Honda: "We are committed to winning championships again." Also Honda: "We're thinking of leaving Formula 1 this year, next year, the year after - we don't know, we're still thinking, but we'll be back to win championships."
Ya know that Honda can't leave RB without an engine right?? Even so RB will fight to keep them... You can't just change an engine supplier just that easily... All the talks was for on or after 2026 when engine regulations changes or expire
Obviously having a name like Ford is fun and good for F1. But I still hate the idea of rebrands where companies slap their name on something with little involvement. Hopefully Ford really does work on the hybrid system fully.
I mean funding third parties and slapping their logo on it has always been the ford way to win in F1 and to an extent the wrc and various other series. So this is nothing new
Little involvement? Jordan was rebranded to Redbull. They were using ford engines back then . They are in a way reuniting with the team they were back when they competed in F1
Now it makes sense why Cadillac (GM) is now interested in F1. They heard rumblings of Ford's involvement, and if you want to be the top car manufacturer in the USA, you can't your rival company be in F1 and you not.
My comment was just pointing out that if the only (or main) reason to join f1 was because your rivals were there then why would the manufacturers mentionned above didnt try at all since the last 12+ years. I do not care about who is ''good'' or ''bad''.
What you've to understand is is Ford has limited experience with manufacturing EV engines. At present, the Ford Mach E is only capable of producing 98.7 kw/h vs the Honda Clarity E which has been in production since 2016 produces 121 kilowatts. Andretti will be best served partnering with Honda. My only concern is whether should Honda go at it alone, or do they've technical & engineering aspects in place to avoid what happened with BAU Honda.
Alright, when are we gonna start seeing silly movie tie-ins involving Jewelry and a member of Ford Brass being absolutely clueless about who's driving for them?
Honda didn’t drop the ball. Red Bull did. Honda already made intentions to stay in F1. RB/AT are already partners with Honda. It was a proven formula and partnership to be winners. But From what we know, RB chose another engine supplier over Honda.
@@cpcxgsr I disagree tho previous Honda CEO wanted to pull out of F1 for financial reasons as they wanted to pivot the business towards EVs, the New CEO wants to be in F1 and its too late, twice redbull have been left with serious uncertainty over an engine supplier making their own in house power units are is the only way to be truly independent.
@@JAREDPLY1 right, but it’s 2021/22 season, Honda made a promise to stay in F1 (Red Bull) until 2025. That is still years away. Even then, with Honda’s new management said they were committed in F1 beyond 2026. it wasn’t like Honda left RB hanging at the end of 2025, with no direction whether they will stay or go. RB already knows that Honda is committed to the sport… But it’s RB’s decision to go with Ford… I foresee in 2026 with Honda not associated with RB, RB’s without any real engine supplier’s alliance, Red Bull will be a disaster… Reason Red Bull was able to win the last 2 championships was because of Honda’s engineering alliance. Honda was feeding RB all of the technological info. It wasn’t like RBs in-house engineers that was keeping their engine program alive. In 2026, let’s see how RB will go without Honda’s guidance. Ford is just a sponsor. They don’t have the technological know how yet…
@@BigBanana55 I wonder how much of the current tech will be carried over to 2026 though. Surely some of the core tech that was developed by Honda will be carried over to the new powertrain, unless it's a 100% clean sheet design for everyone.
@@bonelesswatermelon420 RBPT working on their own engine since last year.. How can they build 2026 engine from scratch? Well one of 300 RBPT engineers are former Mercedes AMG F1 team Power Unit engineers.. So even if Honda wouldn't give Redbull any carry over, RBPT engineers still had basic knowledge on how to build F1 engine from scratch.. And if we look at how highly performance based operation in Redbull management, it's only the matter of time before RBPT become the top engine manufacturer
@@naufalpahlevi8976 These are all valid points. Surely among all the "non manufacturer" teams, RB and RBPT, regardless of their partner, are the ones best suited to nail the new regulations on the head once they take effect on 2026
Money talks. Ford is a worldwide fortune 500 company worth +50 billion dollars and have been around for 120 years. Andretti Autosport, known mostly in the motorsports community, came out in the 1980s and worth about 100 million, which is less than 1% of what Ford is worth.
@Crispin Peter-Mcgahan Exactly, which in turn shines such a strong light on them as to how utterly desperate they are to keep Andretti out of the mix, regardless of how hypocritical they sound.
@@mugshotmarley doesn’t explain why they won’t let GM, a company nearly as massive, if not more massive than Ford, was denied to do the same thing with Andretti as Ford just did with RB
This sounds like a win /win, especially for Ford. Being involved in the electronics, battery management side is a marketing 'race on Sunday / sell on Monday' perfect fit. "the new hybrid Mustang, with our F1 developed electronic management", I can see the ads now!
@@purwantiallan5089 one time? Michael Schumacher won two championships using a Ford motor, as well as Jackie Stewart winning three I believe under a Ford-Cosworth motor. Way far from a one-off.
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871 my comment was aimed at the bad script writing on this particular video. Being dismissive of the Ford/Cosworth history as "sketchy" is pretty poor work.
Well, the Ford deal is from 2026 onward. They're with Honda until then. Can't have a "livery reveal" if you're changing the livery right after, now can you?
