Josh Pate On Dabo Swinney's Legacy + Clemson's Future (Late Kick Cut)
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- Dabo Swinney and Clemson have enjoyed a remarkable run of success over the past decade, and on Late Kick Live Ep 523 Josh Pate responded to a viewer question about Dabo's legacy and how he'll be remembered in College Football history. Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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List of coaches winning two National Championships in the last 30 years:
1. Dabo Swiney
2. Nick Saban
3. Urban Meyer
4. Kirby Smart
Pete Carroll
Urban Meyer would take it due to not being in the same program for years and years like Saban and Dabo. Dabo is trash. Venebales carried his ass and once he left, Dabo has been exposed. Welcome to back to mediocrity and irrelevancy.
@@nicojones5785 bro you know Clemsons has had top ten defenses without venables. Offense has been bad but defense has held up. Tell me you don’t watch football without telling me
Why did you list Dabo first? Saban’s first.
@@Codydog125 top 10 defenses without Venebales?!? LMFAO!!!!!!!! He recruited those guys soy boy. Now he’s taking them to Oklahoma. Sit down and enjoy your fast track to irrelevancy. 😂😂😂😂😂
As a Bama fan I absolutely love Dabo especially as a man. I’ll cheer for him and the Tigers as long as they don’t play us haha
Always felt a strange connection to bama after the back and forth, respect amongst both fanbases that isn't seen (at least I haven't seen) with any other fanbase
Maybe because Dabo attended and played for Alabama ? He’s definitely done a ton for Clemson, no question about it !
For me it’s because so much of my family besides my youngest daughter and I attended Clemson.
My youngest daughter decided on Bama.
Still have good natured ribbing sessions with Dad, sister, brother, and brothers kids over Clemson vs Bama. Always a good time ;)
RTR
What dabo has done is nothing short of amazing.
Dabo legacy is cemented
Carry on
The fact that Nick Saban essentially admitted he retired in large part due to the changes of College Football means to me that those changes can’t tarnish Dabo’s legacy.
Dabo will be back on top this year! Mark it DOWN!
Only 66 more days until college football fellas
Not too bad when you put it that way
That’s way too long
Tahj Boyd, Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence...what a run. Can't wait to do something like this in CF25 with Rutgers.
Love him or hate him he did win, even if he’s stubborn about the transfer portal; dude still knows how to coach
He won with hiesman caliber qb only. Built a team 2 times not a program. Many have had a few good yrs but not sustained winning. In the easiest conference at the time he won it
@@RT22-pb2pp So he recruited well which is part of said legacy? and developed them. And then beat the best team in those other "best big brother" conferences for both those NC wins.I dont even like Dabo but sounds like youre just hating.
Most sane bama fan
@@GHoutdoors last time he won was with great qb sucked since
@@RT22-pb2pp name a coach or school who has one a national championship without averaging recruiting classes in the top 10. Recruiting good players only adds to college coach’s legacy, it doesn’t tarnish it. Saban, Meyer, Smart wouldn’t win without great players. No team, since the major recruiting sites (like Rivals, 247, on3) have been around, has won a national championship without being in the top 10 a few years in recruiting. Before those sites became a thing, we didn’t know how good teams were recruiting but I would say it would be the same.
I'm an Oregon Fan who loves Dabo. Let him coach his own way and let's see how it goes.
Lol how many yrs do you need to see he had 2 great yrs when he had 2 great qbs
He’s easily the best coach in the history of the Clemson program though.
RTR
Dabo has two national titles and has played in six college playoffs. Clemson should be grateful and he’s done an outstanding job.
We are grateful, I promise. I remember the wilderness pre-Dabo. I remember being on probation in the 80's. Dabo has won and he has won the right way - he has made every dream this alum has ever had come true!
People should root for Clemson. Their program values align with the traditional, pre-NIL football values. I would like to see them in the SEC with Georgia as the yearly rival.
That would be WAY cool ! Bring the Noles with y’all as well :)
RTR
We get Georgia Clemson week 1 this year. Go Tigers!! Every one back on the ROY bus.
Dabo is the Clemson GOAT no matter what happens from here. If you don't think so, grow up.
