Some items have gotten a bad reputation over time, some deserve it, but some don't. Discord: / discord I stream every Monday and Friday on this channel twitch is cringe
You actually missed the biggest thing thay made Sticky Bomb so broken back in the day. Stickies used to ALSO have a proc coedficient, meaning that they could basically restart your proc chain once they went off. A couple ukes and stickies and 3 seconds after you shot a guy, everyone would explode, and the chain would all restart. It was hysterical
In my nearly 1000 hours of RoR2, I can only remember _one_ single instance where PSG definitively caused me to die from lack of OSP, and that was after looping so many times that elite Scavengers were everywhere (I think one hit me with a Resonance Disc or something). It's seriously not anywhere near the issue people make it out to be.
I agree that nowadays it definitely doesn't make a big difference to OSP, but most people who hate on PSG's i've talked to are because they played when glass was the #1 item in the game, back then OSP would allow you to live in a lot more situations than you were supposed to, and the lack of scrappers, repulsion plates and the like meant that a PSG could quite literally be the difference between living and dying. That kind of mentality towards PSGs just continued even after OSP was changed w/ curses.
i know im late but i litterally lost a run yesterday to osp not activating from shield, i was at 100% hp and a scavenger got genesis loop and went through 2 elixirs.
@@citratune7830but would you have lost the run earlier from not having enough health? If you were ever extremely low health during that run you would have lost due to NOT having PSG. People just don't think about that so blame the run ending on PSG even though it likely would have happened earlier due to not having PSG.
Frost relic holds a special place in my heart because on top of being my first red drop, it has saved AoE-less runs on numerous occasions, both monsoon and eclipse. If I ever scrap a frost relic, pour gas on me and ignite because that's a skinwalker
Another awesome thing about Corpsebloom, it somewhat buffers your healing. If you heal on full health, normally nothing happens and the heal is wasted. But with a Corpsebloom, the heal is still applied over time even on full health. If you take a hit in this time period, you still get some value from the healing you applied earlier.
@@PoisonFlower765 As far as I remember, Nkuhana works with overheal in general. The classic combo is Nkuhana with Fungus on Engineers turrets, spamming skulls like crazy.
@@epicgamernik76 the "stored" healing ticks down with time as if it would heal you. As long as you apply new healing, you can keep the storage up. But I dont know the limit of the storage. You could test this in a command run stacking a conditional healing item like fungus. Just start moving after standing a long time and count how long it takes for the stored healing to stop.
I think the squid polyp hate came from survivors of the void. It used to be one of the most common ways you died. You open a void chest, squid polyp spawns gets infected and kills you by giving you like 3-4 stacks of collapse. They nerfed the infected polyp so that it doesn't terminate your run, but that was a problem. And the bad blood isn't forgotten.
I do think SotV's launch did hurt its reputation a bit, but even before SotV Squid Polyp was widely considered one of the most useless greens. And honestly, it kind of was - before SotV you didn't have access to Caffeinator builds to spawn a ton of squid turrets at once, and they also didn't have the insane knockback they do now. So there really weren't all that many situations where it was worth having.
Eclipse Mithrix fights made me appreciate chronobauble, and headstompers are wicked now. But having my squid polyps get void touched and killing me instantly gave me PTSD
Squid turrets getting voidtouched is _far_ less of an issue after they got buffed in the 1.2.4 update. - insane knockback buff means they're much less likely to get corrupted in the first place since they can easily knock void infestors away - proc coefficient being reduced from 1 to 0.1 means they'll only apply Collapse 10% of the time - and their base damage was decreased from 20 to 4, so any Collapse stacks only do 1/5th the damage they did before, about as much as a lesser wisp
Thanks for the info! Now, I will only ever take Squid Polyp. I think I will also vouch for Squid Polyp to be a playable character in Risk of Rain Returns!
I think that the reason PSG is so maligned still is because of old shaped glass. Back during early access shaped glass used to allow you to keep your oneshot protection, so people were running around with as many as possible and like 5 health abusing OSP and the insane damage multiplier from glass. PSG of course broke this interaction and would kill a run using this strategy if you picked one up, hence it's continued bad reputation, even after the glass nerf.
