Bondage of the Will: Willing to Believe with R.C. Sproul

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  • @ligonier
    @ligonier  4 роки тому +24

    This message is from Dr. Sproul’s 12-part teaching series Willing to Believe. Watch the entire series: www.ligonier.org/learn/series/willing_to_believe/

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 4 роки тому

      Is pastors teachings from the bible Mathew 24:24,2thimoty 4:3-4,2PETER 2:1-3,1JONH 4:1?

    • @Grace-nt9cc
      @Grace-nt9cc 4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for sharing this video, it's very important and helpful! 🥰🤗🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙏🏼

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 4 роки тому

      @@mitchellc4 Okay so who is the name of God Mathew 6:9,John 17:1-3,6,11-12,26?

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      @@vusimngomezulu2500
      Not sure I understand your question

  • @gaenorturner2894
    @gaenorturner2894 4 роки тому +16

    What treasures from Heaven fall upon me, deep true teaching, thank you so much.

  • @cheryladams9261
    @cheryladams9261 3 роки тому +18

    He was my favorite theologian! I will talk to him on the new heaven and earth

    • @thomasrusso8393
      @thomasrusso8393 2 роки тому +1

      An influencer and a person who meant what he said. Amen I will talk to him too when I'm in heaven.

  • @lisaroberts9613
    @lisaroberts9613 4 роки тому +23

    Glory be to God alone!😇🙏🏼😇

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

  • @BraydenWolframe
    @BraydenWolframe 4 роки тому +12

    Amen Sproul. Salvation is of God and God alone. May we seek the mercy and love of The Lord forevermore. God bless you all.

    • @starspangledbat
      @starspangledbat Рік тому +1

      @@mitchellc4 Jesus claimed to be God. He is God.

    • @starspangledbat
      @starspangledbat Рік тому +1

      @@mitchellc4 you can’t understand the Trinity. It’s easy. All in one the Holy Spirit is God, the Son is God, the Father is God. Because God is all powerful of course he can be 3 in 1 as he claims to be.

    • @ubergenie6041
      @ubergenie6041 5 місяців тому

      You can seek anything …didn’t you listen to Sproul’s teaching or Luther’s or Augustine’s man is not saved by God and then given free will😮 God’s sovereignty is a function of his complete control over man’s will. For more see John MacArthur, John Piper…or Luther’s response to Erasmus at 13:30 mins into this teaching …Erasmus claim is for both the chosen and reprobate and Luther responds neither have knowledge or freedom😊

  • @squadauto5567
    @squadauto5567 3 місяці тому +1

    I hope UA-cam is not hiding comments of those who disagree. we all need to read/hear all sides no matter how off the ideas may be. I for one fully embrace this biblical teaching

    • @HonorableMention83
      @HonorableMention83 3 місяці тому

      It's simple. Do you believe you're born dead spiritually?

  • @jlongamen
    @jlongamen 4 роки тому +7

    Classic rc i miss you learn a lot from this man God bless

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

  • @36742650885
    @36742650885 3 роки тому +5

    Please pray for me everyone that reads this I need the intercession of Gods Children thank you for considering
    I’m bound by dark forces...headaches constantly head pressure

  • @KenPotter
    @KenPotter Рік тому +4

    I wish I would've been Predestinated to be a teacher of Predestination.

  • @miguelpumarejo9413
    @miguelpumarejo9413 Рік тому +1

    I thank the Lord God for Dr. R..C. Sproul my pastor, teacher, mentor, & brother. I'm so honored that God lead me to Him thru His servant and and the ministry of Dr. Sproul and his ministry.
    My dream was always to meet him face to face always thinking what would I do when I get that chance.. lol he would have been very surprised because I would not have hesitated and wanted to kiss him all over his face like a grandpa (I think he would have gotten a little
    upset) lol lo... But u would have done it.. and pick him up in my arms as a son lololol does when he is reunited again with his Grandpa . I visited Dr. Sprouls College RBC . seeking to enroll as an alumni and to see him in Sanford. It took me a long time to travel there from Orlando But he was not at the time to here. I dontinue to follow him and his works that he has left for us to learn from for they are sound and true in doctrine and I know that the Lord glories in what He has left for His church in the years He has Dr. Sproul in this earth unspite that he is not physically here with us anymore I know that he is here in spirit and in the works and pen. I'm glad evermore that He is home with our Lord and in the presence if His beauty anjoying and serving such a merciful and deserving King, our Christ Jesus Christ.
    forgive me Lord for all my sins
    My desire to glorify you help me to
    do this right....
    Glory , honor and power to You
    Oh' Lord !
    ---. SDG .. !
    SINCERELY your son, Miguel.

