Fun fact about the Charged Perforator: Its log file is a 1:1 copy of the Molten Perforator, except with lightning instead of fire, and the researcher pauses for a dance break at the end. This is because it's the Perforator 2: Electric Boogaloo.
@@mellotomevoices actually, in ror1 we learn that the parents age into children, and then i think into grandparents? either way it's deceptive, the parents turn into the children, and overall they start as parents, so that IS a parent in the egg
@acquaintedfowl1767 I think it is actually parent->grand parent->child from youngest to oldest. They're supposed to mimic the phases of a sun: normal sized (parent) which eventually becomes super massive (grand parent) and finally collapses into a small form (child).
Knurl is weird just because it feels like it'd be extremely easy to make this item better. Just have it increase HP by a percentage instead of a flat 40. Like a 25% increase or something would instantly turn it into one of the better health items in the game. Edit: or even a 10% like pearl on top of the regeneration
Genesis loop isn't really meant to be exploited by staying below 25%. It's meant as an "oopsie daisy I'm about to die, better kill everything in the room" panic button. Though your point that you shouldn't get there in the first place is fair enough.
Tbh the no frills hp regen from knurl can be really op. Cautious slug doesn't increase regen in combat, where you'll be most of the time, while knurl just, let's you have it. Amazing early game sustain if you can get it.
@@ceddavis7441 That's a fair point, Knurl is never really going to be something you're SERIOUSLY upset with, I just understand the point that compared to a lot of others it kinda becomes insignificant in due time.
4:37 FYI it is pronounced "hal-see-on " Also the bleed from Shatterspleen counts as a separate debuff from Tri-tipped Daggers making it PERFECT for Deathmark.
@@omengod1 It is until you get Needletick. Shattersleen will be your only source of bleed damage while the needletick will play its role with Collapse.
Guess I should have read the comments before I commented, said the same damn thing lol. I long for the halcyon days when I had not heard his pronunciation.
Aurelionite is NOT a time sink, unless you're specifically a speedrunner that cares about real time, not about in-game time, which is what actually matters in the game, because time doesn't move in the Gilded Coast. Which means, if you have the money and you CAN get it, it's Aurelionite plus 4 chests for free. If you had to farm money for the portal, it's 4 chests and Aurelionite for the price of 8 chests and time needed to get the money.
@@Desktopped Except time doesn't move in the Gilded coast. So his point stands precisely - it only matters if you care about out-of-game time. Detouring to the Gilded Coast won't cost you any extra difficulty, and it's a huge boon to have in the Mithrix fight.
@Desktopped I'm fairly certain that the seed can be re-rolled at a yellow printer, which translates into a better yellow item, plus, gilded coast is a decent place to get some levels because of the rapid spawn rate of enemies that drop a decent amount of money. (forgive any false information, I don't have the dlc yet 😅)
I think he was meaning a time sink as in real life time. I don't know this for sure, but he did mention that it could take up to 20 minutes to complete the gilded coast and if that were to give me a mediocre boss item and four items, I wouldn't want to spend me real life time doing that. I don't know for sure and if you did know this I'm sorry for wasting your time! :)
@@flaming9072aurelionite takes a huge load off your back (🤨) during teleporter as someone who has the dlc and has golden e8 (but holy shit I would rather do a defense nucleus and polyp only run that golden artificer again)
I remember going for the memes on stage 1 once and picking up Egocentrism then on stage 2 I found a Lunar Cleansing Pool, which was basically an Irradiant Pearl farm at that point, since I was careful to not pick up Irradiant Pearls until they were all that was on the ground and until I stopped farming for them.
I tried to cleanse a bunch of egocentrisms this way once, but after looping I didn't find any cleansing pools. I *did* however find many healing statue things.
@@ap1evideogame44 I mean, it's definitely not a viable strategy, as Cleansing Pools seem rare and I'm pretty sure they're map-specific, but when it happens, it's incredibly cool.
@@yvaskhmir yeah, they're rare, but it's supposed to be five times as likely on Aphelian Sanctuary, which is where I went. Maybe things simply spawn differently as you loop more.
Are we sure the aphelian sanctuary not spawning lunar buds is a bug? I thought it was a lore reason. The sanctuary was a place created by providence as a place to rid creatures of afflictions, with his brother's lunar items also being an unwelcomed influence on the planet.
@@louisgunstone723 the problem is they intended for that, but the game actually will still try to spawn the pods, so it wastes the stage credits and spawns nothing
Aurelionite is also more worth it the more players there are I find, since Halcyon seed scales from all players inventory just like Lepton Daisies, playing 4 player the boss drops 1 item per player on defeat, getting 4 Halcyons per gilded coast tends to make one boss of an Aurelionite. But that is a niche that multiplayer really brings.