Or honestly just command runs in general. From experience as a command player, one of the more overpowered strategies is to simply stack healing. You can easily create a broken enough damage build in the early game, and from that point on you can just stack healing items to the extreme. Command removes skill from the game for multiple reasons, but by sticking to health, you can get so much healing that it becomes nearly impossible to die even to multihit attacks because of OSP. I think it just means that command players generally have a warped idea of what items are good, hyperfocusing on synergies that break the game and hating on items that make those synergies more difficult to use.
About a week ago i had a god run with mul-t, where i had an aegis, 10 wungus and like 10 psg's, so my max health was like 15k and if it went down i could run for 5 secs and i would max it out, so i was already pretty much immortal, but at some point i found a psg printer so i scrapped all the bad whites and turned them into around 50 psg, and i ended up with 60k max health
the "Non-aggressive, passive young man firing roman candles at people" delivery was phenomenal. your delivery of deadpan sarcasm is perfect. i went through half of your switch port video before i realized you were being sarcastic and it made it so much funnier
My main grip with squirt polyp is just that it'll send whisper flying which gets really annoying when your playing a melee survivor and/trying to clear out a void seed
Effigy and fuel cells got me the Captain "Smushed" achievement that armor shred is nothing to scoff at. Very solid lunar equipment to use when I'm not getting addicted to tonic
One issue with the squid polyp + soda dispenser build is that it can knock some enemies to far away. I had to fight a Xi Construct as the teleporter boss on Sky Meadows and my squid turrets launched it so far into the sky it wouldn't come back down. I was Mercenary, so I had literally no way of defeating it and the run was essentially softlocked
Fun fact about ghors tome: if you leave a chunk of gold dropped from an enemy until just before teleporting to the next stage you can pick it up and it wont change into XP, basically giving you a free chest on the next stage after killing two or three enemies
This applies to all forms of gaining gold. Saving elite/high gold enemies before tping is another good way to carry over gold, and as was already stated blood shrines. Especially saving the 93% ones assuming you don't have any watches and/or elixirs. You could also save the pods that release gold but its not really that much.
Chronobauble is kinda what you desperately need once you reach Eclipse 4 and above. The fast moving enemies don't seem like a threat until you realise that larvae are practically unavoidable and ANYTHING that has the ability to move fast is about twice as fast as you're used to. It makes aiming hard, keeping a track on mob positioning even harder and it's way worse when elder lemurians just run up to you and burn you to mush because you couldn't afford to take your eyes off the horde of larvae, beetles, imps and lemurians on your heels.
Great video, i also would like to say that PSG is very nice for eclipse 5, as you have a chunk of hp that is prioritized when taking damage and is unaffected by e5. It also slightly increases the threshold for e8 to take effect, so that’s nice. If you did a part 2, one item I think could work is razorwire. So many people think it’s bad, but it can dish out some crazy damage for just being one green item. If you get hit by a debuff like burn or bleed, you get some very strong aoe, and you can use it intentionally with void damage from void seeds or void fields. It makes void fields much easier when you can just step out and rapidly kill everything around you. Not to mention the insanely op razorwire tincture build.
Yeah I agree with you on razorwire, always thought it was really good. Just having one of them basically invalidates wisps in the early game and is so helpful as a melee survivor
The polyps have grown on me, it’s a free distraction and damage output, with a knockback value so high it will send any and every flying enemy out of bounds, and wisps will even take kinetic damage if they hit a solid surface. I still scrap them at any and every opportunity because I’ve been traumatized by Void infested turrets collapsing me one to many times.
Remembering a recent run I had where the boss fight was a bunch of elite gups and I had the desk plant I was already cracked out, but when all the gups were killed, it basically left a hyper dense forest of desk plants that instantly healed me no matter how much damage I took
The only reason that I don't like frost relic is because it zooms out my screen, and it's just annoying by doing that. Same for hunter's harpoon, if harpoon was like +0.5% speed on kill (maxing at like 20% or something) it would be nice and not make my movement inconsistent.
Red whip is so good early game. Let's you get around after each boss and grab a few more items then you would have had time for otherwise. Also helps when trying to run away after taking heavy damage.
Ghor's tome being disliked in general is just showing that people donno how the game works. Any item that accelerate your own scaling is a good item, even if you would be scrapped it from stage 5 and up. Saving 30-60s for the first few stages is massive for any high difficulty runs.
