Watch these videos, but more importantly, PRACTICE, you can’t work on your game when the lights come on. I’m in year 8 of bowling ever, 178 year one, 218 year 7 I’m currently at a 223 this year. I have 4 299s and 2 300s, high series of 792. I’m 41, started at 33, doesn’t matter when you start, you have to work to improve. I practice all year. Keep grinding y’all!
I have found out a couple things that really help me. Number one: Mental game. Montra: Just throw strikes the score will take of itself. If I roll strikes I know I will make my avg over and over again. Two: Makeable spares: Hit your spares. If you leave a stone nine or eight.. make them. If you leave the bucket, make it. Leave a ten pin. Hit it. Practice ten pins during your practice warmup. I roll more at the ten pin during practice than I do strike shots. I hit the pocket easily, I don't always hit the ten pin. Practice it. Play lowball when you are at your House practicing. Ten pins kill scores more than any other pin or split.Three: No open frames. Try and keep a clean game. This alone will increase your avg substantionally. Four, score: I never look at the score. Not my score, not my teams score. I don't keep count of how many frames I have bowled even. Somebody will let me know when it's the tenth frame and I have to keep rolling. I can't tell you how much pressure that takes off of me. Not worrying if I have to do something to try and win the game. I just keep rolling until someone tells me game is over. When I practice by myself, I'm always surprised when I do look up and see I'm actually three or four frames into the next game. Just keep rolling. Five... have fun.It's not life or death if you miss a shot. Your family still loves you. You still get your birthday. Your dog still thinks you are the greatest thing on earth. Have fun. Using these rules for me, took me from that 170ish to 215ish bowler. I don't have great revs or speed. Down and in. 285-325 revs, and 16-18mph depending on my angles. Practice ten pins. Then practice more ten pins. Then practice even more ten pins. Thanks guys, great vids.
Glad you posted this. For the 1st time in 25 years I had a 3 game series without a double. Strike..7 pin, strike... 4 pin, strike..... 8 pin. Just could not get 2 strikes in a row. Saw things I'll try next Monday.
I did the same thing 3 weeks ago, no doubles, couldn't strike on the left lane, very frustrating... then bounced back the next week with a 621 series with plenty of strikes.
The biggest thing I see among people who are kinda perma stuck in the 190's is missing easy spares. They just give back too many doubles too frequently. Obviously not all houses and league patterns are equal, but most pretty getable houses don't require you to have a great physical game to average 200. You'll back your way into a look for a window often enough to throw some strikes.
I really enjoyed this video- thank you. Started hot this league season, crashed and burned a few weeks, and then came back with my highest series ever. This gives me a handful of practical tips I can apply this week in practice and at league. Well done!
Love this content!! It's so true with being able to throw different shots and the ability and willingness to move from your starting position. Just shot my best league 3 game series of 798, started off pretty straight at 10 with a strong ball and ended up almost in the gutter on the left side by game 3 with the attention star
The mental game is definitely *HUGE.* My best game ever, I wasn't focused on any particular goals and just throwing one shot at a time. I noticed my strikes stringing up but intentionally ignored it. Then, after getting the front eight, someone in the next lane said something about it and I 6-10'd the last two frames, missing on the first attempt to pick it up.
Guys, I’m still technically a rookie/Southmore the most I’ve ever thrown for strikes in a row was born in a row, but I went open bowling recently. I finally got down to only one open frame, which I’ve been having a lot of trouble with open frames for a while I got it down to one about a week ago, which made me happy. The most strikes in a row I’ve ever ever thrown was a handbone one time
I hear what you're saying, control the pocket, select the right ball, use some versatility, keep a positive mind and take a few lessons. Got it!! Hopefully now I can increase my scores. Thanks brad and Kyle I'm going to crush it in league next Monday.
Hi guys. I am a member of your Coaching Community! I had to wait a few weeks. Thanks for all the videos you've posted and I'm looking forward to working with you. Let's bowl!
He said I thought you were going to say for sure would be first thing making your spares. Believe makeable spares eyeball 170 180 almost every week and I leave at least 2 to 3 opens every game lol😂 Great video!