As a fan of Ford and F1 I’m happy to see this and I think it can be good for the sport overall. That said I’m also curious about how effective they will be given they haven’t been in the sport for quite some time. I’d also love to see Andretti and GM getting involved. Thankfully F1 is growing in popularity here in the States and this could help drive even more interest.
Great job Honda. You wait for the perfect moment where you all are back to winning while F1 has finally gotten major interest in the U.S. (your biggest market btw) which will give you a serious boost in brand recognition, to throw it all away. Even if you develop a Honda works team, it
You almost state it: Honda has more to give F1, than they need vice versa. Seeing what they sell consumers is always great, we dont need a trophy for what on it self is powerfull.
If red bull gets the motorsport side of Ford involved great.. if they get good old "Ford" involved then good fucking luck. They'll be lucky to finish half the races.
Lol. I think the team leadership of jaguar said it best. I can't remember the exact quotes, some from Lauda some from technical directors... It's pure bureaucracy. If you need to alter a part you can't just machine it and get the car out, you have to send a request up the chain and by the time you got authorisation to do that it was out dated and you were fighting to get the upgrade approved. Basically you can't run a race team with a ford structure. They've been historically bad at it. Definitely watch the interview with Lauda talking about it. If they are there providing money only it'll be more likely to be successful.
@Lee so that's basically similar to what Toyota used to do in that time as well , too many decisions had to be referred to higher management and wait for approval , thats part of many reasons why Toyota failed, both as a team and engine.
Would it be crazy to think that Andretti Honda F1 team is now a possibility? Honda is staple name in the United States, both in sales and motorsport, would be too crazy to miss the opportunity.
Andretti Cadillac Honda F1 Team? Could be possible, but maybe General Motors will want to build their own engine down the line to give Ford a run for their money 🤣
Maybe this will help the GM/Andretti bid as it will be a massive USA rivalry, that will drive interest in the sport. Ford versus GM, the traditional USA rivalry.
I think this is smart, ford has probably one of the most popular and reliable v6 is customer vehicles. They a turbo v6 isnt new, they use it in most trucks and even the new ford gt. I think this was super smart
Ford Cosworth was one of the all time greats. Many decades ago. Automotive engineers, engineering scientists and corporate chief officers get replaced quite often, Hopefully, this decade will often more talent, skill, and commitment.
@@rars0n Wrong, the following is the parent company of Cosworth as a whole throughout their history; Ford (1967-1980) United Engineering Industries (1980-1990) Vickers plc (1990-1998) Volkswagen/Audi (1998-2004) Ford (2004-2005) Mahle GmbH (2005-)
@mgi 12321 This. As much as I love Porsche's engineering and motorsports history, they're as likely to quit as any other manufacturer as soon as it doesn't suit them. Owning half the team would have been the downfall of RBR.
As a massive Red Bull fan since an infant I would have loved to how this would’ve turned out IF they didn’t want to take halves on the team. Build us a bullet engine? Amazing! Destroy what we’ve built? Fuck off.
Finally switched that repetitive and at some point super annoying background music. Love you guys for that. It'll be interesting to see how things develop with Ford. Really looking forward to this for some reason.
It will all end in tears, mark my words! I seriously can't see RBPT or Ford being able to develop a power unit that can match Honda/Ferrari/Merc given how far behind RBPT/Ford already are. Probably Koenigsegg would have a better shot at it.
For those who know the M-Sport/Ford case in WRC, is basically the same thing. Ford puts the money and some tech from Detroit, while RBPT does the hard work
@@soundscape26 When he drove for Jaguar a Ford executive apparently said "Who's this Edmund Irvine we're paying millions to?" Not realising he was a driver
I feel like this partnership going to be a step backwards for RedBull especially if Honda is no longer involved, if it wasn't for the work that Honda did to drastically improve the performance and reliability of their engine RebBull would have never won the 2021 and 2022 championships, drivers or constructors.
@Aiman Azrie no they weren't lmao, even if everything went to normal procedure it ends with one lap with Max on fresh tires behind Lewis, Mercedes deciding not to pit cost them the championship no one else
1 thing is for sure ... u do a lott of research before making any videos ... which is y i like watching ur every video n made me subscribe to ur channel ... KEEP IT UP ALWAYS ..
Here is F1 sitting on their hands regulating an ever shrinking engine, meanwhile over at LeMans they have a Caddilac with a naturally aspirated 5.5L V8.
@Aiman Azrie If F1 had the guts to allow teams to use any engine format they want we would still have V10's and F1 would still be considered the best racing league in the world.
Lol this better be just a brand rebadge. Cause , ford's track record with cosworth ain't exactly pretty in F1. 2, ford loves their politics. That's how jaguar F1 imploded in the first place. The drama might be worse then if they're partnered with Porsche
@@bobbyde_pressed4023 What killed Jaguar F1 was Niki Lauda. When Bobby Rahal was running Jag F1 he had talked Andrian Newey into leaving McLaren and joining Jag but Lauda fubared the deal.
This should have been the most exciting reveal ever! Two times world champion team relaunching Ford into F1 after 20 years. And yet it was the most painfull, slow, and forced launch ever. It was just painful to watch
@@chriswickham8678 you do know Cosworth designed the FVA engine which they sold the rights to to Ford & it was developed into the DFV. Ford then supported Cosworth for many years. I cannot see anywhere that they actually OWNED Cosworth in this period though... Ford did actually own Cosworth racing for a couple of years in the early 2000s, but certainly in 2013 Cosworth was completely separate from Ford.
