Narcissistic Parents: Horrific Ways they Break Your Boundaries

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  • Narcissistic parents engage in horrific boundary-breaking with their children. They did this when you were young and also now when you are an adult.
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    0:16 - Breaking internal & external boundaries
    1:41 - Orbiting around them
    2:44 - Boundary breaking types
    4:44 - Parentification
    7:54 - Privacy & autonomy
    12:40 - Getting punished for growing up
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  • @jerrywise
    @jerrywise  Рік тому +1

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    • @onelife7247
      @onelife7247 5 місяців тому

      Thanks for the info.
      Oftentimes, the self-loathing narcissistic mother doesn’t want anyone to know there are abusers and criminals in her family so she’ll go to great lengths to discredit police reports made by anyone brave enough to escape the dysfunctional “cult”

  • @onewomancircus
    @onewomancircus Рік тому +61

    When you're a child they expect you behave like an adult and when you're an adult they treat you as a child. It's infuriating!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +9

      Very sad. But we can break the cycle

    • @rochellecaffee1417
      @rochellecaffee1417 10 місяців тому +8

      Wow! Soooooo True…CRAZY TRUE..

    • @harmonyvaneaton4101
      @harmonyvaneaton4101 6 місяців тому +5

      THIS. Literally let toddlers almost die left and right and then try to infantalize teens and adults. Because they don't actually CARE if you live or die. They care about two things: power and image. That's all.

    • @dakoderii4221
      @dakoderii4221 5 місяців тому

      @@harmonyvaneaton4101 Also about control and sometimes just plain entertainment.

    • @nichollebraspennickx943
      @nichollebraspennickx943 5 місяців тому

      Well said!

  • @kimberlymccracken747
    @kimberlymccracken747 Рік тому +56

    It's SO weird and downright backwards 🤷‍♀️ They will gossip, blame, defame your character, insult, belittle, shame and give the silent treatment. 🚫

    • @ar7tis5227
      @ar7tis5227 Рік тому +6

      Yes! Good thing we now get to take care of ourselves. I wish there was not narcissism in families!! But we get to be loved (by us and other healthy people) and we are going to be ok.

    • @kimberlymccracken747
      @kimberlymccracken747 Рік тому +4

      @@ar7tis5227 Amen 🙏✝️❤️

    • @thewretchhesaved4649
      @thewretchhesaved4649 Рік тому +2

      Nailed it.

    • @Mixedandfine
      @Mixedandfine Рік тому +4

      Was done by my mom

    • @carolnahigian9518
      @carolnahigian9518 8 місяців тому +5

      I have a ( not fun) joke; there is just one thing WORSE then mom doesn't talk to me.. THAT IS When she Does Talk to me.

  • @amberinthemist7912
    @amberinthemist7912 Рік тому +75

    My mother and sister completely manipulated me into staying close to them even though it put my life on hold...for no reason. I was just here to hold them up because they were too weak to get mentally well.
    Mom getting Alzheimers and sis discarding me for not attending a Christmas party has been the best thing in my life.

    • @gotinogaden
      @gotinogaden Рік тому +10

      Get as far away as possible before they decide that you're their slave/caretaker for life, or at least give yourself some space in order to re-think what you're willing to do if you decide to help them anyway.

    • @amberinthemist7912
      @amberinthemist7912 Рік тому +12

      @@gotinogaden Thank you, I am. My husband, kids and I are moving 1000 miles away to another country next summer. I will not be pulled back in. Luckily my parents have money so I have no guilt about my mom's illness, she's got plenty of money to pay for good care.

    • @jlea9793
      @jlea9793 8 місяців тому +3

      My mom manipulated my brother and I to stay close to her. Mom and brother were totally codependent. I did NOT want that. I applied for college and almost didn't go because my mom threw away the letters of acceptance from the college, but they called and I answered the phone, thankfully. She wanted me to stay at home and work in the grocery store where she worked. I stayed away from her as much as I could, then cut her off.

    • @carolnahigian9518
      @carolnahigian9518 7 місяців тому +2

      WOW! Our mother & Dad scored 100% on Narcisism PLUS their resourceful Cruelty; they earned EXTRA CREDIT.

    • @nichollebraspennickx943
      @nichollebraspennickx943 5 місяців тому +1

      Enjoy your life and being yourself.. seriously… I get what you’re saying… You are worthy.. and you have a right to be - YOU!

  • @sailorgabbie
    @sailorgabbie Рік тому +21

    I'm 62 and my 82 year old mother still breaks boundaries. What's important is how I respond. Detachment is hard but vital. Straying from my lane gets me run over

  • @mday3821
    @mday3821 Рік тому +46

    My narc mother would go through my bedroom & steal, throw away and/or giveaway my things. it didn't matter if I bought it or it was given to me. My stuff was up for grabs. She even went through my purse & stole my credit card...then made me out to be the bad guy because I felt disrespected, hurt & mad. She always claimed she did nothing wrong!
    Edit: I was also made to feel responsible for my mother at the age of 9! Heavy sigh

    • @pebblebrookbooks4852
      @pebblebrookbooks4852 Рік тому +8

      And that's why I'm no contact with my toxic mom. Easier to learn how to declutter n organize my stuff without her in my life.

    • @airenmoonwolf2520
      @airenmoonwolf2520 Рік тому +3

      OMG that refrain, "I didn't do ANYTHING wrong." It haunts my dreams still after nearly 17 years of being no contact. If I "proved" my case then I was still at fault because I wasn't perfect and I was a monster for expecting her to always be perfect.