  • @jesus_saves_from_hell_
    @jesus_saves_from_hell_ 3 роки тому +2

    Grace and peace! ✌😎✌

  • @jlongamen
    @jlongamen 4 роки тому +5

    And He said to me, “Son of man, can these bones live?” Ezekiel 37

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

    • @nikokapanen82
      @nikokapanen82 2 роки тому +1

      @@mitchellc4
      Jesus is the First and the Last, the Alpha and the Omega. He is the Resurrection and Life, He is the Truth.

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 2 роки тому

      @@nikokapanen82
      Hello
      He has a God
      Who is his God??
      Rom 15
      6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
      2 Cor 1
      3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
      2 Cor 11
      31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
      Eph 1
      3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
      Eph 1
      17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,
      Col 1
      3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,
      1 Pet 1
      3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
      Rev 1
      6 and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
      Rev 3
      12 He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.
      John 20
      17 Jesus said to her, “Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”

  • @tabasco7915
    @tabasco7915 2 роки тому +1

    This teaching causes me to go back and forth in my reasoning, not being sure where to land with conclusiveness.

    • @donaldjoy4023
      @donaldjoy4023 2 роки тому +1

      I know what you mean. Either we're robots, or we have legitimate reason to boast of making a righteous choice.

    • @TimonRamstein
      @TimonRamstein Рік тому

      I dont think we have reason to boast if we get that we choose God because he loves us

    • @tabasco7915
      @tabasco7915 Рік тому

      @@TimonRamstein Good point my friend. I guess it would depend on how we exercise our boasting.

  • @solideogloria1644
    @solideogloria1644 4 роки тому +4

    Christians ought to be more thankful for GOD’S FREE WILL. Without it, none of us would be saved.
    “Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.”
    ‭‭John‬ ‭8:34-36‬ ‭ESV‬‬

  • @cmdesign01
    @cmdesign01 2 роки тому +3

    I say bc God by his Holy Spirit gave me the ability to desire to ask him to reveal himself to me.

    • @cmdesign01
      @cmdesign01 2 роки тому

      @Shooting Star 2 Cor 10:17 …16so that we can preach the gospel in the regions beyond you. Then we will not be boasting in the work already done in another man’s territory. 17Rather, “Let him who boasts boast in the Lord.” 18For it is not the one who commends himself who is approved, but the one whom the Lord commends.

    • @cmdesign01
      @cmdesign01 2 роки тому

      @Shooting Star what do you mean by "still"

    • @cmdesign01
      @cmdesign01 2 роки тому

      @Shooting Star 1 Corinthians 4:3 ►
      Context Crossref Comment Greek
      Verse (Click for Chapter)
      New International Version
      I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself.

    • @cmdesign01
      @cmdesign01 2 роки тому

      @Shooting Star no….not accepting Arminianism. No.

    • @cmdesign01
      @cmdesign01 2 роки тому

      @Shooting Star when did I say faith plus works saves you

  • @matthewchulo7514
    @matthewchulo7514 3 роки тому +18

    The honest truth about predestination is that no person can fully comprehend it. The concept that God predestinated the elect for salvation and predestinated others for damnation is way above all understanding.

    • @evanu6579
      @evanu6579 3 роки тому +2

      It can be understood.

    • @matthewchulo7514
      @matthewchulo7514 3 роки тому +2

      @@evanu6579 to some degree yes, but our thoughts are far from God’s.

    • @evanu6579
      @evanu6579 3 роки тому

      @@matthewchulo7514
      Look at who the elect are that we’re chosen for salvation and who were hardened for judgement.....
      Isa 65:8 ¶ Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all.
      9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.
      10 And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks, and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in, for my people that have sought me.
      11 But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number.
      12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
      13 ¶ Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed:
      14 Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
      15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:
      What if this only pertained to Israel from whom the kingdom was being taken away from? What if the Gentiles were part of a category of whosoever will may come? We become elect and part of Israel when we believe.
      The faithful remnant were elect because they were faithful and they were predestined to be given to the Son.
      Whoever is in Christ is destined for the resurrection where at least three things will happen. We will be conformed to the image of Christ, we will receive the adoption and we will receive an inheritance.
      So if it’s based on everything mentioned in Isa 65 and Eze 34 and Mal 3&4 then we’re told what it’s about. We don’t have to wonder or guess.
      God bless.

    • @1974jrod
      @1974jrod 2 роки тому +2

      No, it's not above understanding. It's illogical. And one who believes the LOGOS ie The Logical One is permitted to contradict himself, neither understands God or logic.

    • @enfire2146
      @enfire2146 11 місяців тому

      So when you get to Heaven, and you say to God that you didn’t understand predestination as it was revealed in scripture, God will just pat you on the back and agree with you? I don’t think so. It’s made very clear.