I bowled league tonight after watching the video this afternoon. I focused on three things: 1) control the pocket, 2) don't worry about score, and 3) ball choice. I am your target audience, 175 avg bowler. First game I rolled 245. Just like you said, I didn't pay attention to the score. Honestly, my teammate said, nice 5-bagger. I didn't know! Of course, next shot I yanked it a bit, but still made the spare. In the early part of game 2, I switched balls from a Hyroad to a Phaze 2. I thought the Hyroad wasn't coming into the pocket as strongly as it did. I moved in 6 boards from 17 to 23 and made the Phaze 2 work, a little slower, giving it time. Game 2: 187, Game 3: 205, 637 overall. To thank you enough, I will join B&K bowling. See you there.
I never look at the score while I bowl… The score doesn’t matter, I’m still gonna try my best every single time I go up there so there’s no need to put any of that in my head 😎
Swtiching balls is something I really need to do more of at league. All though its not a huge issue for me as it would be for others. We only have a 2 team league and i'm a lefty so I rarely have anyone challenging my oil so i'm never sure if its just better to adjust or change balls when my ball isn't doing what it normally does.
I love you guys you are doing such a tremendous job explaining and showing things easy understandable for anybody. And it‘s such a lot of fun seeing your great interaction. Both of you are great bowlers and your tips are so fantastic on the point. I really love watching it. I wish I could soon meet with you guys. I‘m coming to the USA in Spring 25 latest.
I watched this video ( my average is currently 172) just bowled 3 games for Leage games all over 200 average for those games was 209. Still working on adjustments Only have a summit Peak and a spare ball so no ball to ball up or ball down with
I’m happy you mentioned the expectations of shooting high. I just recently switched to 2 hands due to my neck surgery and man it’s difficult to stay consistent. Hardest part is keeping the weight of the ball on my left hand since I was one handed for about 15 years. Shot 690 Monday and 533 last night. Sucks going from a230 average and finishing in the top five at tournaments to not being considered a threat on the lanes anymore. Hopefully I can keep improving to get back to where I used to be or even better.
Attempting to learn a new style can always be challenging. Your dedication to the sport is extremely admirable. Let us know if we can help you on this two handed journey, maybe we can get back to 230 avg!
I just started bowling league again after like 10 years and currently using just 1 ball. Been averaging about 220 ish but really really need to bowling balls in my aresenal
Thanks for posting this video. I'm a 170 average house league bowler but I've been trying to improve my game and I'm struggling really hard, I'm thinking too much and I'm worrying about every little thing. I want to slide better, I want more revs, I want to learn how to manipulate my wrist. All those thoughts are going through my head and making me tense up. There are no in person coaches in my area but I think I need to step out of my comfort zone and try some online coaching.
Please respond with your thoughts guys. Game 1 on the china - 9/ X X X 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 8/ (ball change for the fill shot) X. Not a "bad" game, but i left a different pin for almost every 9 count, hitting the pocket each shot. How many micro adjustments would you make before switching balls?
Seems like you need to work on release and speed consistency. You can hit the pocket a lot of different ways but if you release it slightly different each time your ball will hit the pins differently. So pay attention to how your ball is driving through the pins and where in the pocket the ball is hitting. And if you leave a 7, 8 and 10 in consecutive frames and you think you’ve hit the same place in the pocket every time ask someone else to either watch for you or record it and let you know where you’re actually hitting the pocket.
@@kenthansonThanks for response. This is my 43rd league season. My speed is actually very consistent (I mostly use my legs). I can maintain at 17.1-17.2mph on lanes that have a speed monitor. I also pay attention to my release, so the swing and the axis rotation is also pretty consistent. My house uses very low volume, so the lanes can change pretty fast. I may try changing balls after 2 pocket 9's. Thanks again.
After the ball change, 227 game 2, then 215 in game 3 after ball changing balls again after 3 - 9's in a row. I can sometimes roll 9 strikes in a row, but I need to decide faster when to change balls.
And make the makeable spares. I swear the 10 pin costs me 30 points on my average. Today I shot 4 games of practice, shooting by ‘dimes’. I think I have a system that works for my basically down and up 10 game. I have a mental and physical problem when I start to move too left. I bowl bettercollapsing down my angles, even making the 10 with a plastic ball of course.