    • @mday3821
      @mday3821 Рік тому +2

      @@airenmoonwolf2520 That's because you can't win with these people. If you stick up for yourself because of something they did...your wrong...if you do nothing then they just keep doing crap to you. If you do everything they want you to do your still wrong. They always change the rules...moving to goal post. If you're still having nightmares then try journally out your feelings & thoughts...get them out of you. And your right you did nothing wrong. These people live in a false reality. I'm sorry that your still feeling the sting of it after so many yrs. I hope you find healing & peace, but I think it never truly goes away...but we still can have peace.

    • @marykoller75
      @marykoller75 Рік тому

      Wow, so helpful for me. Thank you. The recommendations for healing resources are invaluable.

    • @jlea9793
      @jlea9793 8 місяців тому

      I was responsible for my mom, dad and older brother. I became a mother to my brother and a wife to my dad when I was 10yo.

  • @ladennayoung2939
    @ladennayoung2939 7 місяців тому +5

    It is funny how your feelings can be wrong, but their feelings and opinions are always right. No matter what.

    • @bereal6590
      @bereal6590 2 місяці тому +1

      Or they can say whatever the hell they like but if we said the same things they'd go crazy!

  • @jlea9793
    @jlea9793 8 місяців тому +6

    Both parents were abuser narcissists. I purposely cut myself with razor blades (old fashioned kind) when I was four years old. Mom called a friend who bandaged me up. Mom was so nice. As soon as the friend left mom went off on me for embarrassing her. What 4yo cuts themselves with razors on purpose? The abuse was so bad and my grandma was thousands of miles away. I had nobody. I still have the scars 55 years later. I went through trauma therapy for 3 years from 2018 to 2021. I got so much better. But my therapist never acknowledged the gaslighting when i mentioned it. We didnt talk a whole lot about narcissism even when i brought it up. I'm learning a lot about my narcissistic parents by listening to these vids. TY

    • @mvbigmagic4048
      @mvbigmagic4048 25 днів тому +1

      Yes, I'm 52 years old, and I wish wish wish I'd had this information so much earlier. Before my narcissistic parents hoovered me back into their lives because of their aging and illnesses. Aging narcissists are..... indescribably WORSE. I'd gone low-contact since I graduated from high school, but kept getting hoovered back because of financial issues -- both mine and theirs. Enmeshment. My narcissistic mother PLANNED it that way. It's insidious. If I'd only known.... if you even SUSPECT your parent has narcissistic personality disorder is manipulative in any way.... DIVORCE your finances from them, if you haven't already. It's crazy-making what they can do if you cause them narcissistic injury. No contact has been survival for me.

  • @rubberbiscuit99
    @rubberbiscuit99 Рік тому +20

    Yes indeedie doo. They break your boundaries whenever it suits them, and then if you speak up to object to it, then there is "something" wrong with you. Sickening and vile behavior. Lack of accountability means a healthy relationship is not possible.

  • @theperfectautumn8781
    @theperfectautumn8781 Рік тому +6

    These types of parents despise individuation with their kids and much better prefer merging into them when it meets their needs.

    • @jackilynpyzocha662
      @jackilynpyzocha662 4 місяці тому

      At their sole convenience!

    • @jackilynpyzocha662
      @jackilynpyzocha662 4 місяці тому

      Only their needs and conveniece!

    • @bereal6590
      @bereal6590 2 місяці тому +1

      They never encourage or validate or show joy at your joys. All a ploy to keep you down and in the fold. The only time they smile at you is when you're doing what they want you to do

  • @linnaewillis8975
    @linnaewillis8975 Рік тому +7

    As an adult who grew up with narcissistic parents I am still trying to unlearn certain beliefs, values , etc.
    My mom used to go through my phone and read my text messages if I withheld who I was talking to from her. I also realize that narcissis are a walking contradiction. They'll tell you, "grow up be an adult"
    But if you call they're bluff, they'll make excuses as to why you shouldn't really do it.
    They never mean what they say, or say what they mean.

    • @vargas2046ann
      @vargas2046ann Рік тому

      spot on, “they never mean what they say or say what they mean”, I would observe it as my mum always has some hidden meaning or agenda to literally just anything she does or says

  • @serenaatallah641
    @serenaatallah641 Рік тому +36

    my goodness you put the perfect words to explain what boggled my mind for so many years. I struggled to understand why my parents were so angry at me while I was growing up and finding my own voice. I became a lot harder to control and I saw them flail as they tried to regain control. Many times they did by breaking down my psyche and causing me to lose all trust and confidence in myself and my perception of reality. I didn't realize that what was being activated in them was SHAME. Every time I fought against the dysfunctional system they felt SHAME. Wow.

    • @jamisonlamkin5576
      @jamisonlamkin5576 Рік тому +6

      I feel all of this and I so internalized that shame.

    • @serenaatallah641
      @serenaatallah641 Рік тому +6

      @@jamisonlamkin5576 Me too. They have to project that shame so that we carry it instead of them. They don't know how to regulate their feelings so they use us to do it for them.

    • @jamisonlamkin5576
      @jamisonlamkin5576 Рік тому +2

      @@serenaatallah641 Ugh, hit the nail on the head!

    • @jackilynpyzocha662
      @jackilynpyzocha662 4 місяці тому

      My dad thinks I owe him to walk all over me. He doesn't knock, he barges in. He doesn't care; he shamed me for putting up barriers. He would "interrogate, attack(mostly verbally) and shame me. He's an asshole! He still acts entitled to waste my time, at his sole convenience, that I can't complain. I put up boundaries: he hates that, he shamed me, that I didn't "trust" him(I didn't and still don't!) He doesn't like not controlling me. Too bad for him. I don't owe him me!

  • @catherinesinclair7727
    @catherinesinclair7727 Рік тому +3

    Thank you. Realising my mother was probably reading my diary for years was a horrible realisation.