@@bobbyde_pressed4023 you do know what synonymous means don't you? Because they certainly weren't anything to do with Ford when the made F1 engines 2010-2013.
They’re going from Honda (Japanese reliability, performance, racing pedigree) to Ford (bankruptcy, consumer vehicles, muscle cars, questionable quality standards)? Good luck with that.
Ford were never really in F1 originally... they payed for naming rights to Cosworth developed engines. I suspect a similar arrangement will happen here, though it's possible a bit more F1 technology might trickle down to actual consumer products...
what you mean is lotus wanted cosworth to build an engine neither had the money and ford said we've got bucket loads of here lads. hardly the same thing. then ford bought cosworth in the late 90s.
I hope Ford will not get too much involvement in the development of the drivetrain. It’s nice to see Ford badge on an f1 car but that’s it. Looking at their history in f1 it’s better if they let rbr engineers do the work.
@@kellycollier2026 Only because the engine was made by Cosworth. It wasn't an engine actually developed by Ford Motor Company. They put Ford badge on the engine and I hope this is exactly what's going to happen with the RB engine.
2000's ha!! Try the 60s my friend. Cosworth existed at the level they did for 1 reason and it was big ol fat checks written by Ford. Look there is NO downside for F1 to see a few Americans involved. Heck if China and Japan can get a driver it only seems fair that the USA would have some type of representation within the organization of F1.
I’m sure Honda isn’t too thrilled with this announcement. It’s 2023 but RB is already introducing a new engine partner for 2026. It’s a slap in the face for Honda. RB and Ford could have at least kept the news quiet until 2025. Honda is STILL a partner with RB until then… what an insult to Honda
Honda insulted Redbull first.. You need to watch 2016 season and 2018,2019 season to see how good or bad Redbull family treated Honda, compared to McLaren.. Had Honda former CEO didn't selfishly decided to quit F1, Redbull wouldn't overspent their catering budget to build a brand new RBPT and hired 300 engineers..
Ford has been making some great little engines with the EcoBoost and TurboBoost technologies, it just makes sense that with the shifting to smaller F1 cars Ford could get in on the action with years of experience on the cheap.
I’m a bit iffy about this change in engine, Honda is working amazing atm and I hate that we will no longer work with them. Hopefully ford live up to what Honda has done for us so far!
I'm a Lewis Hamilton supporter, I'm so happy Ford is going to supply engines for red bull. Ford can take a silk purse and turn it into a sows ear, harray for Red Bull. Maybe Honda's technology and intellectual property can keep Red Bull/Ford competitive until mid-season. Ford is known for manufacturing short cuts that decrease their costs and the reliability of parts.
There are enough grand prix in america, the entire continent of africa has 0. America is more than saturated enough in terms of races, I'm not saying they're all accessible or good races but they are on the calendar.
"Sketchy" F1 history? Yeah, whatever. How is Ford only "contributing" when Jim Farley said this "Starting from 2023, Ford will work to develop the power unit that will be part of the new technical regulations, including a 350kW electric motor and a new combustion engine able to accept fully sustainable fuels, ready for the 2026 season". Sounds to me like Ford is doing all the work.
its no different to the aston martin badging that first appeared on the force india pink panthers. its still a RB honda. Ford have a terrible history of not keeping up with advanced hybrid tech. They created some of the best small engines, their ECO range was fantastic output for tiny amounts of fuel. I dont think Ford has the brains to do F1 they are too middle management heavy. Id rather RB teamed with a new tech supplier like a Tesla Red Bull. That would be news...
the main things are the electronic technology ford has, the structure for motor and car development, software ahead of the time , but to look deep strat wise, they know they have only to 25 with Honda, so they are anticipating ford, so they can work on the PU 2 years before they really arrive
Honda: "We are committed to winning championships again."
Also Honda: "We're thinking of leaving Formula 1 this year, next year, the year after - we don't know, we're still thinking, but we'll be back to win championships."
Mclaren honda reunion 3.0
That would be the dream. McLaren needs to be a works operation to be a title contender and Honda with its new leadership wants to get back in.
Ya know that Honda can't leave RB without an engine right?? Even so RB will fight to keep them... You can't just change an engine supplier just that easily... All the talks was for on or after 2026 when engine regulations changes or expire
Honda F1 strategy 101 -
1. Commit heavily
2. Struggle
3. Win
4. Leave
@@DjDolHaus86 more like
1. Commit heavily
2. Struggle
3. Leave
4. Win
Ford joining the team it sold. I love it
Lol, earth is round.
"You couldn't live with your own failure, where did that bring you? Back to me" - Christian Horner, Avengers:Endgame..probably
Sounds like Range rover and jaguar being sold to tata motors after they shrugged em off for being Indian 😂
A solid heavy duty terd Ford sucks ass
Their first car will be the RBF1😍
Obviously having a name like Ford is fun and good for F1. But I still hate the idea of rebrands where companies slap their name on something with little involvement.
Hopefully Ford really does work on the hybrid system fully.
I mean funding third parties and slapping their logo on it has always been the ford way to win in F1 and to an extent the wrc and various other series. So this is nothing new
Little involvement? Jordan was rebranded to Redbull. They were using ford engines back then .