@@aquamarinerose5405 Time does stand still in the gilded coast, but progressing to the next stage(including to, and from, Gilded coast) causes enemies to scale faster against you, which is why it's hit or miss on whether you should go there sometimes.
@@bananagher7555 5 items from the cost, with an 8 chest cost, is pretty good for a tool that draws aggro in the most useful times (Bosses) and protects you from your own item synergies killing you in Mythrix. Bonus points if you use the teleporter event money to open chests reducing the cost of this even further.
@@jakethesnake9484 flashback to the time I got three clovers in one run. I don't even have them unlocked, I was just the last person standing in a multiplayer game.
Or, and this is a stretch, having Optical HUD and 1 Gesture of the Drowned and then a combined total of 9 more Gestures of the drowned and Fuel Cells, and you can have 100% crit chance in conjunction with the Lost Seer's Lenses
The thing is with Pearls, they boost ALL hp gains by 10%. So, if you have 2 pearls and pick up an Infusion, that’s 120 hp per stack instead of 100, or 48 hp on a Knurl. It’s even more bonkers on the irradiant because you apply that logic to EVERYTHING. Move speed, attack speed, jump height… whenever an item gives you any stats, irradiant pearl makes it give you even more value.
Your channel (along with Race's) has been awesome as I've jumped headfirst into playing this game the past couple months. Just beat my first E8 this morning thanks to y'all! Keep up the great work
The cool down for genesis loop is correct. It says every 30/(2+1 per stack). 30/2 is 15 and if you get another it becomes 30/3 which is 10. The +1 per stack is for the denominator of the devision.
Aphelion Sanctuary not spawning lunar pods almost makes sense from a lore perspective. Since it has the most cleansing pools, the denizens there probably cared a lot about removing Mithrix's influence from the area. One could imagine them quickly opening every lunar pod and cleansing the item whenever one landed, hence why you don't see any.
Empathy Cores is bonkers if you're adamant about picking up drones as you play the game. And they can solo mithrix if you happen upon a spare drone parts. My only gripe about em is that they constantly boop you while standing still/scrapping >.
hello grandpa disputed i would like to tell you that i have told my little sister about you and now she is a big fan of risk of rain races and has been very motivated in getting every character to eclipse 8 despite being a console player and i would like to thank you for creating yet another certified risk of rain gamer
2:35 Good thing is, when you get it, you have a bunch of useless yellow items to replace with anything that is not a knurl or a defense nucleus when you find a printer.
Listen grandpa I know it’s hard to pronounce things without your dentures but for future reference “halcyon” is pronounced “Hal-see-on”. Thanks for the content Gramps
This video is somehow the way I learned that railgunner can shoot multiple times if you have backup mags, I thought they were just a complete waste of a white item. Thanks I guess?
Meta makes ror2 a bit less fun, silly builds and items like genesis loop coming in clutch when you don't expect it is really fun especially with friends
Bruh how could you not mention that the shatterspleen synergizes with needle tick? Shatterspleen lets you get back the ability to bleed, so you can have both collapse and bleed potential.
@@shaunhayes3072Tf do you mean counter synergy? 2 debuffs instead of 1. you can't get both a shatterspleen and a tri tip bleed at the same time, but you can shatterspleen and collapse at the same time
@@ThePizzabrothersGamingSpleen and tri-tips actually stack bleed independently of each other, so characters that can use bleed would rather be getting 2 stacks of bleed per hit than 1 bleed and 1 collapse
I've always felt that knurl and defense nucleus are bad because they do not provide the player with the special attack of the boss they just killed, you know, like every other boss item does? Knurl could easily be made viable in the early game if it shot out a golem laser (the burst damage kind) at random nearby enemies on a 10 second cooldown, which reduces hyperbolically with each additional stack. This on top of the health boosts. Nucleus could be fixed in a similar way by making it more consistent. Remove the on-kill shengai spawns, put it on a timer. If you tank a hit that wipes out more than 25% of your health in a single damage instance, you gain a shield similar to the xi ping, which provides jade elephant damage reduction for 3 seconds and overrides the shengai spawn time to only 1 second for 5 seconds. This 25% hp lost in one instance of damage thing can also be applied to penis loop, so that it is useable at theoretically every point of your hp bar as long as it is not below 25%. This makes it not reward bad gaming, but mistakes that humans would eventually make, like walking into a blazing elite mushrum's acid pool because you were curious if the acid and fire would stack (they obviously would you fucking idiot why did I do that ruined such a good run)
Aurelionite has actually gotten me killed before. During the final phase of Mithrix where he steals all ypur items, not getting hit is rypically best to avoid things like ATGs or ukes. Aureltionate got hit, Mithrix activated uke I believe, and I died for it.
