Words cannot express how incredible a mid/side EQ really is. The amount of difference it's made to my tracks after just 4 minutes of this video is mind blowing. You're doing gods work ♥
@@robinskull I've listened to your stuff, I have never heard something that horrible. My ears threw up, It's the most lamest thing I've heard in my whole life. I have one advice for you: GIVE UP
I'm an amateur producer from Thailand. You are absolutely the one I learn from the most among all the YT channels teaching music producing techniques. Thanks for contributing for amateurs (or even the pros) like us! Your explanations are so clear and the tips you've picked are extremely crucial for me, and by the way, everything about your videos are just great!! God Bless You :D
I applied what you did at the start of this video and the clarity my mic is louder and more prestige great in depth info thank you for posting I learned so much from this 🙏
@@inthemix I got into 3d recently, got to say I'd love to compromise there. Creating everything is fun too I wanna do an eq visualizer made of different things
@@inthemix Michael, the advice last in the video by giving a subtle boost on the midrange in side EQ, would you do that together with a boost on the high register (for creating width) or would you just apply one of them at the time?
this makes my master sounds so much better after 5 mins into this video. Such a masterpiece and powerful information, thank you for sharing your knowledge
Its fun iv bn watchn mid/side vidz for 3months now ...now i understand ...iv found out that in music u must not worry your self too much if u dnt understand something ...it simply mean that u not on that level yet ...keep on perfecting what u know ...few weekx or months u suddenly understand ...bt dnt dnt ever stop to be curios and for and get and insight of what to come ...thank u Sir for this info now im confindent to use mid side processing...thanx
If there are people that work in FL that cant afford a mid/side eq, in Patcher you can split the signal with the Stereo seperator (preset mid to side) and you can rout that to two instances of parametic eq 2. That way you have a mid eq and a sidr eq.
I was working & it dawned on me i quite didn't understand this concept at all as i thought i did... & i was praying & crossing my fingers you did a tutorial on this... You are my favorite producer sensei.... The producer community owe you biig time !!🤝🏾🖤🖤🥳🥳🥳🤗🖤🖤...
I think this is the best tip to get kicks and bass to the front. Before I used M/S eq, my kicks and basses would always be washed out and never cut through. Now it's just hilariously easy to get them in the font and you don't need to do anything else.
You bring an ease and accessibility to your topics which give me some confidence to give them a go. I had to nod my head when you were talking about removing or adding this through L/R eq would remove too much, or not enough. I've been there. The focusing of the bass, also, really helpful. Thank you.
I loved this video! You just honed in on demystifying the whole Mid/Side thing and although I recently figured all this out, SEEING it being used by you, gave me a confirmation that I was doing it the right way and now I can release any doubts I had. Verification of a technique brings great clarity. Bless Sings. 🙏🤗
We truly appreciate your tutorials. We've learned from streaky as well as Full Sail and between your channel and Busy Works beats we've got some amazing results here.
It makes it easier to listen to. More comfortable on your ears. Less fatiguing. Yet the higher frequency elements seemed to remain just as wide. It almost can separate them and make them sound like two different sounds occurring.
Probably the most helpful tool in my arsenal. So many things I work with sound great in stereo, but basically cancels itself out in mono. And sometimes, just one side has weird harsh resonance that I need to dampen without making the whole track sound lofi lol
how can you use mid/side EQ to get around a problem where your sound sounds great in stereo but cancels itself out in mono? Im totally new to mid/side EQ, phase cancellation etc and ive realised that when i put my track in mono certain wide sounds Ive used sound terrible - quiet and ruined, probably due to phase cancellation? but i dont know how to fix that
Hearing the "side" signal on solo and thinking it sounds very spatial, is pure auditive effect, as you are actually hearing a MONO signal, just with the phase inverted in one speaker.
Since I watched your mastering tutorial videos I started using Ozone Mid/Side EQs and now my songs sound much cleaner and better, I can't wait to use this new tips in my next song. I owe you a % of my royalties :P
Midside eq is working very nicely with electric guitars in genres like Metal or rock. When guitars are panned left/ right to create a wall of guitars; doing a midside eq then can help to avoid some muddy frequencies of those panned guitars without affecting the instruments in the middle.
I saw your vid about"polarity" and how it was important to the song. While i didn't believe it was so relevant, i tested a kick drum, cloned it, reversed the polarity and played them both at once at c5.... You know what happened? Unbelievable, but there was no sound coming out of the speaker cuz they both were conflicting with each other. Your video on polarity was so eye opening. I do appreciate the valuable info.