They are in a way reuniting with the team they were back when they competed in F1
@@DanielFenandes obviously referring to them slapping a FORD badge on a fundamentally HONDA engine
@@sobversion3 that's not what's happening. Ford partnership starts in 2026 with the new engine regulations
im sure they will be, ford has been very involved and successful in most motorsports unlike most manufacturers
Now it makes sense why Cadillac (GM) is now interested in F1. They heard rumblings of Ford's involvement, and if you want to be the top car manufacturer in the USA, you can't your rival company be in F1 and you not.
Meanwhile lamborghini and german giants (VW and bmw) not caring for 12+ years
@A Z so what's good in your opinion?
@@SpeedKillersGaming Because they failed well BMW did and VW has been tied up in WEC
My comment was just pointing out that if the only (or main) reason to join f1 was because your rivals were there then why would the manufacturers mentionned above didnt try at all since the last 12+ years. I do not care about who is ''good'' or ''bad''.
@A Z so edgy
I’m very intrigued by this move and it’ll be even more intriguing if Andretti is able to join the field setting up a nice battle of Ford vs GM in F1!
They won’t but it’s nice to have dreams
@@MrCTruck Conner Kelly, i belive wish if we put the Ford GT40 engine into RB19, it may have a totally different outcome.
Chevy and or GM has never been in F1. They cannot hold a candle to Ford in international racing.
@@ThePerpetualStudent you obviously can't read
What you've to understand is is Ford has limited experience with manufacturing EV engines. At present, the Ford Mach E is only capable of producing 98.7 kw/h vs the Honda Clarity E which has been in production since 2016 produces 121 kilowatts. Andretti will be best served partnering with Honda. My only concern is whether should Honda go at it alone, or do they've technical & engineering aspects in place to avoid what happened with BAU Honda.
Funny how we’ve just about come full cycle now lol
"and isn't it ironic?"
Especially now Danny ric has returned
@@tuttutteddy8889 wish Setsuna Yuki raced for Red Bull and not Ricciardo.
@@09csr make it quadruple ironic.
Alright, when are we gonna start seeing silly movie tie-ins involving Jewelry and a member of Ford Brass being absolutely clueless about who's driving for them?
Honda really dropped the ball with this.
Honda didn’t drop the ball. Red Bull did. Honda already made intentions to stay in F1. RB/AT are already partners with Honda. It was a proven formula and partnership to be winners. But From what we know, RB chose another engine supplier over Honda.
@@cpcxgsr I disagree tho previous Honda CEO wanted to pull out of F1 for financial reasons as they wanted to pivot the business towards EVs, the New CEO wants to be in F1 and its too late, twice redbull have been left with serious uncertainty over an engine supplier making their own in house power units are is the only way to be truly independent.
@@JAREDPLY1 right, but it’s 2021/22 season, Honda made a promise to stay in F1 (Red Bull) until 2025. That is still years away. Even then, with Honda’s new management said they were committed in F1 beyond 2026. it wasn’t like Honda left RB hanging at the end of 2025, with no direction whether they will stay or go. RB already knows that Honda is committed to the sport… But it’s RB’s decision to go with Ford…
I foresee in 2026 with Honda not associated with RB, RB’s without any real engine supplier’s alliance, Red Bull will be a disaster… Reason Red Bull was able to win the last 2 championships was because of Honda’s engineering alliance. Honda was feeding RB all of the technological info. It wasn’t like RBs in-house engineers that was keeping their engine program alive.
In 2026, let’s see how RB will go without Honda’s guidance. Ford is just a sponsor. They don’t have the technological know how yet…
No they are going to go to better managed teams :)
Lmao they’re going to regret splitting from Honda after the first season of partnering with Ford.
Can’t wait to see the switch gear from a Mondeo on the wheel 🤌🏼
As long as it ain't American Ford parts
@Jim Tore Oshaug all ford parts are bad american or not
@@JakkeJakobsen what if TommyKaira or Mine's joined F1 as Mercedes engine powertrain?
@@dingrey Nico Yazawa also a fan of those Fords.
I'm really curious how technically involved Ford is going to be and how big of an engineer wave is heading towards Milton Keynes.
Hopefully none, Ford isn't well known for quality engineering
In the ICE department? Not very, methinks. But in the EV bits? Well, RB Have implied that they might need help with that, so there is that.
@@OscyJack- you might want to delete that, ford has 10 championships as an engine constructor
At least some know the way there, given how close it was to Aston Martin's old plant in Newport Pagnell. LOL.
ford is leading the eletric road
No way Honda just handed off their work to another company AGAIN
I was thinking the same .🤔
They haven't. Honda will continue to build Redbull's engines in japan until 2025, protecting their IP, untill the Redbull- Ford colab begins in 2026.
@@BigBanana55 I wonder how much of the current tech will be carried over to 2026 though. Surely some of the core tech that was developed by Honda will be carried over to the new powertrain, unless it's a 100% clean sheet design for everyone.
@@bonelesswatermelon420 RBPT working on their own engine since last year.. How can they build 2026 engine from scratch? Well one of 300 RBPT engineers are former Mercedes AMG F1 team Power Unit engineers.. So even if Honda wouldn't give Redbull any carry over, RBPT engineers still had basic knowledge on how to build F1 engine from scratch..