  • @skcoll3086
    @skcoll3086 11 місяців тому +2

    The differences between Erasmus and Luther are settled down with the meeting between Jesus and Nicodemus. Nicodemus had to be born of the spirit ... That was and is is the work of God Himself ... It is not the work of the flesh and never has been ...

  • @derric0412
    @derric0412 4 роки тому +4

    If God predestined everything. Does that also mean we're robots? because no matter what we do God already knows before we even do them. I do agree with what RC is saying and i want to know more about God sovereignty.

    • @aleczamora6993
      @aleczamora6993 4 роки тому +1

      John Piper wrote a new book on providence I want to get it. You should check it out. I also recommend Loraine bottner’s book called Predestination. Or AW Pink’s book on The Sovereignty of God.

    • @irishhomedeemob677
      @irishhomedeemob677 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, it would mean robots !
      Robots have no will, they are programmed !
      God *chooses people for offices* aka positions in his Kingdom
      salvation is not an office/position, its an offer, to be accepted and respected!
      Ephesians 4 NOT ALL Are apostles...

    • @irishhomedeemob677
      @irishhomedeemob677 4 роки тому

      @@aleczamora6993
      Jesus completed the book of life why divert people to men ?

    • @carmensiekierke3579
      @carmensiekierke3579 4 роки тому

      @@aleczamora6993 John Piper believes in " final justification"......"second justification." Yes, if that sounds Roman Catholic....it is. I would suggest you do not purchase any new book.

    • @Jus4kiks
      @Jus4kiks 4 роки тому +3

      @@irishhomedeemob677 if you believe you have free will, why are you not able to not sin?

  • @BesomeTV
    @BesomeTV 2 роки тому

    This is a tough one because for us to love we have to make a choice and it's a free will choice.

    • @UnknownUser-dy6ij
      @UnknownUser-dy6ij 2 роки тому +1

      1 John 4 19 and 20 says We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.

    • @kylestaack38
      @kylestaack38 Рік тому +2

      Free will is not in the bible.. not one verse says or will is free . Or Free will in any verse. Were Free to make choices but will and choices are not the same. Elect,predestined, chosen, and called are in the word of God but not free will. We ether let the word of God change us or we change the word of God. Sent with love by the lord and His spirit Amen 🙏

    • @vitaignis5594
      @vitaignis5594 Рік тому

      ​@@kylestaack38the early church fathers who received the Apostolic tradition would vehemently disagree with your claim. In his battle against the gnostic heretics, Ireneaus, a disciple of Polycarp wrote, "This expression [of our Lord], How often would I have gathered your children together, and you would not, Matthew 23:37 set forth the ancient law of human liberty, because God made man a free [agent] from the beginning, possessing his own power, even as he does his own soul, to obey the behests (ad utendum sententia) of God voluntarily, and not by compulsion of God. For there is no coercion with God, but a good will [towards us] is present with Him continually. And therefore does He give good counsel to all. And in man, as well as in angels, He has placed the power of choice (for angels are rational beings), so that those who had yielded obedience might justly possess what is good, given indeed by God, but preserved by themselves. On the other hand, they who have not obeyed shall, with justice, be not found in possession of the good, and shall receive condign punishment: for God did kindly bestow on them what was good; but they themselves did not diligently keep it, nor deem it something precious, but poured contempt upon His super-eminent goodness. Rejecting therefore the good, and as it were spuing it out, they shall all deservedly incur the just judgment of God, which also the Apostle Paul testifies in his Epistle to the Romans, where he says, But do you despise the riches of His goodness, and patience, and long-suffering, being ignorant that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? But according to your hardness and impenitent heart, you store to yourself wrath against the day of wrath, and the revelation of the righteous judgment of God. But glory and honour, he says, to every one that does good. God therefore has given that which is good, as the apostle tells us in this Epistle, and they who work it shall receive glory and honour, because they have done that which is good when they had it in their power not to do it; but those who do it not shall receive the just judgment of God, because they did not work good when they had it in their power so to do."
      Many other citations from the early church fathers can be provided as well but I think John Calvin himself clearly demonstrates which side has the most patristic support "Further, even though the Greeks above the rest-and Chrysostom especially among them-extol the ability of the human will."

    • @bryonstevenson1084
      @bryonstevenson1084 2 місяці тому

      ​@@kylestaack38 The word Bible is not in the bible so what's your point.

  • @yohabi4738
    @yohabi4738 4 місяці тому

    I think people will try but they can't on their own, only God can help them.

  • @_E.S.C._
    @_E.S.C._ 4 роки тому +10

    With the level of ignorance in the comments, it’s as if they didn’t even watch the entire video.

    • @kevinprendiville9429
      @kevinprendiville9429 4 роки тому +6

      Its sad really, we don't even know our own theology anymore.

