Xperia 1 II - GCam vs PhotoPro
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- A small comparison between GCam and Photo Pro on the Sony Xperia 1 II. You can achieve similar results on the Xperia 5 II and also Xperia 1 III & 5 III
Get GCam for Xperia 1 II & 5 II + 1 III & 5 III here: app.box.com/s/...
What do you think about the GCam mod for the Xperias ?
Is it up to the game or only usable for night time photos?
How about video mode? Stabilization is worse than Photo Pro (Basic)?
I just installed on 5ii . I haven't take a single shot yet . Quick install. I think eventually each company will sell there 'color science ' as an app . Gcam , sonycam, samcam. And also I think taking Raw pics are best . In a few years processing software will be better . It's better to archive the Data for later use. Also natural pictures look better when you look back at them 20 years from now . Sorry for long writing .
I hope someone will do this sort of thing on X1 III.
When a phone on the hand of right person, great result and honest review!
thanks for sharing,
finally, i found gcam compatible for my sony (all camera photo/video works)
I think you should've tried this with a Pixel. That Photo pro app on the Sony was tailor made for their hardware, whereas GCam would be tailor made for Pixel hardware.
This was intended to see what kind of quality you can get out of the Sony Xperia with the two apps.
Conclusion: If you want a Google camera, get a Pixel. These were not very impressive, neither of them.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought of this. Camera is the only knock against the 1mIII.
Interesting. But i always use stock camera. I think the results from Xperia not that bad compared to other brands.
The only reason I need a Gcam is for night time shots.
Does the Gcam not work on Xperia 5?
Great comparison! This is what most reviewers should see. They say the camera on Sony phones sucks because the app doesn't do what they want? Sigh
Here's a solution from our fellow UA-camr too, just install a 3rd party camera app like Gcam.
man if you really see other phones were gcam is actually optimized the difference is notable but for this gcam i cant say the same. I think it's not optimized for sony properly from the libs to everything it doesn't look like a gcam image.
Thanks for interesting video and the work you put down for it 😊 Disappointing daytime photos/HDR. I have now downloaded it. Will try it on low light conditions. A question: Did you download a Config to this GCam?
No I did not. If you find something useful tell me. I lile to update my video on new findings
@@lltechview OK, thanks. I will.
@@lltechview Hello again. I have tried the Gcam some more. It's very unstable. Took some photos in low light, and the photos turn out much brighter - which is great. But the photos are very noisy. Especially the ultra wide which is worst. The telephoto is also noisy when cropping in. The main lens not so bad, but Sony better.
I found out how to get HDR toggle in the shortcut you pull down from top of the screen. Go to settings, then advanced, then you turn on hdr+-control. Now you can choose between HDR+ and HDR Enhanced in the shortcut curtain - you know where settings, ratio, and WB are.
I see. Thank you. Enabling HDR+ controls makes the option disappear however. I only have HDR Enhanced available in the advanced menu and in the shortcut curtain there is nothing.
After resetting the settings I figured out I only should enable hdr+ control to see the options in the shortcut curtain.
use hdr+ e ,that will give insane results even in daylight even settings are optimum
Good job bro.. It come cross my mind what its look like to have gcam in 1ii vs native camera app.. Then your video appear, upload only 4 minutes ago.
Coincident? I think not
Hehe. Yeah if I could also predict the next lottery numbers like that. Would be awesome :P
@@lltechview 🤣
You can actually install All the Sony apps on our Sony Xperia 1ii, 5ii, 1iii and 5iii, photography pro, cinema pro and videography pro.. The phone will still remain average compaired to a pixel, lol
Thanks a lot for this comparison! Just a question, on the low light comparison at 17:01 and 17:31 I assume that the photo pro images were not done with full manual control, right? I saw your "Sony Photo Pro - Nighttime Tips (Xperia 1 II/5 II)" video where you showed you were able to take a picture of a game controller despite having no actual light and were able to do it because of the manual control in Xperia's photo pro. So I assume that the images at 17:01 and 17:31 would've been at least equal or if not better than the gcam if Xperia's full manual control was used?
Yeah the low light / nighttime photos can look better. I was comparing the automatic night time kicking in on the Sony with the GCam Night Sight mode.
For the long exposure that I showed in my nighttime tips you need a tripod however.(most of the times)
Very interesting, thank you very much! I can't get enough Sony Xperia 1/5 II/III videos :) I have the Xperia XZ Premium since four years and I'll upgrade to the 1 III, I think I'll use the Photo Pro manual mode for low light images with low ISO and slow shutterspeed (:
Yeah that can work with a tripod and non moving subjects
Yes, slow shutter speed works for low light. Most of the time i using slow shutter speed on low light condition but need a steady hand or the picture will blur.
Xperia 1ii owner
@@FaizGTstudio how bout gaming experience? PUBG, aov, mobile legends?