  • @jeans398
    @jeans398 4 місяці тому +1

    This explains my entire childhood and adulthood. Everything. Every point. The "lecturing"- it's ONLY how my parents talk to people- and then they wonder why their siblings don't talk to them or tell them things.

  • @jamisonlamkin5576
    @jamisonlamkin5576 Рік тому +5

    I regret sharing something today with my mom, and she reminded me why I rarely share with her.

    • @rachc5496
      @rachc5496 Рік тому +1

      Yes, I have learned to withhold info from my narc father. Good or bad, I withhold.

    • @jamisonlamkin5576
      @jamisonlamkin5576 Рік тому

      @@rachc5496 It's sad that we have to be this way, but we kind have to for our survival and peace of mind.

  • @dotsyjmaher
    @dotsyjmaher Рік тому +2

    Oh God...ALL the lies I used to believe because I loved a bunch of CRAZIES I got dealt....

  • @iStorm-my5fp
    @iStorm-my5fp Рік тому +5

    Everything here is what I've been going through my whole life

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      Sending love and healing your way❤️

  • @jackilynpyzocha662
    @jackilynpyzocha662 4 місяці тому +1

    Dad expects me to put up and shut up about his abuse of me. I don't owe him anything! His attitude/behavior: his responsibility/blame, but he tried to blame me for abusing me(in many ways). He's so wrong!

  • @sadie9386
    @sadie9386 Рік тому +11

    'Break internal boundaries, saying your feelings are wrong or your identity is wrong'. Yes and yes. My mother told me I had my auntie's personality - a thief, a liar, secretive and like a man. I am none of those things. She said I was an actress and that I wasn't really crying or upset. I have spent my life not knowing who I am and disengaged from my own feelings. This has led me to terrible and frightening choices and has badly affected my own children.

    • @dotsyjmaher
      @dotsyjmaher Рік тому +1

      One of my "nicknames" was "Sarah Bernhardt".....because I had real emotions and real outrage at her savage abuse....so I was making it up WAS her excuse.

  • @nichollebraspennickx943
    @nichollebraspennickx943 5 місяців тому +2

    Oh my gosh! Epiphany! Not my job to take care of golden child… and by living my life filling the role of tending to their needs… STILL ISN’T my job… especially since it means being put down and made fun of the whole time… F&*( that noise.

  • @theperfectautumn8781
    @theperfectautumn8781 Рік тому +7

    "And don't ever question me"...this video is SO spot on. Sadly, I didn't awake to this in my crazy family and how wrong it was until around 30.

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +2

      I'm sorry you went through this, and I'm glad my videos will be helpful to your healing journey.

  • @pennyc7064
    @pennyc7064 Рік тому +27

    Thank you for sharing this Jerry! Even though this is all in the past now it's still carrying over in my daily life when I ruminate on what happened. I feel so angry for not finding out about narcissism earlier in my life. I feel that I've been robbed of years where I was made to feel guilty because I wanted to be myself and not what they wanted me to be.

  • @elisabethfung658
    @elisabethfung658 Рік тому +14

    Thank you, Jerry. My mother has severe anxiety and a persistent lack of self worth but is not self aware of this. She would highly offended at the suggestion. She is a loving person but crosses boundaries often. I often feel confused in how to relate to her and now that she is in her late 70s I worry about how best to care for her.

  • @ptlovelight2971
    @ptlovelight2971 Рік тому +10

    Omg "narcissistic interrogation": I have ALWAYS wondered why it bothers me when my sister asks what I feel to be intrusive questions about my life. "What did your psychiatrist say?" Excuse me? I'm just drinking my coffee, why are you concerned about my mental health treatment? "Why did you buy bottled water?" I don't think that's any of your concern ma'am, I didn't spend it with your money. We both grew up with narcissistic parents and I do believe she picked up some of their traits.

    • @ladennayoung2939
      @ladennayoung2939 7 місяців тому

      People with NPD are very invasive.

    • @amylink7199
      @amylink7199 4 місяці тому

      YES!!! It used to be such a paralyzing fear… Sometimes it still is! I question all the time WHY I feel so fearful of living my life. I’m working through it and I’m getting better.

  • @williamchevalier2224
    @williamchevalier2224 Рік тому +8

    "I'm just trying to help you" is the excuse my mother uses. I'm so glad to not be living in her rent house anymore.

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +3

      “I don’t appreciate you offering me help without me asking for it, moving forward if I am interested in receiving help from you I will make sure to approach you. Thank you”.
      Keep up your healing❤️

    • @jullietmburu9672
      @jullietmburu9672 Рік тому +2

      Gosh, my mom too. And this "help" contributed to me returning to a narcissistic partner because she felt she could control him... And many other severely bad decisions that have affected my life.
      I still can't get over the opportunities I turned down because she guilt tripped me into working in the family business. It's so hard to forgive myself but I'm still working on it.

  • @sherylbeamer7189
    @sherylbeamer7189 Рік тому +18

    “I don’t prefer to do that”. SILENCE. Wow. THIS is why I get so very much out of your talks Jerry. Thank you so much!🙏🏼👏🏻💕

    • @ar7tis5227
      @ar7tis5227 Рік тому +2

      Great job, Sheryl!!!! That took some courage!!!! And silence (respect) was appropriate for the " I don't prefer to do that." I love it as we get healthier and share it!!!!!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +3

      It is a beautiful and very powerful sentence❤️
      The best pause after saying it is the internal pause- saying it without becoming reactive to their possible response

  • @jamisonlamkin5576
    @jamisonlamkin5576 Рік тому +2

    "No knocking, just barging right in." Damn I feel that, sigh.

