"Who else needs to read this?" ah I wish I asked myself that question on behalf of myself now, 2 years later, with variables named var1, var2 , tempvar1 and functions function1, function2. It works perfectly though
@@BigTarkus it's for the humans, computers don't mind. We all do this when we are beginners (or too advanced to be human) or simply don't care for small programs.
"it's my library." best line period. there is so much lore created in just this one statement. a complete other life that only they know about. love it.
How’d you do that though? You first need to find a software job in US being in your e.g. European country and that’s not easy. There are many US employees and that’s preferred I’d guess. I have a degree and few years of experience
I used to be that 10xer until my divorce where I chose to my use my higher productivity to lower my hours and spend the rest of it doing nothing because fuck it. Not doing that at my current job though because it's an amazing role.
@@TragicGFuel Like Gabe told us: PTSD. Either you continiously start thinking you are not good enough, or your boss will casually compare your performance to the 10x. Also, from working with such declared geniouses I have learned it is far easier to hack into 10 different languages/ecosystems than having to figure out what the genious cobbled together. But hey, try explaining that to your boss. The 10x'er was the one who made everything possible, who are you to go against him. Most of the time, they are quite resourceful people though. Just not infallible.
Not only have I seen this IRL, I've actually been that guy. I quit and they hired two people to replace me. Both of them quit within six months and they had to effectively discontinue the product. They lost literally millions in revenue because they wouldn't give me a measly $15k/yr raise.
@@kb-zealot Exactly. Given the handover costs and the massive decrease in productivity when losing a 10x dev they'd be better off pretty much doubling the dev's salary and they'd still come out ahead. Sadly in my experience middle managers are typically midwits who are incapable of recognizing 10x devs. Just like in the video, they don't make a fuss and make it all look so easy.
Funny thing is in the past that use to be possible on a web application. You could write something called an 'applet' that would mostly be used for ads and you could inject code into the user's pc through the browser. It was mostly used for hacking, which is why they removed a lot of JS capability in browsers. NodeJS is closer to the JS they use to use on a browser.
"Have you updated the Jira board?" "We don't need Jira anymore, I emptied the board anyway." "You emptied it?!" "Yeah I deleted all the items I did last weekend."
As someone who is on the other end of the spectrum and I am procrastinating from actually writing the architectural documents, I *think* I may have to go the "cba work, lets do content shit and see where it takes us". In other words, you are onto something here, but not in the way you actually pictured it.
Was so funny, the day before the news broke I was on the Congress and the "openssl in broken" already spread like wildfire and someone hacked the openssl website, and defaced it,which was shipped with the valid ssl key. 🥲 Not sure if that was even the real webserver or if someone had changed the dns entry and used the stolen ssl private key to ship the defaced website from their own server 😅 Next day the first news outlets covered heartbleed.
I only used Haskell once, no one noticed, but there's an important routing piece of software in which $200M of transactions per month is passing thought it, no one knows how to do maintenance on that. I call that : "my retirement plan".
@@Ganerrr i hope the amount of successful projects you have will be higher than the amount of flip resets you can do. The ability to grind is definitely there, so its just a question of time :)
That's because you didn't use Perl, there's already a SU(2) library. Its called SuperUniverse2. Actually its Special unitary group, its the math you need to create a universe.
The writing as always is good, but the disaffected focus of the lead guy is the most real thing I have ever experienced. I have definitely said "I could have it done in twenty minutes, if you leave"
@Dredge22 I've had a couple of meetings where we were discussing desired features of the product (the meeting was actually useful), and I implemented a feature just after it was decided we needed it, while the meeting was still going. It was a really straightforward feature, but still fun to see the reactions :P
@@plaintext7288 It start to glow white hot after about 25 concurrent users. Our current infrastructure protocol is sending a guy out to buy a bag of ice that it can sit in at peak times.
