The CULT of Simon Sinek..(The Feelgood Corporate Guru) |
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BTW He charges $98,000 for his leadership training.
Lol holy crap 😂 yikes
He'd have to pay me that to listen to that drivvle.
Lolol
🤯 WTF!!! 😂
Well u went for simon sinek now damm bro awesome you just open eyes. Lets see how simon reacts
Simon Sinek is not a problem solver; he is a performer.
It’s like Steven Spielberg wrote him a movie script , nobody is that passionate about corporate.
@@sha8888 Haha, so true.
That is his job. Being a successful guru is not about solving issues, it is about selling your solutions. And the best way to sell the solution is to appeal to what the people want.
Companies do not want to pay more, they want more for paying there employees less.
While employees do not want to be blamed for things that are not there fault.
So Simon sells companies and employees exactly what they want to hear as best he can.
He cannot sell the best solution because companies will not accept it, so he would not get the success he is looking for by addressing the elephant in the room.
If you have the best solution, nobody will really care or listen to your solution.
So he sells the idea that it is the leaders fault for not properly leading. If leaders became better at maximizing extraction from employees, then employees would give more.
He sells it to younger generations by saying that they are not giving enough productivity because the system failed them. They were raised that they deserve more when they really deserve less. That they should sacrifice more because it is fulfilling to maximize what you give to employers.
Which is bullshit manipulation, but it is working when it comes to selling his solution, that is what matters.
Most gurus are like this. They rarely sell the best solution, they sell you the best sounding solution that makes them the most money.
A Circus Clown -
I make fun of him all the time everywhere
Perfectly said! He is just a performer, that's it.
Simon is a vaseline seller, so you don't get hurt while you're screwed over and over.
Good analogy 😆
Hahahaha
You mean, to not feel *FEEL* hurt.
OMG
Hey I use that everyday. Haha
I've always had a weird feeling that Simon's talks weren't designed for the regular employee in mind, but to placate to the executives. In their mind, they want justification and excuses for the culture they created.
That is always the case when a company hires someone like him.
Management finds it easier to hire a motivational speaker than to make changes that actually motivate people.
I think you’re overthinking this. It’s not like he goes in there and does a case study of the company - he probably meets with upper management for a few one-on-ones, and then launches into his motivational speech for a company sit down - basically what GaryVee does. You’re statement reads like he’s there to justify bad culture, I’m sure he’s given presentations at companies that have healthy cultures too. Your outlook is too myopic.
@@beretaniastreet6384 Perhaps. Maybe I'm being too hard on him. Change of any significance is tough, lengthy, and takes lots of planning. It may be a case of too little time for mangers to devote to improving workplace culture.
@@Procrastinator411 thanks for the reasoned reply. I actually agree with your original statement. I am certain that many bad companies hire Sinek to do just what you said - and he does so for a fat fee. My position is that, if you read/watch him, there are nuggets of good stuff. Are they original? Nope. Are they particularly insightful? depends on where your at in your career and where you want to go. Like I’ve said in other comments, there 10-20% that is useful. The rest is either junk or not useful to you/me. Take the 10% that can help - throw the rest in the junk pile.
So sorry, if I came off disputing you - I fully think your OP was spot on, I’m just trying to get people to not always throw out the baby with the bath water.
@@beretaniastreet6384 generally if a company if bringing someone like him in, it isn't because things are going well. You don't need to motivate people in a healthy culture
I'm totally on board with your rant here. What gets me is that when you start vocalising this horseshit with real colleagues, most of them accuse you of being negative and defend the system that screws them over. Drives me insane🙄
preach
Trying to get people to realize that they're plugged into the matrix is a waste of time. Just focus on getting yourself out of it.
I've been in management for over 7yrs now. VERY true. Meetings are filled with Simon Wanna-be's. They can't even imagine that people would leave a mediocre paying job with poor work life balance. They blame it on managers......"people don't leave jobs, they leave bad managers". Omg if I had a dollar every time I heard that horse shit. Its why my departments are always the most stable while others crumble. Understand a job is a job, not a lifestyle. Understand its a transaction. Understand and respect peoples lives....dont guilt trip them for not wanting to hangout after work..... just let it be a job.....its NOT a mission! Once you understand that, you stop trying to manipulate or fool people into staying. Once people feel like they're talking to a real human and not some cheesy motivation salesman they're able to take you seriously and might stay a little longer....might help out more.....
