Interview with a Senior C# Developer
Вставка
- Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
- C# programming language
Interview with a C# developer with Jackson Monaeghan - aired on © The C#.
Music by:
teknoaxe.com/L...
Programmer humor
C# humor
Programming jokes
Programming memes
C#
C# memes
c# jokes
c sharp
.net
dot net
.net core
.net 5
visual studio
azure
Microsoft
xamarin
asp.net
.net framework
.net MAUI
assembly
implicit usings
#programming
#jokes
#c#
"You don't learn C# to have fun, you learn it to make money, to use that money to spend time having fun learning C# to make more money." Now there's the *real* common language runtime of C# developers. Bravo!
Best remark
😂
TBH, I don't get it. Haven't spent a penny to keep up with c# changes and new features.
@@GrimOfDonuts I think what he meant is, with the extra money you can take more time off, which you will then use to learn c#
@@dgmullin1 Who uses unpaid time to learn changes, new features or new libraries? If company needs it, they are paying in full for it.
In a few years Kotlin will take over the world ;)
"C# isn't just used for game dev, You can do a lot of other things in Unity" haha true
Funny AND true, even Epic used Unity for their Bridge XD
I've started using unity for all my projects, because it makes it so easy to deploy on all platforms.
@@cybertpax and epic is trash so that tells you something
Had me dying lmao
@@cybertpax Quixel uses Unity for Bridge, because it was made before Epic acquisition. I doubt Epic would use Unity if it was their choice.
At my office we have a Python dev and a C# dev sitting next to each other. The passive aggressive communication is so great that I started having a bowl of popcorn on my desk.
So what kind of arguments do they get into? I assume they both despise the other's language.
Being C# and Python dev can confirm, I am constantly arguing with myself
I decided it'd be really funny if I learnt all 3 types of languages
interpreted - python
intermediate - dotnet C#
compiled - C++
trust me when i say, I hate myself more than anyone
@@ishaqahmed._there is nothing wrong learning many languages, particularly if each new language introduces you to new ways to reason about code
C# dev here, would love to bash on a Python dev just for you, and your popcorn.
"It's like they're sending your code in the crash reports." Nailed it lol.
I'm afraid if it's true.
@@mavyfaby Don't be. Its fine.. we are all parts of -Java-, eeh C# community, it's fine.
That's an award winning quote right there!
wait is that real?
@@sharkpyro93 Wouldn't be surprised in the least... just think about how much stuff you can see from users as a dev which the users don't think you can see... heck you can even go and decode all the passwords or see everyone's personal data... there are so many different logs and tables and code and blah blah blah blah that I am sure Microsoft has some kind of near-accidental way that they see their user's code and maybe in some rare cases even the data of the user's users too lol... oh wait... they literally make the operating system. lol so yeah, they probably get a SOLID amount of stuff that most devs don't think they can see. Nobody reads the terms of service anyways and you know how legal language can be... then add to that government sponsored espionage and surveilance... unless you write code on a literal paper notepad I'm sure someone somewhere somehow can see it.
No way you can go through an entire interview with a C# dev without hearing about dependency injection
His injection dependency, you mean.
ironically before .NET Core the support for DI in C# was very poor
gotta love my protected readonly IRepository _Repository
@@idk-jb7lx Yep, and now it's just perfect.
Or SOLID, or Clean Architecture, sigh.
Microsoft:
"we support ALL these platforms"
"that's deprecated. don't use it"
"that's definitely (not) not deprecated"
"that's in preview. The APIs will change everyday. use at your own risk"
"that will be supported by the community (maybe)"
"this is now open source, but we will not allow any contributions to make it cross platform"
"this UI platform is the future. Or maybe the one from the past is the future. maybe it's deprecated now. it's completely unsupported why are you still using it? Didn't we say the past was the future? Why aren't you using the new platform yet? Oh. we haven't taken it out of preview yet? Well, now it will only support the latest version of Windows"
As a senior C# developer, after 16 years, I can tell all of it is true; Just add "you get addicted to auto-completion" and you forget how you used to type words! lol
Ain't it the truth.