4:40 “since non-elite enemies become less common than elites themselves”. The way your brain works to even put out that sentence is quite interesting. By far most people would say “elites become more common than non-elites” Great video! I’m definitely a fan of this channel lately
Thank you so much for this video, I learnt so much since I never really gave most of these items a chance, especially that corpsebloom interaction. I have a follow up question: in light of this, what IS the worst item your opinion? Additionally, what is the worst one from each rarity?
interesting video. shocked the community doesn't like ghor's tome. sure, it definitely falls of later in the run by the time you're like in like the end of your first loop but it's makes the early game sooooo much quicker and easier to get your loot, ESPECIALLY on stage 4. shocked to see some other items the community considers to be bad tho (sticky bombs, gearbox feather, and frost relic) then again with my friend group, they dislike delicate watch and topaz, but love aegis for some reason.
Frost relic is probably my favourite underrated red. Also people don't understand the purpose of crowbars. It basically shaves off a portion of every enemy's max hp. And unlike old guillotine (which is a green item btw), it works for every enemy. And it also synergies extremely well with voidsent flame
Red Whip & Ghor's Tome are items that have consistently grown on me the better I got at the game As a noob it's easy to assume they're useless because they don't increase your damage, but the cumulative time they save in the early game is unparalleled
My first RoR2 win was with corpsebloom and regent rack combined with three medkits and a couple other healing accessories. The boss that had once terrified me turned into a complete joke with two items. However, Mythrix ALMOST became completely invincible during his final phase, and it took me a solid minute just to get my first artifact back(thankfully it was corpsebloom😂)
My issue with squid polyps is the knockback, it makes hitting the enemies more annoying or sometimes right out impossible. I remember almost getting soft locked on a teleported event because of it, thankfully I had an equipment that was able to deal with the boss. If it weren’t for its knockback I wouldn’t even mind that much
i just started watching your stuff a couple weeks ago, but thanks for doing what you do! outro was very wholesome and made me want to leave some love in the comments, peace!
Aegis is also kind of underrated and 100% deserves at least an honorable mention. Although I’m an eclipse player and not that familiar with it as it’s hindered by eclipse quite a bit, Aegis has great combos with fiend healing in the early game, and corpsebloom rack in the late game without eclipse modifiers. Great video as always.
I feel like the problem with agis is that there are basically 2 cases. 1. You get agis early - and so it does next to nothing. 2. You get agis late - and chances are you have like 3 brooches and so it does nothing. If agis stacked with the barrier from brooches, or could go beyond 100% of your max health, this would be a very different story.
Wake of Vultures was widely hated during the glass+healing meta because glass didn't break oneshot protection back then. But, having shields did, which made vultures a HUGE run-killer back then. Same goes for Personal Shield Generator. This period of the meta is also why Corpsebloom is so hated, since it turned all your healing into percentile, and when you're stacking glass, that simply hurt your ability to quickly refresh OSP. Needless to say OSP/Glass meta was extremely unhealthy for the game.
Fun thing about Corpsebloom, if you have Aegis and a lot of healing, like 5x Medkits, once your health is full, any healing you get from them on is applied overtime to your Aegis, so you'll constantly have a shield as well
Squid polyp is pretty fun indeed. I activated the teleporter and it spawned elder Lemurians. Instead of killing me they all stood around the turret and i was able to chain them with wisp
The Corpsebloom is one of my favorite lunar item in the game, i find that makes your healing more consistent, and it really makes a good synergy with Wungus, the Rejuv Rack, and with the Aegis and some Topaz Broch you can retain the barrier gained from killing enemies
What the fuck, wake of vultures defence. Nothing hurts more than seeing that red sphere drop and rersolve into a wake of vultures. Also recognised that chrono trigger music in the last portion of the video, schala's theme.
the problem with the rejuv rack corpsebloom combo is eventually it doesnt matter how much healing you get, 60x, 500x, 1,000,000x, it's all the same, the only thing that matters at that point is corpsebloom's healing per second cap (and it is useful that each rejuv rack increases the health per second, but 5 racks and some decent healing items is still usually gonna be better than 60% maxhp/sec) that said... corpsebloom still probably shines when you have 1 rejuvenation rack or none at all, or really any time your healing is already pretty slow its still not incredible, but it definitely doesn't deserve it's current infamy
I love wake of vultures though i cant do eclipse yet and personal sheild generator is a most grab i wouldnt be able to count the amount of times fireworks has saved me also corpsebloom REX is stupid powerful
I vouch for chronobauble all day. 1 chronobauble is enough to phase skip the entirety of mithtix 1st phase and part of mithrix 3rd and 4th phase. He becomes so slow that he gives up on chasing you and just jumps back to the middle of the arena for a slam. Additionally it has a 100% proc rate so it's amazing for death mark. I basically always try to get a bauble and a mark when I'm playing characters like rex.