Example.....someone calls u up, it was the wrong number. You tell them "wrong number" they say "oh I'm sorry"...maybe even change a generic joke.
Now imagine a telemarketer is calling you and harassing you.
THAT is the difference. People don't wanna be assholes to normal people, but we LOVE being assholes to people who try to manipulate us and lie to us.
@@laverdadbuscador I agree with you. "People don't leave jobs, they leave bad managers". Well let's run an experiment; if anyone that says that won 500 million dollars in the lottery tomorrow, would they still show up to work? Case closed, y'all cute with your quotes though.
@@wuzumaki An even simpler experiment is, how many of us still work at our first entry level job? My boss wasn't an asshole and was flexible in my needs. Still left because the job sucked and didn't pay enough. I think HR and CEO's like this idea that retention is within their control for free by simply being "nice". Sure if your boss is an ass people will absolutely quit, but if the job just isn't that great it doesn't matter how good a boss is people will still leave.
CEO's want slaves, feel their entitled to slaves, call people who don't wanna be slaves lazy....and call existing slaves "family" because it helps them feel like they're a good person.
"This is all nonsense, and no amount of team building family atmosphere being invested diminishes the fact that a job is an exchange of value for money for profit. That's it. Anything else is psychological manipulation." 100% spot on. To add to this, you know you're in a cult-like environment if you get labeled as cynical for having this attitude.
When you pay a personal trainer to tell yourself to do the exercise you already want yourself to do that's also psychological manipulation, but it's voluntary. I have no problem with the fact of psychological manipulation on the job, I try to do this to myself all the time, it just has to have the effects and purposes I agree with. Like when you join the army, you're marching together, shouting slogans, suffering for the sake of suffering, but all this manipulates you to be able to accomplish something as a group that you could never do before.
Lol this guy needs to stop being so edgy, he is scaring the childrens. I think the whole point behind him trying to create a good workplace culture or social environment is to make work worthwhile.
yah his goals are to drive ppl to succeed but why is he demonizing the intent to help ur employees work harder.
What he is saying isn't new and there are numerous examples of good workplace culture driving the company to unprecedented success. Like Zappos and virgin airline.
Lol calling actions with genuine and positive intentions to influence others and in this case motivate them for a common good, a psychological manipulation is like calling a drinking straw a stabbing weapon. Like sure it can stab ppl but at that point u are just twisting facts. Like bro y'all got to put less edge on that. Like he probably thinks he is like the omega male and he tells himself he don't need no friends, that it is his choice.
@@flameynoob bless, give it time you will see why lol
@@flameynoob the road to hell is paved with good intentions
@@handlesrstupid123 having a job is hell now
Simon is a prime example that you can make shit loads of money by saying what people want to hear.
Generally, there's no money in truth telling.
how is joshua any different though? he makes a living off shitting on corporate shit
@@omgstoptakingnames You are right. I guess the difference is that Josh doesn't charge tens of thousands of dollars for his videos. I also don't like Simon's delivery. He said a lot but I never felt he said anything.
@@chrispeng5502 I get the feeling he's just shovelling shite and his tone of voice makes my skin crawl. He's incredibly condescending and manipulative. What freaks me out is that I may have worked with him at Ogilvy ...
Who is a prime example? Tonny Robbins ?
"You've been here 8 months..." I was 6 months into my first job and worked on a project that saved the company millions. They gave me a pat on the back. I'm not making an impact ON MY BANK ACCOUNT, THAT'S WHY I QUIT!
I always tell them to run me my cheques
This is why I will NEVER go out my way for a company
I'm the top at my employer multi billion dollar company and we're number 2 in the nation in profits. I spent 8 years honing my skill, blue collar outside, being the best and fastest who knows the most. Just so I could get blamed for something that wasn't my fault and when I defended myself, we're in a union, I was told to quit and find a new job. I bellowed loudly and since then I don't give a single fck about anything that happens there
Still work there lol
If you can come up with a plan that saves the company millions, you can more than likely create your own path and work for yourself. Good luck in your future!
A pat on the back after making millions🙉
You've created the channel I wanted to have created 7 yrs ago, except I cared too much about offending people around me that I was too vulnerable to. Keep up the good work.