I’m happy to hear it. It’s one of those topics where you think “there’s no way it’s that important?” and then you test it out! It’s amazing how much of a difference it can make in the right situation :)
As always amazing work , please keep making the videos for some mixing process tiny problem which a beginner/intermediate level producer won't know like resonance removal,mid-side EQ , stereo enhancement and many things which an audio engineer / mixing engineer hear and fix ...cause the mixing is 80-90% work while mastering at last enhances those issues which end up sounding bad so please sir I request you to make videos on such topics !!!
around 9min, the real crux is the subtlety of cutting/boosting in little increments. I like you said for sake of the video, you did more than usual to augment. I discover that most of the time I dont need mid/side, because the flatness or stereo field is better sounding to my ears. Then again, Im still a novice at mixing.
Have you watched any of my “Mastering Start To Finish” videos? I have then all linked on my channel home page and I show my full process in several genres.
excellent mixing info as always! i had trouble understanding mid side eq concepts for a while but your simplified explanations and demonstrations in a mix make it so easy for me to comprehend. also as a suggestion, maybe you could do a video on how to tune drums/percussion instruments using fl? unless youve already done that, in that case, my bad
Cool tutorial. One other idea on the second example is to use a de-esser to reduce brightness. It's not just for vocals! The fabfilter de-esser also has mid/side.
I don't know why it's so hard, but I'm still having trouble understanding mid/side. But I'm closer with this video, thanks. Also, I think we may use the same headphones. I use closed back for recording vocals, but for mixing I use a set of open-back Beyer Dynamic phones. Mine are the DT900 Pro. Thanks for the vid!🎸🎤
A bonus is all the extra headroom for a really powerful bass without getting that awful crackling effect when pushing it. This was sure a game changer for me. Even if i mostly produce Phonk, with hard clipped/distorted 808’s it still helps cleaning up for the harmonics to push thru the mix but still being really dirty
Fl has its own mid/side eq. Its basically two parametriq eq2 next to eachother. One represents mid and the other side. Open up patcher in the effects and choose presets. From there you will find Mid side eq under filters. Dont know why its not mentioned in the video, but it probably has its reasons.
How about a simple breakdown of *when to use* linear/natural/dynamic phase / zero latency etc? Dan Worrall has some fantastic videos on the topic but I'm sure I'm in the majority in being uncertain and experiencing counter-intuitive results during different scenarios (mixing/mastering, and also when using fabfilter in long midi-instrument fx/shaping chains)
"Hi. And welcome back." I find it funny that Dan starts every video with that line. In one of his earlier videos, he expressed a profound confusion at actually having gained more subs after posting his previous video-- since it was more or less him venting about improper techniques being shared by UA-camrs with huge channels. He seemed to be having an existential dilemma in whether he wanted to take on the responsibility of becoming a defacto teacher/mentor/role model for others.. personally, I like how jaded and blunt he is when talking about some of the silly practices being used in contemporary productions and the passive-aggressive arguments he gets in with his colleagues. Also the fact that he is so vehemently against doing a face-reveal only adds to the quirkiness of his personality
I slept waay too long on M/S-EQ! Awesome tutorial I think 4 some PPl it would be nice to have another option besides Ozon/FabFilter (I use Ozone myself)
I believe Ableton has a good M/S EQ built in if I remember correctly. Most of us are waiting for the FL eq to add it, you can currently only Monitor M/S!
@@pispalantimbaland To do mid/side eq on Nova, you’d have to duplicate your track. There should be a tab at the top of nova that says stereo. Click it, and choose Sum (Mid), go to the other track and click Diff (side) Mid/Side is sometimes written as Sum/Diff but they mean the same thing
Always good instructions and great explanations. Thanks for sharing your findings. I just wanted to share my appreciation, and I think I talk for everybody when I say, great video content and keep it up. I'm always looking forward to seeing a new instructional video of you, although I'm a self-taught music producer. After a while of self-exploring, I have learned a bunch on your tutorials as well. Thanks again!
I probably won't be tempted to use an m/s EQ that often because it's really a very delicate intervention. Nevertheless very informative and good to hear what effect can be achieved, especially for mastering specialists.