  • @SusanaXpeace2u
    @SusanaXpeace2u Рік тому +11

    True. I am not the part my parents wrote for me, so I have been written out of the play directed by my mother

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +1

      Healing is about being the part you are writing for yourself❤️

    • @amylink7199
      @amylink7199 4 місяці тому

      I wrote myself out. I’m tired of playing a role that is constantly changing.

    • @amylink7199
      @amylink7199 4 місяці тому

      I wrote myself out. I got tired of playing a role that they were constantly changing.

    • @amylink7199
      @amylink7199 4 місяці тому

      Oh my gosh! I was blamed for EVERYTHING, and I still am!
      My mother was sick. She was a fragile diabetic and had EVERYTHING that went along with that. She lost her eyesight a few years before I was born. She had a quadruple bypass when I was 12. She went into renal failure when I was 18 and died from diabetes when I was 24… and I’m just hitting the high points.
      Add a borderline narcissist to the mix and it was great!
      My mother was amazing. Not perfect. But, AMAZING. She did everything in her power to ensure that I had as normal of a childhood as possible. She didn’t drive. That was it. But… My father… TOTALLY different story.
      I know that there has to be some enmeshment issues with my mom and I, but it wasn’t because of her illness. My father was so mentally abusive that we were just trying to survive him! I was definitely his scapegoat, my mother was sometimes.
      My mom wasn’t supposed to have kids, but she wanted them. My older sister died at 2 weeks old. They tried again and got me. I think that he blames me for her death at 55. Everything that went wrong with her… He told me it was my fault… Just for being a kid… I was always too emotional… I cried too much (usually because he was yelling)… I laughed too loud… You name it… And yes, I got in trouble for falling down…
      I’m no contact and it’s taken lots of therapy, but I am [mostly] healed!

  • @rochellecaffee1417
    @rochellecaffee1417 10 місяців тому +2

    Boundary-breaking is not “loving” but very “DISRESPECTFUL”.

    • @jackilynpyzocha662
      @jackilynpyzocha662 4 місяці тому

      My narc dad, in front of my friend, told me that I had to give him the key to my place, that he could walk in at any time, but I couldn't have the key to his house and do the same. I had to clear it ahead of time with him, honor his boundaries. He would not have honored me. Neither he, nor I, have the key to each other's place He demands I respect him, but puts me down because I am female. That's wrong on all levels. He tries to shame me into letting him stomp all over me and thank him for it; that it shows I am humble, it's humilating, not a form of humbleness. Just control. I have nil to no contact with him, for my own protection. I am 60, I don't live with him, yet, he makes nitpicky comments(finding fault with me). He thinks he is Jesus, because he has a beard, and can judge me. He has a beard, but he acts the opposite way, totally controlling and men when I don't jump when he barks. His attitude problem/behavior, not mine. Only his way, no one else's opinions matter to him. He doesn't like to be stood up to/called out by. Too freaking bad for him. I don't kow-tow to him! He hates it. Good, I win!

  • @sheilabest3652
    @sheilabest3652 2 місяці тому

    words can’t express how your videos reveal the unhealthy, dysfunctional relationships that began in childhood into today for me.

  • @kimberlymccracken747
    @kimberlymccracken747 Рік тому +54

    I FINALLY found my adult voice with my Mom - at 59 years old! Thanks Jerry for your assistance. Terri Cole has been a great teacher on this subject as well. 👍

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +5

      You are so welcome, keep up the good work❤️

    • @SusanaXpeace2u
      @SusanaXpeace2u Рік тому +10

      Were you ever let back in. I stood up to my mum at 50. Two years later they are the injured party, saints for dealing with me, they just never speak to me now. It was a case of submit to our narrative or you are dead to us.

    • @C7774u
      @C7774u Рік тому +10

      @@SusanaXpeace2u Same at 50 it was the first time I stood up and said "No!' Four years of complete silent treatment . The first year I tried writing her and I even took the blame for her abuse. After the first year of her cruel silent treatment I said to myself , I'm done. It's true if you don't do what they say you become an idiot in their eyes and then you are dead to them. She can't even face me and she knows my nature is gentle and forgiving. Even as adults they have to show who is large and in charge of your life. They are very sick selfish individuals.

    • @kimberlymccracken747
      @kimberlymccracken747 Рік тому

      @@SusanaXpeace2u She basically ostracized me and made sure everyone else did, too. I don't want "back in" now. Should have been out forty years ago. What a shit show! And, yes, it's poor Brenda - she's given her all to her screwed up daughter. (Which is entirely untrue. I paid her phone bill, took poor (even dangerous) treatment from her poor choices of men, took her on vacations, helped her get jobs (though she hated to work), etc...Father is the same, but he pilfered off my brother. Decades of verbal and emotional abuse and neglect behind the scenes.

    • @ar7tis5227
      @ar7tis5227 Рік тому +7

      @@SusanaXpeace2u But Susan you did take care of yourself!!!! Bummer they couldn't deal with the real you, but really it's their problem. I grieve that my dad will always be a narcissist.... I hate it. But because I differentiate, I am free.

  • @FFlores79
    @FFlores79 Рік тому +6

    When my husband asked to marry me, my parents wrote on a post note several suggested demands..including:
    We cannot move away
    My son has to attend catholic school when older
    My husband can not exceed a certain speed limit with my son in the car on the interstate.
    They had him sign it

  • @rosel9785
    @rosel9785 Рік тому +9

    Another remarkable video, Jerry. Thank you.
    My Dad passed in January. My enabled brother lives with my Mom. It's surprising he has taken care of my parents (now my Mom) this long. I am thankful for that. But the shaming by my brother and my Mom never ends. My Mom's has intensified. She sounds more and more like my brother- who believes and says outrageous things about me and my sister. My sister and I are not speaking. My Mom wonders why the family has fallen apart.
    Well, we had 3 narcissists in the family. My brother is the dominant one (an alcoholic who seems to have mental illness). Dad was self-absorbed. My Mom is the suffering, helpless narcissist. My parents main goal in life seems to have been to "take care" of my brother. My Dad said, "he's the least likely to be able to take care of himself." When I confronted my Mom about their enabling. She said, "we help those in need. That's what families do."
    I parented my Mom - who had chronic pain my whole life. I am so tired of my family of origin. I don't go to my Mom's house. Wow, the shaming they try to use to change that... The amount of effort I have had to put into getting well is significant...
    Thank goodness your videos were available. I am so thankful.