One thing about titanic knurl is that since it boosts life regen, it boosts acrid self healing from the third hit of the primary fire and the bite secondary, since those count as regeneration and not actual healing
Once on a run I got two drone parts on stage one, empathy cores on stage four, and defense nucleus on stage five. Combine that with a bunch of drones and my army was unstoppable
Molten Perforator is a funny one, because ot can literally be a run ender if your machine (or Switch) can't handle it. I was having one of those lv +20 runs and accidently picked it up and ended up quitting out of it when I was now periodically going a dozen seconds or more per frame thanks to all the additional visual clutter that wasn't even hitting anything.
Good ranking, would agree overall with most of the placings. One question though, where would you place newly hatched Zoa in this list if you were to include it. While it’s not a yellow item, I’d consider it a boss item since it corrupts all yellow items.
Probably below empathy cores: 1) The ally spawns are very strong by themselves alongside having an insta wipe martyrdom effect, but that detain will also wipe you if you're not careful 2) Because it corrupts ALL boss items, its actual value may vary by run. On one hand, it would suck so much to lose a shatterspleen or perforator. On the other hand, shungite can be just free zoea stacking.
nah as a engineer main, my favorite and the yellow which im always looking to get is the jellyfish yellow and it just feels good when it happens and can help in times of need. Also its very op on the turrets you can make (for engineer)
Coming from your other vids most of your commentary was pretty clean so to hear the plain, deadpan delivery of “…if ya like fuckin’ and suckin’ mirred urn is for you” caught me totally off guard.
Something I feel you missed with Shatterspleen was that the Crit bleed it applies is counted as separate from Tri-Tip Needle bleeds. So, on proc builds on characters like Commando and Captain can apply 2 stacks of bleed per hit, instead of 1. Not huge or anything, but it does just make it even stronger than you described for those sorts of characters. Also, yeah, it can take a while to get the Halcyon Seed in real time (especially if you're unlucky have get bad items), but while you're in the Gilded Coast, the timer doesn't move, so you effectively get a free boss enemy to aid you for teleporters and 4 chests for free, in terms of the in-game timer.
ngl I have a newfound love for the Halcyon seed recently. a couple days ago I had a godlike monsoon run where the game, for some reason, gave me around 4 chances to go to gold coast. combined with my run where I had a mod that added an item called the "Relic of Termination" (Tldr, spawn a buffed enemy that guaranteed drops an item if you kill it fast enough) that triggered on Aurelionite which tripled the drop of the Halcyon seed on my first trip(but just killing her when she was buffed up like that was pain)... by the time I got to Mitherix, I had 7 of them and when she showed up in phase 3... I actually forgot I had 7 of them, barely processed she spawned, and then watched as she kicked Mitherix's teeth in as I die of laughter. Doubt I'll get a run like that in a long time.
i find the grandparent more difficult than the xi construct. yes, the gap has closed as i learned how to deal with them but you're WAY more likely to be put in a situation where you're just fucked than with xi construct.
Something extra about the planula now that twisted enemies exist! If you have a couple armor plates with it you invalid the entire new elite even turning their power against them if you have an item that is affected by you getting hit
A thing to note about BG is that there is an issue in multiplayer when you enter the Bazaar where the guard will push other players through the floor and the fall damage will kill them. Because of this, it is the worst boss item specifically in eclipse multiplayer.
eh dying in bazaar is not that bad, you respawn in multiplayer next stage anyway, and unless there was a really good red/green and you had scrap for it, youre not missing anything by dying just in the bazaar. also its not like every single time u enter and someone has a bg youll die, it just is a weird bug sometimes. also you can just avoid going to the bazaar if its rlly that big of a deal, only situation i could see this is if someone had a dios or a bunch of watches or something. id still rather have a bg than a defense nucleus in eclipse multiplayer lol
Pre-dlc (on xbox) I was playing bandit and on my second loop, molten and charged perforator caused a proc chain that was a bit buggy, so it spawned an infinite loop of lightning strikes, fireballs and ATG missiles that crashed my game because 10 of each spawned about every frame, causing damage number of 20,000,000 and frame rates of -20,000,000. My xbox crashed.
11:23 its a bug? I always thought that it was intentional. That lorewise the residents of petrichor V have cleansed all traces of Mithrix and items he throws down to the ground
I'm gonna mention this for genesis loop real quick; it's fantastic in simulacrum, I'd argue one of the best yellows for that mode void damage allows you to get below the threshold with significantly more control, it's on your terms when you'd like to activate it, and due to the much tighter enemy density, you essentially wipe the entire map at the low cost of playing inside the void for a bit the anti-synergy with watches and the like is less prominent too since, until you stack enough barrier gain, void runs are going to get you below 25% hp fairly frequently if you intend on minmaxxing (dependent on character though) tl;dr, much more control, much more reward, highly recommend
I've not had a visit to gilded cost take 20 minutes, it is normally 5-10 and the difficulty timer doesn't advance during it. Since there is 4 free chests there it halves the cost to 4 regular chests to enter practically speaking, but the yellow item which is a great anti-boss tool in most cases is at least worth a chest or two making it only practically cost 1-2 chests.