Words cannot express how incredible a mid/side EQ really is. The amount of difference it's made to my tracks after just 4 minutes of this video is mind blowing. You're doing gods work ♥
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@@robinskull I've listened to your stuff, I have never heard something that horrible. My ears threw up, It's the most lamest thing I've heard in my whole life. I have one advice for you: GIVE UP
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been here last year and did not understand anything but am here today understanding these things now after thanks, you have help me alot🙏
I am the same way! haha glad we are both improving:)
one never leaves your tutorials/Videos in doubt nor confusion ,They're brilliant explanations .Thank you
I'm an amateur producer from Thailand. You are absolutely the one I learn from the most among all the YT channels teaching music producing techniques. Thanks for contributing for amateurs (or even the pros) like us! Your explanations are so clear and the tips you've picked are extremely crucial for me, and by the way, everything about your videos are just great!! God Bless You :D
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I applied what you did at the start of this video and the clarity my mic is louder and more prestige great in depth info thank you for posting I learned so much from this 🙏
This dude right here is a well known unknown. Most definitely appreciate your time of examples and clear delivery.
much cleaner after. great demonstration.
Big thanks as always opening my mind, so interesting how we're doing so much on 2d huds for 3d sound scapes
Underrated comment there! I reckon that there will be big steps forward in spatial representations of sound in DAWs very soon!
@@inthemix I got into 3d recently, got to say I'd love to compromise there. Creating everything is fun too I wanna do an eq visualizer made of different things
@@inthemix can you do video how to mixing Bass Synth
@@inthemix Michael, the advice last in the video by giving a subtle boost on the midrange in side EQ, would you do that together with a boost on the high register (for creating width) or would you just apply one of them at the time?
m/s eq is awesome! I usually use it to make room for vocal
I have heard/learnt about Mid/sideEQ but have ignored for a while. Thanks for an honest and informative session tackling this essential tool.
this makes my master sounds so much better after 5 mins into this video. Such a masterpiece and powerful information, thank you for sharing your knowledge
Its fun iv bn watchn mid/side vidz for 3months now ...now i understand ...iv found out that in music u must not worry your self too much if u dnt understand something ...it simply mean that u not on that level yet ...keep on perfecting what u know ...few weekx or months u suddenly understand ...bt dnt dnt ever stop to be curios and for and get and insight of what to come ...thank u Sir for this info now im confindent to use mid side processing...thanx
Man this is like... You're a mind reader, I was just battling with mud in EQ and this is great!!!!!!!!
Was just watching a video where someone said about mid/side and I came straight here to see if you had a video. Always such perfect explanations!
I can't believe all this time, I was looking for the answer to making my music sound better and It has been right infront of me all along. DOPE!!
If there are people that work in FL that cant afford a mid/side eq, in Patcher you can split the signal with the Stereo seperator (preset mid to side) and you can rout that to two instances of parametic eq 2. That way you have a mid eq and a sidr eq.
I will definitely apply the last technique, boosting the side at mid spectrum.
I was working & it dawned on me i quite didn't understand this concept at all as i thought i did... & i was praying & crossing my fingers you did a tutorial on this... You are my favorite producer sensei.... The producer community owe you biig time !!🤝🏾🖤🖤🥳🥳🥳🤗🖤🖤...
Man everytime I think I'm getting pretty good at mixing you always show me how little I actually know.
I think this is the best tip to get kicks and bass to the front. Before I used M/S eq, my kicks and basses would always be washed out and never cut through. Now it's just hilariously easy to get them in the font and you don't need to do anything else.
You are the best producer who explains things 👍
You bring an ease and accessibility to your topics which give me some confidence to give them a go. I had to nod my head when you were talking about removing or adding this through L/R eq would remove too much, or not enough. I've been there. The focusing of the bass, also, really helpful. Thank you.
I loved this video! You just honed in on demystifying the whole Mid/Side thing and although I recently figured all this out, SEEING it being used by you, gave me a confirmation that I was doing it the right way and now I can release any doubts I had. Verification of a technique brings great clarity. Bless Sings. 🙏🤗
Wow what a good vid, just got pro-q and ive learned more in this video than ive had it the past week
excellent video! I appreciate making the adjustments much bigger than usual so we can actually hear the result of it through youtube! thanks.
Finally, needed a tutorial on this
this guy's voice is ASMR, so calming
Dude, simplifying is the best thing in life. Thank you so much!
This was the most easy-to-understand tutorial of midside eq. I got it now.
We truly appreciate your tutorials. We've learned from streaky as well as Full Sail and between your channel and Busy Works beats we've got some amazing results here.