As an extremely patient person, I can say from extensive personal experience that few people ever notice that you are patient. Few people realize you are being patient and thinking of them- most people are self-absorbed and think you just don’t notice how terrible they are being
Simon reminds me of the first dude to get killed in any dystopian future movie
Lmaoo
or the first guy to disappear on a place like China just like how Jack Ma criticized the financial situation in the country
That's because he's the type of guy that thinks knowledge isn't worth anything if it's from the internet and not an official government approved institute
Those who watch my videos will survive the Communist dystopia that is about to come
Don't be Simon Sinek
Nice one mate hah
So true
As an engineer, I really appriciate your technical breakdown of this man's style of talking. I've met people like him and they trigger my intuition to throw up a red flag of distrust. Now I have a better understanding why.
The guy is another Tony Robbins, who made money selling books on how to be successful. Now he's peddling real estate and BTC, another hack.
this is exactly how i feel about John Maxwell's development courses...
@@korratheaustralianshepherd5804 One of Maxwell's books was one of the very first self-development books I read over 10 years ago. Fast forward to today, I've realized that all of these millions of self-development books that exist basically just contain the same content, and most of it is really just common sense too.
@@wuzumaki couldn't be more true
Or maybe just throw up....
Back at my first job they made us watch Simon Sinek. Specifically the video where he talks about how millenials quit too early. Being a fresh graduate I totally believed his words and powered through the job despite it being the most grueling, exploitative, and anxiety-inducing job I've ever been to. I quit after 6 months because I couldn't take it anymore. I would have done so earlier if not for the CEO actually threatening to ruin our reputation if we "broke our promise" of working for the company at least a year. I realize now that they made us watch that vid because of the high turnover rate with that company. Some even quit without notice a week after being hired.
Imagine having high turnover and thinking it's an entire generation's fault rather than looking at your own processes and your own management practices to see what can be improved. Glad you got out of there
I just turned 50 and see how your generation is getting screwed with greasy snake oilers like him using his nice articulate words. Good on you! Go with your instincts
I can't believe some people consider 8 month as such short time... I stayed at a shitty job for 6 months and I regret not quitting sooner.
Wow, you did think things might improve and be less shit after learning the workings of the job after 6 months, but I good you tried to stay and thought you should have left earlier.
Oh man, I hear that. I stayed in a shit job for nearly two years (it took that long to finish my degree and find a better job). I knew after three months I wanted to quit.
I literally just quit the worst (but highest paying) job of my life a couple weeks ago.
After 2 months of drowning I knew I hated that job
@@SaneetBonde-kn2ye aviation mechanic at a place called VT Aerospace for UPS.
Worst aviation mechanic job you can find. No job security. Everything about maintenance is sketchy. UPS does not care about quality.
I hate UPS now. American is the same way and so is Delta
Alaska and Southwest are the best aviation companies with the best maintenance programs. Remember that
As long as they keep paying me I’ll keep coming. 😂😂😂
This is the most unexpected + brutal takedown of a modern influenza, ever.
Best possible summary of the video😂
@Dog Mutt nano is superior tho 👍🏽
And a very bad one. Read his books before you judge the cover.
@@JazzyArtKL he fulfills all the criteria of a modern influenza, I guess you fell for it:
1. talk with your hands and use expressive inflection to project confidence
2. ask the audience questions
3. share a personal anecdote to make the material feel personal
4. appeal to authority
5. throw out statistics and data
6. use images
7. build intensity, then bring it down
8. dress the part
9. change the tone from lighthearted to heavier near the end
10. connect the end of the speech to the beginning
@@cryptodeveloper Again. Did you read any of his books? Or only watched his YT vids? All the points you address here are not dismissing his message. Dig deeper.
First off...the dude doing the interview is a complete tool. Tried to watch a few of his interviews and just couldn't do it. Second, I've spent 25 years in corporate America. Anyone that thinks these big giant companies give a rat's azz about your personal development and happiness is absolutely clueless. Like Josh says...treat a job as an exchange of work for payment and nothing else and you'll be better for it.
And be VERY careful what you ask for. Even if you are getting f*cked in the ear, that may be the price of food/clothing/shelter for the foreseeable future.
That's how to get ahead in your career. 🙄
He´s a name dropper. It´s all status building for him. Run as far away from people like this as you can. You are worthless to them unless you are someone "important".
I'd love to hear musk tell him "you suck" to his face
Simon is a con, plain and simple. He knows what to say to make the bag he wants. Easy work. Also, when ever I hear someone complain about the younger generation, just ask who raised them lol
Exactly
One of the C-suite in the company I work for played a Sinek video in the last department update... My eyes rolled so hard I am pretty sure I could have powered China if you attached a motor to my eyeballs.
