P0031 P0037 P0051 P0057- Multiple Bad ECM's or Bad Diag?

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  • Опубліковано 14 сер 2023
  • It's not what you think or have seen, it's what you can prove. But after the proof, the problem returns....three times. Makes you start to question your diagnostic capabilities.
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  • @SAAutoRepair
    @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому +34

    Just a quick follow up. The forth ECM (used) worked as it should. Vehicle is confirmed fixed

    • @HouseCallAutoRepair
      @HouseCallAutoRepair 11 місяців тому +2

      Excellent! That kind of frustration deserves cold one!

    • @TheDivergentDrummer
      @TheDivergentDrummer 11 місяців тому

      @@HouseCallAutoRepair Likely the current sense resistor on the feedback circuit in the pcm. I'd love to crack a known bad one to test.

    • @kpfalconi
      @kpfalconi 11 місяців тому +2

      Wow that would have seriously made me doubt myself. The statistic probability of 3 bad ECMs is next to nothing. Play the lotto my friend.

    • @globalcommerce7654
      @globalcommerce7654 11 місяців тому

      Excellent diag brother, I do them on my channel as well, definitely would have anyone second guessing 👍🏾

    • @rock962000
      @rock962000 10 місяців тому

      Fuck that's nuts. What a nightmare

  • @BrianMann216
    @BrianMann216 11 місяців тому +4

    Getting more difficult to get decent "rebuilt" parts. That will make you think that your loosing your mind, and all the time to proof it. Thanks for sharing! Great seeing you!

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому

      Great to see you and the family sir. Looking forward to the next time

  • @for2utube
    @for2utube 11 місяців тому +6

    Already read your update. Was going to suggest weak power to the ECU; shoot your thermal camera at power in to look for excess heat, caused by high resistance. Could also test with a voltmeter looking for a high voltage drop.

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому

      Powers and grounds were checked. I would think they would cause more issues then I had if it were. But always like the thought process. Thank you

  • @djosbun
    @djosbun 11 місяців тому +2

    Superb job as always, brother!

  • @jesusescamilla1864
    @jesusescamilla1864 11 місяців тому +1

    Great job thank you for sharing your skills

  • @scientist100
    @scientist100 11 місяців тому +2

    Usually a bad ground will throw those codes as well, but testing is key, good job.

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому

      Yes sir. First test I did was load the supply and ground. Thank you

  • @bocolumbine2931
    @bocolumbine2931 11 місяців тому +1

    Sorry, that shakes you up. Gets you questioning yourself. You did good 👍 Hoping to see you at Super Saturday 😉

  • @petar443
    @petar443 11 місяців тому +2

    You should try the lottery man. No no this story scares me. I'm glad the 4TH ECU worked out.

  • @frankmcdonough3351
    @frankmcdonough3351 11 місяців тому

    Excellent diag.

  • @Jpetovic
    @Jpetovic 11 місяців тому +1

    Great job thanks

  • @frugalprepper
    @frugalprepper 11 місяців тому +2

    I have seen this before with Chrysler PCM's. Especially on Caravans with bad drivers for the coil packs. It is frustrating. I try to get my Chrysler PCMs from the junk yard from a wrecked car if possible.

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому

      Used does seem to work better. Hope you are well

  • @RR-bt5xv
    @RR-bt5xv 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for the update

  • @lakesautomotivediagnostics6509
    @lakesautomotivediagnostics6509 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice🎉

  • @philh9238
    @philh9238 11 місяців тому +1

    I had the exact issue with the o2 heaters on an older explorer. 3 remans and one used took care of it. Scanner said 0 amps heater on but amp clamped the heaters had 4 amps total

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому

      O2 codes and Ford go together like PB&J.

  • @DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
    @DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 10 місяців тому +1

    I’ve had a similar situation before.

  • @oldsilkhat7893
    @oldsilkhat7893 11 місяців тому +2

    The only other thing I would check is pin tension on the pcm connector. If your back probing maybe you're making a good connection but once you remove your pins you lose connection. I don't know just thinking about what's left.