It would cool to find a hit point idea. You guys should make a video about the geometric place you have to hit the head pin within the pocket to strike. Of course there’s many ways to strike. But if I had a single spot on the head pin I’m trying to hit it would help me a lot
I’m more focusing on the most flush spot to hit. As a scratch golfer I’m able to focus in on centermeters. The space the hit in between the pocket is too big of a target which causes me to miss
Thanks for the tips guys. You talk about visual out in front of the bowler, however you never mention where your feet are starting exactly. Which dots for your feet correspond to the inside & straight line approaches?
I have been struggling ever since I developed problems with my feet. Metatarsagia and a hammer toe in the left and a year later metatarsagia in the right. I had surgery on the left that went well. But through it all my balance suffered and I developed some really bad habits. I was pushing so hard to get back on track but my average was plummeting. Last week a fellow bowler came over to me and politely asked if it would be okay to offer an opinion. I said yes. He told me if I videotaped myself I would see that my body is twisting and moving all over the place. He said that Kyle Troupe in a tournament, while bowling poorly, wrote a note to himself that said “quiet mind, quiet body”. He said perhaps I should take a deep breath and say those words before my shots. I did and everything changed. My first near 600 series in well over a year. Sometimes without knowing it you can try so hard you lose perspective.
I bowl my best when I focus on making the best shot each time with the right ball and in the right position on the lanes. I watch the other bowlers, who know the game very well and see what changes they are making to stay in the pocket too.
I struggle with tip #1 the most. Just having the courage to make a change on the approach when I need to. Too often, I find myself leaving stone 10s or 7s and thinking, "Okay, I *know* need to move in, but how many boards? Should I move my eyes, too? Is it the ball? Is it ME??" And then I end up lining up the exact same way because I freak out. 😆 That said, I did shoot 658 in league Tuesday night, so I'm doing something right.
I feel very mixed. Like I can bowl above 160, but there’s just games where I just can’t hit the pocket. And I’m only stuck with one ball because I’m poor and my parents ain’t gonna get me a new one. What a fun time🙃
We have actually created an entire lane pattern course that goes over how to deal with transition on SPECIFIC PATTERNS! Check out bradandkylebowling.com to learn more about how to navigate various conditions
I want to know is my arsenal is ideal for league. My bowlings balls are Storm Virtual Energy Black Out, Brunswick Rhino pro (blue one), Storm Phase II and a Colombia White Dot Diamond to pick up the 10 pin. Do you have suggestions to improve my arsenal or what I have it's ok?
I have the opposite problem with my scores in league. I start off trash and get better. As a lefty where I bowling can’t seem to get lined up early damn near with any ball in my arsenal. A ton of over under.
One tip I and many some others is what can you do when you constantly leave ringing 10 pins no mater what you try ,move back ,move draper into the oil ?
Not all pocket hits are equal and if you’re consistently ringing tens that means you aren’t hitting it right. Now how to adjust for it depends on your skill set. I prefer to take a little speed off so the ball will pick up a bit earlier and hopefully hit higher in the pocket. You can also go one and one with your feet and target but I’ve found that people end up in the same spot even if they move their feet unless they have excellent body control. Here’s a quick video that explains why you’ll ring a ten. ua-cam.com/video/tylKw_CIR-o/v-deo.htmlsi=WWLq5JghQUUZZw-c
im a 200 average bowler and ive 3 balls and plastic and ive recently retired the plastic and just not been using anything other than purple hammer in league, i find it easier to lock in with the 1 ball than mess around with 3 and try and figure shit out ans im better at shooting 10 pins with my purple hammer than with my plastic for some reason
hey guys I did good first 2 games then I moved in 4th &5th arrow they was hooking so much I couldn't hit the box on a mid pattern I tried 4 balls any ideas what to do when or if I run into this problem again
Regarding the balls to bring to league. If you take 3 balls, like Brad in this video, would they all be drilled the same? How about if you have a ball the works well on a house pattern, and have 3 of the same ball, all drilled differently? Just curious what people think. I typically bring 4 to league (including a plastic ball).
I like to have the same layout for every ball. I'm averaging 224 but I do this to see the difference in the ball and where it's gonna work in my arsenal. I feel changing layouts on every ball will make you question your game when it's not working right.