This too, is my 16th year. And this video had me dying... had to post it in the company slack :D
I even started to only type the first capital word on each method because I'm too lazy to type it all (like "snbnoe" for .ShouldNotBeNullOrEmpty()). Amazing what laziness can do to a man
Someone asks you why you just left "prop" in the code and committed the file with the error so the branch won't build ... "Couldn't help it, IntelliSense stopped working and I was out of coffee ..." 😆
We got something even better now: IntelliCode, the ML AI assistant that's sort of like Github Copilot's little brother, built right into Visual Studio. I'm loving it, it's the main reason I stick to VS 2022 and haven't been a JetBrains Rider snob like my colleagues. 😄
@@GameDevNerd Intellicode is available in VS Code as an extension too. I'm soo happy to be away from Visual Studio.
I had a friend who was working as a Jr C# developer in a multinational company and this is legit how he talked
@@sohn7767 N U L L A B L E ?
@@kaloan999 yea lmao
"had"
@@kaloan999 Null Able!
so they spoke in jump cuts
“I’ll be in the studio…. the visual studio” #Bars 😎🔥
Word.
@@notsojharedtroll23 oh god at the very least use notepad
@@redpepper74 damn, i was saying "word" as: "damn, this guy knows the real deal"
@@notsojharedtroll23 :P
That was my favorite. I'll be telling friends that whenever I work.
hahahahaha, "It's like they're sending your code in the crash reports..."
I legit don't know if this is a thing that happened haha
@@mat_name_whatever I know, right? :)
"It is the most loved programming language according to microsoft"😆
It was funny until the end. The bit where he compiles, only to see half a dozen cryptic errors, more build errors than code errors really… that was too close to home.
But i can't hear the word "Maven" without running screaming into a forest not to return for days. At least dotNet will work at some point during the project's existence, Java/maven projects will have " -skipSomething " flags to the very end.
@@Daijyobanai Just don't use Maven at all lmao, not Java's fault that it isn't a good build tool
@@theshermantanker7043 well gradle is better but it's also shit, what else is there?
@@yt-1337 Gradle in Android Studio is the buggiest thing I've ever used.
“Why would you let community contribute to something so perfect?” 😂😘
I mean look where community “contribution” got the web
Microsoft Ja...I MEAN, C#! HAHAHHAHAHA
Hey, it's the legend himself! Love your channel man.
holy shit its Nick fucking Chapsas
C# is Cross Platform if you only use Windows
The language has nothing to do with it. The runtime and sdk are cross platform (Windows, Linux, Mac, x86, x86_64, arm, arm64)
@@MaximilienNoal I know but getting your project to work with Mono on Linux is such a pain. Heck I have an easier time get C to work cross platform
@@BryceCorbittMono? Bro youre stuck in 2015 lol
Oh, so like 90% of users and developers
@@joshkeitz2990 Were you in a coma since 2003? 90% of devs and users today use something called a smartphone.
As a C# dev I feel like most of these things have been said in conversations at work.
The book stack in the background is a reference to a popular r/ProgrammerHumor meme; The 'C# in Depth' book has like 1/3d of the pages of 'C# in a Nutshell' 😂👌🏼
The "Why do Java devs wear glasses" bit was a cool twist on the original joke. Well done!
You know how old that one is ?
It's because they can't C# (see sharp)
@@JulianSildenLanglo lmao xDddd
@@JulianSildenLanglo lmaoo
@@JulianSildenLanglo lmao
the ending was next level 😂🔥 keep these videos coming.
"ugh this chair is not Microsoft quality" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm a senior dev at Microsoft and I approve this
Really?
That's pretty cool, what do you mainly focus on?
