginary God by fooling u to arrogantly ignoring your hypocrisy & narcissism?
We should be able to establish the preconditions, the pluasibilty credibility and foundations of faith, independently of scriptural testimony and witness, and in fact this parallel approach can and does work. The coding language of molecular biology does indeed point beyond itself to a non material causal agency, because a language code can not work without an intelligence to make a meaningful statement in the coding language, and it requires an intelligence to understand and decode that meaning. This goes beyond information as just being mere organization or structural functional order, it is a meta level of order, it is mind not merely matter. It is goal and purpose not merely existence.
You can talk about good or bad habbits whithout naming any of them because some will always say all are good and bad
But i think think of any of the 10 commandments would be bad in a court with honest good people
So what did the believing Jews use at the time of Christ to believe?
the argument I give to someone that says I can't use the Bible is this:
How come there are thousands of testimonies of people calling on Jesus's name and receiving new life? All over the world, all nations, all backgrounds, all diferent youtube channels
Simple, they "drank" the snake oil. It doesn't make X true just because a bunch of people fall for X.
If I can't use the Bible for my proving of creation then they can't use evolution to explain nothing.
Yeah, darwins book is out too
That's all we want. Don't assume either the Bible or any other faith or belief is true, and start there. For me I know the Bible can't be true because the first 2 books of the Bible have so many nonsensical parts.
@@peskymenplopsBUT, evolution can’t get as far as the first two stages in process without characteristics like, mechanics, assembly, energy. There is theory at best with multiple missing gaps that are yet to be found. The faith that evolution requires is staggering.
“In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
- 2 Corinthians 4:4
That makes zero sense
The Bible is in everything that we say and do since there is no power that is not of God. Everything we are is given by God. Everything there is is given by God.
True. ❤
Its amazingly sad how people will easily believe something so they may continue to live as they wish or in their sin.
I start with the gospel, God's power unto salvation..start with sin... how can sin be forgiven... share what Jesus did on the cross...
How about you start with one piece of evidence for God.
If you get 2 biblical scholars that come to a different conclusion using the Bible as the starting point, how do you determine who is correct?
Could be they're both wrong?
@@rozzgrey801 how do you find out if they are both wrong?
@@hasone1848 By looking at what they claim, asking for the reasoning behind it and checking the evidence they provide to support it. You then weigh up both cases and if one seems strongly supported that one is most likely right, but if neither case is sufficiently supported they may both be wrong. In some rare cases with sufficient latitude of interpretation, they may both be partially right.
@@rozzgrey801 In Ken Ham's case, he claim's the bible is true. His reason is the bible says the bible is true and he starts with the bible. He has zero evidence for any of it. Every other hard core pastor says basically the same thing with no evidence. And your right "if neither case is sufficiently supported they may both be wrong" because is it more logical that all religions are wrong than one being right with the amount of evidence that is presented. And latitude of interpretation just means what you think is right or just your opinion which gets us no closer to the truth than where we started. Can I ask what evidence you think Ken Ham has for his claim that the bible is true?
@@hasone1848 Ham clearly has no evidence the bible is true at all, and is just trying to use clever but deceitful arguments to hide the fact he has nothing but circular reasoning and is caught in a mental loop that seems to self-validate but is simply delusional.
Why debate?
God's revelation of Himself is progressive. Gods principles of truth is eternal, because truth is indestructible.
The short answer is No.
Even a very thorough and complete answer is "No". Although it might be worth adding that with or without the Bible, the answer is still "No".
@@user-ex4wx1rj7s I know.
@@user-ex4wx1rj7s "....but, but, but mah boybul!!!"
This is one long circular argument. The Bible being the Word of God is the claim, so cannot be the evidence of that claim. You have to say why you believe it is the Word of God, not just that it is the Word of God.
The Bible is composed of many books written by different writers so one writer can confirm another writers information.
Your confused on applying circular reasoning to the Bible.
One author: many writers : some of these writers state that the Bible is the Word of God as God first picked them and inspired them in their writings.