Omg "no, hire less engineers" Ive worked with that VP of Dev. Fought their way to the top of the dev heap, absolutely unable to manage, delegate, or accept anyone elses ideas
Last month, I migrated 90% of our office websites to my Proxmox homelab, and my boss had a meltdown! 😅 Is that the same thing he's referring to? I did it for cost-cutting and, honestly, it was the most satisfying thing I've done in ages.😊
@@nicesoul It's just a funny attention to detail I noticed - the fact the project manager in the video is constantly reacting to the "10x engineer" with a "what?!" both surprised and confused at the same time.
creates custom terminal interface because the current one refused to do 1 minor function, then ends up not using it after all the development because he's use to the original one
0:44 yes, there's a working cuda driver for linux, its called running the LSW, Linux Subsystem for Windows, non-ironically you run the Windows NT Core stripped down to 150MB just to load 600MB of NVidia blob using the Xen Hypervisor with the GPU pass-through, that only costs 1% of performance, but you gain 15% of performance because no linux driver for NVidia is as good as the Windows one.
I saw the short version of this and started binge watching old videos from your channel.. and now there's a new video! It's Christmas in July!! Before you say it's not July yet, it's July in New Zealand. Am I in New Zealand? No, but that doesn't matter.
Don't know how many times I've watched this since release. I saw the short version first. Beyond LOLZ. Can't wait for the movie length version. Great vid, PAAH.
"We're two Javascript frameworks away from actually launching this" "What?!" "I'm joking, I'm joking... It's all lost and hopeless" my favorite lines by far
Man the fact that he tries everything to dodge more engineers and project managers effing up his work is spot on. He knows that he not only needs to teach them everything, which will take time and be a pain in the ass, they will most likely ef something up that he will have to fix.
the irony of trying to be fast at software development is that even if you're fast, all the code has to pass through a bunch of humans before the computers take over, so you end up lagging to the speed of your slowest team member anyway. thus, i can write a thousand lines of code in a day, every few months.
so this video is a part of what got me into wanting to program, I have come back to laugh at this multiple times and each time I get another layer of the jokes as I learn more about this world. Todays laugh was all the errors listed on the TV! 😂
"Who else needs to read this?" I love it. Also it's me, whenever I wrote something "genius" and I am like "it's perfect already, why'd u need to read that anyway?"
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So much more one wouldn’t believe it
hire more/better marketing people. your shameless selfpromotion still needs a lot of work to become efficient. ^^P
Is that the openssl bug that you were talking about?
Always playing 5d chess they never know what hit them
Make another episode. In fact - just start a channel with this guy.
"We inject the software in the customer's windows distribution"
well...that aged well.
Prophecy :D
Crowdstrike lol
😂😂😂😂
Don’t inject anything into my body unless it’s heroin.
like fine milk
"3-4 hours, if you leave the room maybe 2" Brutal!
accurate
3-5*
Planning to work that into tomorrow morning's standup meeting.
but *very* realistic ;-)
1 hour if everyone stops asking
“Why was my phone so hot during the demo”
“The android version mines monero in the background”
lmao
😂 hot potato coin
:'''''''''''''''''''''D
I was actually thinking of this. Make an app totally free but I get a 10% usage out of the phones processing power towards mining whatever I want.
@@Shpongle64is it.. legal?
"What about making it readable"
- "Who else needs to read this?"
Welcome to the life of developers.
"Who else needs to read this?" ah I wish I asked myself that question on behalf of myself now, 2 years later, with variables named var1, var2 , tempvar1 and functions function1, function2. It works perfectly though
@@q1337 lol yeah that's pretty intense
@@q1337for a computer
@@q1337 god awful
@@BigTarkus it's for the humans, computers don't mind. We all do this when we are beginners (or too advanced to be human) or simply don't care for small programs.
Don't touch this , it's part of our infra.. lol
that's his HSM programmed in baseboard LOL
DIY FIDO token
He's running the database on a raspberry pi 😆
Ah, good old knowledge silos.
@@mattropolis99 We call them knowledge “towers” 😆
"Its my library" that's a flex
except... He built a library that doesn't fit their use-case LMAOOOOOOO
It doesn't even fit their use case! He just built a library for the hell of it and then didn't even make it fit their use case!