"empathy cores" >attacks me during the entirety of the artifact of chaos fight because I missed a shot and hit them instead. real empathetic guys, thanks.
I've found myself happy to pick up Titanic Knurl on early stage as I'm currently on Eclipse 11. Can't say no to any form of regeneration that isn't halved
gotta say, you did planula dirty. It is basically an anti bleed/fire effect and has saved me many times when I just wasn't fast enough with school bag or coat was on cool down, or I just didn't have them. Also if your going to make it's rank lower by when you get the item then I don't see why Charge Perforator gets a pass there as Overloading Worm is a rarest boss in the game and requires a high difficulty while also having the chance of not dropping a boss item.
I just got jump-scared by a defense nucleus. Truly a new low for me
don’t worry, you’re not alone. I recoil whenever I see it drop in a run too
Gotta love Disrupted’s “no-nonsense” editing
Check this out 0:00
Bacterium when attacking a plant cell
@@jorb333biology joke that’s actually good?
Fun fact about the Charged Perforator: Its log file is a 1:1 copy of the Molten Perforator, except with lightning instead of fire, and the researcher pauses for a dance break at the end. This is because it's the Perforator 2: Electric Boogaloo.
legit thought you were trolling until i looked it up and yep, exactly the same but with electric adjectives and a dance break
I've never noticed Planula had a little Parent inside of it. I always thought it was just a gemstone like thing not an egg with a Parent inside.
yeah i always thought it was like the rock that grandparents drop when they die
I think it's a 2001 reference
I believe that that isn't a parent. That's a child from ror1
@@mellotomevoices actually, in ror1 we learn that the parents age into children, and then i think into grandparents? either way it's deceptive, the parents turn into the children, and overall they start as parents, so that IS a parent in the egg
@acquaintedfowl1767 I think it is actually parent->grand parent->child from youngest to oldest. They're supposed to mimic the phases of a sun: normal sized (parent) which eventually becomes super massive (grand parent) and finally collapses into a small form (child).
Knurl is weird just because it feels like it'd be extremely easy to make this item better. Just have it increase HP by a percentage instead of a flat 40. Like a 25% increase or something would instantly turn it into one of the better health items in the game.
Edit: or even a 10% like pearl on top of the regeneration
Planula is also kinda weird since really if this was something you could actually conceivably stack it would become really good.
Genesis loop isn't really meant to be exploited by staying below 25%. It's meant as an "oopsie daisy I'm about to die, better kill everything in the room" panic button. Though your point that you shouldn't get there in the first place is fair enough.
What if it gave you 10 armor?
Tbh the no frills hp regen from knurl can be really op. Cautious slug doesn't increase regen in combat, where you'll be most of the time, while knurl just, let's you have it. Amazing early game sustain if you can get it.
@@ceddavis7441 That's a fair point, Knurl is never really going to be something you're SERIOUSLY upset with, I just understand the point that compared to a lot of others it kinda becomes insignificant in due time.
4:37 FYI it is pronounced "hal-see-on "
Also the bleed from Shatterspleen counts as a separate debuff from Tri-tipped Daggers making it PERFECT for Deathmark.
i think shatterspleen being a separate debuff was patched out.
I was just about to comment about Halcyon. Then again, I only know that because I played the Outer Worlds XD
@@omengod1 It is until you get Needletick. Shattersleen will be your only source of bleed damage while the needletick will play its role with Collapse.
Guess I should have read the comments before I commented, said the same damn thing lol. I long for the halcyon days when I had not heard his pronunciation.
Also, Aurelioknight is a she...
Titanic Knurl should give you an armor boost. The Colossal Knurl did this in RoR1, I have no idea why they removed it in RoR2.
Aurelionite is NOT a time sink, unless you're specifically a speedrunner that cares about real time, not about in-game time, which is what actually matters in the game, because time doesn't move in the Gilded Coast. Which means, if you have the money and you CAN get it, it's Aurelionite plus 4 chests for free.
If you had to farm money for the portal, it's 4 chests and Aurelionite for the price of 8 chests and time needed to get the money.
taking all that time to get 4 chests and aurelionite is without a doubt a time sink, it's what the word means...
@@Desktopped Except time doesn't move in the Gilded coast. So his point stands precisely - it only matters if you care about out-of-game time. Detouring to the Gilded Coast won't cost you any extra difficulty, and it's a huge boon to have in the Mithrix fight.