    • @Grunter123
      @Grunter123 11 місяців тому

      🤣

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому +2

      I agree on checking pin tension, but just 4 pins that happen to be the O2 heaters? And all at the same time? But I love the thought process

  • @detailedautodiagnostics
    @detailedautodiagnostics 9 місяців тому

    👍👍👍

  • @pontiacsrule8761
    @pontiacsrule8761 11 місяців тому +1

    The worst is when you get a new part, & it's bad again. Even worst is if you are a DIY person & you keep going back to Oreillys saying the part is bad. They will tell you something else is wrong, not the PCM. It's very frustratring. I know from experience with a MAF sensor issue I was having.

  • @DuaneDonaldson
    @DuaneDonaldson 9 місяців тому

    I like your channel, and I like to comment as I watch, please stop guessing at the codes, the scanner is right there in front of you and the key could have already been on when you started to record brother as this is where you were going already. Thanks for the case study RECAP, much appreciated.

  • @krugtech
    @krugtech 11 місяців тому +1

    What a nightmare, I've been there before. Between us, I'd sure those defective PCM will never be rebult again, if ya know what I mean. I wonder if the codes would have changed if you left the sensor disconnected?

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому

      No codes if disconnected. It was one of my tests. Good thinking

  • @kevincampbell8298
    @kevincampbell8298 11 місяців тому +1

    What are the odds on that!

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому +1

      Pretty good in my case. Go figure

  • @GregoryBirulkin
    @GregoryBirulkin 11 місяців тому +1

    Buy yourself a good dinner tonight, you deserve it!!!
    Now you know why Keith left. 😮

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому

      Nah. Keith left for better living. NY is a commi state

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics
    @advancedleveldiagnostics 11 місяців тому +2

    Wow, Crazy! You should get the 4th PCM from a diff supplier! Did you get it fixed yet?

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому +1

      Replacement one and two came from different places. Last one was from a junk yard and worked fine

    • @advancedleveldiagnostics
      @advancedleveldiagnostics 11 місяців тому

      @@SAAutoRepair Crazy!

  • @daviddasilva4897
    @daviddasilva4897 11 місяців тому +1

    On those its oem or ntk sensors,add the same problem and it turn out to be the sensors

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому

      Yup. The shop started with 4 OE sensors

  • @kitsogroupholdings
    @kitsogroupholdings 5 місяців тому

    I am having exactly the same 4 error codes on a Chrysler 300c, 5,7 HEMI 2006 model. I have tried to test the ground wiring but not sure if I am doing the right thing. Please assist on how to test ground.

  • @Scurops
    @Scurops 11 місяців тому +1

    Where were you getting the PCMs from? I recently had a ridiculous issue with Flagship One just like this...

    • @bohawkins5258
      @bohawkins5258 11 місяців тому

      I got 3 ECMs from FS1 and they were all junk. All 3 set the 0037 code. I sent them back and they gave me store credit, which I will never use.

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому +2

      I won't even show up to a shop that purchased from FS1. Too many headaches

  • @Poulsen71
    @Poulsen71 11 місяців тому +1

    This is why we technicians hate engineers 😮‍💨

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому

      Engineers? Manufacturer of components? Assembler? I think it's a break down of team work all around

  • @jjscalifornia5086
    @jjscalifornia5086 11 місяців тому +1

    I won’t ask you to divulge who sold the garage the bad ECM’s, but who sold the good one?

  • @control226
    @control226 3 місяці тому

    I am in the exactly same situation!! Did you solve this remplacing the PCM?

  • @gsppuffer
    @gsppuffer 11 місяців тому +1

    Turo the same car remove ecm and install in the rented car to check it

    • @SAAutoRepair
      @SAAutoRepair  11 місяців тому

      Sneaky. I like it. But nobody is going to rent an 06 Charger

  • @wolfgangkrausser3220
    @wolfgangkrausser3220 11 місяців тому +1

    where can i buy that probe kit thanks

  • @Usmanthemecano
    @Usmanthemecano 10 місяців тому +1

    Allcomputerressources crap!!!
    Flagship one crap!!!

  • @IronRiviera
    @IronRiviera 10 місяців тому

    Excellent diag.