@@steve4880 I made an error. I bring 4 and a spare ball. 2 medium oil balls (same ball, one solid, one pearl) and 2 light oil balls (same ball, one solid, one pearl) all drilled the same. I average mid 190's and am fishing for solutions. The house I bowl at is putting down a pattern that breaks down really fast (and I'm left handed, so let than sink in 🙂). In short, after the first game, there is a severe over under reaction. It's gotten so bad, people are leaving and bowling elsewhere. This is nice bowling center (hosted a US open a few years ago), not sure why they are so afraid of putting down some oil! Maybe I should be using stronger equipment that doesn't rev up late?
Every split is left because of a reason so you have to really figure out how your ball is reacting when it’s driving through the pins. Go practice and record your shot and pay attention to how the ball deflects or dies when it hits the pins. Your ball might be rolling out to early so there’s no energy left to drive through the pins or if the ball is deflecting huge off of the pocket hit your might not have enough revs to continually drive through.
@@kenthanson I have high (400+) revs and only 12 mph ball speed due to age and injuries. Because of this, I have an arsenal of plastic balls. My number one is the KR Strikeforce Clear Rose which has so much backend for me, a fellow bowler nicknamed it "reactive plastic". The house shot in our league this year has a very dry outside and backend. Sometimes I think the ball is coming in at TOO sharp an angle. My historic ball reaction has been skid hook, then hook some more. I could never get the ball to go into a roll, but I used to have enough speed to mellow the reaction. My current stats are: PAP. 6 5/8 by 1/8 up, Tilt. 14.5°, Axis R. 32° Thank You for the feedback.
What ru supposed to do when it starts to dry normally have to use urethane start 16ish throwing to 7 8 when thats working i can score with the best of them normally by end of first game im getting in around 20 and the urethane just doesn't work if i throw any reactive im hooking the whole lane i throw around 16mph 500rev with a thumb
A great tip from these guys : "don't pay attention to your score" .. I have used this technique for many years in golf. It can make a HUGE difference a lot of times. Focus on 1 shot at a time. Score is irrelevant. You aren't going to perform any better just because you know your score.
Any advice for when a house can't lay down the same house shot week to week? Ever since my home alley management changed there hasn't been one league night where the pattern wasn't drastically different from the previous week's. Main differences are volume, width , and length of the pattern. And no, this is not a sport shot league; this is supposed to be a standard 41' house pattern.
The number one issue I see league bowlers struggle with is footwork. An inconsistent approach will always result in inconsistent shots. I know people are going to say the biggest issue is spare shooting. To that I still say you can’t make consistently accurate shots with inconsistent footwork. Fix your approach and everything else will follow.
Could someone explain to me why you'd go to a weaker ball in later games? I thought if the lane kinda breaks down, the oil would be pushed further back as well. Wouldn't it make sense to go to a stronger ball to make up for the longer oil pattern so to speak? At least that's how it feels for me, I usually throw a Rotogrip Hustle Camo first because it will not overreact/has enough dry in the back to react. I have trouble with my Radical Rattler not going Brooklyn on me at the beginning. But later on, it feels more controllable/ I cant keep my Hustle from burning up (I think that's what you'd call it at least).
I use my strong ball first. Then I step down a ball. Then I move left, I bring back my stronger ball to create the hook I need. I start up the 8 board standing on 15, I end up on the 10 board standing on the 20 board. So to me, it just makes sense to go to my stronger ball when I move left. I need it to create more hook. 215ish avg. Revs 285-325, speed is 16-18 depending on my angles.
It depends on the day and how the lane pattern breaks down in your house. Some days, I start off with my Hustle M-M and end up in my Black Widow 3.0 by game 3, the reverse happens other times and ither times, I stay in my Phaze 2 all 3 games. If you need something to clear the front part of the lane instead of hooking at your feet, a weaker ball is the answer. When the oil is gone from the front part of the lane, a strong ball will usually use a lot of it's energy first and not have enough left for the pins. It's a plan that can be adjusted depending on the situation.