@@teaser6089 when I wrote the comment I was in Office365 as a dev, assuming you meant to ask about product family
@@f.r.e.e.4414 sooo… what’s up with you guys trying to pretend Windows 11 is an _upgrade_ to Windows 10?
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated Windows 365 was probably rejected by some key corporate clients, so they "upgraded " to Windows 11 as a way to sell a subscription, I mean annual extended service/support license, to the clients that refuse to use buy new hardware/a new windows license within the last 5 years.
Just curious, how many cars do you have and what are they?
Actually broke down at "C# is not just for game dev... you can do a lot of other things in Unity"
XR
There used to be TWO things called Unity: the game engine, and the .Net Framework dependency injection library.
"It's like they're sending your code in the crash reports" lol lol lol
"They even changed the switch statements why" and then he stands up was the funniest thing in this video
Can you explain?
@@stolensentiencethey added to c# 8 or 9 new switch expressions with pattern matching
@@TheRPGminer what’s that have to do with standing up?
@@stolensentience i dont understand either
idgi
I love c#. "You don't learn C# to have fun, you learn it to make money, to use that money to spend time having fun learning C# to make more money." is kinda true and I am having fun with C# now. Unlike with Javascript. I get nausea from it.
what do you mean? you don't like that you can do string concatenation, screw up the types and because of type coersion have NaN in your final string?
As a former PHP developer current C# dev I love this 🤣🤣🤣 please keep doing more of these
I clicked this video to see if it was informative and I could learn something new, I barely started and this guy has me in tears. Man this is hilarious!!
You get a like just for the first sentence. I work with Microsoft and they expect everyone on my team to know C# even if you work on front-end with Typescript and React
Typescript is also a Microsoft language written by the guy who wrote C#. So if you're writing TS then you've already been assimilated and may as well learn C# too.
@@xTheZapper Typescipt by definition is a superset of JavaScript which is a popular language for both frontend and backend. C# on the other hand is about 2 decades old and mostly only used by Microsoft for its products and services
@@InputBlackBoxOutput I'm sure that's a joke comment and that you realize language age doesn't matter as long as it's maintained and gets new features that keep it attractive, and that if mostly only Microsoft was using C# we wouldn't be in this comment section as C# would be irrelevant
@@xparadoxical69 yeah no one's ever heard of Facebook's inside language
the dozens of em, especially that weird hybrid of OCaml and JS
but everyone knows c# especially in gamedev
@@InputBlackBoxOutput
Wow so untrue its scary.
For some reason, every name he chooses it's 100% accurate to it's character. I almost died laughing with Peter Julange
"Why Java developers wear glasses? They can't see out of their eyes. Maybe they can use Console to ReadLine()" Genius.
@Edward G. Stone I believe it's a play on C++ way of printing to the console being "cout" pronouced as "c out" or the joke in this case "see out". Console.ReadLine() is C# way of reading data and the joke there is just using "Console" to "ReadLine"
@@unscriptedlogicgames the joke is twofold: 1 the traditional joke is "java devs wear glasses because they can't see sharp (c#)". 2 the twist on the joke is that getting input from stdin in java is extremely tedious, requiring either creating IIRC two objects and managing an exception or using the Scanner class. so instead of the expected punchline about "seeing sharp", you get an unexpected one about capturing stdin
The end was golden. You even had the required MS blue shirt on. Bravo!
Please keep 'em coming! These are hilarious! :D
> I love the new C# null-ability operator
That affected me more than I care to admit.
We could have a video about a jr c# dev who uses ? and ! everywhere so that VS shuts up about possible null values
So glad you kept joking about Microsoft Java, first time I saw C# I was actually confused because I thought it was Java but using really weird variable and function capitalizations.
I have never seen someone smile while saying "Azure". But then I never hang out with Microsoft shareholders.
Azure is the least shit cloud platform. I've worked with AWS, GCP and Azure and that's my lived experience.