    • @kevinprendiville9429
      @kevinprendiville9429 4 роки тому +1

      @KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC When you put it that way, I guess it's not hard to see why heretics like Joel Olsteen have taken over the Church

    • @jerryvivanco4898
      @jerryvivanco4898 4 роки тому

      Agreed!!

    • @_E.S.C._
      @_E.S.C._ 4 роки тому +1

      @@kevinprendiville9429 Taken over the church?? No, not the true church, Christ would never allow that.

    • @williamcopeland6683
      @williamcopeland6683 4 роки тому

      It's been said that the Holy Bible is like a lion.. just let it out of its cage and it is more than Capable of defending Itself
      It's pretty clear, we have too many lion tamers

  • @deanfloyd8931
    @deanfloyd8931 2 роки тому +2

    Fallen man has a great religeous propensity, with no means of attaining righteousness.

    • @deanfloyd8931
      @deanfloyd8931 2 роки тому +2

      @@apostasiaelegcho5612 In my current view, Adam was the only man with real choice. Adam's fallen offspring can't seek God, only those which God quickens. From fallen Adam till our day, man always resorts to sewing fig leaves together. Man isn't sick in need of a doctor, man is dead needing life.

  • @caroladams8666
    @caroladams8666 2 роки тому +1

    Soli Deo gloria!

  • @jimmattson8008
    @jimmattson8008 20 днів тому

    His manner of speech is most flattering. But if one third of the Angels in heaven had free will to rebel against God, so does mankind. Satan would be most happy to take away your free will and leave you with doubts and confusion. John 6:40 The Will of the Father is that all who believe in Jesus Christ will have eternal life. Do you now deny your free will to choose Jesus?

  • @JohnMoog-ug6bk
    @JohnMoog-ug6bk Рік тому

    “You take pains to engender ignorance” - this was a friendly debate?

  • @tedmartinez8310
    @tedmartinez8310 8 місяців тому

    Hello greetings I have a question didn’t god chose me ? If somebody asks me why I’m a Christian I would say because god chose me because I in my fallen condition never looked for god until someone told me about the gospel. Correct me if I’m wrong 🙏

    • @HonorableMention83
      @HonorableMention83 3 місяці тому

      You're wrong if it's as you say. You say it'd because of you. Romans 11, 7.

  • @mitchellc4
    @mitchellc4 4 роки тому +1

    The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
    Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
    Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
    Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
    John 17
    3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
    RSV
    Only-monos
    God-theos
    Monos theos
    Monotheism
    The Father
    Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
    Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
    Jesus has a God!
    Jesus died!
    God can’t die!
    God raised Jesus from the dead!

  • @JT-ix8ku
    @JT-ix8ku 4 роки тому +1

    “Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.”
    ‭‭John‬ ‭8:34-36‬ ‭ESV‬‬
    Free will is a cute concept accept for the fact that GOD says above that we are NOT FREE....maybe I’m oversimplifying, but then I think about some of the stronger language in the Word like “blind” (Matthew 15:14) and “dead” (Colossians 2:13) and if that’s not compelling enough....I look at behaviors, Adam and Eve ran from GOD, not to Him (Genesis 3:8) and a few generations after the flood Abraham was worshiping idols until GOD called(Joshua 24:2), but I’m no scholar and I’m willing to learn : )

  • @henryplays6251
    @henryplays6251 2 роки тому

    Jesus saves

  • @TimonRamstein
    @TimonRamstein Рік тому

    I agree insofar, that we dont have a free will to abstain from sin out of willpower. I view sin as a state in which we fo everything out of selfishness. The only free choice we have is weather we surrender or we dont. And there is no need for boasting because we surrender to God not only because hes good but because we trust him that its the best we can do. I think the point is trust.

  • @jayahladas692
    @jayahladas692 2 роки тому +1

    If "No free will to choose" were true then the Judgment Seat of Christ and the Great White Throne Judgment (which haven't happened yet) would be a joke. Think on these things:. how could souls be judged and held responsible if their actions had been predestined with no free will? That would be such a cruel and unjust God!

    • @nikokapanen82
      @nikokapanen82 2 роки тому

      Then you have to listen this video once again. Sproul specifically explained that we choose freely to sin, because we want to sin, that is our nature and this nature will be judged by God.

    • @jayahladas692
      @jayahladas692 2 роки тому

      @@nikokapanen82 "believe, trust, if you, whosoever will, have faiith, choose," etc., accept or reject NOW, , hundreds of salvation verses. Why would God say that if you couldn't? a false illusion? No, I'll trust him at His word and choose to believe and Know I have eternal life! The End.

    • @nikokapanen82
      @nikokapanen82 2 роки тому

      @@jayahladas692
      Without God giving you Grace which enables you to even care about such things as God and afterlife, you would still live in the world without caring about God.