Do you also do proverbs? I could use a book of snarky ones if you'd write it down in a book for me
you should sue them for mobbing
My last job played one of his interviews too and I did the same. The boss that played it was cool but ironically he quit a few months later. LOL
I worked at a company that started their vision & mission training with a Sinek video. I updated my resume and starting applying to new jobs as soon as the “training” was over.
soooooo.....? what did you learrrrrnnnnnnn?! hahahaha!!😂😂
Wish there was a different saying for this, but Josh, you're doing God's work. Corporate worship should be considered a mental illness. As you said, your company workers are not your family, bro or sister, or parents. That's sick and how people are not laughed out of the room is beyond me.
People aren't laughed out of the room because they are afraid to lose their job. If everyone was a millionaire, this corporate culture wouldn't exist because it wouldn't work.
I couldn’t say this any better. Josh, we’re listening. SINEK IS A SHAM
That raises a question for me. Since when did people start worshipping corporates like this?
News flash: God has more important things to concern Itself with than what ever petty crap is happening in the Universe. Imagine God is a very hot, young woman and how she won't give you the time of day if you had the courage to ask her out. Mentally ill people are every single person, past, present, and future because there is no such thing as "normal".
@@InvestLarge it's a turn of a phrase you idiot. I don't literally mean Josh is a pious holy man.
In Japanese bad corporate world, middle management is blamed for destroying companies.
They do just enough to be safe in their positions.
And you need spend you "free" time with your boss and play golf with him. All for the boss.
Maybe not the hardest job skill-wise but it's a hard job psychologically because if you push the talent they'll hate you but if you don't push the talent the bosses will hate you.
I’m so thankful I found your channel. I felt like I was going crazy. Nobody else on UA-cam has ever really addressed these issues before.
We are blamed for being addicted to our phones but are praised for working for companies that monetize that addiction.
Simon: wishful thinking
Josh: straight up
Josh got his own blindspots
@@beretaniastreet6384 all people do. Could you be more specific about Josh btw?
@@ontheline3077 After two weeks Beretania Street has no replied to your question. Wonder if he/she has an answer? 🤔
@@ontheline3077 josh only points out the negatives of working at corporations but never provide a solutions or at least he focused on way less of that. It's easy to rant on topics people wants to hear but it's difficult points at possible solutions.
@@nte2336
"never provided solutions"
And that will change something? We can rant in this comment section about what we can change, but none of us have the power to change anything, those who do have that power, are not listening anyway.
It's best to just warn people of the negatives so that they make more educated decisions.
And often times, he does give solutions.
- Work from home? Just let people decide where they want to work, and if their performance suffers, talk to them and if it doesn't work out, let them go.
- Teambuilding? Avoid it, make it optional and don't punish the employees for not attending.
- "Corporate parties" and ridiculous "Company perks"? Just give people more money, a lot of those "perks" are often not real perks.
He does provide solutions, not his fault you're not willing to listen.
Imagine the Josh Ted talk epic and savage
I would watch it. 😍
They'd never invite Josh to do a Ted Talk. Donors wouldn't like it.
Maybe Josh should make a fake Ted talk to make fun of them too. Like parody.
Oh man I really want to watch it now!!!!
@@noelle7287 I’d watch Josh’s fake Ted Talk!
Lesson learned: Start your own thing. Disagreements in any corporate and your out faster than you can blink.
It’s really interesting to hear an American perspective on work culture and dynamics. I’m from Norway and, from my personal experience at least, I have only worked under good bosses and with a good work culture. Here, it is illegal to fire someone without proof that you have done something actually wrong and haven’t changed after receiving several warnings. And even then, you are obligated to have two months notice. Our minimum wage is great and leader-follower culture is rather flat, i.e. your boss asks you for advice and such.
Anyone had similar experiences in your respective country?
I lived in Finland and there is a very different work culture.
And Trump says we should accept immigrants from Norway not $hithole countries
Man I might move to one of these european countries if I find the motivation to speak the language.
In my country it is also illegal to fire people without justification, there must be reports of bad behavior or non-compliance, but if you are fired without justification they have to give you compensation for the years worked plus 3 months of salary. This is why I have seen many companies make their employees renew their contracts every few months and if they already have long-term employees they will do everything possible to pressure them into resigning. Currently, work is being done to make these illegal practices, but while it happens, I always advise the people I know to runaway from these types of companies.
I was in the military. I've had good leaders who utilized the talents of their subordinates and who put their comforts last. When I became a Sgt, I did the same thing. In the corporate world, leaders are more like managers. Managers here sometimes have a 'do as I say, not as I do' attitude.