Funny :) One thing though, C# didn't copy anonymous functions from Java, it was the other way around. Lambdas in C#: C# 3.0 (2007). Lambdas in Java: Java 8.0 (2014). Initially, C# got a lot of "inspiration", as you well put it, from Java. But then Java had to play catch-up to modernize the language. And boy did it take them some years to do so...
Java is oracle C#, which is Microsoft Java
thereby, Java is oracle Microsoft java
more like, everyone copied Lisp, which as had anonymous functions since 1958
As a .NET dev, Microsoft Java cracked me up 😂
because its nothing else than that
@@PflanzenChirurg Not necessarily. I'd miss a ton of C# features if I were to switch to Java today.
"Microsoft, Jav- I mean, C#"
but tbh the syntax feels so close like damn
@@ishaqahmed._ reminds me of the "copy my homework" meme
It's called "Java done right"
As a professional Go developer, I'd love to see a video on Go.
"As our prophet - our Lord and saviour - Rob Pike once said:"
To see when the video on Go will be live you should write some arbitrary function and put the following date in it "Mon Jan 2 15:04:05 MST 2006 -0700"
The video would be too long for youtube ;)
"It took us 10 years to release generics because it's fun to manually rewrite basic generic functions like map and filter for each slice type".
Love the language but often it's philosophy is too dogmatic about silliest things.
These are hilarious. Discovered your channel recently when you had very few subscribers. I'm glad you're blowing up. Keep up the great work!
I like that the C# one is the only one that actually gets to code
"C# is not popular? Who said it?"
Should have added "Everyone at Microsoft uses it"
6:44 That's good and all, but value types are not initialized to "zero". They're initialized to all-zero bytes, which for certain types, like a rational number, is of course *very convenient.* Say you have a numerator and a denominator, both initialized to zero, badabing badaboom and the default value is INDETERMINATE FORM. I love C#'s meh approach to nullability and default safety.
We can now override struct default constructors, which is great.
@@realtimberstalker Oh yeah, the proposal for that (I believe I've only seen it suggested, I didn't know it was implemented now) is probably why I thought of this specifically as a response to that. But default constructor requires runtime changes too, right? Not good enough to use new lang version, so for many use cases like Unity, custom default constructors will be unavailable for a while 😔
@@sodiboo Actually runtime support exists for many years. It was C#'s constraint
@@guriysamarin6204 wait what? and you mean *default constructors,* like for the `default` value and not just parameterless constructors? because those are not the same thing exactly...
@@sodiboo No, I mean explicit parameterless constructor was always supported in IL. Unfortunately, UA-cam doesn't allow links, but you can check LDM notes about this feature (the initial idea came about C# 6)
Oh fantastic. That fn with all those params checks one thing returns calling another all fully documented, I died a little thanks. Also the runtime versions so spot on. Kind of missing EF and how it always works. Great vid.
These videos have become my addiction now.
Having been a C# dev and a Java dev, these clips really got me. Absolutely hilarious.
I wonder...can you do a Rust one?
Omg if I hear another word about Rust and how fucking annoying it is I'll explode
Between the two which one do you prefer and why
Rust is too DRY
It's coming, 1st of July.
@@mastercheeks69 ill rewrite you in rust
'But you can always take off the gloves.. And then the real fun begins...' - the funniest part for me!! Thank you!
I've been waiting for this one to drop. Absolutely perfect and spot on!
That's literally me when someone ask me what programming language u recommend.
C# has everything u need*, everything u might need, everything u will never need
*Not everything
Do one about Python!
The language of children and PhDs? That was his masterpiece
I learned C# as my first language, and the only way to code for me was visual studio, like god created it and left us with that and that only
Hey you can relive that excitement of a single provider IDE today, just do some objectivec or swift.