With polyps you can heal them so using engineer and stationary turrets with a bunch of bungus the squids never die so not only is there a heal fields you have undying turrets
I literally don't know why people get so mad at Plant pot (no I am not biased despite my username.) It's literally a god tier healing item, so if you want a healing build or you're playing engineer, get it
I can't believe the hate on PSG is because one hit protection which is a joke since most of the time you don't die to only one source of damage. Thanks for the explanation, I feel vindicated on thinking the hate was silly.
I find the whole PSG OSP thing stupid because it implies that you're always going to be outhealing the shield regen, which is a maybe at best if you're both looping and tanking
loved the intro, i think more youtubers should follow your example
Like no intro at all?
Agreed
Very heartwarming
Perfection
same
You actually missed the biggest thing thay made Sticky Bomb so broken back in the day. Stickies used to ALSO have a proc coedficient, meaning that they could basically restart your proc chain once they went off. A couple ukes and stickies and 3 seconds after you shot a guy, everyone would explode, and the chain would all restart. It was hysterical
In my nearly 1000 hours of RoR2, I can only remember _one_ single instance where PSG definitively caused me to die from lack of OSP, and that was after looping so many times that elite Scavengers were everywhere (I think one hit me with a Resonance Disc or something). It's seriously not anywhere near the issue people make it out to be.
I agree that nowadays it definitely doesn't make a big difference to OSP, but most people who hate on PSG's i've talked to are because they played when glass was the #1 item in the game, back then OSP would allow you to live in a lot more situations than you were supposed to, and the lack of scrappers, repulsion plates and the like meant that a PSG could quite literally be the difference between living and dying. That kind of mentality towards PSGs just continued even after OSP was changed w/ curses.
i know im late but i litterally lost a run yesterday to osp not activating from shield, i was at 100% hp and a scavenger got genesis loop and went through 2 elixirs.
cute pfp
very cute profile picture! 💖
@@citratune7830but would you have lost the run earlier from not having enough health? If you were ever extremely low health during that run you would have lost due to NOT having PSG. People just don't think about that so blame the run ending on PSG even though it likely would have happened earlier due to not having PSG.
Frost relic holds a special place in my heart because on top of being my first red drop, it has saved AoE-less runs on numerous occasions, both monsoon and eclipse. If I ever scrap a frost relic, pour gas on me and ignite because that's a skinwalker
Extreme but I'll uphold that
Frost relic was my first red drop too. I guess just back then it was one of the few reds that were actually unlocked
I also feel like it's pretty good on Railgunner cause you're constantly looking down-scope, and it helps keep mobs off your back while you're aiming
Hey, same here! What a fun red to have as a first drop for us lucky ones
One day, when you eventually mis-click in the scrapper, you’ll hear just a feint sound of the sloshing of liquid inside a plastic container.
Another awesome thing about Corpsebloom, it somewhat buffers your healing. If you heal on full health, normally nothing happens and the heal is wasted. But with a Corpsebloom, the heal is still applied over time even on full health. If you take a hit in this time period, you still get some value from the healing you applied earlier.
Does that work with Opinion?
@@PoisonFlower765 As far as I remember, Nkuhana works with overheal in general. The classic combo is Nkuhana with Fungus on Engineers turrets, spamming skulls like crazy.
Is there a cap to how much healing it can store?
@@epicgamernik76 the "stored" healing ticks down with time as if it would heal you. As long as you apply new healing, you can keep the storage up. But I dont know the limit of the storage. You could test this in a command run stacking a conditional healing item like fungus. Just start moving after standing a long time and count how long it takes for the stored healing to stop.
@@stefankuhne6103 I don't have artifacts unlocked yet so I can't test it actually lol
I think the squid polyp hate came from survivors of the void. It used to be one of the most common ways you died. You open a void chest, squid polyp spawns gets infected and kills you by giving you like 3-4 stacks of collapse.
They nerfed the infected polyp so that it doesn't terminate your run, but that was a problem. And the bad blood isn't forgotten.
