For me the only playable healer right now is Holy priest. You must do damage as a healer is keys (if you don't just please just stop playing a healer), and with holy priest sometimes i do more overall dps than a tank (my average is 200k on this week). Healing as holy feels good too.
Tome of Unstable Power will also proc off of Chi Burst and Fyrakk's Tainted Rageheart damage pulse. You only need to hit Tiger palm like every 8 sec or so to get a chance to proc it. It accounts for about 18% of my damage in +11's so far. Yeah I spent a week with it and didn't get one proc until I talked to a guildie as well. Cheers.
Ah yeah, the Hpal rework. How they let it to run rampant for almost half a season and then completely slaughtered the spec for two season straight without meaningful changes. Hpal is borderline unplayable, lowest throughput, 30% of dps less than all the other healers; mana issues, button bloat, Holy power system is broken, bad spot healing, ugh :(
I have been playing fistweaver this season after playing druid in season 1 and pally in season 2, currently at 2800 IO. Fistweaver is a really fun spec to play and you can put some serious HPS just like the casting build if you know what you doing however, the main drawback is the fact is a melee build. If you can't do damage you're stuck using your regular heals which are still great for spot healing but group wide not so much. You REALLY need to position well your faeline stomp and make sure it will not be on CD if moving out of it and I think that's why you don't see that many monks at the top M+. HPS is there and damage is pretty decent but there are some conditions to make it happen. Meanwhile druid just presses 3 buttons and 500k HPS.
Should definitely try every spec geared and in higher keys. rShaman can’t for example survive on chain heal spam in higher keys. It’s a shame that the set isn’t more interesting since you’ve basically played the same build for the entire expansion. Just watch Laren who doesn’t even touch chain heal. You’ll be out of mana after a pack or two if you’re spamming CH. MW can play with other trinkets (don’t really understand how one trinket can ruin a spec if you don’t even play the correct build) Fistweaving uses tiger palm more than enough to proc EotT and comapring the dmg to other healers MW still competes with rDruid (at +10 and up). People just see MW nerfs and jumps on rDruid instead and it just so happens that this season favor rDruid’s healing type more. Not a lot of one shots that cant be prevented by group defensives and more sustained healing required, comapred to s3 where basiaclly everyone (even dps) went fyrakk to survive mechanics.
Now I feel like my hpriest play must be wrong because I always end dungeons at like 70% mana. Am I not smiting enough? I tend to just overheal top off instead of smite sometimes because I figured holy smite wasn't that great anyway.
I found so long as I'm just pressing my Holy Words, keeping PoM on CD and spamming damage with the occasional FH, my mana is fine. As soon as I need to use FH a lot and bosses start lasting 3m+, my mana is gone.
i reroll hpally as to be my alt since ive been really a healer role in any mmos but wow really made me quit the role, and trying hpally this season didnt even helped getting back to it. had to press everything just to survive, kinda sucks since hpally feels so satisfying to play at and my kind of lore.
Seriously Holy Paladin, they gotta start pruning all the CDs button bloat and put power back in the actual spec and Holy Word spenders. Also about position, you mentioned Hunters and Warlocks but another huge culprit is Boomkins, as Preservation those are the biggest offenders and a hatred for me to heal.
The way you play holy priest sounds so wrong lol. I don't know if you play without the tier set or what but you shouldn't need to cast filler single target heals that often and most of the time it's done under surge of light or just to refresh your holy word faster. 80% of the throughput is holy words and prayer of mending
Yeap, a HW:Serenity can heal a player to full, and the only button that does this on hpal is lay on hands. Holy shock heals for 10% hp. I benched my hpal until TWW, I dont think there 's gonna be a tuning patch this season
How is resto druid overtuned? It's definitely one of the hardest healers to master and the difference between a good one and an amazing one is absolutely massive. On top of that it demands knowledge of the dungeon and it's completely opposite of doing nothing and people living. You have to preramp every major dmg event, otherwise you don't heal shit. Not to mention doing damage in the meanwhile. Sounds like a lie to support your other claims.
It is massivly overtuned this season, winning in HPS, DPS and Survival. And in Mana. Yes, it has a high skill cap but it also they are the top healer in 80% of All seasons that we had so far since Legion. And this season, the gap is massive. Remember Holy Pala got nuked to the gesund after season 2? Druid is even more far ahead atm.
@davidschutz693 You are confusing metrics here. Druid is not even close to the top for DPS and HPS it's just very ahead in regards to popularity. The main reason for that is strong ST damage+MotW+BR, but overall dmg and overall HPS are middle of the pack to lower third. If SP wasn't meta then Priest would most likely be the meta healer. Healer dps/hps are not really the things that decide the meta.
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For me the only playable healer right now is Holy priest. You must do damage as a healer is keys (if you don't just please just stop playing a healer), and with holy priest sometimes i do more overall dps than a tank (my average is 200k on this week). Healing as holy feels good too.