2:13 as someone who uses c# as a hobby, I google this question at least once a month, decide not to use it in favor of more readable code, then forget it 😅
Actually the only time I've used C# is CLR functions for SQL Server. Pretty useful there because SQL Server doesn't have RegEx support.
before I became a web dev or knew what CSS is, I was learning how to make game hacks. At that point I had a bit of experience using cheat engine, so I wanted to get into the programming part too. Well, I started out with C#. Eventually realized I can become a self taught web dev but yea, my first interaction with C# was using a memory and process management package to create a game hack with a UI. Initially I tried using C# for web dev, but quickly switched to html and CSS after remembering that I had a C# developer friend who switched to it and said it's a lot more fun.
Having worked with Java, Node, Python and C# for backend I will say I like C# more than others. I find myself writing Python app now the way I would do in c# by explicitly typing the shit out of everything.
Yeah, haters gonna hate, C# is great, it's been feeding me for the last 20 years.
🤣
Haha.
This video dealt me physical damage. After trying to do anything useful in UWP I realize that UWP exists to get you to learn C/C++/MFC/COM/ATL/Win32 API.
I've learnt you mustn't follow too closely behind new technologies released by MS. Always keep your distance, wait and see where it goes.
"We always import System first"
Unless you use the new global imports ;)
I must admit that expression trees and being able to create code at runtime totally blew me away first time I discovered it.
This guy is hilarious! I've watched every video. Keep them coming!
Hilarious! I can't stop laughing! The jump cuts are great!
"just trying something in the syntax and eventually they will support it. It's like they capture your code in the crash report". 😂
"I'll be in the studio. Visual Studio" Wow, that really got me lol. I'mma steal that.
Waiting for the typescript one. Please reference the “Wordle in typescripts type system” if you do make it
C# is the land of underpaid developers just straight chilling in their corporate gigs they’ve had for over a decade.
Steady 9-5 work with corporate pay+benefits beats intermittent gigs at startups working 80hr weeks for a "maybe, someday" equity payoff. At least, that's been my experience and that of my colleagues...
@@mandisaw it definitely can be that way! Some startups are practically paying people in Monopoly money but other startups are hiring away from Big Tech exclusively offering a 2-4x salary multiple at every level & they understand that they may need to pay mostly cash to get the best talent…occasionally the founders may incorrectly believe that they can’t give out options without diluting their stock price, etc.
…I was more so referencing FAANG’s tendency to use highly optimizable (usually prematurely diving into micro-optimizations while having glaring higher level design/architecture issues) or trendy languages. …of course there’s still some Java & .NET stuff on AWS/GCP so they can support it & most of these companies don’t really put language constraints on their devs when making new projects…at least it’s not usually an organizational mandate.
"it's like they are sending your code in crash reports" perfect :D
"I'll be in the studio, the VISUAL studio" LOL!
Honestly, I really love learning about C# and all the things you can do with it.
For example, did you know you can return a reference from a function, and store it in a reference variable, so that setting that reference variable changes the one returned by the function? You can even set a variable to be a reference to an array index.
Doing ref var foo = ref arr[0]; and foo = new Foo(), will actually set arr[0] to the new foo?
I dont even think Microsoft remembers that they put this in, because List doesn't have a ref option when accessing the array item.
After thinking about it some more, i realized that they probably didnt allow a List to return a reference because adding or removing a new item from a list actually generates a new array and the reference would become invalid very quickly.
Best language that uses a garbage collector.
@@Iceman259 and Rust is the best language that doesn't. Actually literally saw this while learning Rust + Bevy for game development lol
Okay and how does this help out in regards to making something useful?
@@dq303 Its just interesting.
C# must be my favorite language, and this video is so hilarious because it is full of truth
I mean honestly... He's got enough correct I would feel confident he could handle himself in my c# codebase
The part where he's pacing and yelling "woo!" so accurate lol
Funny and genius: "Value types are initialized to 0 (zero) automatically. Not to some arbitrary number that was floating around in RAM, like in C++, or C"
Unexpected real advantage of C#: "The LTS is 3 years. Now, people can not explain to their clients that they have to modernize their software every 3 years... I can. I can."
Honestly, this is how most of my teachers talked about C#.