@@Coach-Solar_Hound life-hobby balance, that's savage
It's a wild flex. The guy is insane, but he doesn't let work crunch ruin his off time.
Compilers do always be complaining fr
Truth, they are worse than managers
they do be like that all the time
fr fr
I haven't coded in 20 years and this still hits.
@@revcrussellI haven’t coded and this still hits
"I rewrote all the things to Rust. Performance wasn't better so I rewrote it back."
Sounds like a skill issue.
Cope n seethe @@VoicesInDark
@@VoicesInDark Real 10x engineer can make javascript perform better than Assembly
'Compilers always be complaining' had me dying laughing🤭
@@VoicesInDark cope and seethe
"it's my library." best line period. there is so much lore created in just this one statement. a complete other life that only they know about. love it.
"Publicly!?"
"Yeah, but it's *super* performant."
Yeah, fair enough.
- Is that your diploma?
- Yeah, I needed it for a visa.
So true 🌚
@MrBong0 Because illegal immigrants worry about their diploma lol
@MrBong0joke's on you, ICE can't touch me.
@MrBong0 visa = legal btw
that's the only use I ever got out of my degrees
How’d you do that though? You first need to find a software job in US being in your e.g. European country and that’s not easy. There are many US employees and that’s preferred I’d guess.
I have a degree and few years of experience
- Not everything needs a kernel patch, I just turned it on and off
- What is that??
- Custom linux
Had me cracking :DD
"you're good at front end too?" triggered me. I got PTSD from working with a 10x dev.
Im curious what's it like working with one?
@@TragicGFuel It's endlessly upping the expectations so you'll want to work yourself to death.
I used to be that 10xer until my divorce where I chose to my use my higher productivity to lower my hours and spend the rest of it doing nothing because fuck it.
Not doing that at my current job though because it's an amazing role.
@@JasonRobards2 that still doesn't provide much insight I'm afraid :C
@@TragicGFuel Like Gabe told us: PTSD. Either you continiously start thinking you are not good enough, or your boss will casually compare your performance to the 10x.
Also, from working with such declared geniouses I have learned it is far easier to hack into 10 different languages/ecosystems than having to figure out what the genious cobbled together. But hey, try explaining that to your boss. The 10x'er was the one who made everything possible, who are you to go against him.
Most of the time, they are quite resourceful people though. Just not infallible.
Only missing the part where they get bored and move on leaving chaos in their wake
Not only have I seen this IRL, I've actually been that guy. I quit and they hired two people to replace me. Both of them quit within six months and they had to effectively discontinue the product. They lost literally millions in revenue because they wouldn't give me a measly $15k/yr raise.
“Who else needs to read this?” 😵
@@dave6012 💀💀💀
It's worth just paying more $ to keep them, they won't leave if they don't have a reason to and knowledge-transfer never actually works
@@kb-zealot Exactly. Given the handover costs and the massive decrease in productivity when losing a 10x dev they'd be better off pretty much doubling the dev's salary and they'd still come out ahead. Sadly in my experience middle managers are typically midwits who are incapable of recognizing 10x devs. Just like in the video, they don't make a fuss and make it all look so easy.
"...we use tru-edge, we inject program into windows distro" - the first punchline and it's already perfect 😂
Funny thing is in the past that use to be possible on a web application. You could write something called an 'applet' that would mostly be used for ads and you could inject code into the user's pc through the browser.
It was mostly used for hacking, which is why they removed a lot of JS capability in browsers. NodeJS is closer to the JS they use to use on a browser.
"Have you updated the Jira board?"
"We don't need Jira anymore, I emptied the board anyway."
"You emptied it?!"
"Yeah I deleted all the items I did last weekend."
I like to think this whole channel is just some guy procrastination from actually writing his first line of code.
As someone who is on the other end of the spectrum and I am procrastinating from actually writing the architectural documents, I *think* I may have to go the "cba work, lets do content shit and see where it takes us". In other words, you are onto something here, but not in the way you actually pictured it.