  • @dree8300
    @dree8300 Рік тому +8

    That's exactly why I'm not longer speaking to my dad...among many many other reasons, but that's the one that broke the relationship up. His audacity was almost unbelievable..it felt like he was the villain of a bad B movie.

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +3

      I’m sorry this is your story Audree, I wish you healing and the ability to move past this❤️

    • @dree8300
      @dree8300 Рік тому

      @@jerrywise Thank you very much. Your videos are really helping, I feel validated and they give tangible things to work on. The first step towards recovery is acknowledging there is a problem and naming it. Thank you for everything you do. 💕

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +1

      @@dree8300 you are so welcome

  • @dotsyjmaher
    @dotsyjmaher Рік тому +1

    SO SAD what we went through....and THEN TOLD WE WERE NOT ACTING RIGHT...

  • @shawnmurray9964
    @shawnmurray9964 Рік тому +3

    Thank you!!! I just had a ridiculous conversation about why I’m not watching tv & how tragic that is, lol

  • @ced7617
    @ced7617 Рік тому +8

    I'd like to give everyone their "World's Best Parentified Child" trophy 🏆! 😂😂

    • @ar7tis5227
      @ar7tis5227 Рік тому +1

      🤣 THat is such a great one!!!!!! Yes we were good parents...... way to early.....very sick...... Thanks for the humor!!!!!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +2

      Humor in healing is important😊❤️

  • @brittanyrenee5858
    @brittanyrenee5858 7 місяців тому

    I am glad I found you. I have been through so much. From jobs, to abort my child to my second child being put up for adoption without my consent. Therapists left and right. Got no where.

  • @JohnDoe-yr1xc
    @JohnDoe-yr1xc Рік тому +6

    Man is on point on everything he says.

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      I’m glad it resonated John. Welcome to the family? I hope you find my other videos helpful as well

  • @evelynlust2747
    @evelynlust2747 5 місяців тому +1

    It seems that our oldest child suffers from thinking/feeling she needed to parent. "You know that Aunt Agnes thinks you are wrong."

  • @starlingswallow
    @starlingswallow Рік тому +3

    I set a boundary with my parents almost 2 years ago: do not bring up work/finances/FT jobs/insurance, etc. This was after my father gave us a speech and lecture over the phone because he thought (?) we were going to ask to borrow money. My mother set that one up. We weren't. He insulted me on this call. My mom said NOTHING. Old news with that.
    when I sent this email to my father, setting the boundary, he emailed me back an article on the differences between FT jobs and FT jobs _with benefits._ 🤦🏻‍♀️ I went no contact for a few months with my dad, which ended after a 3 hour call where I shared a ton. They validated and apologized. Ok, cool.
    This last August they came for my surprise Birthday party. I was so glad they came. Was, being the key word!
    The next morning my father used God as an excuse to blow past my boundary *again* and treated me and my husband like children. (I'm 41 & he's 53!!!) I was on cloud 9 from my birthday and my dad came into my house and treated me like a child, guilting and shaming me and hubby about our jobs! THEN they questioned our church attendance! THEN my mom calls me a few days later and said she sees red flags in my marriage. 🤦🏻‍♀️
    So I was with a horrific abuser for 14 years and they didn't say crap....now I'm with the love of my life who is so wonderful and healthy and my mom says she "is worried he's taking advantage of me." 😳🤯🤯🤯😂😂😂😂
    Oh, boy. If she wants to talk about red flags, I'd love to share with her allllllll the red flags I see in their marriage.

  • @mistwalker11
    @mistwalker11 3 місяці тому

    I liked the concept of "knocking" in adult relationships, I'll have to think about that. I think I sometimes unknowingly overstep my boundaries with others. I also like the phrase that you proposed "I prefer not to". I have autistic traits and having mini-scripts like that for the "no" situations is super helpful. Thanks for your work!

  • @MarthaMcCrum
    @MarthaMcCrum Рік тому +11

    I love this title so much and can’t wait for your talk Jerry👍🔥

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +3

      I really enjoyed making this video. knowing how narcissistic parents engage in breaking our boundaries, can allow us to put a stop that boundary breaking as well as help us learn what is not normal to do our children.
      Thank you Martha for being part of the community and for your support!

    • @MarthaMcCrum
      @MarthaMcCrum Рік тому

      And it was great as usual!🔥💛

  • @Inspiriments888
    @Inspiriments888 Рік тому +3

    Truth is weightless

  • @joshua255860
    @joshua255860 Рік тому +11

    hello jerry, this was outstanding! You hit a home run out of the park. Everyone in the world should hear this. God Bless. Eileen

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      Thank you Eilieen, I’m glad my work is helping you and others

    • @joshua255860
      @joshua255860 Рік тому

      @@jerrywise You do outstanding work. You are very helpful to those who have to struggle with these fragmented people. I want to thank you. You get specific and give real life help. You have helped me greatly. eileen

    • @joshua255860
      @joshua255860 Рік тому

      @@jerrywise ❤ One can tell how hard you have worked at this. I appreciate you! eileen

  • @tinsfinet7064
    @tinsfinet7064 Рік тому +1

    I’m 53, a former therapist and just now realized that I was a parentified child by my mom. She moved me into the role she needed at the time (Parent, rescuer, best friend and listener). As I am working through all of this, I keep asking the question “is she toxic or a covert narcissist “? She has and continues to try to impose herself in every aspect of my life and breaks every boundary mentioned in the video. How can I know if she is just codependent herself and immature and has developed toxic patterns, or if she is a covert narcissist. I feel like knowing the “why” behind her behavior would make it easier for me to establish and protect my boundaries, go no contact etc..