@@meeeong7482 I'm not a PUBG player but for ML you can set Ultra 60fps. For Genshin Impact gaming test on this device you can check my channel. playing Genshin on this device with cooling fan on I can play Highest 60fps all the time. but i not recommend to play with 60fps
@@FaizGTstudio woagh thanks for the reply, someone sell this phone for 583$, is it too expensive or maybe fair price?
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Does G cam works better on that 8mp selfie? If it works better to give a great portrait selfie and 4K recording, the G cam will be a great deal for XPERIA 1 and 5 series...
Selfies don't work at all. It shows something but cannot capture a shot
You cant do 4K video out of 8MP camera. 4K is 8,29MP.
@@lltechview one year late but if you go to mod settings and change the viewfinder from jpeg to lvl3 yuv you will be able to take selfies ( portrait selfie still crashes for whatever reason)
@@bluespy377 Thank you!!!
Thank you for the material.
Did you use the Gcam Enhanced HDR+ turned on? In my experience, the HDR is much more reliable when turned on.
Also in the Gcam options, Google AWB is more accurate when off I think.
My main gripe with the 5II is the way it processes grass and foliage. I think the noise removal is to agresive and you get smeared details.
HDR+ I did not use but there is a setting for this to work you need to turn on (see other comments) Google AWB was used
This is the only video on youtube who has actually shown some footage against stock camera and you didn't even turned in hdr plus mode,wow man what was even the point of this video
To be completely honest when I get a gcam mod plus config I expect it to work ootb and not going into advanced settings somewhere to activate even more there. But yeah you learn from your mistakes. Will see if I can make another video about gcam mod on Xperia
Brother, please share the gcam link, thanks
see the description.
Please do a selfie camera review of X1II ' G cam. I want to know does it gives good quality selfies with better portrait, and selfie video recording in 4K. Then that 8mp is not a problem for me. Google Pixel have 8mp selfies, so may be in selfie it gives good results.
Like I said selfies don't work at all. Portrait mode crashes GCam.
@@lltechview, Sir, try another G cam which can give good selfies with portrait on X1ii. Selfie quality is one of the major complaints with XPERIAs these days.
Thanks for replying 😄🙏🏻
That is the best GCam I found so far. If you have a working selfie cam one tell me.
Where did you find this specific version for the gcam in the link? Any other gcam mods working? Thanks
I got a hint from someone that linked to a russian speaking telegram group and said it was the best gcam version
@@lltechview does night sight works normally? And which version is this? Gcam 6, 7 or 8? I had the Xperia 5 and am now thinking of buying 5ii or 5iii. Thanks
Oh, and does night sight works for front camera? I know that Sony's front camera only allows for 1 second exposure for front camera. Thanks again
You should have activated hdr+ on gcam
My cheap Redmi 9T with Gcam can capture better HDR images than this
Ich denke g cam ist mehr der automode ersatz als den pro mode. überlege mir das 5 II gebraucht zu holen. wie ist es bei dem handy mit hitze?
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@@lltechview glaube aktuell auch die beste Wahl, wenn man nicht die beste Kamera will. Speicher Erweiterung und Klinke ist zu selten geworden zumindest mit IP 68 Wasser Schutz. Als ps4 Spieler bietet es mir auch noch Möglichkeiten unterwegs auf dem Handy mit ps4 controller zu zocken. Custom Roms falls es irgendwann keine updates mehr gibt sind auch dafür vorhanden. Und ausdauernder Akku in der Größe auch nicht selbstverständlich. Samsung "hust"
Did you manually control any of the settings in Photo Pro, or were these all taken as point-and-shoots?
Taken as point and shoots otherwise it would be unfair
What does it matter anyway literally every manuel/pro mode on any phone sucks ass. They doesnt control anything just exposure,iso,shutter speed and other useless garbage. Computational photography FTW for phones with small sensors
you can always shoot with nightsight when you use gcam
Tried it. It's still laggy on my Xperia 1 ii (58.1.A.5.222A). Really hoping for it to be fixed by devs.
Actually, I am okay with the stock basic mode from the Xperia 1 iii Photo Pro apk. What I am wishing from some devs to work on is a Night mode camera. I know Photo pro can do it on manual mode, just a point and shoot night mode is okay. Just hoping someone would make one
This gcam isn't suitable for xperia. Try gcam mod with suitable config.
That is the best I found so far. I am open for testing others
What i do wanted to ask is when you take nightshots with the gcam is it still quick? or is it processing like the nightmode with normale camera app? it takes a second with normal app right. and i mean you do get the pro photo app settings right for night shots. like good iso and shutter speed is maybe even quicker or not?
It is also taking a few seconds for processing with the GCam.
@@lltechview so you would advice the gcam only for night shots?
This version yes
dude, pls do xperia 1 vs xperia 1 ii camera compare..