When someone says ball down to a weaker ball, it largely has to do with *when* the ball hooks. A solid, strong ball will cover a lot of boards, but more importantly, it will start absorbing oil and hooking earlier on the lane. Once transition hits and the lanes are burned up, you want a ball that will skid longer through the dried up areas in order to hit the oil down lane. If you're fighting transition and ball up, your ball will most likely hook at your feet and look like it goes dead straight
That's because modern reactive balls are oil sponges. When you bowl on the freshly oiled pattern, you use your stronger ball. But as ball after ball goes down the lane, not only do they push the oil down, (and this is especially with urethane balls), but the oil is actual soaked up by all those balls. As a result the lanes "dry up", so to speak. You no longer have the oil that you had on the fresh. The oil is pushed down, yes, but more importantly there is just less and less of it. So you take a weaker ball to stay in the pocket. Otherwise that perfect strike you threw in frame 1, game 1, will be missing the pocket and even the head pin, and leaving you the awful 1-3-6-8-10 by the end of game 3.
On the ball point though, I think more than 3 bowling balls is just too much. In my eyes, you can easily get away with 2. One for heavy oil and one for light oil. For a very long time I only had 1 and averaged 200. It’s all about making the right adjustment.
OK, I am confused. I thought a rule of thumb on a house shot was to start with your weaker ball (For me that's a Hustle) and play farther right. As that shot burns up and you start leaving weak 10's you go to a stronger ball (Fore me that's maybe a Magic Gem) and move left. It sounds like you guys are describing just the opposite. What happens to me is when I move left with the weaker ball it doesn't come around the corner hard enough and I leave weak 10's and 7's. I usually start at around 14 or 15 out to 8 and back. I try to move to 16 or 17 to 8 and back with the stronger ball. Any ideas?????
I imagine it varies house to house; it definitely does where I live. In my "home" house, where I bowl in two leagues, we have a VERY predictable house shot, so I can start my series with my strongest ball. I actually have to ball DOWN around the end of game 2 or the start/middle of game 3. But in a house across town, it's the opposite. My weak ball is the first out of the bag, and I have to ball UP later on.
I am limited on ball speed. I love this game but I take medication for my Brain Cancer and it limits my strength. Right now I have a 14 pound ball. Throwing it around 13mph. I have moved to the 25 board just to keep the ball close to the pocket consistently. Should I stay there or buy a different ball that moves less. I have a Storm IQ right now. My average keeps moving up. Two leagues I’m up to 173. I was 162 last year.
Here’s actually how to do it. Go to the pro shop buy any ball and you will average 200 if you can walk to the foul line. It’s that simple today. I’m 54 , I bowl 3 games a week with zero practice ever and I average 230 in league. I was averaging 220s in the early 90s with junk equipment on wood lanes. My teammate is also averaging in the 230s and he’s using a 30 year old ball you’ve never even heard of .
Kyle; I am 78 yrs.old.I hook the ball similar to you. I am righthanded,and I start with my left foot on the 30 board or further left. My problem is usually the right lane. My ball speed is 10,or 11 mph.once the lanes start transitioning I really struggle because I don't have room to get further left with my feet because of the ball return. Solution??
Life long Mets fan, and i honestly thought Peterson wasn't even a Fifth starter, and I wanted him gone, he had so many quality starts last year I actually look forward ro his starts, and he is easy to root for. I really hope he's a big part of the Mets again going into this year, and has even more success.
Thanks for this video! I am below the average of 175 but after this video I can use it as a platform for my practice so I can join a bowling league one day! Please come out with more two handed videos please!!!🙏🏼
Appreciate you! We do a lot of two handed analysis in our coaching group to help students. As you could see in that video... it ain't as pretty from us as some of those beasts out on tour! Thanks for the support @pho_bowler
That's like the absolutely guaranteed secret to winning every basketball, baseball, or football game: Have more points than the other team when the game ends, lol.
ai get my first storm paze a i play first time live in south of sweden city karlskrona ai was born handipapp only one aye left watching and smal hocking arms start with small hole get them down is nice then begin to cath 181 204 with ter in road 181 forur in road 204 more practice is coming love to play bowling for 50 yer now ai am 67 it is a cool sport
Just keep drinking and be loud and obnoxious. Don't care about getting better. Bowling just gets in the way of a night out with your loudmouth 150 lifetime averages.
I love how 2 pros make a great video and give great advice but then the you tube pros come into the comments and think they should give more advice lol. 2 pros just went over the stuff. Who is gonna stick around after class to listen to the kids teach !?