  • @makanahokuokalanikukailani3270

    They will never admit it!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +1

      You are correct. As I say it, the FEEL-THINK is way too strong for many families to come out of denial, or be self-reflective and self-responsible. For them it is not about logic, it is all about feelings, fear, defensiveness, blaming, etc. Which they don't want to see, or resolve. Thank you for watching.

  • @KingMark33
    @KingMark33 4 місяці тому

    I told my narc mom that I don’t like it when she asks where I’m going or where am I. I also told her it bothers me when she asks if I’ve eaten or tells me I need to eat…moving forward, she would mention these things even more because she knew I didn’t like them. When I reiterated my boundaries with her, she got really upset then played victim. What most surprises me about narcissistic parents, is that they will purposely do things to push their child’s buttons or upset their child. What kind of evil world do you live in that make you want to intentionally want to harm others, especially your own children. I don’t bother her at all, I only show love and kindness, but for some reason, she wants me to hurt or suffer. I just don’t understand how someone could be that evil

  • @GreengirlEl
    @GreengirlEl Рік тому +5

    I can relate. My Narc mom got upset when I did not invite her to a mini high school reunion with an old classmate of mine 🤦🏾‍♀️ she was adamant that I should have invited her. But I stood my ground.

  • @mosim9691
    @mosim9691 Рік тому +12

    Excellent video! I can relate to this from having a dad with narcissistic tendencies as wel as a codependent mother - I became the parent for my mother. I had to take care of my younger siblings while growing up. Both parents violated my boundaries. My dad has died. My Mom now expects me to spend holidays with her & I don't really want to. I stayed with her for 4-months last year during COVID-19 fixing up her home, cleaning her home, taking her to doctors, eye surgery, setting up in-home care, etc. Putting things in place my dad should have done over the years. Even visited her this year for a weekend. It's a 3-hour flight plus 1 and 1/2 hour drive to see her. I'm so tired! Booked my flight & reserved the rental car to see her for this Thanksgiving - think I may cancel to stay home & relax. Feeling kinda guilty if I don't go see her because children are suppose to give their widowed parent what they need.

    • @nicolab2075
      @nicolab2075 Рік тому

      Have you decided yet? 😊
      Maybe if you go for Thanksgiving you can spend Christmas at home xx

  • @miriamlabadie2090
    @miriamlabadie2090 Рік тому +3

    Thank you once again Jerry. Brian and I have both dealt with these issues and the guilt, shame and anger were often overwhelming and all we were doing was becoming functioning adults. Thanks to your work, we’re free from all of that nasty business. Muchas Gracias!!! ❤

  • @sirrantsalott
    @sirrantsalott Рік тому +2

    My father passed recently and this estate issue is getting worse. The circumstances surrounding this is what broke the camel’s back. Now I’m looking through my life and can see how some of the toxic behaviour is mirrored in others and in me. May God bless you and the people you help heal. Take care, Jerry. Thanks for my new lease on life.

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +1

      Im sorry for your lost, and thank you for your support, I'm glad that my videos was helpful to you. Take care.

  • @ladennayoung2939
    @ladennayoung2939 7 місяців тому

    When they ask me certain questions, I just say that I am not at liberty to say. I feel as though the Holy Spirit has been advising me to move in silence in this season and I'm doing just that. No matter what. I don't care how upset they get or whatever the case maybe. Smh.

  • @suzannesmith5339
    @suzannesmith5339 Рік тому +1

    9:25 “ perpetual state of childhood”, for their inability to entertain themselves. Holiday requirements too! 12:45 was important also.

  • @bionicwoman9884
    @bionicwoman9884 Місяць тому

    the spiritual boundary Ive gone through it with my mother

  • @nickimorris8600
    @nickimorris8600 Рік тому +2

    As a survivor of a narcissistic father you are always DEAD ON. Keep up the good fight. God bless you Jerry Wise. 💙🤗

  • @kathleendrake6500
    @kathleendrake6500 Рік тому +3

    I did not know what to do with my guilt. I thought it was coming from me. Best friend recovered in 12 step program and thought so. She just tells me to screw guilt. Both parent are narcissistic and rejected me emotionally, physically, and spiritually. It was coming from my parents and trying to people please their wishes and desires and not my own self or lack of identity. Yes getting both of my narcissistic parents out of me, my mind, body, and spirit would help. Yes never trying to get my parents to change ever worked. They don't care. They think I am the problem. They never Love, Care, and are Supportive.
    My alcoholic father just judges, criticizes, self will run riot, gaslights, and deflects any blame away from himself. He is the alcoholic, adulterer (he remarried to a step mother and I have a 25 year old sister I am age 51), and workaholic. My dad blames me for treating my mom badly. I am supposed to protect my moms health. I do not consider my moms health problems.
    My mom blames me for the family problems. I am never good enough, I waste her time, I share feelings, I ask questions and question the family system, and I try to solve family problems. She ignores me, never wants to talk to me, and does not want to discuss any of the families decisions to me. They never want to tell me anything because I will question in it. When I had to move from my mom's parents family farm, my mom lied to me and said I could stay as long as I want. The new owners would give me option to rent. This was not true.