Dabo got us here doing things his way, and yea the game has changed, but as a Clemson fan (born 86') I honestly never thought we would have 1 let alone multiple championships in my lifetime. His way is growing young men not football players, he doesn't want to use the portal because, I believe, he sees those men as unloyal; you made a pledge... honor it. I can honestly say I'd prefer no one else... ever. He's brought more than we ever could've imagined. I grew up 10 minutes from Clemson... there's nothing there or at least there wasn't before Dabo. Just getting high caliber players is a feat in its self. And let me pose this question, who are you going to get to come in and do a better job? Who says something doesn't change with the portal and all the teams that oriented themselves in that direction are left at a new disadvantage. The man wants to do things his way, the respectable way, and yea that doesn't always culminate in victories but to not believe in the man makes me believe you don't understand that he truly cares about the future of his players as people rather than just a meat factory that most of these other high profile colleges are. Proud to be a Tiger.
You are spot on! Dabo and Kath have done more for Clemson than any other football coach at Clemson and that includes Coach Ford. The goal for Dabo is not winning football championships every year. He is goal is to compete for national championships but do so with young men who are going to leave Clemson with a degree and be unbelievable leaders in whatever the choose to do with the rest of their lives. I thank Dabo for sticking to the culture of the program and building something that Clemson fans and graduates can be proud of.
I actually believe that instead of Dabo evolving that college football wil re-evolve into a scenario where Dabo is more successful again. I don't believe he just fades away. Currently college football and NIL is not sustainable. As things rapidly evolve it could reshape in a manner where Dabo's philosophy and player centered loyalty pays divedends.
Agreed
I may be totally off base ... but it looks like the lack of use of the portal would affect both sides of the ball. Right? Clemson D is still strong. Clemson O is the problem the last few years. I point to Streeter the first time OC at D1 level, Austin 1st time O-line coach, Grisham 1st time WR coach, Spiller 1st time RB coach. They are not developing players (2) 5* QB's and (1) 4*, and they all regressed. IOP, bad coaching hires on Offense, not the portal.
dabos coaching hires are the biggest reason for clemson struggles, very good take. i’ll add that the last two seasons the best wr on the team has been a freshman (antonio williams) and (tyler brown). clearly a lack of development on the offensive side , tho his recent hires indicate he’s learned from those mistakes
A great coach who’s too stuck in his ways while the game moves on.
I have followed Clemson for 25 years now. I love how Dabo coaches and how he built Clemson. I do not want him to change his principles. A large portion of the Clemson fan base fills the same as I do. The minority is just loud. I Strongly believe that Dabo will go on another run. The down years at Clemson has more to do with losing a LARGE portion of the coaches at the program. Dabo does not do things fast. That means it will take a 3 or 4 years to get the coaching back to where he wants it. Once that Happens Clemson will be back.
Great Post. They think we care about their incorrect opinions about OUR DABO. Dabo will be OUR COACH as long as he want. Haters gonna hate. Go Tigers.
Clemson is gearing up for another multi championship run 2025-2028 and beyond. This year who knows. 10-11 wins would be a good year
All in with Dabo. With out Dabo there would be no Clemson. We love him.
I am a sc fan . You can't do what dabo has done 👋
College Football peaked with Clemson v Alabama . those were the best years and best teams in the past 50 years. if you don't know. you just don't know and go watch your Michael Jordan highlights.
Exactly. With all due respect to Klatt, we are not entering the golden age. Bama vs Clemson (and some years OSU and LSU) was the golden age. Best teams, best QBs, best football
Growing up a die hard Georgia fan, but a Clemson student now I can really respect Dabo. Go dawgs forever tho
Come to the good side and become a Clemson fan
Clemsons glory days are long gone.
Dabo has a change to put Clemson back on the scene if they can bear uga
Unless someone is revealed to be a horrible human being, it’s hard to “take away” success. So many things have to go right to win, to see it “tarnished” because you can’t repeat it multiple times, seems a little harsh. I can understand peoples frustration that Dabo won’t use the portal, but that doesn’t diminish what he’s accomplished.
If Russell Wilson's career was a football coach itd be named Dabo.