He just says a bunch of cliche stuff. He's basically the status quo. He's the type that would force me to accept a gift card with a smile on my face. He acts like Chick-fil-A when they're low key threatening their employees livelihoods.
Yep them gift cards, to the company's own stores so they can keep the money in circulation and not out of their pocket
A 5 dollar starbucks card for working overnight.
Chic-fil-A? Haven’t heard anything about it. ?
The workers don't want to be handing out gift cards either
My old employer paid a couple of employees in gift cards once.
I did not notice that, but Simon sound like type of prosperity preacher. He preach what the people wants to hear.
America is filled with people like him...they're worshiped and idolized
@@kwamebushman606 It’s from America’s Calvinist roots: You’re rich because God chose you.
9:59... about "asking questions" that's perhaps one of the riskiest things you can do in many organizations which have a rigid power hierarchy. The reason Sinek could do it in his anecdote while surrounded by "C-levels" is that they were PAYING HIM HANDSOMELY as consultant outsider to actually "ask questions." It sounds all touchy-feely when he says it, but those warm-fuzzies are NOT intended for you, the worker, (unless you're watching Sinek on youtube and he's getting the clicks) they're intended for the suits who will pay BIG money to feel warm-fuzzies.
In reality, as a worker, you will NEVER have a seat in a conference room surrounded by C-levels who are there to listen to what you are saying. Your questions, if you dare ask them and they ever bubble to the top, will get filtered through a thick layer of stubborn incurious managers who are apt to shut you down or dismiss your question, or sometimes you. That said asking questions can absolutely be a noble and necessary thing to do. But first, make sure it's worth the risk because you are really sticking your neck out.
I can verify what you're saying. Now, my old company would bring the workers in... We did the whole Lean Manufacturing thing, with (at one point) monthly Kaisan meetings. A week-long show. They tolerate you giving your ideas, opinions, thoughts, etc, but they're immediately thrown into the circular file as soon as you walk out the door.
Dude, I love you. Some months back when I discovered your channel, I thought you were nuts for putting yourself on the line like you do. But, you stuck to your guns and I'm so glad you're successful here. Amazing!!
“We have patience, we just don’t have time for your bullshit” great line. Sell that for 2M views
"We have patience, we just don't have time for your bulsh*t" 😂 You just roasted one of my best authorities. It was so hilarious to watch😄 thank you, top content. Changed my mind very drastically.
"We have patience, we just don't have time for your bullshit" - exactly.
What’s amazing is how many motivational you tubers look up to this guy.
It would be great to see you and Simon have a debate about his philosophies it would be really interesting
“Let me give you an example...” - “ No your cliché argument doesn’t need an example, thanks.”
I already wasted my time listening to your cliche arguments, spare me your example
Let me tell you a story.
I’m sure people prefer your cynicism 😂😂😂😂
The best bosses (I hate the term leader) are the ones that take the blame for your mistakes, and then crap you out in private.
Totally agree
Why hate the term leader? Leaders, good ones only of course, are actually important. They teach you a lot of life lessons
@@livery955 It's become a corporate buzzword (here at least), that's thrown around far too liberally. The idea being that we can all be leaders within our domains of work.
Also, no one likes to think of themselves as a follower, but we can't all be leaders either.
So, it has become a BS word to try make people feel better about eating shit everyday from crappy bosses.
@@shaunk6822 Yeah I was also saying that leadership in its archetypal or academic sense should be about being able to direct the team to solve problems and bring people together positively, but we all know in real life, they're mostly a bunch of self-serving assholes that will throw employees under the bus to save theirs or company's profits.
@@livery955 leader is a euphemism for boss, used by bosses who are trying to manipulate you in some way
I always hate how they don't speak straight and simple, you have to listen to an hour talk to get 2 or 3 concepts. Using a lot of words doesn't make you more intelligent
Well, there is a correlation between IQ and vocabulary, but yeah, this is often a case of bullshit baffles brains
But using a lot of words is sure good if you charge by the hour.
This is also a throwback to older 20th Century college "Compositions" where word count was a requirement. I LOVE short essays that get straight to the point after researching topics using the writings of college professors and their "word salads."
Watched that video about millennials and I fucking Believed it 😭 even so I changed my first job after 8 months and got 37%+ in salary + remote forever 😹 josh you’re a life saver.
I love this video. No matter how many fake accounts I go through, I always end up back here at least once. This is your best work, Josh.