    • @jayahladas692
      @jayahladas692 2 роки тому

      @@nikokapanen82 Romans 1-2 --Even those who haven't heard of God or Jesus are without excuse. I will answer to choose to believe

    • @nikokapanen82
      @nikokapanen82 2 роки тому

      @@jayahladas692
      You would not care about God if God would not first care about you.

  • @exclusivejones
    @exclusivejones 4 роки тому +2

    The Freewiller Believes in His Own Freewill.
    The freewiller does not believe or trust God.
    He knows it’s very dangerous to do that.
    Sure God got things started with creation and all… but obviously things went wildly wrong.
    Evil, sin, satan, so many things.
    The freewiller looks at these things and knows for sure that God is not in ultimate control. That what God is really doing these days is DAMAGE CONTROL. - Not “ultimate control”.
    Therefore, the freewiller MUST use his own freewill to ensure the best possible outcome for himself. He must freely “believe” - or all is lost.
    So the freewiller freely “believes” his belief will ensure his own salvation.
    After all, everyone knows “God is the perfect gentleman” and would never use “force” “causality” or “influence” on someone against their will.
    So, the freewiller uses the power of his own freewill to maximize his chances of happiness, success and eternal life in heaven.
    The freewiller must use his freewill to make the right choices in life, decide correctly which path to take, determine for himself the final outcome.
    No question about it.
    Never mind that the scripture says…
    1. All is out of, through and for God.
    2. It is not of him that willeth.
    3. God locks up all in stubbornness.
    4. That God operates all things after the council of his own will.
    5. That God gives life and breath and all to all.
    6. etc.

    • @lauriebryant8527
      @lauriebryant8527 4 роки тому

      Im sorry, but what you've typed is foolishness. If someone breaks into your home & attempts to rape you & your family, if you do not respond with your "free will", then something traumatic will commence. Would you stand aside & say to yourself, "God knows, he will take care of this" or would you save your family & babies lives from becoming rape victims bt defending them like a good man should?
      I feel that you need to get out of your house more. We have a dual nature to our makeup like Christ. Sometimes you need to nurture that lion you've got inside of you

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

    • @exclusivejones
      @exclusivejones 4 роки тому

      @@mitchellc4 "AND CERTAIN MEN CAME FROM JAMES"... From Galatians 2.
      I don't pay much attention to the gospel of the kingdom... instead... I love the gospel of grace, presented by Paul, he is our apostle.
      Peter, James and John... not so much.

  • @justintan1198
    @justintan1198 8 місяців тому

    👍

  • @ErictheCleric1
    @ErictheCleric1 3 роки тому +1

    Shoutout to Robert Barclay the great Quaker Theologian
    "First we may call this doctrine(Calvinism) a novelty, seeing that for the first four hundred years after christ there is no mention of it. The first foundations for it were in the writings of Augustine, who, in his warring against Pelagius, let fall some expressions which some have unhappily picked up to the establishment of this error."

    • @hlsb4771
      @hlsb4771 2 роки тому

      You forgot Paul, ..." For Jacob I loved but Esau I hated"

    • @hexahexametermeter
      @hexahexametermeter 2 роки тому

      Jacob and Esau has nothing to do with eternal election. Paul explicitly says later on that the branches cut off will be grafted back in.

    • @hexahexametermeter
      @hexahexametermeter 2 роки тому

      Ephesians speaks more specifically to predestination.

  • @alwillett1114
    @alwillett1114 4 роки тому +1

    The only people who had free will from beginning was Adam & Eve until the fall and Jesus, who never lost it. Everyone else were born in a state of fallenness, therefore a state of slavery to sin. It is only when the Son sets us free that we are able to come to Jesus. “if the Son will make you free, you will be free indeed.”John 8:36

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

  • @vitaignis5594
    @vitaignis5594 9 місяців тому

    I wonder what the early Church Fathers who received the Truth from the Apostles thought on this issue. I wonder why we only hear about Augustine and then the reformers. Seems like a lot of Church history either didn't happen or is ignored. Very suspicious. I wonder why.

    • @SugoiEnglish1
      @SugoiEnglish1 8 місяців тому

      Slow down here. You are parroting arguments from non-Calvinists who have no educational background in Church History. Here is a source that goes through the pre-Augustine Fathers and their views on TULIP. Please educate yourself.
      www.monergism.com/thethreshold/sdg/gill/The%20Cause%20of%20God%20and%20Truth%20-%20Gill.pdf

  • @joshbaynard2527
    @joshbaynard2527 4 роки тому +1

    Election

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

    • @joshbaynard2527
      @joshbaynard2527 4 роки тому

      @@mitchellc4 Jesus said he was in the Father and the Father in HIM. The 2 are 1. Jesus is the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE. No man can repent without him and he has to elect you in order for that to be done....not the other way around lest any man should boast. You have to be born agin. He gives the Faith to begin with. He gives the salvation. He does the work on that not us. You cannot work your way to heaven. You cannot be humanly baptised enough. You cannot take enough communion. You cannot dress good enough. You cannot get clean enough. You cannot pray enough. You cannot do nothing enough except believe on Jesus that he can and will and already has.