@Desktopped I'm fairly certain that the seed can be re-rolled at a yellow printer, which translates into a better yellow item, plus, gilded coast is a decent place to get some levels because of the rapid spawn rate of enemies that drop a decent amount of money. (forgive any false information, I don't have the dlc yet 😅)
I think he was meaning a time sink as in real life time. I don't know this for sure, but he did mention that it could take up to 20 minutes to complete the gilded coast and if that were to give me a mediocre boss item and four items, I wouldn't want to spend me real life time doing that. I don't know for sure and if you did know this I'm sorry for wasting your time! :)
@@flaming9072aurelionite takes a huge load off your back (🤨) during teleporter as someone who has the dlc and has golden e8 (but holy shit I would rather do a defense nucleus and polyp only run that golden artificer again)
I remember going for the memes on stage 1 once and picking up Egocentrism then on stage 2 I found a Lunar Cleansing Pool, which was basically an Irradiant Pearl farm at that point, since I was careful to not pick up Irradiant Pearls until they were all that was on the ground and until I stopped farming for them.
That's actually a really cool way to get shiny pearls.
I tried to cleanse a bunch of egocentrisms this way once, but after looping I didn't find any cleansing pools. I *did* however find many healing statue things.
@@ap1evideogame44 I mean, it's definitely not a viable strategy, as Cleansing Pools seem rare and I'm pretty sure they're map-specific, but when it happens, it's incredibly cool.
@@yvaskhmir yeah, they're rare, but it's supposed to be five times as likely on Aphelian Sanctuary, which is where I went. Maybe things simply spawn differently as you loop more.
@@ap1evideogame44cleansing pools don’t spawn with artifact of command I think, not saying you are playing with command.
Are we sure the aphelian sanctuary not spawning lunar buds is a bug? I thought it was a lore reason. The sanctuary was a place created by providence as a place to rid creatures of afflictions, with his brother's lunar items also being an unwelcomed influence on the planet.
It litterally has better chances of spawning cleansing pools out of any stage in the game.@@shaunhayes3072
yeah its intentional for both no lunar pods and more cleansing pool spawn chance
@@louisgunstone723 the problem is they intended for that, but the game actually will still try to spawn the pods, so it wastes the stage credits and spawns nothing
Skill issue for the stage
Aurelionite is also more worth it the more players there are I find, since Halcyon seed scales from all players inventory just like Lepton Daisies, playing 4 player the boss drops 1 item per player on defeat, getting 4 Halcyons per gilded coast tends to make one boss of an Aurelionite. But that is a niche that multiplayer really brings.
And for singleplayer, as someone else noted that since time stands still in the guilded coast, it's not THAT big of a timesink
does more halcyon seeds actually make aurelionite stronger?
Yeah I think he gets +50% damage and +100% health
@@aquamarinerose5405 Time does stand still in the gilded coast, but progressing to the next stage(including to, and from, Gilded coast) causes enemies to scale faster against you, which is why it's hit or miss on whether you should go there sometimes.
@@bananagher7555 5 items from the cost, with an 8 chest cost, is pretty good for a tool that draws aggro in the most useful times (Bosses) and protects you from your own item synergies killing you in Mythrix.
Bonus points if you use the teleporter event money to open chests reducing the cost of this even further.
11:44 Irradiant pearl is the only way you can permanently have both crit rate>16% and the instakill glasses.
Aside from clover
@@jakethesnake9484 flashback to the time I got three clovers in one run. I don't even have them unlocked, I was just the last person standing in a multiplayer game.
scythe, pred, spleen, pearl, doesn't that make 26% crit?
@@sino_diogenes Yeah, without the pearl you have 16% crit, which is not >16%.
Or, and this is a stretch, having Optical HUD and 1 Gesture of the Drowned and then a combined total of 9 more Gestures of the drowned and Fuel Cells, and you can have 100% crit chance in conjunction with the Lost Seer's Lenses
you forgot artifact key
Yeah... Artifact key 😂
Well, it wouldn’t be fair. That would be number one.
The thing is with Pearls, they boost ALL hp gains by 10%. So, if you have 2 pearls and pick up an Infusion, that’s 120 hp per stack instead of 100, or 48 hp on a Knurl. It’s even more bonkers on the irradiant because you apply that logic to EVERYTHING. Move speed, attack speed, jump height… whenever an item gives you any stats, irradiant pearl makes it give you even more value.
Your channel (along with Race's) has been awesome as I've jumped headfirst into playing this game the past couple months. Just beat my first E8 this morning thanks to y'all! Keep up the great work
> open video
> not planula
Planula has a build where it's useful, Defense Nucleus does not.
The cool down for genesis loop is correct. It says every 30/(2+1 per stack). 30/2 is 15 and if you get another it becomes 30/3 which is 10. The +1 per stack is for the denominator of the devision.
4:10 Rare footage of Gramps using lunar items
(Also, great video and tierlist, it was absolutely spot on in every placement)
Aphelion Sanctuary not spawning lunar pods almost makes sense from a lore perspective. Since it has the most cleansing pools, the denizens there probably cared a lot about removing Mithrix's influence from the area. One could imagine them quickly opening every lunar pod and cleansing the item whenever one landed, hence why you don't see any.