Watch these videos, but more importantly, PRACTICE, you can’t work on your game when the lights come on. I’m in year 8 of bowling ever, 178 year one, 218 year 7 I’m currently at a 223 this year. I have 4 299s and 2 300s, high series of 792. I’m 41, started at 33, doesn’t matter when you start, you have to work to improve. I practice all year. Keep grinding y’all!
I have found out a couple things that really help me. Number one: Mental game. Montra: Just throw strikes the score will take of itself. If I roll strikes I know I will make my avg over and over again. Two: Makeable spares: Hit your spares. If you leave a stone nine or eight.. make them. If you leave the bucket, make it. Leave a ten pin. Hit it. Practice ten pins during your practice warmup. I roll more at the ten pin during practice than I do strike shots. I hit the pocket easily, I don't always hit the ten pin. Practice it. Play lowball when you are at your House practicing. Ten pins kill scores more than any other pin or split.Three: No open frames. Try and keep a clean game. This alone will increase your avg substantionally. Four, score: I never look at the score. Not my score, not my teams score. I don't keep count of how many frames I have bowled even. Somebody will let me know when it's the tenth frame and I have to keep rolling. I can't tell you how much pressure that takes off of me. Not worrying if I have to do something to try and win the game. I just keep rolling until someone tells me game is over. When I practice by myself, I'm always surprised when I do look up and see I'm actually three or four frames into the next game. Just keep rolling. Five... have fun.It's not life or death if you miss a shot. Your family still loves you. You still get your birthday. Your dog still thinks you are the greatest thing on earth. Have fun. Using these rules for me, took me from that 170ish to 215ish bowler. I don't have great revs or speed. Down and in. 285-325 revs, and 16-18mph depending on my angles. Practice ten pins. Then practice more ten pins. Then practice even more ten pins. Thanks guys, great vids.
I get four free games per week for my league memberships. I always use two of them to practice nothing but corner pins. Great advice.
@@die7fox That's pretty cool. I've never seen a House give games away with league. I will bring it up with my House.
@@die7fox during summer league we got 2 free games per day.
@@randyheiser5367 Per DAY? Wow!
@die7fox my mom and I didn't go every day but we went when we could.
Glad you posted this. For the 1st time in 25 years I had a 3 game series without a double. Strike..7 pin, strike... 4 pin, strike..... 8 pin. Just could not get 2 strikes in a row. Saw things I'll try next Monday.
I did the same thing 3 weeks ago, no doubles, couldn't strike on the left lane, very frustrating... then bounced back the next week with a 621 series with plenty of strikes.
The biggest thing I see among people who are kinda perma stuck in the 190's is missing easy spares. They just give back too many doubles too frequently. Obviously not all houses and league patterns are equal, but most pretty getable houses don't require you to have a great physical game to average 200. You'll back your way into a look for a window often enough to throw some strikes.
Facts once I switched to my plastic ball on single pin spares and got more consistent I increased my average from 190 to 220.
Those damn 10-pins…lol
This is on the spot 😆 that 10 pin is so stubborn but having different ball weights affects also.
@@timdoyle1638 I roll plastic at all my right-side spares. Definitely helped get my average out of the basement.
@@timdoyle1638 totally agree
I really enjoyed this video- thank you. Started hot this league season, crashed and burned a few weeks, and then came back with my highest series ever. This gives me a handful of practical tips I can apply this week in practice and at league. Well done!
Love this content!! It's so true with being able to throw different shots and the ability and willingness to move from your starting position. Just shot my best league 3 game series of 798, started off pretty straight at 10 with a strong ball and ended up almost in the gutter on the left side by game 3 with the attention star
The mental game is definitely *HUGE.* My best game ever, I wasn't focused on any particular goals and just throwing one shot at a time. I noticed my strikes stringing up but intentionally ignored it. Then, after getting the front eight, someone in the next lane said something about it and I 6-10'd the last two frames, missing on the first attempt to pick it up.
Guys, I’m still technically a rookie/Southmore the most I’ve ever thrown for strikes in a row was born in a row, but I went open bowling recently. I finally got down to only one open frame, which I’ve been having a lot of trouble with open frames for a while I got it down to one about a week ago, which made me happy. The most strikes in a row I’ve ever ever thrown was a handbone one time
I hear what you're saying, control the pocket, select the right ball, use some versatility, keep a positive mind and take a few lessons. Got it!! Hopefully now I can increase my scores. Thanks brad and Kyle I'm going to crush it in league next Monday.