I do think SotV's launch did hurt its reputation a bit, but even before SotV Squid Polyp was widely considered one of the most useless greens. And honestly, it kind of was - before SotV you didn't have access to Caffeinator builds to spawn a ton of squid turrets at once, and they also didn't have the insane knockback they do now. So there really weren't all that many situations where it was worth having.
@@SSM24_didn't it also get buffed with the dlc?
@@pastherolink7181 Not at the DLC's launch, the buffs came later.
Eclipse Mithrix fights made me appreciate chronobauble, and headstompers are wicked now. But having my squid polyps get void touched and killing me instantly gave me PTSD
Squid turrets getting voidtouched is _far_ less of an issue after they got buffed in the 1.2.4 update.
- insane knockback buff means they're much less likely to get corrupted in the first place since they can easily knock void infestors away
- proc coefficient being reduced from 1 to 0.1 means they'll only apply Collapse 10% of the time
- and their base damage was decreased from 20 to 4, so any Collapse stacks only do 1/5th the damage they did before, about as much as a lesser wisp
Thanks for the info! Now, I will only ever take Squid Polyp. I think I will also vouch for Squid Polyp to be a playable character in Risk of Rain Returns!
I think that the reason PSG is so maligned still is because of old shaped glass. Back during early access shaped glass used to allow you to keep your oneshot protection, so people were running around with as many as possible and like 5 health abusing OSP and the insane damage multiplier from glass. PSG of course broke this interaction and would kill a run using this strategy if you picked one up, hence it's continued bad reputation, even after the glass nerf.
Or honestly just command runs in general. From experience as a command player, one of the more overpowered strategies is to simply stack healing. You can easily create a broken enough damage build in the early game, and from that point on you can just stack healing items to the extreme. Command removes skill from the game for multiple reasons, but by sticking to health, you can get so much healing that it becomes nearly impossible to die even to multihit attacks because of OSP.
I think it just means that command players generally have a warped idea of what items are good, hyperfocusing on synergies that break the game and hating on items that make those synergies more difficult to use.
Having 2 psg removes osp even normally if I remember right
@@deathspade42 But have you tried stacking PSG and infusion (with transcendence) with command? Who needs healing when you have 100k hp lol
About a week ago i had a god run with mul-t, where i had an aegis, 10 wungus and like 10 psg's, so my max health was like 15k and if it went down i could run for 5 secs and i would max it out, so i was already pretty much immortal, but at some point i found a psg printer so i scrapped all the bad whites and turned them into around 50 psg, and i ended up with 60k max health
the "Non-aggressive, passive young man firing roman candles at people" delivery was phenomenal. your delivery of deadpan sarcasm is perfect. i went through half of your switch port video before i realized you were being sarcastic and it made it so much funnier
a cool thing about polyp is that it can make shrine of the woods actually useful since they automatically heal while inside
My main grip with squirt polyp is just that it'll send whisper flying which gets really annoying when your playing a melee survivor and/trying to clear out a void seed
Grip
@@turtle7288 grip
i just hate it. i dont jnow why, i just do.
I have ptsd from void things killing me with it and i don’t think they fixed it being able to be voided?
@@m4rcyonstation93 it can still be voided but won't have ridiculous stats when voided like it did at SOTV launch
Woolie tier list and it's consequences have been a disaster for the risk of rain 2 playerbase
juvi rack, corpse bloom and aegis is probably one of the best combo's to hope for.
also try out corpse bloom+forgein fruits its such a good synergy
This is exactly the comment I was looking for and it was the first comment I saw. So true.
Now add a Single n'kuhanas opinion
headset quail energy drink exists tho
@@knuffelknuffi and then add an atg + ceremonial dagger to automate killing
CEO of the Effigy of Greif enjoyer club here, If you ever make a part 2 consider adding that item to the list!
Effigy and fuel cells got me the Captain "Smushed" achievement that armor shred is nothing to scoff at. Very solid lunar equipment to use when I'm not getting addicted to tonic
I never knew how much i needed youtubers without long annoying intros that explain things we already know
got whiplash from that intro
I was thinking the same thing
First time i watched his videos i had to rewind about 7 times because i was sure i missed something.
One issue with the squid polyp + soda dispenser build is that it can knock some enemies to far away. I had to fight a Xi Construct as the teleporter boss on Sky Meadows and my squid turrets launched it so far into the sky it wouldn't come back down. I was Mercenary, so I had literally no way of defeating it and the run was essentially softlocked
Fun fact about ghors tome: if you leave a chunk of gold dropped from an enemy until just before teleporting to the next stage you can pick it up and it wont change into XP, basically giving you a free chest on the next stage after killing two or three enemies
Same with using blood shrines, which is especially useful in the early game.