You're a natural tutor, thanks for these.
It makes it easier to listen to. More comfortable on your ears. Less fatiguing.
Yet the higher frequency elements seemed to remain just as wide. It almost can separate them and make them sound like two different sounds occurring.
8:20
that’s amazing
huge improvement
Probably the most helpful tool in my arsenal. So many things I work with sound great in stereo, but basically cancels itself out in mono. And sometimes, just one side has weird harsh resonance that I need to dampen without making the whole track sound lofi lol
how can you use mid/side EQ to get around a problem where your sound sounds great in stereo but cancels itself out in mono? Im totally new to mid/side EQ, phase cancellation etc and ive realised that when i put my track in mono certain wide sounds Ive used sound terrible - quiet and ruined, probably due to phase cancellation? but i dont know how to fix that
What an incredible piece of advice and powerful mastering tool ... thank you very much for sharing knowledge on this
Been using multi band compressor to create space for the vocals. Not still sitting. This is crazy🔥
Superb -
I am currently recording vocals and guitar in stereo and will give this a try to explore possibilities.
Many thanks
Hearing the "side" signal on solo and thinking it sounds very spatial, is pure auditive effect, as you are actually hearing a MONO signal, just with the phase inverted in one speaker.
Since I watched your mastering tutorial videos I started using Ozone Mid/Side EQs and now my songs sound much cleaner and better, I can't wait to use this new tips in my next song. I owe you a % of my royalties :P
5:55 is a very good point, indeed. Surprisingly many songs have even lower bass energy in the side channels.
Can cause phasing issues leaving
Your vids are soo educating!!! I use mid/side EQ during mastering but using it like this...I never would have thought!!
Midside eq is working very nicely with electric guitars in genres like Metal or rock. When guitars are panned left/ right to create a wall of guitars; doing a midside eq then can help to avoid some muddy frequencies of those panned guitars without affecting the instruments in the middle.
Thanks for the tips! Had no clue of mid/ side EQ
I FINALLY UNDERSTAND M/S AFTER TRYING 10 TIMES. THANK YOU
I love your concise descriptions and gentle instructive approach. Excellent
Mid Side EQ is very magical technigue. I like it
This would've saved my first 2 years of mixing.. lol Michael is doing God's work...
Amazing Introduction! I loved how the sound became a lot more focused after this process, could be used in many creative ways. Thank you
Very well-scripted presentation. Good job.
I saw your vid about"polarity" and how it was important to the song. While i didn't believe it was so relevant, i tested a kick drum, cloned it, reversed the polarity and played them both at once at c5.... You know what happened? Unbelievable, but there was no sound coming out of the speaker cuz they both were conflicting with each other. Your video on polarity was so eye opening. I do appreciate the valuable info.
I’m happy to hear it. It’s one of those topics where you think “there’s no way it’s that important?” and then you test it out! It’s amazing how much of a difference it can make in the right situation :)
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I finally understand how to think about stereo eq, thanks so much!
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As always amazing work , please keep making the videos for some mixing process tiny problem which a beginner/intermediate level producer won't know like resonance removal,mid-side EQ , stereo enhancement and many things which an audio engineer / mixing engineer hear and fix ...cause the mixing is 80-90% work while mastering at last enhances those issues which end up sounding bad so please sir I request you to make videos on such topics !!!
around 9min, the real crux is the subtlety of cutting/boosting in little increments. I like you said for sake of the video, you did more than usual to augment. I discover that most of the time I dont need mid/side, because the flatness or stereo field is better sounding to my ears. Then again, Im still a novice at mixing.
Would love to see an in depth video of your mastering process from start to finish
Have you watched any of my “Mastering Start To Finish” videos? I have then all linked on my channel home page and I show my full process in several genres.
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Very informative! Thanks for sharing brother 💓
excellent mixing info as always! i had trouble understanding mid side eq concepts for a while but your simplified explanations and demonstrations in a mix make it so easy for me to comprehend. also as a suggestion, maybe you could do a video on how to tune drums/percussion instruments using fl? unless youve already done that, in that case, my bad
YOU DONT NEED TO TUNE DRUMS lol
@@ZERPENT-OF-GOD you CAN though 😜
This is the best video from you by far and I know you are good at explaining
Hello! Your tutorials have been big benefit to me! Thank you for making them! 😄
Great video!You could also be using Eventide-Split Eq so you can cut only the transients of the guitar on the mid channel.