How’s the past couple of months of scoring going?
Hi guys. I am a member of your Coaching Community! I had to wait a few weeks. Thanks for all the videos you've posted and I'm looking forward to working with you. Let's bowl!
We’re stoked to have you on board! Let’s get to work. 💪🏼
He said I thought you were going to say for sure would be first thing making your spares. Believe makeable spares eyeball 170 180 almost every week and I leave at least 2 to 3 opens every game lol😂 Great video!
I bowled league tonight after watching the video this afternoon. I focused on three things: 1) control the pocket, 2) don't worry about score, and 3) ball choice. I am your target audience, 175 avg bowler. First game I rolled 245. Just like you said, I didn't pay attention to the score. Honestly, my teammate said, nice 5-bagger. I didn't know! Of course, next shot I yanked it a bit, but still made the spare. In the early part of game 2, I switched balls from a Hyroad to a Phaze 2. I thought the Hyroad wasn't coming into the pocket as strongly as it did. I moved in 6 boards from 17 to 23 and made the Phaze 2 work, a little slower, giving it time. Game 2: 187, Game 3: 205, 637 overall. To thank you enough, I will join B&K bowling. See you there.
We're proud of you! See you on the lanes! 💪🏼
I am a 14 bowler for my school and I average right around 200. And I really appreciate this video alot of great tips that I needed, especially mindset
This is great advice, I’d throw 7 strikes a game, but would throw 3 splits too from not controlling the pocket.
Spare shooting is huge and splitting the 8-9 on your strike ball. Boom! All the help you need.
Thanks love the channel
Great video! Thanks 😊
Just shot my series high yesterday in league. I can attest to that flow state feeling and not even focusing on score. Great tips here for sure
I never look at the score while I bowl… The score doesn’t matter, I’m still gonna try my best every single time I go up there so there’s no need to put any of that in my head 😎
Swtiching balls is something I really need to do more of at league. All though its not a huge issue for me as it would be for others. We only have a 2 team league and i'm a lefty so I rarely have anyone challenging my oil so i'm never sure if its just better to adjust or change balls when my ball isn't doing what it normally does.
best clip ever. I can relate to EVERYTHING you said !!!!
I love you guys you are doing such a tremendous job explaining and showing things easy understandable for anybody. And it‘s such a lot of fun seeing your great interaction. Both of you are great bowlers and your tips are so fantastic on the point. I really love watching it. I wish I could soon meet with you guys. I‘m coming to the USA in Spring 25 latest.
Great stuff. Would love to see a follow-up video on going from hitting a 200 average to the next level (i.e., scratch bowler).
I watched this video ( my average is currently 172) just bowled 3 games for Leage games all over 200 average for those games was 209. Still working on adjustments
Only have a summit Peak and a spare ball so no ball to ball up or ball down with
This video helped out a lot
I want to attend a workshop with Kyle and Brad
Got league in a few hours, perfect timing guys!
Don't look at the scoreboard. This is absolutely fantastic advice. The less I look at the scoreboard the better I score.
Love this guys. I am a level one coach but hard to look at your self and correct things. Have to have wife video me sometimes.
I’m happy you mentioned the expectations of shooting high. I just recently switched to 2 hands due to my neck surgery and man it’s difficult to stay consistent. Hardest part is keeping the weight of the ball on my left hand since I was one handed for about 15 years. Shot 690 Monday and 533 last night. Sucks going from a230 average and finishing in the top five at tournaments to not being considered a threat on the lanes anymore. Hopefully I can keep improving to get back to where I used to be or even better.
Attempting to learn a new style can always be challenging. Your dedication to the sport is extremely admirable. Let us know if we can help you on this two handed journey, maybe we can get back to 230 avg!
Please make a very detailed video on hand positions, I feel that will help me out and many others.
I just started bowling league again after like 10 years and currently using just 1 ball. Been averaging about 220 ish but really really need to bowling balls in my aresenal
Thanks for posting this video. I'm a 170 average house league bowler but I've been trying to improve my game and I'm struggling really hard, I'm thinking too much and I'm worrying about every little thing. I want to slide better, I want more revs, I want to learn how to manipulate my wrist. All those thoughts are going through my head and making me tense up.