    • @GazGuitarz
      @GazGuitarz 4 роки тому

      @@joshbaynard2527 Amen!

  • @andrewkekoslovealltoday9143
    @andrewkekoslovealltoday9143 4 роки тому

    Name important.. represent someone .if specific
    The Andrew K. Paper Theology
    Thanx
    T.M.Nature Theology of New

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

    • @GazGuitarz
      @GazGuitarz 4 роки тому

      @@mitchellc4 Actually, Jesus raised himself from the dead, God only gave him the "authority" to do so.
      John 10:17-19 17 The reason the Father loves Me is that I lay down My life in order to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from My Father. 19 Again there was division among the Jews because of Jesus’ message.
      Berean Study Bible
      Notice the "I" lay down my life and "I" have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. Authority is power. In this case it is God's power.
      I completely agree with your first statements. The Kingdom of Heaven will be on Earth.
      However, just as the Jews were divided by Messiah's words in John 10:17-19, so too do Christians seem to divide themselves over these words. Unitarian/Trinitarian? If you stop looking at the Trinity as 3 gods (which it never was) you will see that everything harmonises quite well.
      Are we agreed that Jesus Messiah is the word of God manifest in flesh? How then do you explain John 1:1-3?
      1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
      Berean Study Bible
      It seems fairly straight forward to me. If Jesus is God's word manifest then he is something from God. Just as your word is something from you! "The word was God" John 1:1 tells us this. Is your word a part of you or something else entirely different?
      What about Pliny the Younger's epistle to Emperor Trajan describing Christian practices? Pliny details the practices of Christians (sections 7-10): he says that they meet on a certain day before light where they gather and sing hymns to Christ as to a god. Do you think Pliny may have misunderstood them? Personally, I think he'd seen enough worship of different gods to know what basic worship looked like.
      As you are no doubt aware, the debate continues between Unitarians and Trinitarians. In my humble opinion it is a wasteful, divisive and distracting debate.
      May Heavenly Father bless and bring peace upon both you and your family.

  • @irishhomedeemob677
    @irishhomedeemob677 4 роки тому

    The shadows of reality in the OT see election as corporate body to be holy in a covenant relationship with Yahweh and to bless nations ...
    On the topic of *will" in the NT, a remnant of carnal Israel was indeed chosen and elected by God, as he is consistent with his promises to them for a new covenant in hearts and minds to bless people of the nations.
    The people of the nations are offered reconciliation to be accepted or rejected.2 Corinthians chapters 5
    They are invited to the wedding.
    The Spirit and the bride says *come*
    We are invited to the wedding!
    Not all are the chosen virgin bride aka *first fruits* since they are chosen picked first fruits
    IMHO the rapture started in 70 AD when the old covenant was judged and the new wedding began with the chosen remnant Bride .
    The Spirit and the Bride says *COME*
    Shalom in Christ
    Revelation chapters 20, 21, 22, 7, 14.
    The Babylon woman is the broken covenant people of God . The bride is the New Woman . Apostles and those chosen to offices in the KOG Ephesians 4

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

    • @GazGuitarz
      @GazGuitarz 4 роки тому

      Congratulations for mentioning the "The New Covenant" HalleluYah! Just as the "Kingdom of God" (The Gospel that Jesus came preaching) is rarely preached from pulpits or discussed, the "New Covenant" is neglected to an even larger degree.
      Matthew 26:28 "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." NKJB
      Jesus' blood ratifies the New Covenant. This is extremely important but unfortunately rarely talked about.
      May Heavenly Father bless and bring peace upon both you and your family.

  • @josephbuell963
    @josephbuell963 10 місяців тому

    All mankind was predestined to accept Christ…they choose to do so is up to them. Christ died for all on the basis that they choose.

    • @howardluber363
      @howardluber363 9 місяців тому +1

      Predestined by whom? If you say God then you represent Him as an impotent hand - wringer waiting with baited breath for you to believe. He is the sovereign giver of life in Christ Who changes human hearts and gives the gift of faith so you can believe. Eph. 2: 8,9 and Rom. 9:15.
      God bless.

  • @ivansequeira6945
    @ivansequeira6945 Рік тому

    Before Augustine they believe in freewill. Check out the writings of the early church fathers. Augustine came wirh a total different undestanding. Checkout for youselves...