My personal favorite:
Sinake Oil: "leadership is bla bla bla bla bla"
Josh: "leadership is you do what I say or your fired."
You're a god damn modern day philosopher.
"We have patience, we just don't have time for your bullshit." ...Nailed it.
I sure as hell wasn't told I was special. I worked my ass off. :/
And you’re the best barista I’ve ever come across!
Factsss. My ex ‘parents’/‘upper management’ fired me for having a wrinkled shirt 1 month before my first child. I was outpacing all other co workers productivity. That happens 2 years ago I taught myself to code and built my own SAAS. They don’t care for you. Don’t try to fool urself otherwise.
This is AWESOME! I've been listening to Simon more and more as I try to figure out how things went so incredibly bad with my last job (I'm a nurse accused of insubordination for voicing safety concerns). I really started to feel like he could not relate in any way to the "common worker" but he's so famous. You nailed it. He says a lot about nothing of meaning. Thanks for this.
Simon: I dont understand very complicated things
Josh: True
Me: ROASTED 🤣🤣🤣
There are two thing you should take in High School: drama and debate. That pretty much takes care of everything Sinek says you should go to college to learn.
Hey Josh, I took a break from watching your videos but came back here in a moment of career crisis, and this content is full of gems. I love this line, "we know the value of patience, we just don't have time for your bullshit!".
Thanks for speaking out about this stuff, keep it up!
Great video and comments, Joshua! :) Simon Sinek is the perfect example of the "I wrote a book or two about something so I really MUST be an expert" level of attitude, all neatly packed up, carefully communicated and presented with faked sincerity. You can see the slick ex-advertising executive hack from far away, if one know how to look for the signs.
Thank you. The more I watch your videos. The more I am sick of corporations and those kind of speeches. The more I am happy to have switched to an independent consulting position. I just do my job, and I am paid for it. Period. And yeah, it feels good. So thanks.
"Awww! My boss just made me work an infinite number of hours.....must be the infinite mindset?"
LMAO. You win this comment section. No contest.
A Crazy UA-cam or conference idea... get Simon and Josh in a live discussion forum. I would pay to see that (if i could afford it).
I'd bring the popcorn!
And chocolate covered pretzels.
Live stream. Call out Simon's bullshit and explain reality to him.
definitely
OMG God yes
Great job, this is the best way to make yourself as famous as Simon. Keep going.
He is right about the "you need good leaders" to be happy at your job . You work for a truly bad leader one time and you will know it's true, but you ever stumble on a good a decent leader you work under you should be thankful...because they are rare
The majority of motivational speakers will make you think to blame yourself for not being successful despite there being outside factors and variables that contribute to success. This guy points out that there are things out of your control and it’s not your fault if you’re not successful, but tells you not to do anything about it. Just lie face down or grab your ankles and hope for the best.
Mental Masturbation "The act of engaging in useless yet intellectually stimulating conversation, usually as an excuse to avoid taking constructive action in your life."Aka Simon Sinek.
@Adam Dunstan Well according to studies that are too nonexistent for me to cite, experts are finding that people's time just isn't that productive lately. However, I'm here to say that it's not their fault!
I have a better plan, use your time while on corporate clock to go to sleep and then go home fully recharged to work side hustle business. Make your life more profitable!
that's a good one!
@Adam Dunstan Productivity is SO overrated!!! You can be the most productive being and employers will still argue that you can improve yourself. Simon Sinek is the kinda guy who gets all of the accolades for doing essentially nothing. He convinced everyone that he's awesome.
In Spanish: " chaquetas mentales" 😉
Hey Josh you’re creating the Cult of Joshua Fluke. Dude I can’t stop watching your vids LMAO 😂 keep it up Master Guru, keep it up
idk, I guess I get what you are saying but at least "start with why" helped me get a direction in my career, get in an industry and company aligned with my personal values and beliefs, and that way I was able to achieve more with less spent energy, and feel good about my work, and making work not feel like a drag. This in turn lead me to more career opportunities and I am more satisfied than I was at my past jobs, having more energy to spend outside my job.
If we are all leaders and all followers, then there is not any leader or follower; just chickens running aimlessly with our heads cut off.
Or chickens chasing the eggs which are chasing chickens
Sounds like the daily zoom meetings at my job
@@VolcanicPenguin hahaha I hear you bro
Oh my gosh he always annoyed me and I couldn’t tell why thank you for this video. The tactic of a very aloof relaxed person still advocating for a thankless and back-breaking workload just with a positive attitude NEEDS to look more concerning to people instead of having the power to guilt us. Thank you for calling this out because I feel like most people view this rhetoric as so positive and harmless.