  • @jackilynpyzocha662
    @jackilynpyzocha662 4 місяці тому

    Dad (narc) taught, in fact, told me "you don't have the right to say no" He's a control freak! I am expected, by him, to put up, don't complain, don't tell anyone else, and don't stand up to me." A very oppressive attitude/behavior towards me. Overbearing, too! He does this to shut me down, totally. So I won't stand up to him and call him out. He cuts me down before I open my mouth, so he can run roughshod all over me, and acts entitled to do that, because he is male, my father. That I have to jump when he barks. Wrong!

    • @jackilynpyzocha662
      @jackilynpyzocha662 4 місяці тому

      I feel like a "Stepford" adult child! I am not obedient! He doesn't like that, too bad for him!

  • @kimberlymccracken747
    @kimberlymccracken747 Рік тому +2

    Right! And, definitely not physical boundaries!! 🙏💐🙏💐🙏

  • @nichollebraspennickx943
    @nichollebraspennickx943 5 місяців тому

    Thank you ! So clear…. I have to learn all about boundaries… as a scapegoat who was parentified …

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  5 місяців тому

      You are so welcome

  • @justsewit_tk5477
    @justsewit_tk5477 Рік тому +2

    Oh my goodness this is such a good video! I knew my mother was breaking my boundaries but this video has actually outlined so many more boundaries than I had realised. My late father in law said to me a month after my husband and I were married, why I wasn't pregnant yet! We have WAY too many narcissistic people in our family.

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      I'm sorry you have to deal with lots of narcissistic in your family, and I’m glad the video was helpful to you, thank you for your support!

  • @lilafeldman8630
    @lilafeldman8630 Рік тому +1

    What you said is so true about boundaries, freedom to fall down, try and fail and make mistakes. I didn't have that

  • @InfiniteMindset99
    @InfiniteMindset99 Рік тому +1

    Whoa- a majority of these boundary breakers. Love your channel Jerry!

  • @mysticalqueengoddess
    @mysticalqueengoddess Рік тому

    Excellent video

  • @csabaradnai2885
    @csabaradnai2885 Рік тому +1

    Thank You Jerry! I wish I had had your lesson before my marc mother killed my soul. My life could have gone differently. But do your job for those who are still on the battlefield. Because this is it.

  • @cc967
    @cc967 Рік тому

    My narcissistic mother would visit us and steal things from my house. In addition to my things, she took my children’s birthday invitations from friends and notes my kids wrote to each other. She kept these things for years and then wrapped them up as a gift to them. Just sick.

  • @sawdustadikt979
    @sawdustadikt979 7 місяців тому

    This is such a good one for me. Thank you. It reminds me how much of these boundary breaks narcs use in conversation, even when you first meet them, just see how I will or will not respond I think. I mean as far as I can tell both my parents are narcs on two different spectrums and I’m pretty sure my whole family system runs on these dynamics. But when I separated from my whole family, 20 something years ago, the boundary breaks ramped up to new psychotic levels. I have a theory that they were going for a whole new trauma bond, but all I saw was that I made the right choice.

  • @iStorm-my5fp
    @iStorm-my5fp Рік тому +4

    Thank you for giving me words to describe what I've been feeling

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      You are welcome, thanks for watching the video

  • @jackilynpyzocha662
    @jackilynpyzocha662 4 місяці тому

    They also say expect you to apologize to them for accusing them! Dad expects me to put up and shut up. I have blocked his number on my phone. I am so done with his narcissistic attitude/bad behavior. His flying monkey/enabler girlfriends comment was "He's always been this way and won't change." I refuse to jump when he barks, at his convenient. I've had it with his overbearing attitude! I am 60, not living with him. He doesn't like it when I complain, and tell me that "you misinterpreted what I said", and blames me for his abusing me. I have not asked for his opinion, yet he expects me to take his comments/behavior at face value, with no complaints. Surreal!

  • @Goldenheart2911
    @Goldenheart2911 Рік тому +4

    Excellent video Jerry 🫶 This video really highlights the importance of removing the toxicity from the home as soon as possible to give our kids the best chance of success in leading a healthier life. Teaching our children how to set boundaries, grey rock, find their voice and say no with the narc parent are all crucial tools needed for them to be able to take their power back and stay safe. The healing path is so humbling. We all want the best for our kids and we all make mistakes. The difference though is that as recovering co-dependents we make a conscious effort everyday to learn, grow and heal; whereas the narc thinks they never do anything wrong. I'm proud of my progress Jerry and your videos really help me to recognize the areas where I have really grown and the ones where I still need to keep working. 💛

  • @pebblebrookbooks4852
    @pebblebrookbooks4852 Рік тому +2

    Great topic Jerry! And those are horrific! 😱 Also reminds me that others may suffer Different horrors from my own. Not all home invasions are the same.☺️

  • @kellycushing2904
    @kellycushing2904 Рік тому

    Thank you for another great video!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      You are very welcome Kelly!

  • @cwoermann2687
    @cwoermann2687 Рік тому

    Thank you Jerry😁

  • @sug4rb0mb
    @sug4rb0mb Рік тому

    Jerry, you are truly a blessing. I have found such comfort and understanding for myself from your videos.
    This year I learned the word 'enmeshment' and since then it has been a roller-coaster of emotions, connections, and realizations. The true meaning and reasons behind different events have been coming to light daily.
    I am still trying to process and understand everything. My biggest struggle is with the self-gaslighting about accepting the fact that my mother is a narcissist. (Even typing it out like that is difficult for me).
    I just wanted to share that I learn something new every time I watch your videos. This video really opened my eyes to how much I needed to release these 'system emotions' and heal my inner child by being the understanding parent I never had. Thank you 🖤

  • @amyjamison-casas1851
    @amyjamison-casas1851 Рік тому

    Another wonderful video!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      I’m glad you enjoyed it Amy!