"SSL is a joke.. I know the guy who built the backdoor"
LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Was so funny, the day before the news broke I was on the Congress and the "openssl in broken" already spread like wildfire and someone hacked the openssl website, and defaced it,which was shipped with the valid ssl key. 🥲
Not sure if that was even the real webserver or if someone had changed the dns entry and used the stolen ssl private key to ship the defaced website from their own server 😅
Next day the first news outlets covered heartbleed.
"We're two javascript frameworks away from actually launching this" yoo I'm ded 💀💀💀
I only used Haskell once, no one noticed, but there's an important routing piece of software in which $200M of transactions per month is passing thought it, no one knows how to do maintenance on that.
I call that : "my retirement plan".
Youre never getting fired
With a username like “monad_tcp” i suspect you’ve used haskell more than once
The SSH vulnerability bit actually came true 💀
and will again
It gets worse because I think he said SSL...
His reaction to hiring a project manager lol
"product manager", project managers are easy prey
"Our network is down"
"Perfect" * beep * * clicks on casio *
"I was stress testing it" * beep * * beep*
“We don’t need the UI” 😂
Even a 10x engineer doesn't want to fuck around w Vulkan bugs lol
We only need an api and the console
Reminds me when Primagen and Teej built coffee shop on ssh terminal
"I'm horrible at coding", guess I was a 10x developer all along!
im a 10x dev with adderall except it just makes me unaware im taking 10x longer to do everything
did not expect RL people here :)
@@deviansee one day i will be known for programming and not car soccer
@@Ganerrr i hope the amount of successful projects you have will be higher than the amount of flip resets you can do. The ability to grind is definitely there, so its just a question of time :)
NO!
Glad there are people like you maintaining the shortage, so people who actually need it can't function properly. :)))))
If you want to have cloud infrastructure, you must first invent the universe. This should only take 20 minutes or so.
I didn't expect that reference but I highly appreciate it.
That's because you didn't use Perl, there's already a SU(2) library. Its called SuperUniverse2. Actually its Special unitary group, its the math you need to create a universe.
@@monad_tcp my quarks need more color man, add SU(3) at least
@@pseudolullus and don’t forget to throw in some U(1), I mean what would the universe be without radioactive decay?
It's easy, just simulate the simulation better than the simulation code.
"They're using Arc browser. We don't need those investors" 😂 facts
I use Arc and I support this message.
Why’s arc bad? Thought about trying it but forgot
@@allahinperson6071 idk if it's bad, it's just like who do you think you are, use chrome like the rest of society
@allahinperson6071 Because it's proprietary garbage and doesn't support Linux
@@davidhollenbeck1674 honestly, fuck Chrome
The writing as always is good, but the disaffected focus of the lead guy is the most real thing I have ever experienced. I have definitely said "I could have it done in twenty minutes, if you leave"
@Dredge22 I've had a couple of meetings where we were discussing desired features of the product (the meeting was actually useful), and I implemented a feature just after it was decided we needed it, while the meeting was still going. It was a really straightforward feature, but still fun to see the reactions :P
"i wrote our own crypto. Just to be safe."
💀
the cuda driver on linux hit very hard
Someone's not 10x.
cuBLAS and cuDNN would hit harder 😢
Sorry, PTSD from the previous week...
@@transcended_mind No worries. I also had huge driver issues.
Always have a backup of a backup that you hide
Can't trust humans!
In a thermometer, feel lucky it's not a rectal one.
compiler smalltalk killed me 🤣
Our entire stack's on a Raspberry Pi3 B+. Count yourself lucky.
"Any load is high load"?
@@plaintext7288 It start to glow white hot after about 25 concurrent users. Our current infrastructure protocol is sending a guy out to buy a bag of ice that it can sit in at peak times.
"this was a microwave?" had me in tears
"who else needs to read this"
Can't be more true. You know, just job security
that "you're good at front end too?" was the most engineer thing i ever heard lol
This is more hacker culture content than there have been at defcon in the last 10 years.
Oof
Oof indeed
I mean migrating to Mac-Mini from AWS is truly 10x for a startup tbh...