  • @vusimngomezulu2500
    @vusimngomezulu2500 4 роки тому

    Is pastors teachings from the bible Mathew 24:24,2thimoty 4:3-4,2PETER 2:1-3,1JONH 4:1?

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

  • @irishhomedeemob677
    @irishhomedeemob677 4 роки тому

    God's choosing is for *offices* in the KOG. This chosen bride blesses humanity...ephesians 4
    21“What do you want? ” he asked her. “Promise,”fn she said to him, “that these two sons of mine may sit, one on your right and the other on your left, in your kingdom.”
    22 Jesus answered, “You don’t know what you’re asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink? ”fn “We are able,” they said to him.
    23 He told them, “You will indeed drink my cup,fn but to sit at my right and left is not mine to give; instead, it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.”
    Matthew 20
    Who is Bride, that is chosen?
    Who are the nations that are blessed by the Bride ? Revelation 21 and 22
    Rethorical question!
    The Spirit *AND THE BRIDE* says come !
    Which of you will be martyred ?

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

    • @intothekey
      @intothekey Рік тому

      @@mitchellc4 Jesus also raised Jesus and the Holy Spirit also raised Jesus. Arianism is nothing but a dead end. Jesus the man died but God (Jesus) didn't die that's He rose from the dead. Not just by the Father's Authority but by His own.

  • @jimkraft9445
    @jimkraft9445 4 роки тому +2

    First John 2:2. Christ died for the sins of the whole world. First Timothy 2:4 God is not willing that any should perish, but all should believe and be saved. John six:47.
    God gave man a free will to either accept His free gift of eternal life, or not. But once we accept it it can not be changed back. Romans 11:29 For the GIFTS, ETERNAL LIFE, and the calling of God is without repentance. Irrevocable, can not be changed back.
    God is no respecter of persons. He will save anyone who believes on His name for the free gift of eternal life. First Corinthians 1:23.
    The TULIP is the devils flower. We do not persevere in the faith to stay saved. Why would you persevere to get something you already have. ETERNAL LIFE. Second Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, after we have once believed, He abideth faithful, He can not deny Him self. Ephesians 1:13 Born again when we believe. John 3:sixteen:18. The simplicity of the gospel is the gospel. First Corinthians 15:1-4. First John 5:13.These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.

    • @edwinhendricks
      @edwinhendricks 4 роки тому +1

      If we were given free will and created in the image of God; God’s grace is borne of love for us. Love is not forced, we choose and we can reject it. How do you build a relationship with one party not interested or rejecting in doing so. In Revelation Jesus says that He can blot your name out of the book of life. That is why we must remain with our First Love.

    • @jimkraft9445
      @jimkraft9445 4 роки тому

      First Timothy 2:4 If we believe not, after we have once believed, He abideth faithful, He can not deny Himself. Ephesians 1:13-14. When we are born in to this world we are born of the flesh. Our mothers water breaks and we are born of water. Our first birth. When we trust Jesus as the only way of salvation apart from works, He imputes His perfect righteousness to us, and will no more impute sin to our account. Romans 4:5-8.
      Our name is written in the book of life when we are born. Our name is written in the Lambs book of life when we are born again, by the Holy Spirit of promise. That name can never be removed. Eternal life is a free gift from God and can not be revoked.
      Romans 11:29 For the gifts, eternal life, and the calling of God, is without repentance. Irrevocable, Can not be changed back. John 3:18 Romans 11:six. AMAZING GRACE, JESUS PAID IT ALL AND WE PAID 0. IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD, NOT OF WORKS, LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST. YOU CAN NOT BOAST IN FREE Ephesians 2:8-9. Faith is not the gift, eternal life is the gift when we believe it. John six:40 and John six:29
      First John 5:13 These things have i written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God can not lie. John six:47

    • @edwinhendricks
      @edwinhendricks 4 роки тому +1

      @@jimkraft9445 Revelation 3:3-5
      Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.
      Yet you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes. They will walk with me, dressed in white, for they are worthy. The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels.

    • @jimkraft9445
      @jimkraft9445 4 роки тому

      Believers and unbelievers under grace. Not the tribulation saints. John six:40 Ephesians 2:8-9. Matthew 7:21-23 Those that trust in their own works are not saved. Only those who have done the will of His Father in heaven. John six:40 and John six:29.
      Galatians 2:21 I do not void the grace of God, for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Saved by faith alone apart from works which can not save a sinner. Our best works can not save us. Only Jesus finished work on the cross plus noting. John 3:sixteen. For God so loved the word, everybody, that He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, that WHOSOEVER, BELIEVETH IN HIM, should not perish, but HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. Jesus said it, we believe it, and that settles it. John 3:18

    • @edwinhendricks
      @edwinhendricks 4 роки тому

      @@jimkraft9445 misalignment my friend!