I think Blizz wants you to play a fistweaver build in M+. If you did that, you will brainlessly get procs on the trinket because you do damage to heal
Tome of Unstable Power will also proc off of Chi Burst and Fyrakk's Tainted Rageheart damage pulse. You only need to hit Tiger palm like every 8 sec or so to get a chance to proc it. It accounts for about 18% of my damage in +11's so far. Yeah I spent a week with it and didn't get one proc until I talked to a guildie as well. Cheers.
Ah yeah, the Hpal rework. How they let it to run rampant for almost half a season and then completely slaughtered the spec for two season straight without meaningful changes.
Hpal is borderline unplayable, lowest throughput, 30% of dps less than all the other healers; mana issues, button bloat, Holy power system is broken, bad spot healing, ugh :(
I have been playing fistweaver this season after playing druid in season 1 and pally in season 2, currently at 2800 IO. Fistweaver is a really fun spec to play and you can put some serious HPS just like the casting build if you know what you doing however, the main drawback is the fact is a melee build. If you can't do damage you're stuck using your regular heals which are still great for spot healing but group wide not so much. You REALLY need to position well your faeline stomp and make sure it will not be on CD if moving out of it and I think that's why you don't see that many monks at the top M+. HPS is there and damage is pretty decent but there are some conditions to make it happen. Meanwhile druid just presses 3 buttons and 500k HPS.
As disc in stacking haste verse to survive those big burst events. FYI Jak did 500k on crash pack as holy priest
Should definitely try every spec geared and in higher keys. rShaman can’t for example survive on chain heal spam in higher keys. It’s a shame that the set isn’t more interesting since you’ve basically played the same build for the entire expansion. Just watch Laren who doesn’t even touch chain heal. You’ll be out of mana after a pack or two if you’re spamming CH.
MW can play with other trinkets (don’t really understand how one trinket can ruin a spec if you don’t even play the correct build) Fistweaving uses tiger palm more than enough to proc EotT and comapring the dmg to other healers MW still competes with rDruid (at +10 and up).
People just see MW nerfs and jumps on rDruid instead and it just so happens that this season favor rDruid’s healing type more. Not a lot of one shots that cant be prevented by group defensives and more sustained healing required, comapred to s3 where basiaclly everyone (even dps) went fyrakk to survive mechanics.
I have a friend who's part of the trade cartel and that whole world is insane. Just knowing made me not care for professions.
Now I feel like my hpriest play must be wrong because I always end dungeons at like 70% mana. Am I not smiting enough? I tend to just overheal top off instead of smite sometimes because I figured holy smite wasn't that great anyway.
I found so long as I'm just pressing my Holy Words, keeping PoM on CD and spamming damage with the occasional FH, my mana is fine.
As soon as I need to use FH a lot and bosses start lasting 3m+, my mana is gone.
i reroll hpally as to be my alt since ive been really a healer role in any mmos but wow really made me quit the role, and trying hpally this season didnt even helped getting back to it. had to press everything just to survive, kinda sucks since hpally feels so satisfying to play at and my kind of lore.
LMAO what's happening on the background are so hilarious
Seriously Holy Paladin, they gotta start pruning all the CDs button bloat and put power back in the actual spec and Holy Word spenders. Also about position, you mentioned Hunters and Warlocks but another huge culprit is Boomkins, as Preservation those are the biggest offenders and a hatred for me to heal.
The way you play holy priest sounds so wrong lol.
I don't know if you play without the tier set or what but you shouldn't need to cast filler single target heals that often and most of the time it's done under surge of light or just to refresh your holy word faster.
80% of the throughput is holy words and prayer of mending
Yeap, a HW:Serenity can heal a player to full, and the only button that does this on hpal is lay on hands. Holy shock heals for 10% hp. I benched my hpal until TWW, I dont think there 's gonna be a tuning patch this season
How is resto druid overtuned? It's definitely one of the hardest healers to master and the difference between a good one and an amazing one is absolutely massive. On top of that it demands knowledge of the dungeon and it's completely opposite of doing nothing and people living. You have to preramp every major dmg event, otherwise you don't heal shit. Not to mention doing damage in the meanwhile. Sounds like a lie to support your other claims.
Yeah i was like wtf is he talking about. Im a new resto druid, 486 ilvl and just doing mythic 0s im stressing tryna keep everyone alive
It is massivly overtuned this season, winning in HPS, DPS and Survival. And in Mana. Yes, it has a high skill cap but it also they are the top healer in 80% of All seasons that we had so far since Legion. And this season, the gap is massive.
Remember Holy Pala got nuked to the gesund after season 2? Druid is even more far ahead atm.
Ryphe on Frostmourne is his druid. Check out the keys he did and you will know everything you need to know 🙂
@davidschutz693 You are confusing metrics here. Druid is not even close to the top for DPS and HPS it's just very ahead in regards to popularity. The main reason for that is strong ST damage+MotW+BR, but overall dmg and overall HPS are middle of the pack to lower third. If SP wasn't meta then Priest would most likely be the meta healer. Healer dps/hps are not really the things that decide the meta.