And if we look at how highly performance based operation in Redbull management, it's only the matter of time before RBPT become the top engine manufacturer
@@naufalpahlevi8976 These are all valid points. Surely among all the "non manufacturer" teams, RB and RBPT, regardless of their partner, are the ones best suited to nail the new regulations on the head once they take effect on 2026
F1 Teams: "Andretti shouldn't be allowed to rebrand their engine!"
Red Bull: "Welcome to F1, Ford.. let's do business."
I was thinking that same thing
Money talks. Ford is a worldwide fortune 500 company worth +50 billion dollars and have been around for 120 years. Andretti Autosport, known mostly in the motorsports community, came out in the 1980s and worth about 100 million, which is less than 1% of what Ford is worth.
@Crispin Peter-Mcgahan Exactly, which in turn shines such a strong light on them as to how utterly desperate they are to keep Andretti out of the mix, regardless of how hypocritical they sound.
@@mugshotmarley doesn’t explain why they won’t let GM, a company nearly as massive, if not more massive than Ford, was denied to do the same thing with Andretti as Ford just did with RB
@@NITRO2494 LOL, yank whine
I'm finally back into F1 mode again! Excited for 2023.
Me too, Robert Lewis. Wish Maserati and Bentley joined F1 as engine suppliers for McLaren and Williams.
Love the Honda ad before this video 😂😂
This sounds like a win /win, especially for Ford. Being involved in the electronics, battery management side is a marketing 'race on Sunday / sell on Monday' perfect fit. "the new hybrid Mustang, with our F1 developed electronic management", I can see the ads now!
I'm gonna miss Yuki once Honda is gone...
Yuki would almost certainly left F1 next season.. Unless he up his game and beat the Debris next to him
@@naufalpahlevi8976 hopefully he can.
@@naufalpahlevi8976 Keke Tang may replace Yuki Tsunoda whilst Kasumi Nakasu may replace Debris.
@@calussy8040 nope. Kasumi Nakasu may gonna replace Tsunoda. Soon or later.
"Sketchy History" literally produced the single most successful formula engine of all time.
More like most successful one timer.
@@purwantiallan5089 one time? Michael Schumacher won two championships using a Ford motor, as well as Jackie Stewart winning three I believe under a Ford-Cosworth motor. Way far from a one-off.
Do you realize that they will only put a Ford sticker on the red bull powertrain??
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871 my comment was aimed at the bad script writing on this particular video. Being dismissive of the Ford/Cosworth history as "sketchy" is pretty poor work.
@@lesscubes even back then the ICU was produced by cosworth with very little contribution from Ford...
It was funny to see they talk about ford, meanwhile a Honda sticker on the car
Well, the Ford deal is from 2026 onward. They're with Honda until then. Can't have a "livery reveal" if you're changing the livery right after, now can you?
As a fan of Ford and F1 I’m happy to see this and I think it can be good for the sport overall. That said I’m also curious about how effective they will be given they haven’t been in the sport for quite some time. I’d also love to see Andretti and GM getting involved. Thankfully F1 is growing in popularity here in the States and this could help drive even more interest.
Great job Honda. You wait for the perfect moment where you all are back to winning while F1 has finally gotten major interest in the U.S. (your biggest market btw) which will give you a serious boost in brand recognition, to throw it all away.
Even if you develop a Honda works team, it
You almost state it: Honda has more to give F1, than they need vice versa. Seeing what they sell consumers is always great, we dont need a trophy for what on it self is powerfull.
I just hope Ford does not forget to tighten the transmission bolts on the f1 car in 2026 just like they did on the current generation explorer
😂
If red bull gets the motorsport side of Ford involved great.. if they get good old "Ford" involved then good fucking luck. They'll be lucky to finish half the races.
@@beeman4266 wish Red Bull also involved with Maserati or Deltawing.
What’s the over/under for the amount of engine failures?
Ford 2025 Program is basically a heat gun removing Honda badges from F1 Engine.
Yo, ford is a great brand to come back to F1.
Fords trash
You apparently don't remember why they left...
Lol. I think the team leadership of jaguar said it best. I can't remember the exact quotes, some from Lauda some from technical directors...
It's pure bureaucracy. If you need to alter a part you can't just machine it and get the car out, you have to send a request up the chain and by the time you got authorisation to do that it was out dated and you were fighting to get the upgrade approved.
Basically you can't run a race team with a ford structure. They've been historically bad at it. Definitely watch the interview with Lauda talking about it. If they are there providing money only it'll be more likely to be successful.
@Lee so that's basically similar to what Toyota used to do in that time as well , too many decisions had to be referred to higher management and wait for approval , thats part of many reasons why Toyota failed, both as a team and engine.
@@Lee883that's a good throwback to Ford vs Ferrari movie, Shelby's words "you can't win a race by a committee"
I wouldn't call the DFV sketchy.
Too sketchy actually.
NGL as a Chevy guy... I'm actually really impressed with how involved Ford has gone in on racing from 2023 going forward.
They’re putting a sticker on the Red Bull😅 I’m not impressed 😅
@@DickTahshon It’s more than that. They are helping with development
@@DickTahshon Ford is 3rd all-time in F1 wins,They’re not just putting stickers on Engines
@@fivehundrediq5212 does Williams still have the most WDC?😅 Ford will flop.😅
Would it be crazy to think that Andretti Honda F1 team is now a possibility? Honda is staple name in the United States, both in sales and motorsport, would be too crazy to miss the opportunity.