Ok. Will add it on my video todo list
Does astro work? I tried with no luck
Nope
Any updates for newer version
Actually I did not try that
@@lltechview yeah the one you've shared crashes.
@@Brepian I know. It has some issues sometimes. Maybe you can find something on xdadevelopers
Thanks for saying the obvious - he's wrong, because there are app options for that. Also thanks for just taking the pictures, he was too lazy to research and take himself.
Dude Gcam is literally a mod! It's basically stealing google's processing. You are using stolen or backdoor techniques on a 1200usd phone?!!
Why would a 1200usd phone need something like that?! It's not even native!
Other phones like S21U has both auto, pro photo, pro video baked in!
@@DeepteshLovesTECH Saf said it didn't exist. The point is it does exist. How do you "steal" an app freely available on google play store & given all that Google takes, it isn't a fair exchange. Maybe you should have done your research - Google Camera is one such app - there's others. Including the Filmic that Saf mentioned is on iPhone - guess what it is on android, too. Apps for that is only 1 of 3 options to reproduce the low light effect. Calling using apps on a smart phone, a backdoor technique LMAO.
@@bipbop3121 what?! Dude it's a mod! Gcam mod is the Google camera app modded to be compatible with other phones! It's available on Xda forums and other forums, it's not available on the play store.
I use Gcam mod on my Zenfone (~120 usd), and it's brilliant, absolutely a must! But it's not a cover for a 1200usd phone. Gcam is a modded application, not guaranteed to work exactly like the pixels. AND It's NOT on the play store!
You should not hope on a random application mod to save your photo session needs when you bought a 1200USD phone!
@@bipbop3121 yea Filmic pro is available on Android, so what? We are talking about how can Xperia compete in challenging situations when it needs the help of computational photography.
So basically, the camera on the phone itself is bad, and this proves it. I expected far better from this Phone. And the updates Sony promised never came to me in Europe, while I can see that some of them have been implemented in the US and UK. Just for clarity -- I compared the Xperia 1 II to the S8 and even it takes better photos. Especially in dark areas and macro shots. Kind of a bummer, considering the promises and prices. I'm deffinetely going to skip Sony phones for awhile, which is a first in my life.
I got updates and even the Android 12 Update improved a lot as you can see on my Xperia 5 II rereview on my channel from a few days ago.
All in all the GCam mode I tried here was also poorly optimized and needs some tweaking here and there to run a bit better.
The 1 II is not perfect for sure but far better nowadays as it was on initial release.
badly configured the gcam,
can improve HDR and color in config
Then post your best configuration please. I will try it out and do a video if I think it is better
Please how can I install gcam on my xperia 1 mark 1
I am not sure that is possible
I actually saw videos of gcam being used on xperia 1 mark 1, but they were in Indian and other languages, not in English, so it is possible
Hey, got the new android 12 version somewhere?
Sorry not. I did not even receive Android 12 which is a bit weird.
did you imported config files?
Yeah
You definitely forgot to turn on hdr+
I don't even see an option for this.
@@lltechview can you try more gcam app? hdr+ is definitely what makes gcam worth it.
Also try to look up for the option, it may be hidden somewhere.
Thank you.
Even with gcam photos look awful.. Try manual settings for low light: SS:1/4, EV:1.3, ISO: AUTO
Gcam only improves bad phones
In this case I think the optimization for Xperia is not perfect. There is a reason the GCam Mod has been stopped
Photo Pro app is much better than this glitching and lagging sovtware.
Its makes it worst
You don't know how to use Gcam 😂
I cannot believe you are comparing stock native app from a 1200USD phone with a MOD made by some developer for free?!!!! Unbelievable!
he is doing research for the users. many people want google nightsight hdr etc on this phone. he just is checking if it is working or not like a google pixel camera app. as you can see its not
Exactly. I am not saying that GCam is trash. It is working wonders on Pixel and other phones
@@namelesssnitchy uh huh, that's not what I'm inferring! You are arguing against Saf's statements, that iPhone can use Filmic pro for pro controls but Sony cannot get as good an auto mode as the iPhone.
So you are using a random port of an app that's not guaranteed to work in the desired way as a counter argument! That's not sensible at all.
Pro controls will work similarly across all smartphones, the final result will depend on the quality of the sensor itself. Pro controls won't make up for a mediocre sensor. But a good native auto mode with computational photography can bridge the gap between a relative poor sensor and a high end sensor!
I use Gcam on my Zenfone Max Pro M1 and it's a must, it transforms a terrible camera into something that takes absolutely excellent images! But Gcam cannot be used as a cover for a 1200usd phone. It's a 3rd party mod, it's not even available on the play store. It's almost like stealing GOOGLE's computational prowess and saying it's an "option available for the Xperia". The Xperia needs a proper auto mode.
Other phones like the S21U, has a much advanced and larger main sensor capable of 12bit raw images, it's auto mode is excellent but it also comes with proper pro mode for both stills and video!