Empathy Cores is bonkers if you're adamant about picking up drones as you play the game. And they can solo mithrix if you happen upon a spare drone parts.
My only gripe about em is that they constantly boop you while standing still/scrapping >.
Fellow console player detected. Rolling pots can be absolute HELL when healing drones want to cuddle all the time and launch the pot out of position.
@@ethanmontgomery6132 I will actively avoid the Queen's gland if I get it stage one because he messes with my pot rolls constantly
I'm shocked that Genesis Loop landed above Knurl, given that Knurl can actually be used on the whole cast
DO's delivery with jokes is 10/10 imo.
8:54 Empathy Cores? nah bro its called "The Twins" from Terraria dont lie to me
It's a portal referance.
hello grandpa disputed i would like to tell you that i have told my little sister about you and now she is a big fan of risk of rain races and has been very motivated in getting every character to eclipse 8 despite being a console player and i would like to thank you for creating yet another certified risk of rain gamer
2:35 Good thing is, when you get it, you have a bunch of useless yellow items to replace with anything that is not a knurl or a defense nucleus when you find a printer.
Listen grandpa I know it’s hard to pronounce things without your dentures but for future reference “halcyon” is pronounced “Hal-see-on”. Thanks for the content Gramps
This video is somehow the way I learned that railgunner can shoot multiple times if you have backup mags, I thought they were just a complete waste of a white item. Thanks I guess?
I’ve been playing ror2 for over 1.5 years and didn’t know this till a month ago. You’re not alone lol
backup mags still aren't great on railgunner anyways because it's often better to just reload after every shot anyway for the DMG bonus
commenting for the algorithm because i appreciate your honesty
AYYYYY NEW DIO VIDEO!!! Good luck on your races by the way, they're so tough but you're an absolute soldier
You thought it was DIO, but its me, DIO
Really nice vid,i love your tierlist
Not even for info,i know it all,but you just make it so entertaining
genesis loop doesn’t reward you for playing poorly, it saves you when you do bad so that you have breathing room to get back to max health
Meta makes ror2 a bit less fun, silly builds and items like genesis loop coming in clutch when you don't expect it is really fun especially with friends
gotta love how he has no intro, just jumps straight into the video
Bruh how could you not mention that the shatterspleen synergizes with needle tick? Shatterspleen lets you get back the ability to bleed, so you can have both collapse and bleed potential.
@@shaunhayes3072Tf do you mean counter synergy? 2 debuffs instead of 1. you can't get both a shatterspleen and a tri tip bleed at the same time, but you can shatterspleen and collapse at the same time
@@ThePizzabrothersGamingSpleen and tri-tips actually stack bleed independently of each other, so characters that can use bleed would rather be getting 2 stacks of bleed per hit than 1 bleed and 1 collapse
@@rhodey_37that is no longer true, they fixed it so you can't get more than 1 bleed stack per hit
talked to my friends and we couldnt all agree on a SURVIVOR tierlist, would love to hear your thoughts on it.
I've always felt that knurl and defense nucleus are bad because they do not provide the player with the special attack of the boss they just killed, you know, like every other boss item does?
Knurl could easily be made viable in the early game if it shot out a golem laser (the burst damage kind) at random nearby enemies on a 10 second cooldown, which reduces hyperbolically with each additional stack. This on top of the health boosts.
Nucleus could be fixed in a similar way by making it more consistent. Remove the on-kill shengai spawns, put it on a timer.
If you tank a hit that wipes out more than 25% of your health in a single damage instance, you gain a shield similar to the xi ping, which provides jade elephant damage reduction for 3 seconds and overrides the shengai spawn time to only 1 second for 5 seconds.
This 25% hp lost in one instance of damage thing can also be applied to penis loop, so that it is useable at theoretically every point of your hp bar as long as it is not below 25%. This makes it not reward bad gaming, but mistakes that humans would eventually make, like walking into a blazing elite mushrum's acid pool because you were curious if the acid and fire would stack (they obviously would you fucking idiot why did I do that ruined such a good run)
Aurelionite has actually gotten me killed before. During the final phase of Mithrix where he steals all ypur items, not getting hit is rypically best to avoid things like ATGs or ukes. Aureltionate got hit, Mithrix activated uke I believe, and I died for it.
That marble blast ultra music though. Enjoyed you're vid as always
How dare you try to manipulate us into engaging, Grandpa!
sorry babe, new Disputed Origin video just dropped... You'll have to find a ride home cuz it's time to listen to gramps cook
Mmm, ost from Night in the Woods! Great video by the way, really useful. Thank you!
No way, 33 seconds and already in my recommended. Wow. Algorithm putting in work.