  • @Kaohukreations
    @Kaohukreations Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much

  • @adrianadelassereed
    @adrianadelassereed Рік тому +2

    So very true!!! Very clear analysis. Thank you, very much!!!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      You are so welcome Adriana, thank you for watching!

  • @mozee_
    @mozee_ Рік тому +2

    Excellent session! Absolutely nailed how insidious and treacherous boundary breaking can be (and is!). Thanks so much!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      You're so welcome Malik. I am glad that you enjoyed the video

  • @amandaball353
    @amandaball353 Рік тому +1

    Excellent, excellent video!! TY!!👏🏻👍🏻

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +1

      You are very very welcome!

  • @mariannepettersen3371
    @mariannepettersen3371 Рік тому

    Wow, another great video! I just discovered you today and have learnt so much useful! Thanks for these videos!

  • @Rob9mm
    @Rob9mm Рік тому +2

    One of your best Jerry!!! Gold!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      Thank you Robert, I’m glad it resonated

  • @justinael
    @justinael Рік тому

    Awesome reminders, I'm going to share with a friend who has recently discovered a narcissist in her family. Thank you for this video!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      You are so welcome, thank you for sharing the video❤️

  • @csstudio3648
    @csstudio3648 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for all of your wisdom! You have helped me to navigate challenging family dynamics over the last couple of years. 💙

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +1

      You are very welcome ❤️

  • @marekm9647
    @marekm9647 6 місяців тому

    Thank you again.

  • @lauramoss30
    @lauramoss30 Рік тому

    Just found your channel. This is EXACTLY what I needed. I only figured out my mother's covert narcissism a couple of years ago at age 51, after leaving a high demand religion. Plus, I am the oldest and only daughter (6 younger brothers), AAANNNNNDDD I was the GC. I didn't see the real NM until I stopped agreeing with her beliefs (my brothers kept trying to tell me!) and starting saying no. I went NC last year for my mental health. Looking forward to watching more of your videos!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +1

      Welcome to the family Laycie❤️

  • @baileytabbott
    @baileytabbott Рік тому +1

    I've been watching your videos for about 5 years, Jerry. You saved my life. :) This one in particular is very good and simply packed with all the right info. Thank you for your work!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      You are very welcome, I’m glad this video was helpful to you. Thank you for you supporting me for the past 5 years, I really appreciate it!

  • @debbiekillewald8384
    @debbiekillewald8384 Рік тому +1

    Thanks. I'm older and need help with this.

  • @rturney6376
    @rturney6376 Рік тому +1

    Thank you 🙏 Jerry!!
    Here’s to 100k subs!!!! ❤❤❤Love 😊

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      You are very welcome! I hope my message continues reaching new audience, this is my way to make the world a better place. Thank you for you support!

  • @catherinewholey3630
    @catherinewholey3630 Рік тому +3

    Really validating video, thank you. I'm still learning about boundaries 3 years into my healing so this has been very educational.

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +1

      I’m glad the video was validating.
      You might find my other videos on boundaries helpful
      ua-cam.com/play/PLoYQTW09i3W2hJBDh27eYY7e0xiFnDbtQ.html

  • @sage9836
    @sage9836 Рік тому +3

    Jerry! Your strong, clear voice is such a comfort!

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +1

      Thank you sage, it’s great to see you here

  • @luckycharm1212
    @luckycharm1212 Рік тому

    I love these new style videos. They're easy to follow and looks attractive too.

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for your feedback. I’m glad you noticed 😊

  • @Iam_anHeir
    @Iam_anHeir Рік тому

    Very helpful video...for years I couldn't figure things out. But with a strong desire to get healthy myself, I found help in understanding my FOO dynamics. Jerry you do a excellent job in breaking down the process of what children endure at the hands of Narcissiatic parents. Thank you.

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      You are very welcome Janet, I'm glad you found my video helpful

  • @marialunsford1312
    @marialunsford1312 Рік тому

    You speak the truth sir 👍

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      I’m glad the video was helpful to you

  • @Crystalquartz964
    @Crystalquartz964 Рік тому

    My narcissistic father died 2 months ago, age 95 and I'm surprised how I am grieving him ... grieving what never was as much as anything. I'm almost 65 now

  • @never2late921
    @never2late921 Рік тому

    Thank you for your contents! They encouraged me to set myself free from my narcissistic family 🍀🌱😃
    Being fully aware of my inexistant freedom as a child deepens my relief.

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      You are very welcome, I’m glad the video was helpful!

  • @berlinetta____2680
    @berlinetta____2680 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @adriancampbell630
    @adriancampbell630 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Gonna watch again!❤

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому +1

      I’m glad it was helpful, thanks for watching!

    • @adriancampbell630
      @adriancampbell630 Рік тому

      @@jerrywise You’re welcome Jerry! 😊

  • @rachc5496
    @rachc5496 Рік тому

    This is amazing support. I currently do gray rock, low contact, becoming unhelpful, withholding feelings towards my narc father. It has helped. These are very good tips.

    • @jerrywise
      @jerrywise  Рік тому

      I’m glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @blessed4149
    @blessed4149 Рік тому +2

    EXCELLENT!!! I am sending this to my whole family!!! Nail on the head!

  • @LemonHelmmet
    @LemonHelmmet 2 місяці тому

    "i did not sleep for 22 months because of you." because she breastfed me
    " its like a devil took over you once you turned 12"
    " why are you crying? stop that!" ( when my father died- they were divorced)
    ' you took "the reins" out of my hands when you hit puberty" i had to repeat I AM NOT A HORSE too many times
    reading my diary- so i stopped writing
    "i never married again because of you"
    "i never went out with friends because of you" ( she has zero friends)