Andretti Cadillac Honda F1 Team? Could be possible, but maybe General Motors will want to build their own engine down the line to give Ford a run for their money 🤣
@@RolfeeeMusic what about Bentley Red Bull F1? With Setsuna Yuki and Lanzhu Zhong as their driver lineup?
@@RolfeeeMusic Chevy already runs an Indycar operation, not that far fetched.
I wonder if this is the catalyst that Honda needed to finally become a full works team and create something of a contender of their own.
Because that worked so well last time
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@@deandejaguar 👍👍👍
Maybe this will help the GM/Andretti bid as it will be a massive USA rivalry, that will drive interest in the sport. Ford versus GM, the traditional USA rivalry.
Hope this new rivalry lives on.
With the spike in US followers, a GM/Ford rivalry would only help F1 grow even more.
Teams, all 10, have a say in that. Basically it means little chance for Andretti and GM.
@@Paul_C definitely agree it more than likely won’t happen. Would be fun to see Ford and GM go head to head in F1 though.
Honda needs to stay in f1
I'm so heart broken
Mclaren Honda for the 3rd time?
They win and they leave it's all on them but it does suck, for Honda anyways.
@@thorvilkwilliams9596 YEs! And Alonso can't retire before he reached 65. whehehe This time he gets welded into the car. XD
So now we know when the Red Bull dominance will end
2023 maybe the end of Red Bull's domination.
Partnered with Honda till 2025
I think this is smart, ford has probably one of the most popular and reliable v6 is customer vehicles. They a turbo v6 isnt new, they use it in most trucks and even the new ford gt. I think this was super smart
Wow. I'm guessing Honda wanted to return in 2026 with a new engine regulation. Good deal for both brands. Ford's return is very welcomed.
Ford Cosworth was one of the all time greats. Many decades ago. Automotive engineers, engineering scientists and corporate chief officers get replaced quite often, Hopefully, this decade will often more talent, skill, and commitment.
Only problem with that is Cosworth were making the engines, not Ford. Ford involvement was pure sponsorship.
@@TBMartin Ford owned cosworth.......
@@Alucard-gt1zf Wrong, Ford owned Cosworth Racing, the racing engine division, from 1998 to 2004. Ford never owned Cosworth.
@@rars0n Wrong, the following is the parent company of Cosworth as a whole throughout their history;
Ford (1967-1980)
United Engineering Industries (1980-1990)
Vickers plc (1990-1998)
Volkswagen/Audi (1998-2004)
Ford (2004-2005)
Mahle GmbH (2005-)
Weird how there were so many speculations on all sorts of things, but no one knew this was coming until it was announced
I’m happy Red Bull found a partner to help them with building their engines but who else still wonders what could have been with Porsche?
*Rises hand
Yeah i was sad and disappointed when en the porsche deal fell apart.
The problem is that Porsche and Audi are part of the same group and could share technology. Imagine the work of Red Bull ends up in Audi camp.
@mgi 12321 This. As much as I love Porsche's engineering and motorsports history, they're as likely to quit as any other manufacturer as soon as it doesn't suit them. Owning half the team would have been the downfall of RBR.
As a massive Red Bull fan since an infant I would have loved to how this would’ve turned out IF they didn’t want to take halves on the team. Build us a bullet engine? Amazing! Destroy what we’ve built? Fuck off.
Finally switched that repetitive and at some point super annoying background music. Love you guys for that.
It'll be interesting to see how things develop with Ford. Really looking forward to this for some reason.
It will all end in tears, mark my words! I seriously can't see RBPT or Ford being able to develop a power unit that can match Honda/Ferrari/Merc given how far behind RBPT/Ford already are. Probably Koenigsegg would have a better shot at it.
For those who know the M-Sport/Ford case in WRC, is basically the same thing. Ford puts the money and some tech from Detroit, while RBPT does the hard work
Please run a high pass filter over your videos TheRace, Scott nearly blows out my subwoofer whenever he hits a plosive. Cheers
What's the chances of getting Edmund Irvine in the management team? :D
Who is Edmund Irvine?
@@CrashXII Not entirely sure but they're gonna pay him millions of dollars :D
@@CrashXII Eddie Irvine, the ex-driver I suppose.
@@soundscape26 When he drove for Jaguar a Ford executive apparently said "Who's this Edmund Irvine we're paying millions to?" Not realising he was a driver
a man of culture i see
I feel like this partnership going to be a step backwards for RedBull especially if Honda is no longer involved, if it wasn't for the work that Honda did to drastically improve the performance and reliability of their engine RebBull would have never won the 2021 and 2022 championships, drivers or constructors.
They were gifted the 2021 championship
@@kramshiron no they weren't cope harder
@Aiman Azrie no they weren't lmao, even if everything went to normal procedure it ends with one lap with Max on fresh tires behind Lewis, Mercedes deciding not to pit cost them the championship no one else
It's Honda that' made the mistake it's all on them.
@@CabMech Fitting profile pic
Yes!!!!!!! Finally. Missed the old Ford teams and Jaguar
So what I'm hearing is the RB19 is gonna have reliability issues.
1 thing is for sure ... u do a lott of research before making any videos ... which is y i like watching ur every video n made me subscribe to ur channel ... KEEP IT UP ALWAYS ..
Here is F1 sitting on their hands regulating an ever shrinking engine, meanwhile over at LeMans they have a Caddilac with a naturally aspirated 5.5L V8.