I really like seeing the item with the boss in the background like that
no artifact key
Or newly hatched zoa :(
One thing about titanic knurl is that since it boosts life regen, it boosts acrid self healing from the third hit of the primary fire and the bite secondary, since those count as regeneration and not actual healing
I love the little shots of each boss standing next to their item, they're so cute. Like kids in art class proudly showing off a thing they made
these tip videos are so good for helping improve rapidly
came for the tier list, stayed for the Night in the Woods music
Holy fuck, ancient memories are flooding back into my brain after hearing the Marble Blast Ultra soundtrack lmaooooo
Once on a run I got two drone parts on stage one, empathy cores on stage four, and defense nucleus on stage five. Combine that with a bunch of drones and my army was unstoppable
Molten Perforator is a funny one, because ot can literally be a run ender if your machine (or Switch) can't handle it.
I was having one of those lv +20 runs and accidently picked it up and ended up quitting out of it when I was now periodically going a dozen seconds or more per frame thanks to all the additional visual clutter that wasn't even hitting anything.
Hearing marble blast ultra music in the background legit let me relive a childhood memory 😂
So glad you mentioned gloop on engineer.
I've cleared void seeds before by dropping my turrets into the edge of one and waiting for the Gloop
3:25 yooo night in the woods music? Damn disputed I didn't know you were chill like that
Good ranking, would agree overall with most of the placings. One question though, where would you place newly hatched Zoa in this list if you were to include it. While it’s not a yellow item, I’d consider it a boss item since it corrupts all yellow items.
Probably similar to happiest mask on most survivors, higher on engie
Probably below empathy cores:
1) The ally spawns are very strong by themselves alongside having an insta wipe martyrdom effect, but that detain will also wipe you if you're not careful
2) Because it corrupts ALL boss items, its actual value may vary by run. On one hand, it would suck so much to lose a shatterspleen or perforator. On the other hand, shungite can be just free zoea stacking.
nah as a engineer main, my favorite and the yellow which im always looking to get is the jellyfish yellow and it just feels good when it happens and can help in times of need. Also its very op on the turrets you can make (for engineer)
I was laughing at some guy getting jumpscared by a defense nucleus, and then I got jumpscared by tartar sauce.
Gotta love him showcasing Molten Perforator being second best, and the footage shown looks like it does ZERO damage to anything lol
I really liked the background footage for this video. Not sure what mods you're using, but the game looks very pretty!
Coming from your other vids most of your commentary was pretty clean so to hear the plain, deadpan delivery of “…if ya like fuckin’ and suckin’ mirred urn is for you” caught me totally off guard.
marble blast ultra ost is crazy
Something I feel you missed with Shatterspleen was that the Crit bleed it applies is counted as separate from Tri-Tip Needle bleeds. So, on proc builds on characters like Commando and Captain can apply 2 stacks of bleed per hit, instead of 1. Not huge or anything, but it does just make it even stronger than you described for those sorts of characters.
Also, yeah, it can take a while to get the Halcyon Seed in real time (especially if you're unlucky have get bad items), but while you're in the Gilded Coast, the timer doesn't move, so you effectively get a free boss enemy to aid you for teleporters and 4 chests for free, in terms of the in-game timer.
since the DLC you cannot roll both shatterspleen and tritip bleed on the same hit
ngl I have a newfound love for the Halcyon seed recently.
a couple days ago I had a godlike monsoon run where the game, for some reason, gave me around 4 chances to go to gold coast. combined with my run where I had a mod that added an item called the "Relic of Termination" (Tldr, spawn a buffed enemy that guaranteed drops an item if you kill it fast enough) that triggered on Aurelionite which tripled the drop of the Halcyon seed on my first trip(but just killing her when she was buffed up like that was pain)...
by the time I got to Mitherix, I had 7 of them and when she showed up in phase 3... I actually forgot I had 7 of them, barely processed she spawned, and then watched as she kicked Mitherix's teeth in as I die of laughter. Doubt I'll get a run like that in a long time.
Defence nucleus is kinda fun in the Simulacrum, but thats about all its good for
thank you for just jumping into the content
Another bonus for shatterspleen is that if you get your crit high enough, you no longer need Tri-tip so you can swap them for needle tick for shatter
Aren't bleed procks from tri-tips and spleen separate? So you could get double bleed stacks.
@@MarkNapalmov I think it was that way before the DLC but it definitely doesn't work like that anymore
i find the grandparent more difficult than the xi construct. yes, the gap has closed as i learned how to deal with them but you're WAY more likely to be put in a situation where you're just fucked than with xi construct.
shatter spleen plus needle tick is amazing
can still do bleeds and the collapse damage
super fun combo
and void crit on bandit with those is DISGUSTING
3:41 for this item I’d also recommend the item that doubles healing. The red item I believe. I think it works great as a combination.