Burst into laughter when Josh laughed at simon saying that I am an idiot and I don't understand complicated things.
I tried to implement Simon’s ideals and fundamentals. As a Branch manager who manages over 100 employees I thought I had the influence on the business. My area manager, RVP and HR rep were all offended and I was asked to just do my job. Take the fall for everything and take none of the credit. I was put on a PIP even after setting record profits.
On the point of disagreeing with university lecturers. I did once, as a lecturer had a sociology theory completely back to front. You don’t get thanks or even recognition. The woman went silent and just straight up looked at me like I went in her house on Xmas day and p*ssed on her kids!!!!!
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Nowadays she would get you expelled for being "combative" or something.
Maybe you should've been taking science classes instead of sociology. I've never had that problem, my professors are typically grateful for any corrections by the students, It means they are paying attention.
@@aeroscience9834 You also get a degree that can get you a job.
@@aeroscience9834 You have to take certain classes to fulfill requirements. You should actually be taking classes that you wouldn't normally encounter in your major because you might end up broadening your mind and learn something new. This is actually one of the benefits to college.
Ironically most of Joshua's videos are addressing problems that a sociologist works on so I'm not sure why you are shitting on them here.
Hi from Finland, i am studying toward medical physicist certification, in finland de facto requirement is phd in physics and 5 years on the job training in a hospital after your masters degree, you do your phd while at the hospital in paid training. This degree is free plus you get government money for living and stuff up until your masters when you transition to paid on the job training phase. I feel its worth it for me to go to college for this under these circumstances. I would also say do not pay single dollar for some bs gender studies degree. If you live in a place where you have to pay for college learn something useful and hard.
Yep. My engineering degree is from Finland as well.
Josh, you’re my favourite UA-camr on corporate stuff. You always tell the TRUTH and have no incentive to say anything else.
I think there's a lot of misunderstanding here. I mean Simon is not 100% right, yet he is not 100% wrong either.
Agreed. There’s much truth to what he speaks. There’s also much truth to the legendary methods of Jack Welch which Simon straight disagrees with.
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You need to write a book about real work life strategies, Josh !
Funny how these "motivational" speakers always work for themselves. If being a worker drone is such a noble calling why is he doing the opposite?
If you ask this, you didn't actually understand what hes saying. Maybe you do nowadays but who knows.
Simon manages to say cringe stuff in the most authentic way possible. Hell even after i knew what he is saying is bs i still feel a likeablity towards him just cause of the way he speaks.
Edit: just saw that he charges $98000 for "training". K now he just appears as an asshole to me.
Another one of my Pet Peeves with Sinek is his obsession with generational differences. ‘You need to do THIS to keep millennials happy’ or ‘baby boomers need THIS to enjoy the workplace’.
Maybe just pay people what they worth. The whole generational thing is to try get away with paying young people less by claiming they care less about money and instead value beanbags, table tennis and office plants.
That’s what many young people say they value. If the value $. Then just say it. Corps know how to deal with that, it’s the constant whining about making a difference that gets them riled up.
You’re 21, you just accepted a job in marketing for Nike shoes, what fuck kinda difference you think you were gonna make outside of selling more merch?
Man, I got leadership classes at my university. We watched the simon sinek famous ted talk. Man, usually it's just common sense but just written on a book "be a good person, be good with yourself, have empathy,etc"
"We know the value of patience, we just don't have time for your bullshit."
Spot on. From what I've seen, every time a Boomer or Gen Xer complains about Millennial "entitlement," what they really mean is "Millennials won't put up with abuse."
We Millennials are shrewd. We know a raw deal and want no part of it. We know how the game is played, and we play it to our advantage, not the advantage of the company. That's why they're so mad.
Simon Sinek is like those Onlyfans women. They show you what you want to see, but they don't show you actual reality.
Hope my doctor and structural engineer learn their skills in college.... Not want to die on operation table or on a bridge that crumbles under the weight....
Well, they learned how to budget and fold laundry.
A lot of America's infrastructure was built by self-taught engineers before the college degree and accreditation was required. Most of it still standing. The job skills don't come from college, the college got the job skills they are trying to teach from the self-taught and apprenticed engineers.