  • @όαγωνιστής-θ6θ
    @όαγωνιστής-θ6θ 4 роки тому

    Luther is a heresiarch and will be punished for the evils he unleashed on the world.

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
      Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
      Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
      Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
      John 17
      3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
      RSV
      Only-monos
      God-theos
      Monos theos
      Monotheism
      The Father
      Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
      Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
      Jesus has a God!
      Jesus died!
      God can’t die!
      God raised Jesus from the dead!

    • @όαγωνιστής-θ6θ
      @όαγωνιστής-θ6θ 4 роки тому

      @@mitchellc4 Jesus did claim to be God, and he was and is still God. You have fallen prey to ancient heresies.

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      @@όαγωνιστής-θ6θ
      So Jesus is God and Jesus has a God??
      Who is the God of Jesus?
      Rom 15
      6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
      2 Cor 1
      3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
      2 Cor 11
      31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
      Eph 1
      3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
      Eph 1
      17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,
      Col 1
      3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,
      1 Pet 1
      3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

    • @όαγωνιστής-θ6θ
      @όαγωνιστής-θ6θ 4 роки тому

      @@mitchellc4 good job, you’ve quote-mined the NT for out of context verses that fit your argument

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 4 роки тому

      @@όαγωνιστής-θ6θ
      I don’t think so, are you trying to say the context means he doesn’t have a God??? I don’t think so
      Jesus has a God
      Who is the God of Jesus?
      Rom 15
      6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
      2 Cor 1
      3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
      2 Cor 11
      31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
      Eph 1
      3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
      Eph 1
      17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,
      Col 1
      3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,
      1 Pet 1
      3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

  • @jimkraft9445
    @jimkraft9445 4 роки тому

    Calvinism is so Stupid that a person can read John 3:sixteen and not believe it unless God gives us the faith to believe it? What? Can you not read and believe what is says? John six:47 You either believe it or you don't. Romans 1:sixteen.

  • @irishhomedeemob677
    @irishhomedeemob677 4 роки тому

    Adam had free will to choose to obey God or the satan !
    Romans 5:14
    The whole point of human existence is a test of our motivation aka *WILL* ! To see are we worthy of the free gift of immortality as Sons of the most high God ..Yahweh!
    Deutoronmy 8:2
    If we are not faithful in human skin, we will not be faithful in immortality!
    Luke 12:48
    Little Johnny does not get the keys of daddy's new car (that would be irresponsible) until he is matured for purpose!
    2 peter 1:2-11
    10Therefore, brothers and sisters, make every *effort* to confirm your calling and election, because *if you do these things* you will never stumble.
    11 *For in this way* , entry into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ *will be richly provided for you* .

    • @solideogloria1644
      @solideogloria1644 4 роки тому +8

      You’re wrong: the purpose of humanity is not to test our will, but to glorify God. This is why you’re having trouble understanding what the Scriptures actually teaches - you have the wrong presupposition. I’d wager that you cannot deal with texts like this in Romans 9 because it demonstrates that God’s main concern is not you or anybody else for that matter, but HIS GLORY. “So then, it does not depend on human desire or exertion, but on God who shows mercy. For the scripture says to Pharaoh: “ For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may demonstrate my power in you, and that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth.” So then, God has mercy on whom he chooses to have mercy, and he hardens whom he chooses to harden.”
      ‭‭Romans‬ ‭9:16-18‬ Btw, what Paul is referring to when he says “it doesn’t depend”, the “it” is salvation. You can go read it in context if you want to disagree with me, but that’s what it’s about

    • @irishhomedeemob677
      @irishhomedeemob677 4 роки тому

      @@solideogloria1644
      God is not glorified by evil if he is responsible for people's choices who have no will as you say,, but God's will !

    • @irishhomedeemob677
      @irishhomedeemob677 4 роки тому

      @@solideogloria1644
      We glorify God by submitting to his will as Jesus did. Animals cant submit to God's will !

    • @solideogloria1644
      @solideogloria1644 4 роки тому +5

      Irish Home DeeMob I knew you wouldn’t be able to deal with Romans 9. And are you saying the rest of creation doesn’t glorify God because it can’t submit? Romans 1 would like a word with you. Also, God will be glorified by evil because He will judge...It looks like you didn’t go read Romans 9. God hardens hearts SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of glorifying himself. “Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory- even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?”
      ‭‭Romans‬ ‭9:21-24

    • @irishhomedeemob677
      @irishhomedeemob677 4 роки тому

      @@solideogloria1644
      Amazing that you can say God's qualities of patience and mercy on vessels of wrath, and at the same time blame God for hardening their heart ! LOL ...