Something extra about the planula now that twisted enemies exist! If you have a couple armor plates with it you invalid the entire new elite even turning their power against them if you have an item that is affected by you getting hit
4:38 It's pronounced "hal-see-uhn". It's a real word that's also a genus of bird :D
Hey, not sure if you were making a joke, but Halcyon seed is pronounced Hal-see-uhn. If you were making a joke i apologize.
Is it a mod or different config that gives you such crips lighting on those stages? See at 5:45 or 9:20
Stageathetic mod I think
Stage atheistic, don’t know how to spell it but it’s on thunderstorm and r2modman
night in the woods ost in the background, very epic
A thing to note about BG is that there is an issue in multiplayer when you enter the Bazaar where the guard will push other players through the floor and the fall damage will kill them.
Because of this, it is the worst boss item specifically in eclipse multiplayer.
eh dying in bazaar is not that bad, you respawn in multiplayer next stage anyway, and unless there was a really good red/green and you had scrap for it, youre not missing anything by dying just in the bazaar. also its not like every single time u enter and someone has a bg youll die, it just is a weird bug sometimes. also you can just avoid going to the bazaar if its rlly that big of a deal, only situation i could see this is if someone had a dios or a bunch of watches or something. id still rather have a bg than a defense nucleus in eclipse multiplayer lol
Pre-dlc (on xbox) I was playing bandit and on my second loop, molten and charged perforator caused a proc chain that was a bit buggy, so it spawned an infinite loop of lightning strikes, fireballs and ATG missiles that crashed my game because 10 of each spawned about every frame, causing damage number of 20,000,000 and frame rates of -20,000,000. My xbox crashed.
Genesis Loop is also really good for Artificer using the leap ability because you can easily stall midair and use the ability without much risk
11:23 its a bug? I always thought that it was intentional. That lorewise the residents of petrichor V have cleansed all traces of Mithrix and items he throws down to the ground
Just realized the background music from a game I played, Marble Blast Ultra.
Otherwise, epic video
Egocentrism x Cleansing Pool crossover of the century.
I'm gonna mention this for genesis loop real quick;
it's fantastic in simulacrum, I'd argue one of the best yellows for that mode
void damage allows you to get below the threshold with significantly more control, it's on your terms when you'd like to activate it, and due to the much tighter enemy density, you essentially wipe the entire map at the low cost of playing inside the void for a bit
the anti-synergy with watches and the like is less prominent too since, until you stack enough barrier gain, void runs are going to get you below 25% hp fairly frequently if you intend on minmaxxing (dependent on character though)
tl;dr, much more control, much more reward, highly recommend
Hal-See-On lol, hearing “Hal-coin” made me laugh
I've not had a visit to gilded cost take 20 minutes, it is normally 5-10 and the difficulty timer doesn't advance during it.
Since there is 4 free chests there it halves the cost to 4 regular chests to enter practically speaking, but the yellow item which is a great anti-boss tool in most cases is at least worth a chest or two making it only practically cost 1-2 chests.
10/10 would comment on again
(to help out the epic ROR2 youtuber of all time)
Where is artifact key gramps? Is the dementia kicking up again?
"empathy cores"
>attacks me during the entirety of the artifact of chaos fight because I missed a shot and hit them instead.
real empathetic guys, thanks.
Bro got that NitW ost in the background. Amen, brother.
(At about 5 minutes)
Based Night in the Woods background music
One of the few youtube channels with very informative and entertaining videos. You're doing an amazing job my man. Keep it up!
I'ma about to eat a pizza disputed, thought this was relevant to the video.
Halcyon pronounced as halc-coin, is absolutely cursed. I love it.
"How-Coin seed" - Disputed Origin 2023
It's hal-see-on seed my mans
Marble Blast Ultra music? Unfathomably based
1:42 what an interesting way of telling me that i am bad at the game
I've found myself happy to pick up Titanic Knurl on early stage as I'm currently on Eclipse 11. Can't say no to any form of regeneration that isn't halved
gotta say, you did planula dirty. It is basically an anti bleed/fire effect and has saved me many times when I just wasn't fast enough with school bag or coat was on cool down, or I just didn't have them. Also if your going to make it's rank lower by when you get the item then I don't see why Charge Perforator gets a pass there as Overloading Worm is a rarest boss in the game and requires a high difficulty while also having the chance of not dropping a boss item.
I love your ranking videos, even when I disagree with you!
i remember one time getting a yellow to lunar printer on the same stage as a cleansing pool, walked out that stage with 30 irradiant pearls.
Ah yes, my favorite lunar item: How Coin Seed. Thanks automatic chapters
i was playing earlier and my beetle guard killed me because it was void touched
Missed opportunity to end the video with "Tartare for now"
the gold altar cost is irrelevant since the credit cost is 1