He's not wrong though with that "compilers always be complaining".
Product manager - he was about to launch into a 4 hour monologue proving why he don't need no PM.
I need an entire day to decode all the jokes.
If you're not here, it might take only a few hours.
“Is that your diploma?!”
“Oh yeah - I needed that for my visa.” 😂😂😂
0:03 this one aged well with Crowdstrike
turns off/on coffee machine and accidentally installs linux in this simple process 😂 love it
No, he turned it on and off.
No, he just literally answered the question he understood. Like "what is this?" meaning "what is it running on?"
Finding a Haskell job is like finishing Ocarina of Time as young Link.
So, you just need a stick and bug yourself to the future?
I'm pretty sure you are wrong, I recall someone doing the latter.
4:37 "Oh that's just compiler small talk." LMAO!!!
Omg "no, hire less engineers" Ive worked with that VP of Dev. Fought their way to the top of the dev heap, absolutely unable to manage, delegate, or accept anyone elses ideas
and then hired devs even shittier than him to feel safe? I know that kind of guy
i'm working for that guy 😂
"3-4 hours, if you leave the room maybe 2" my favorite line
0:25 The Arc browser line actually aged well
Wait til his other predictions come true. We’ll have our 5/9
Did you move our entrire AWS stack to a Mac Mini again 😂
“again”
don't touch the mac mini, its load bearing. (the refrigerator was missing a foot and the mac mini is literally load bearing the refrigerator)
Last month, I migrated 90% of our office websites to my Proxmox homelab, and my boss had a meltdown! 😅 Is that the same thing he's referring to? I did it for cost-cutting and, honestly, it was the most satisfying thing I've done in ages.😊
@@pradeepmax1You moved company infrastructure to your home server without asking?
@@christiansiegert9895it's the boss's fault for giving them the credentials to do so, honestly.
Compiler will always be complaining lmao
Few will catch the subtle but purposeful "what" "what" "what" repetition. It's always a constant "what".
Only if they haven't worked with someone who constantly says, "What‽" (it's an interrobang, a sask.)
(I do this all the time, FWIW.)
@@dr5t3v3 what
Do you use a bépo keyboard or what ?
a bit of context, please.
@@nicesoul It's just a funny attention to detail I noticed - the fact the project manager in the video is constantly reacting to the "10x engineer" with a "what?!" both surprised and confused at the same time.
I know a company that measures the quality of code in "WTFs per minute"
the 10x engineer : facinated by what terminal does when you keep pressing enter
creates custom terminal interface because the current one refused to do 1 minor function, then ends up not using it after all the development because he's use to the original one
That's me
whilst finding out the keyboard buffer length, the average delay, how the code produces that little blink artefact and how to fix it
Knows the person who writes the SSH backdoor, days later regreSSHion CVE drops. Bro is literally him wtf
3:13 you're good at frontend too, yes but I don't do it, only if you double my salary, $200K for the backend and $200K for the frontend.
Don't forget $200k for the project management, $200k for the database and $200k for the infra engineering
0:44 yes, there's a working cuda driver for linux, its called running the LSW, Linux Subsystem for Windows, non-ironically you run the Windows NT Core stripped down to 150MB just to load 600MB of NVidia blob using the Xen Hypervisor with the GPU pass-through, that only costs 1% of performance, but you gain 15% of performance because no linux driver for NVidia is as good as the Windows one.
Cool. I'm still new to linux so half of that flew over my head but anyways...
@@Zeka00 He is saying to run CUDA in a windows virtual machine, lol.
Is this a joke? 'Cause i can't find anything on the topic
@@simplegamer6660 Yes, it's a joke.
Until _you_ have to rewrite it in Rust. Then it's still a joke, it's just not funny anymore.
@@simplegamer6660well, you're missing 10x in your "engineer")
“Is this your diploma on the ground…”
“Yo I need this for my visa”
I’m dead
Installing Doom on the microwave but not knowing it was even a microwave in the first place, real 10x right there.