@Aiman Azrie "Speed" means nothing in formula motorsport because it's all regulated.
@Aiman Azrie If F1 had the guts to allow teams to use any engine format they want we would still have V10's and F1 would still be considered the best racing league in the world.
Can’t wait to see Max in a F-150
Lol this better be just a brand rebadge. Cause , ford's track record with cosworth ain't exactly pretty in F1. 2, ford loves their politics. That's how jaguar F1 imploded in the first place. The drama might be worse then if they're partnered with Porsche
@@bobbyde_pressed4023
What killed Jaguar F1 was Niki Lauda. When Bobby Rahal was running Jag F1 he had talked Andrian Newey into leaving McLaren and joining Jag but Lauda fubared the deal.
What an epic brand for the F1 world!
Ford + RBR = WINNERS!
Fun fact. Honda is the only company to back out of f1 after they started winning.
Not just once. They pulled their whole works team out last minute, hence brawn. We know how that ended....
@@jimbooo1365 cringe even.
Honda did it lots of times
Honda seems to have shot themselves in the foot
That 2003 Jordan is the best looking post-millenium F1 car, and it’s not even close.
This should have been the most exciting reveal ever!
Two times world champion team relaunching Ford into F1 after 20 years.
And yet it was the most painfull, slow, and forced launch ever. It was just painful to watch
Much like the product they will run on track.
I am 100% for this partnership!!!
So Red Bull now has a great engine made by Honda. So let's get rid of this and get a Ford Engine. Total sense.
Hahahaha l love @0:38 you stick Andretti in there when you say success or “failure”. Come on! You didn’t have to do that.
Big L for Honda...
Nearly 2 decades, I remember Marussia using a Cosworth engine in the 2013 Marussia
Cosworth isn't Ford. Clue is the fact the name is different. The two get associated because of the DFV & Cosworth branded fast Fords of the 80s & 90s.
@@alexfrance500 you do know cosworth build the engine in 60,70,80,90 ford just money for them
U realise cosworth and ford are synonymous in F1 right?
@@chriswickham8678 you do know Cosworth designed the FVA engine which they sold the rights to to Ford & it was developed into the DFV. Ford then supported Cosworth for many years. I cannot see anywhere that they actually OWNED Cosworth in this period though... Ford did actually own Cosworth racing for a couple of years in the early 2000s, but certainly in 2013 Cosworth was completely separate from Ford.
@@bobbyde_pressed4023 you do know what synonymous means don't you? Because they certainly weren't anything to do with Ford when the made F1 engines 2010-2013.
I don't about you, guys and gals, but I smell McLaren Honda '15-'17 in this partnership. 🗿
Honda must be delighted … supplying a championship winning engine and all the talk will be about Ford
They’re going from Honda (Japanese reliability, performance, racing pedigree) to Ford (bankruptcy, consumer vehicles, muscle cars, questionable quality standards)? Good luck with that.
You are missing Ford's deepstate mode...like when that LeMans revelations happend.
Ford (bankruptcy) you mean GM & Dodge Ford never took any of the money
Ford were never really in F1 originally... they payed for naming rights to Cosworth developed engines. I suspect a similar arrangement will happen here, though it's possible a bit more F1 technology might trickle down to actual consumer products...
All marketing aimed at that gullible usa viewer.
what you mean is lotus wanted cosworth to build an engine neither had the money and ford said we've got bucket loads of here lads. hardly the same thing. then ford bought cosworth in the late 90s.
I love the idea of Car Manufacturers coming to F1 to duke it out🥊
to build far-off nerdskelters actually. Ah GT-love is much more jock.
I hope Ford will not get too much involvement in the development of the drivetrain. It’s nice to see Ford badge on an f1 car but that’s it. Looking at their history in f1 it’s better if they let rbr engineers do the work.
They are the 3rd most winning team/company in F1 history.
"Looking at their history in F1" - Someone who seems to think F1 started in the 2000s
@@Evarakeus its crazy how many commentors are exposing their own lack of wheel knowledge today
@@kellycollier2026 Only because the engine was made by Cosworth. It wasn't an engine actually developed by Ford Motor Company. They put Ford badge on the engine and I hope this is exactly what's going to happen with the RB engine.
2000's ha!! Try the 60s my friend. Cosworth existed at the level they did for 1 reason and it was big ol fat checks written by Ford. Look there is NO downside for F1 to see a few Americans involved. Heck if China and Japan can get a driver it only seems fair that the USA would have some type of representation within the organization of F1.
Honda + Williams reunion ? With Gulf livery would be quite nice
I’m sure Honda isn’t too thrilled with this announcement. It’s 2023 but RB is already introducing a new engine partner for 2026. It’s a slap in the face for Honda. RB and Ford could have at least kept the news quiet until 2025. Honda is STILL a partner with RB until then… what an insult to Honda
I have feeling bc Honda already registered for the 2026 engine regs, that the will buyout Alpha Tauri by that time and makes it a works team.
Honda insulted Redbull first.. You need to watch 2016 season and 2018,2019 season to see how good or bad Redbull family treated Honda, compared to McLaren..
Had Honda former CEO didn't selfishly decided to quit F1, Redbull wouldn't overspent their catering budget to build a brand new RBPT and hired 300 engineers..