Dabo is 54 years old. If he only wins 9 games per year for the next 16 years, you add 144 wins to his total. That is 170 + 144 = 314 Wins. NICK SABAN has 292 Total Wins. Get it? Nick is 72, Dabo will be 70. The great Bear Bryant has 323 Total Wins.
Further decline with Clemson won't necessarily harm Dabo's legacy on its own. It does, however, shift how he would be viewed in an all-time perspective. If Clemson doesn't come close to winning a title with Dabo again, he will be seen as a great coach from the 2010s that refused to change and he will completely fall out of any consideration for top-all times lists, probably
les miles
I'm 100% gamecock but with the way I feel about CFB right now Its hard not to admire Dabo.
They haveno legacy rhey had a few good yrs. Legacy is long term not a blip on the screen.
Since 2011 he has only had 1 season with less than 10 wins. In 2023 he had an “abysmal” 9 wins. Yea, sounds like only a few good years.
Your legacy is a crusty sock shamefully stuffed under your bed.
One of the greatest of all time!!
NIL ran Saban out and it’s gonna run out Dabo, too. What a shame.
Put clemson in the miami group. Search under yesteryear. 😂😂
Frank Broyles won one natty , which made him an entire career at U of Arkansas !!! What obvious nubie is asking this question !!!
i like dabo because he denied bama TWO national championships (and 49 states love him for it!)
Hating Dabo is either jealousy or just being a hater
Or a Gamecock
@@paulainsc8212 I said hater. HA. At least that hate I understand.
People need to understand it’s okay to not be Georgia and Alabama he had really great years at the top but just doesn’t have the boosters to keep up with the big schools
I find it wild that non-Clemson fans want us to conform to being a cookie cutter program so bad. We are just different, I will never understand how this is not okay…
people assume and say this coaches are leaving because of the NIL and transfer portal; then you have Dabo Sweeny 😂😂😂
The fact that Alabama didn’t offer the job to dabo tells u a lot
Only didn’t cause he doesn’t use the portal most likely
@@OneChance1_official ya I wouldn’t doubt that at all, it’s definitely a advantage for the coaches that know how to use it, dabo should have been a lock for the job though, he’s from Alabama played for Alabama and has a good relationship with saban,5 years ago if saban retired he would no doubt get the job
They did offer Dabo but he turned him down
About Five years ago, majority of that fanbase was still warm on Dabo coming back home. For years and years, that's all we heard. Dabo is coming back home when Saban retires. I knew that things could change with Dabo and that program. The tramp of college football was going to go on the stroll to get in bed with the hot prick (Bama).
Because 'Bama's foolish ah (not to offer Swinney)??
🙄
Brent does not get any credit for turning Clemson around just sad
FSU used the portal and didn't make the playoffs .and got chrushed UGA .it took OT beat poor little old (on portal) clemson. Portal might be over rated. Go dabo!
Michigan used the portal and won the national championship lol
Yes poor little Fsu a team with 5 wins a couple years ago closed the gap on clemson in two years using the portal when it would of taken them 4 to 6 years to do it pre portal. At this rate if Dabo doesn't wake up clemson will be far behind in FSU’s rearview and I'm not even a fsu fan.
Stay bitter old man. You know clemson is retreating back to mediocrity 😂😂😂
Clemson came from winning two National Championships to losing to Duke. What changed?
And before Dabo they did nothing
@@exomake_mehorololo that still doesn't change the fact that they can't beat Duke. Clemson is going to get exposed by Georgia since Clemson can't even beat Duke
@@WangHungLoexposed by Ga? Most teams lose to Ga buddy, they’re the Alabama of cfp right now. Clemson won’t lose by 50 though. And they’ll be in the playoffs at the end of the season
@@craigcorbett6510 they won't make it to the playoffs if they keep losing to programs like Duke
@@nicholastaiariol2631 before Deshaun Watson we had Taj Boyd who held the passing record in the ACC and we were still one of the top dogs in the ACC before that. In 2013 we went 11-2 and beat Ohio state in the orange bowl.
Fire Dabo. He is washed and won’t change. Turning into overrated university
Dabo’s legacy is Venebales carrying him across that very super short win streak…all of 6 years.
What???? Venables has been gone for two years and the defense hasn’t missed a beat!