The SSL joke 😂
this video is genuinely a masterpiece
I fully expected him to pull a lock picking set to get into his backup vault
“Don’t touch this, it’s part of our infra” 😂
I saw the short version of this and started binge watching old videos from your channel.. and now there's a new video! It's Christmas in July!!
Before you say it's not July yet, it's July in New Zealand.
Am I in New Zealand? No, but that doesn't matter.
seems like a runtime error.
TIL New Zealand finally moved their Christmas to a winter month.
Meri kirihimeti, nō Aotearoa, e hoa.
@@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies Māori Christmas to you too.
This brings back so many feels of the people I was around in 2016. All the wildness and brilliance. Flatness and unawareness of so many things.
Don't know how many times I've watched this since release. I saw the short version first. Beyond LOLZ. Can't wait for the movie length version. Great vid, PAAH.
4:40 compiler small talk hahahahaha, 999 warnings 0 errors, warnings breaking stuff is skill issue
man "the office" camera shooting style is the best
"We're two Javascript frameworks away from actually launching this"
"What?!"
"I'm joking, I'm joking... It's all lost and hopeless"
my favorite lines by far
That is one prophetic start to the video.
Forgot the casual 200 WPM monkeytype while compiling a custom unix kernel.
I can't believe you revived Steve Jobs, cured his ligma, just for that one line at 2:06. Now, that's a 10x engineer for you!
Who's Steve Job
@@blazehawkins2759*Ligma balls* _explodes you with my mind_
@@blazehawkins2759 Not a 10x engineer. I'll tell you that much.
Deepfake Steve Jobs. Just be glad he did this with his powers, and didn't make a Ron Jeremy video.
Man the fact that he tries everything to dodge more engineers and project managers effing up his work is spot on. He knows that he not only needs to teach them everything, which will take time and be a pain in the ass, they will most likely ef something up that he will have to fix.
"what about product management"
This strikes panic and fear into the heart of the developer
It's all lost and hopeless 😂😂
"People can see our customer statistics publicly?!"
"Yea but it is super performant!"
LMAO dead
I don't really understand that part with the AI generated face of the guy saying the line. Is that a reference to something?
2:48 Even a 10x Engineer struggles with JS.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Yes, that's correct.
Got here faster than a 10x engineer can exit from an infinite loop
"Faster than typing C-C"
Yo?! 😅
"I wrote our own crypto, just to be safe" wild
This is sooo good, when you have worked with someone like this it hits different
What startup is this? I like the working culture
0:25 "they're using arc browser, we don't need those investors" 😂😂
Right out of the gate with "we inject our code in the customer's windows distribution"... This man worked at Crowdstrike
"I wrote our own crypto, just to be safe" LOL
"compilers always be complainin'" loooooooooool dude this one was so fucking good, well done everybody!!!
That first joke lands differently now lol
Installed custom Linux by turning the coffee machine on and off.
the irony of trying to be fast at software development is that even if you're fast, all the code has to pass through a bunch of humans before the computers take over, so you end up lagging to the speed of your slowest team member anyway. thus, i can write a thousand lines of code in a day, every few months.
"I destroyed all the code and burnt the computer" had me in tears 😂
"I already destroyed the code and burned the computer" 😂
Why is this so relatable? Because I probably heard half of those things coming out of my own mouth, when working.
"compilers always be complaining" truer words have never been spoken
so this video is a part of what got me into wanting to program, I have come back to laugh at this multiple times and each time I get another layer of the jokes as I learn more about this world. Todays laugh was all the errors listed on the TV! 😂
Also Emacs in Temple OS 😂😂😂
"Compilers always be complaining."
"Who else needs to read this?" I love it. Also it's me, whenever I wrote something "genius" and I am like "it's perfect already, why'd u need to read that anyway?"
Jack of all trades, master of all.
And often the many is better than one
Except understanding humans.
“They are using arc browser…”
I feel personally attacked 😂
"compilers always be complaining"
the code be like: Found 17 Errors but everything works.
Meh. More likely 17 advisories (in which case: small project)
“Compiler small talk”