This applies to all forms of gaining gold. Saving elite/high gold enemies before tping is another good way to carry over gold, and as was already stated blood shrines. Especially saving the 93% ones assuming you don't have any watches and/or elixirs. You could also save the pods that release gold but its not really that much.
Chronobauble is kinda what you desperately need once you reach Eclipse 4 and above. The fast moving enemies don't seem like a threat until you realise that larvae are practically unavoidable and ANYTHING that has the ability to move fast is about twice as fast as you're used to. It makes aiming hard, keeping a track on mob positioning even harder and it's way worse when elder lemurians just run up to you and burn you to mush because you couldn't afford to take your eyes off the horde of larvae, beetles, imps and lemurians on your heels.
A wonderful way to kill time on the side of the road after my car explodes
happy im not the only one 😋😋
Great video, i also would like to say that PSG is very nice for eclipse 5, as you have a chunk of hp that is prioritized when taking damage and is unaffected by e5. It also slightly increases the threshold for e8 to take effect, so that’s nice. If you did a part 2, one item I think could work is razorwire. So many people think it’s bad, but it can dish out some crazy damage for just being one green item. If you get hit by a debuff like burn or bleed, you get some very strong aoe, and you can use it intentionally with void damage from void seeds or void fields. It makes void fields much easier when you can just step out and rapidly kill everything around you. Not to mention the insanely op razorwire tincture build.
Yeah I agree with you on razorwire, always thought it was really good. Just having one of them basically invalidates wisps in the early game and is so helpful as a melee survivor
Razorwire is great! I remember getting it & a Planula or two and just shredding enemies while standing in mushroom poison. Really fun item
I would love more videos like this. Corpsebloom actually makes aegis good even if you don't have a ton of extra healing.
The polyps have grown on me, it’s a free distraction and damage output, with a knockback value so high it will send any and every flying enemy out of bounds, and wisps will even take kinetic damage if they hit a solid surface. I still scrap them at any and every opportunity because I’ve been traumatized by Void infested turrets collapsing me one to many times.
The knockback can be TOO good - I had a Xi Construct get blown so far out of bounds that it got stuck, softlocking the run
I think they were nerfed to not have 1.0 proc coefficient but way less so they don't collapse you as easily anymore.
thank you for explaining corpsebloom+rack synergy I was actually curious about that. great vid as always
Great video. Would love a part 2. Love learning about the more hidden interactions and mechanics
Remembering a recent run I had where the boss fight was a bunch of elite gups and I had the desk plant
I was already cracked out, but when all the gups were killed, it basically left a hyper dense forest of desk plants that instantly healed me no matter how much damage I took
“2 seconds is more than enough.”
If only man, if only…
The only reason that I don't like frost relic is because it zooms out my screen, and it's just annoying by doing that.
Same for hunter's harpoon, if harpoon was like +0.5% speed on kill (maxing at like 20% or something) it would be nice and not make my movement inconsistent.
For Frelic, AV Effect Options actually lets you remove the FOV change, as well as the particles
That is actually what I love most about the item xD
never thought of using corpseblom before, thank you for the great video
I'd love to see you make a part 2 of this, or maybe do a best equipments to match the worst ones
Red whip is so good early game. Let's you get around after each boss and grab a few more items then you would have had time for otherwise. Also helps when trying to run away after taking heavy damage.
Thank goodness you are back. I missed your shenanigans!!!!
Ghor's tome being disliked in general is just showing that people donno how the game works. Any item that accelerate your own scaling is a good item, even if you would be scrapped it from stage 5 and up. Saving 30-60s for the first few stages is massive for any high difficulty runs.
Genuinely good video, well said points and a killer intro. Keep doing what ur doing it works man ❤
> Old Stickies
> When you increase both damage and proc chance, that's exponential gain, my friend
That's quadratic gain, MY FRIEND.
4:40 “since non-elite enemies become less common than elites themselves”.
The way your brain works to even put out that sentence is quite interesting. By far most people would say “elites become more common than non-elites”
Great video! I’m definitely a fan of this channel lately
Thank you so much for this video, I learnt so much since I never really gave most of these items a chance, especially that corpsebloom interaction.