@@gorkyd7912 Yes and the self taught engineers learned it by trial and error. Then they made a program so the people not need to learn it by trial and error and can do it right from the first time. Next time I need a doctor I will just believe any person that says I'm self taught and know what I am doing. Same when I need construction done... How could that ever go wrong.
I appreciate what you're doing. Corporations and start ups need to change
In the software space my experience is if you’re really good at writing code you likely will never be promoted to management, who will be paid more than you.
These gurus say the most obvious shit and get standing ovations.
You, Mr. Fluke, are THE "motivational speaker" for those of us who are "self-employed" 🙏.... Thanks.
Smoke and mirrors. Toxic positivity. It's cute that the guy who gets almost $100K per training thinks we should base our success on something besides our ability to generate income. I somehow don't feel like he's really dedicated himself to that ideal.
In a crowd of boomers shouting lazy you're the voice of reason, thank you Joshua...
"Sinek oil salesman" well done Josh. ROFL
"We're putting them in corporate environments where they care more about the numbers than they do about the kids."
"Do not blame them [the boss]." 🥴
20 minutes in he is suggesting that college is training wheels for real life and somehow suggesting that that is worth tens of thousands of dollars
Today's marketing = brainwashing
I suspect Simon gets a lot of speaking gigs at colleges.
and on top of that: These kids parents are the ones that should have taught them about laundry and other life skills as well as putting the kids in situations so they become socialized.
"Leaders eat last" is from the military, specifically the Marines. Sinek didn't make up the concept, nor does he claim to. The idea is to transfer the concept to the corporate world.
I don't agree with all of your points of view, but you've developed a sense of realism and a BS detector that takes people decades, if ever, to develop. Kudos to you.
"We have patient, just not time for your bullshit" is a pretty nice quote
Notice how Simon always keeps on going until his interviewer is nodding and shaking his head to validate what he is saying.
"we have patience, but we just don't have time for your bullshit" the most honest claim ever made by a youtuber. Bravo!
If a Pentagon General who has been battle tested and hardened and gone through the best training in the world suddenly needs to meet with someone like Simon Sinek, tells you that Simon is a delusional snake oil salesman with elusive marketing techniques for storytelling or that the state of US military leadership is a disgrace, or JUST BOTH!
I love you Joshua and I love Sinek Sinon too. I am not living in America, so I don't know what the reality is. But because I love both of you, I won't react in one way or another. You two inspire me dailly. Keep up the great work guys!
To be honest Josh, when I heard the first 5 minutes of the video, I was deadset against what you were saying because I think Simon was helping change corporate America. But your argument changed my mind. The undermining problem is the power structure of companies. Remember the story you brought up about how to raise your hand and the advice given is, if you feel like a idiot, raise your hand anyway. The problem isn't the employee raising his hand or not that is the problem. The problem is they were SCARED to raise their hand in the first place, because they don't want to get fired or viewed in a different light by their boss.
The bottom line is everyone is here to earn a paycheck to live, not live their bosses dream vision.
It's not that simple. Good pay is necessary, but if there is a vision the employees can buy into, how is that not better than a good paycheck on its own? What happened to new employees wanting to "make an impact?"
Exactly!! very well said: taking simple ideas, over complicate them and then breaking them down
I worked a summer job at a factory. They literally had the values and the "why" of the company written on the walls. I was getting paid minimum wage to stand at the same spot and close packages all day. Fuck your why.
Church of Corporate is becoming creepier with every new guru
the way to ascend is to take a pay cut and work more hrs, praise be to the CEO and his shareholders
Thx for enlightening me. I believed his shit for years.
Glad you made a video about this guy. Every once in a while some clip of his popped up and it's almost always wrong
My weird “empath” aunt sent me his video about empathy after we got into an argument. I had feeling it was feel good nonsense.
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I read Start With Why a few years ago because it was recommended to me by someone I respected at the time. All I really remember about it was coming away thinking “wow, this was a masterclass on writing a best selling book without saying anything at all”
change starts with you simon, offer your time for free and help others
He does
@@S__Kay how? All you are doing in this comment thread is defend Simon without elaborating. GTFO
@@jimmyrustles914 Thank you for the kind words. He doesn't mind charging big companies a lot because that allows him to work pro bono with the military and some educational organizations. I hope that answers your question. And yeah, I will GTFO. This thread is toxic
@@S__Kay Go cry then
It’s sick how they market “family” but discard family like garbage. It’s a business transaction stop the BS.
Infinite Mindset = Corporate speak for Infinite Growth in an Finite system.