Because is the default language that our Uni teaches us, all of this hits CLOSE to home... or university, if you will.
Also "...these are actually fake teeth...too much syntax sugar..." 7.23🤣🤣
"i'll be in the studio, the visual studio" 😏
LUA can't be far away at the rate these videos are coming out.
Love them all!
But I actually do love all the different ways to check for null and wish there were more 😅
I like the null functionality 😂
WIsh we could not have null 😭
@@MrC0MPUT3R serious question, why don't you like it?
@@azz111full Because nullability adds an additional state your program can be in. Mo state, mo problems.
@@MrC0MPUT3R I can't think of anything worse than saving an int 0 into the database when nothing was typed into the html element 🤣
Not only the jokes, this character is so well -developed- haaa
Why is this video breaking my heart with bittersweet joy?! lmao... C# dev right here since 1.1
C# dev
Loves C#
Loves Visual Studio
Loves Microsoft
Uses MacOS
😁
Haha I laughed a lot. Thank you for doing so well researched skits it's amazing.
*python devs patiently waiting to get roasted*
Well it's okay. We probably have a module for that.
I like that python is basically open source matlab after importing 2-3 modules which is great Bc matlab sucks and it costs thousands of dollars for professional liscences
8:20 It's stuff like this that keeps me cautious of any new UI framework from Microsoft. Also you forgot to mention Blazor ;)
At least you can convert wpf apps to .net core now. Say what you will, but trusty wpf is probably still the best c# UI option out there.
"I will be in the studio,the visual studio..."🤣
you forget C# best feature, the most used feature, the most liked feature: to start the programm with the last successfull build after the build process failed because of a syntax error :D
Visual Studio has this shit and it pisses me off. Need to rebuild every time
Didn't they get rid of that prompt in the latest visual studio? I never understood why they friggin had this, almost no one wants this behaviour anyways.
@@studentt6064 you'll shut up and want the behavior that Ms tells you to want
I feel attacked
as a c# developer i have to admit, that this was a great video :)
It is one of the most popular and loved languages...according to microsoft 😂😂😂
"I'll be in the studio, the visual studio." - Senior C# Developer
"How do people even write code without Visual Studio?"
I like to compare it to doing modern roadworks and all you've got is trowel. =P
with Rider, duh.
"How do people write code without visual studio" I kinda agree in this one
As a *language* C# is by far my favorite.
My problem with it is it's ecosystem and cross platform support.
If it wasn't for it, I would definitely prefer it.
I hope it will get better because it has a huge potential.
But you can use C# on most platforms
@@purdysanchez Yeah, i hear this old stereotype about lack of crossplatform support too often. I wrote bunch of crossplatform (even GUI) apps using c# and they work perfectly fine. There are bunch of crossplatform libraries\wrappers for pretty much every complex and platform dependent scenario (SkiaSharp, Avalonia, Unity, Xamarin\MAUI, Blazor etc). Yes some platforms may be not mature enough (cough... MAUI cough...) but quality improves very fast since microsoft invests a lot of resources in the development.
C# is something that i start learning to get my first job right after university. I'm fine now. Totally. Fine.
Lol the compiler errors made me laugh harder than it should of. I love scrolling for days to see my errors in the console
"It's like they're sending your code with the crash reports...." 👀 *clears throat*
Hard to decide between all of the gems but this may be my favorite video from you, watched it 50 times already and still makes me laugh
“How do people even write code without Visual Studio”
Emacs!
Please make one of these for python. I need to understand what I look like to other people.
C# is my favourite OOPL, it has a lot of useful features and good documentation. But python is still the best "swiss army knife" general purpose tool, as it can be used for procedural programming as well.
Two in a single week. Keep 'em coming!
I wanna see Q# developers next, highly mathematical, maybe even have Krazam with you.
I died at "it was mutual stealing" :DDD
1:32 that's true though. Visual studio is one of the best programs I've ever used.