I have a follow up question: in light of this, what IS the worst item your opinion? Additionally, what is the worst one from each rarity?
Don’t forget, sometimes mythrix will hit you with a combo and completely bypass osp as well, making it useless if you don’t get knocked back
great video and good luck on sunday!
interesting video. shocked the community doesn't like ghor's tome. sure, it definitely falls of later in the run by the time you're like in like the end of your first loop but it's makes the early game sooooo much quicker and easier to get your loot, ESPECIALLY on stage 4.
shocked to see some other items the community considers to be bad tho (sticky bombs, gearbox feather, and frost relic) then again with my friend group, they dislike delicate watch and topaz, but love aegis for some reason.
Frost relic is probably my favourite underrated red.
Also people don't understand the purpose of crowbars. It basically shaves off a portion of every enemy's max hp. And unlike old guillotine (which is a green item btw), it works for every enemy. And it also synergies extremely well with voidsent flame
Red Whip & Ghor's Tome are items that have consistently grown on me the better I got at the game
As a noob it's easy to assume they're useless because they don't increase your damage, but the cumulative time they save in the early game is unparalleled
My first RoR2 win was with corpsebloom and regent rack combined with three medkits and a couple other healing accessories. The boss that had once terrified me turned into a complete joke with two items. However, Mythrix ALMOST became completely invincible during his final phase, and it took me a solid minute just to get my first artifact back(thankfully it was corpsebloom😂)
im happy to see your channel growing
I've never heard of the Corposebloom and Rejuv Rack interaction before, super interesting stuff on that end.
My issue with squid polyps is the knockback, it makes hitting the enemies more annoying or sometimes right out impossible. I remember almost getting soft locked on a teleported event because of it, thankfully I had an equipment that was able to deal with the boss. If it weren’t for its knockback I wouldn’t even mind that much
3:19 yaknow this makes a little bit of sense, since you'd want to be inside the shield, whips may make that harder
you finally got your modded stages request from ages ago! i dont know how recent that is but very nice
Love the use of Chrono Trigger's sound track.
Corpse bloom has definitely been shown in a new light for me. That’s insane.
thanks grandpa for opening my eyes to squid games
i just started watching your stuff a couple weeks ago, but thanks for doing what you do! outro was very wholesome and made me want to leave some love in the comments, peace!
god i simultaneously miss and [inverse nostalgia] the stickybomb meta
Aegis is also kind of underrated and 100% deserves at least an honorable mention. Although I’m an eclipse player and not that familiar with it as it’s hindered by eclipse quite a bit, Aegis has great combos with fiend healing in the early game, and corpsebloom rack in the late game without eclipse modifiers. Great video as always.
i think aegis is my pick for one of the worst reds in the game. you need a lot of healing plus a red item to do what 3 or 4 topaz broaches can
I feel like the problem with agis is that there are basically 2 cases.
1. You get agis early - and so it does next to nothing.
2. You get agis late - and chances are you have like 3 brooches and so it does nothing.
If agis stacked with the barrier from brooches, or could go beyond 100% of your max health, this would be a very different story.
3:26 damn bro described Spain
i started playing short time ago
good video mate
love to see interstellar desk plant representation, one of my favorite reds to get, especially when playing engi
Wake of Vultures was widely hated during the glass+healing meta because glass didn't break oneshot protection back then. But, having shields did, which made vultures a HUGE run-killer back then. Same goes for Personal Shield Generator. This period of the meta is also why Corpsebloom is so hated, since it turned all your healing into percentile, and when you're stacking glass, that simply hurt your ability to quickly refresh OSP. Needless to say OSP/Glass meta was extremely unhealthy for the game.
Great video as always, Grandpa; what song is playing during the Corpse Bloom section? I like it a lot.
Fun thing about Corpsebloom, if you have Aegis and a lot of healing, like 5x Medkits, once your health is full, any healing you get from them on is applied overtime to your Aegis, so you'll constantly have a shield as well
7:44 thanks, I needed that.
I wonder if adding Aegis to the Corpsebloom + Rejuv Rack combo would give more shield/barrier
Squid polyp is pretty fun indeed. I activated the teleporter and it spawned elder Lemurians. Instead of killing me they all stood around the turret and i was able to chain them with wisp
Man I would love to try a squid polyp build. That is if survivors of the void hasn’t been delayed to the end of time on console.