The Bible is the only book in the world that is self attesting. It unflinchingly claims that God is the beginning and the end and proceeds to demonstrate that. It is full of prophecies that have been fulfilled and some still awaiting fulfillment. It speaks to the deepest needs and desires that a human has and actually provides the fulfillment of those in Jesus. It actually transforms the people who hear and believe it's words, setting them free from all sorts of bondage.
You can not simply dismiss the millions of people who have testified to being radically changed for the better by hearing and believing God's word.
It is also circular to say that there is no supernatural, and I'll prove it by not admitting any claims to the supernatural and only using natural science.
What others here have said is true. Archeology supports the Bible. Where it says things are, they are. And the prophicies that are so obviously true today. Just read about the destruction of bablyon and go look at it today. Some dude named Saddam Hussain was trying to rebuild the walls but something randomly happened to him and he stopped..... More proof that there is a God and the Bible contains His Word.
It is not one long circular argument. People who believe the Bible have good reasons to- you could look into it- Mike Winger Bible Thinker has some reasonable ideas. My fave is fulfilled prophecy. But Ken started with operational science - DNA- a language. We all have assumptions that we start with to approach these questions. Just because they are our starting point don't assume they haven't been well thought through will lots of good reasons to have them.
Israel is hardly a circular argument
Fortunately we have the Bible. Though I do think that if Christianity is true it should be still be true without the Bible. If it was the case we didn’t have the Bible I believe God would reveal himself. Which is why we have it to begin with.
Why do we need to argue/ convince?
I think the most convincing thing is to live the christian life as Paul laid out so well.
If challenged i simply say my faith is based on evidence. If people want to know more I'm happy to help.
Pointless arguing with those dead set against.
The Aramaic & Greek New Testaments actually don't say that men SUPPRESS the truth in unrighteousness. That's a mistranslation. The text says that those people were *HOLDING* (possessing, having)" *the truth IN/WITH EVIL* (iniquitously, harmfully, injuriously, wrongfully, unjustly, IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS [Grk])" *(Romans 1:18 P'shitta).*
@@Mario_Sky_521 - I am an expert in Bible translation as well. I have read all the Aramaic Old & New Testaments. I have also read all of the Greek NT and over 90% of the Hebrew & Greek Old Testaments. I am able to make a determination on a matter. Also, in regard to this verse, it is possible that the Greek translation of the Aramaic text influenced the translator's interpretation due to the Greek word's other shade of meaning of "HOLD DOWN (-fast), etc." Or it could be due to the translator's bias, prejudice, ignorance, conditioning, etc.; which is affecting them to give an accurate TRANSLATION (interpretation).
The following translations agree with my interpretation on biblehub: KJV, Aramaic in Plain English, Webster's Bible Translation, - ERV, LSV & Young's partially.
Next time don't assume & think that you must be right based on your preferred Translation. My interpretation is based on the most obvious meaning of the Aramaic text. See the other Aramaic-English Translations such as: (AENT, Etheridge, Bauscher, etc.). Research what I said. Learn the original Languages b/c it is necessary. There is a lot of Biblical mistranslation or the translation isn't the best that it could be. Also, one English word can't always capture the full meaning(s) of the source texts. You're missing out.
Even the Greek word KATEXO also means: to HOLD (have, possess, etc.) elsewhere. See: (Jn. 5:4; 1 Cor. 7:30; 6:10; etc.). Other occurrences of that word can also be translated as "HOLD(-ing), etc."
Proving creation is easy..
The seventh day Sabbath of the forth commandment..
Why do we have a seven day weekly cycle?
Is this a joke?
@@LordMathious what? I asked the question..where does the seven day WEEKLY cycle come from? What astronomical phenomena explains it?
@timothycasey8675 The seven day week came before Christianity. You know that, right?
@@LordMathious ...Jesus gave mankind the seven day cycle..crowing it with the Sabbath as the reminder to us of where we come from..Evolution is the counterfeit...hence my question about proving creation..
@@timothycasey8675 That's wrong. The 7 day week came before the time of Jesus.
How is someone picking a day of the week proof for creation? What are you thinking?
16:16 A good scientist doesn't discount ignore or wish away creditable evidence
Scientists don't bother much with religious myths 'cos they're just religious myths, funny old stories.
Why I choose to believe the Bible by Voddie Bauchum.