This is so perfect just when I needed to know more bout this then the perfect teacher come through as always , thanks so much 🙏🙏
Cool tutorial. One other idea on the second example is to use a de-esser to reduce brightness. It's not just for vocals! The fabfilter de-esser also has mid/side.
You are the best instructor yet!
I don't know why it's so hard, but I'm still having trouble understanding mid/side. But I'm closer with this video, thanks. Also, I think we may use the same headphones. I use closed back for recording vocals, but for mixing I use a set of open-back Beyer Dynamic phones. Mine are the DT900 Pro. Thanks for the vid!🎸🎤
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A bonus is all the extra headroom for a really powerful bass without getting that awful crackling effect when pushing it.
This was sure a game changer for me. Even if i mostly produce Phonk, with hard clipped/distorted 808’s it still helps cleaning up for the harmonics to push thru the mix but still being really dirty
Michael i love these tutorials! keep up. you are the best.❤️
Good one man. Really add value into my mixing!
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Fl has its own mid/side eq. Its basically two parametriq eq2 next to eachother. One represents mid and the other side.
Open up patcher in the effects and choose presets. From there you will find Mid side eq under filters. Dont know why its not mentioned in the video, but it probably has its reasons.
I was looking at the comments to see if fl had this stock. I'll have to check that out. Thanks!
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This was incredibly helpful, such a simple explanation that was still articulate! Thank you.
Nice video !
Thx ive never used mir side EQ but this will be a nice start on learning to use it.
And thx for the mixing Contest as well
Thank you so much for sharing such good examples...
Wow it’s really nice thank u. I would love to see more on side/mid eq.
I just wish u described the eq better I use stock logic eq
wonderful teacher
How about a simple breakdown of *when to use* linear/natural/dynamic phase / zero latency etc?
Dan Worrall has some fantastic videos on the topic but I'm sure I'm in the majority in being uncertain and experiencing counter-intuitive results during different scenarios (mixing/mastering, and also when using fabfilter in long midi-instrument fx/shaping chains)
"Hi. And welcome back." I find it funny that Dan starts every video with that line. In one of his earlier videos, he expressed a profound confusion at actually having gained more subs after posting his previous video-- since it was more or less him venting about improper techniques being shared by UA-camrs with huge channels.
He seemed to be having an existential dilemma in whether he wanted to take on the responsibility of becoming a defacto teacher/mentor/role model for others.. personally, I like how jaded and blunt he is when talking about some of the silly practices being used in contemporary productions and the passive-aggressive arguments he gets in with his colleagues. Also the fact that he is so vehemently against doing a face-reveal only adds to the quirkiness of his personality
@@nickloss2377Just discoverd his channel. Damn, this is guy is awesome. Really.
Fun fact. Fl studio has a mid side eq patcher preset. And if you really want to, you can turn it into mid side ott.
Thanks for the tip!
I slept waay too long on M/S-EQ! Awesome tutorial I think 4 some PPl it would be nice to have another option besides Ozon/FabFilter (I use Ozone myself)
I believe Ableton has a good M/S EQ built in if I remember correctly. Most of us are waiting for the FL eq to add it, you can currently only Monitor M/S!
@@inthemix Lets Hope 4 the best with FL21 somewhat around the corner
Yea Ableton EQ8 has m/s. Tdr Nova has dual mono and some others, can't see no m/s in the free version
@@pispalantimbaland To do mid/side eq on Nova, you’d have to duplicate your track. There should be a tab at the top of nova that says stereo. Click it, and choose Sum (Mid), go to the other track and click Diff (side)
Mid/Side is sometimes written as Sum/Diff but they mean the same thing
there's also a mid/side option on logic's stock EQs, including the linear EQs!
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Always good instructions and great explanations. Thanks for sharing your findings. I just wanted to share my appreciation, and I think I talk for everybody when I say, great video content and keep it up. I'm always looking forward to seeing a new instructional video of you, although I'm a self-taught music producer. After a while of self-exploring, I have learned a bunch on your tutorials as well. Thanks again!
Thanks a lot !!!
really helpful and very well explained.
Man I needed this🔥🔥
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I probably won't be tempted to use an m/s EQ that often because it's really a very delicate intervention. Nevertheless very informative and good to hear what effect can be achieved, especially for mastering specialists.
You can do mid side processing by FL's default "Patcher"
great video
thx
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Extremely informative channel, your awesome. Thank you so much.