Ford has been making some great little engines with the EcoBoost and TurboBoost technologies, it just makes sense that with the shifting to smaller F1 cars Ford could get in on the action with years of experience on the cheap.
Ecoboost engines are terrible
Did anyone see this coming? I genuinely had no idea this was going to happen..
RB has been suggesting this would happen for the past year. No its not surprising
I’m a bit iffy about this change in engine, Honda is working amazing atm and I hate that we will no longer work with them. Hopefully ford live up to what Honda has done for us so far!
Now we know why at least 2 of teams is fighting so hard to keep Andretti/ GM out of F1.
No Honda? mistake
I'm a Lewis Hamilton supporter, I'm so happy Ford is going to supply engines for red bull. Ford can take a silk purse and turn it into a sows ear, harray for Red Bull. Maybe Honda's technology and intellectual property can keep Red Bull/Ford competitive until mid-season. Ford is known for manufacturing short cuts that decrease their costs and the reliability of parts.
Ford VS GM in F1? :O
Ford vs Ferrari in 2026 for the constructor and drivers championship, history repeat itself.
The RBF Will DOMINATE If they get this right and I pray they do!
Hoping for Detroit GP now
There are enough grand prix in america, the entire continent of africa has 0. America is more than saturated enough in terms of races, I'm not saying they're all accessible or good races but they are on the calendar.
I would rather have Argentina GP or another south america GP
Nah, too many yank races already. They dilute the spirit of F1.
Nah, the roads here are terrible and Indy already has dibs on the street circuit.
@@tuna5618 thank God I'm not the only one who thinks 3 US Grands Prix is too much.
Very Glad FORD are getting back in.
RB gonna be a midfield team from 2026 onwards 💀
The more ‘engine’ manufacturers F1 has the better. More competition will, or hopefully should mean better racing between the teams.
After Honda leaves REDBULL..that team will fall.
You guys need to de ess your videos audio, really annoying to watch when the audio is like this
I do not belive that Red Bull has done this. To leave Honda, this is madness...
It's Honda's fault for leaving motorsport again but it's still disappointing
Wasn't it Honda who decided to leave?
I would to see Honda supply Alpha tauri
This is not going to end well.
5:09 jeez, Mi.Andretti looks ominous there
Describing Ford’s history in F1 as “sketchy” is a bit harsh.
They should have had prank reveal of a car that was F1 in the front and F150 in the back.
This won't work as RBPT lacks the experience and ingenuity of a Cosworth ( who built engines for Ford before). This will backfire spectacularly.
@Crispin Peter-Mcgahan Plus a tone of ex-HPP engineers jumped ship to RBPT. Looks to me like this is the project for the future.
@Crispin Peter-Mcgahan The Honda employees will leave again.
@@TheSt1092 The former MGU-H Honda staff dont work for Honda under any jurastiction now- all are full time RBPT Staff .
Now that Ford is in, it will put pressure on GM (via Cadillac or other brand) to enter F1 too
"Sketchy" F1 history? Yeah, whatever. How is Ford only "contributing" when Jim Farley said this "Starting from 2023, Ford will work to develop the power unit that will be part of the new technical regulations, including a 350kW electric motor and a new combustion engine able to accept fully sustainable fuels, ready for the 2026 season". Sounds to me like Ford is doing all the work.
Corporations can't run F1 programs...ask Bobby Rahal...
Ford doesn’t even make cars anymore mostly soccer mom SUVs and lackluster trucks… what makes you think they can race them?
@@daniels.2720 daniel: is Mercedes or Ferrari a corporation?
@@MattO109 Mustang,Mondeo,Escort,Evos and Focus are still available in China
basically:
Ford Money - historically good omen
Ford Involvment - historically bad omen
its no different to the aston martin badging that first appeared on the force india pink panthers. its still a RB honda. Ford have a terrible history of not keeping up with advanced hybrid tech. They created some of the best small engines, their ECO range was fantastic output for tiny amounts of fuel. I dont think Ford has the brains to do F1 they are too middle management heavy. Id rather RB teamed with a new tech supplier like a Tesla Red Bull. That would be news...
So Red Bull Power trains needs a much bigger assistant,thats nice
Hopefully their high recall numbers don’t hurt them to much.
How ironic, I had a Honda ad for the video.. 😂
There isn't an executive at Ford who wouldn't ask Mario Andretti for an autograph. So much for Red Bull opposing the Andretti/GM/ Alpine deal.
If there f1 engines are anything like the vehicles they sell, this is doom for red Bull. Can’t wait to watch.
Red Bull has yet to sell a vehicle, so I don't know what you're on about
@@halofreak1990 LMAO what you didn't hear about the new Red Bull Raptors yet?!
I of course don't know what happened behind closed doors, but Honda or Porsche would have been a much better fit.
Damn this is actually impressive now
the main things are the electronic technology ford has, the structure for motor and car development, software ahead of the time , but to look deep strat wise, they know they have only to 25 with Honda, so they are anticipating ford, so they can work on the PU 2 years before they really arrive
I hope another team picks up the Ford engine. I'd love to support them, but I can't get behind RBR.
Stroll should grab hold of Honda now.
Ford officials was happy to see a Honda branded car at thier presentation :))
while we're talking about it, can we get these engines to actually sound good again...
Don't let them touch ANYTHING, if it ain't broken...
I'm just sad for Honda man