The Corpsebloom is one of my favorite lunar item in the game, i find that makes your healing more consistent, and it really makes a good synergy with Wungus, the Rejuv Rack, and with the Aegis and some Topaz Broch you can retain the barrier gained from killing enemies
I personally never picked up corpsbloom as I didn't understand what it did, thank you for the explanation.
I can see a squid polyp + fireworks + remote caffeinater combo working really well.
You’d think that it’s an uncommon build but I stumble across it like every other run and it fucks hard. Even just remote cafe and fireworks is good.
I really really love how this video is geared around Eclipse😊
i thought i skipped the video when he immediately jumped into number 10
What the fuck, wake of vultures defence. Nothing hurts more than seeing that red sphere drop and rersolve into a wake of vultures. Also recognised that chrono trigger music in the last portion of the video, schala's theme.
The frost storm feeds the willow wisp and gasoline. I love watching things blow up and then the storm gets bigger.
#4 as an engineer is wonderful!
In fact a lot of lower tier items are actually super useful on engineer because of his turrets.
These analogies just keep getting better!
the problem with the rejuv rack corpsebloom combo is eventually it doesnt matter how much healing you get, 60x, 500x, 1,000,000x, it's all the same, the only thing that matters at that point is corpsebloom's healing per second cap (and it is useful that each rejuv rack increases the health per second, but 5 racks and some decent healing items is still usually gonna be better than 60% maxhp/sec)
that said... corpsebloom still probably shines when you have 1 rejuvenation rack or none at all, or really any time your healing is already pretty slow
its still not incredible, but it definitely doesn't deserve it's current infamy
I love wake of vultures though i cant do eclipse yet and personal sheild generator is a most grab i wouldnt be able to count the amount of times fireworks has saved me also corpsebloom REX is stupid powerful
Chrono is so nice for pricing death mark too
I did a run trying to get all reds and wake of vultures did pretty good around stage 10 to the finish, I like it tbh
11:10 "waits little bit instead of trying to heal as 5 collapse stacks are about to go off"
I vouch for chronobauble all day. 1 chronobauble is enough to phase skip the entirety of mithtix 1st phase and part of mithrix 3rd and 4th phase. He becomes so slow that he gives up on chasing you and just jumps back to the middle of the arena for a slam. Additionally it has a 100% proc rate so it's amazing for death mark. I basically always try to get a bauble and a mark when I'm playing characters like rex.
Something to note about Chronobauble as well, is that it contributes to proccing Death Mark. Same goes for stun grenade.
With polyps you can heal them so using engineer and stationary turrets with a bunch of bungus the squids never die so not only is there a heal fields you have undying turrets
I love the shield generator especially if I have a shrimp. Increasing the buffer before losing it is amazing
good vid bro you get like everytime
Squid is amazing with captain. Drop a healing pod on them and spam caffeinator. You now have a nearly immortal swarm of hyper aggressive sentries.
Every single item you listed i use in runs and always get far, especially with head stomp lmaooo
I literally don't know why people get so mad at Plant pot (no I am not biased despite my username.)
It's literally a god tier healing item, so if you want a healing build or you're playing engineer, get it
3:26 I still have a burn scar on my neck because of roman candle battle we had as kids xD
Interstellar desk plant is really good, right up until it turns my game into a slideshow 😭
Frost relic is an uncommon in Risk of Rain 1, and it was always such a sick item to roll on Loader
When an atg or charged perf procs a sticky bomb, is one of the most satisfying things that can happen.
My favorite part of frost relic is that it increases your FoV. Underrated aspect of it.
Underated intros: N1 Disputed Origin
i love the way PSG works with Plimp. more shields means more plimp (i dont play eclipse ....yet)
Thank you for showing us "UNDER-RATED Items in Risk of Rain 2"
I can't believe the hate on PSG is because one hit protection which is a joke since most of the time you don't die to only one source of damage. Thanks for the explanation, I feel vindicated on thinking the hate was silly.
Corpsebloom not working past eclipse 5 really feels like an oversight
Btw you can use the healing fungus to prevent your squid turret from dying or expiring
red whip also activates on MUL-T's power mode with some abilities like power saw and the base ability
I find the whole PSG OSP thing stupid because it implies that you're always going to be outhealing the shield regen, which is a maybe at best if you're both looping and tanking
After getting my first eclipse 8 win on loader gotta say that ghores tome is my best pal