There are no in person coaches in my area but I think I need to step out of my comfort zone and try some online coaching.
Please respond with your thoughts guys. Game 1 on the china - 9/ X X X 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 8/ (ball change for the fill shot) X. Not a "bad" game, but i left a different pin for almost every 9 count, hitting the pocket each shot. How many micro adjustments would you make before switching balls?
Seems like you need to work on release and speed consistency. You can hit the pocket a lot of different ways but if you release it slightly different each time your ball will hit the pins differently. So pay attention to how your ball is driving through the pins and where in the pocket the ball is hitting.
And if you leave a 7, 8 and 10 in consecutive frames and you think you’ve hit the same place in the pocket every time ask someone else to either watch for you or record it and let you know where you’re actually hitting the pocket.
@@kenthansonThanks for response. This is my 43rd league season. My speed is actually very consistent (I mostly use my legs). I can maintain at 17.1-17.2mph on lanes that have a speed monitor. I also pay attention to my release, so the swing and the axis rotation is also pretty consistent. My house uses very low volume, so the lanes can change pretty fast. I may try changing balls after 2 pocket 9's. Thanks again.
After the ball change, 227 game 2, then 215 in game 3 after ball changing balls again after 3 - 9's in a row. I can sometimes roll 9 strikes in a row, but I need to decide faster when to change balls.
You boys have lots of feelings.
Practice, practice, practice is the foundation of everything
And make the makeable spares. I swear the 10 pin costs me 30 points on my average. Today I shot 4 games of practice, shooting by ‘dimes’. I think I have a system that works for my basically down and up 10 game. I have a mental and physical problem when I start to move too left. I bowl bettercollapsing down my angles, even making the 10 with a plastic ball of course.
It would cool to find a hit point idea. You guys should make a video about the geometric place you have to hit the head pin within the pocket to strike. Of course there’s many ways to strike. But if I had a single spot on the head pin I’m trying to hit it would help me a lot
I’m more focusing on the most flush spot to hit. As a scratch golfer I’m able to focus in on centermeters. The space the hit in between the pocket is too big of a target which causes me to miss
Thanks for the tips guys. You talk about visual out in front of the bowler, however you never mention where your feet are starting exactly. Which dots for your feet correspond to the inside & straight line approaches?
Make a video about adjustments for carrying pins. Certain specific pins and specific adjustments.
How about tips for getting older and changing the way you bowl??
I have been struggling ever since I developed problems with my feet. Metatarsagia and a hammer toe in the left and a year later metatarsagia in the right. I had surgery on the left that went well. But through it all my balance suffered and I developed some really bad habits. I was pushing so hard to get back on track but my average was plummeting. Last week a fellow bowler came over to me and politely asked if it would be okay to offer an opinion. I said yes. He told me if I videotaped myself I would see that my body is twisting and moving all over the place. He said that Kyle Troupe in a tournament, while bowling poorly, wrote a note to himself that said “quiet mind, quiet body”. He said perhaps I should take a deep breath and say those words before my shots. I did and everything changed. My first near 600 series in well over a year. Sometimes without knowing it you can try so hard you lose perspective.
I bowl my best when I focus on making the best shot each time with the right ball and in the right position on the lanes. I watch the other bowlers, who know the game very well and see what changes they are making to stay in the pocket too.
Brad said get to the hole
I like it
Like the NBA take the ball strong to the hole 🕳 ❤🎉😊
Also, please make a detailed video on shooting spares.
I struggle with tip #1 the most. Just having the courage to make a change on the approach when I need to. Too often, I find myself leaving stone 10s or 7s and thinking, "Okay, I *know* need to move in, but how many boards? Should I move my eyes, too? Is it the ball? Is it ME??" And then I end up lining up the exact same way because I freak out. 😆
That said, I did shoot 658 in league Tuesday night, so I'm doing something right.
I feel very mixed. Like I can bowl above 160, but there’s just games where I just can’t hit the pocket. And I’m only stuck with one ball because I’m poor and my parents ain’t gonna get me a new one. What a fun time🙃
How can I get strikes and spares without getting a gutter balls
Perhaps you guy can do a video about keeping up with or reading transition.
We have actually created an entire lane pattern course that goes over how to deal with transition on SPECIFIC PATTERNS! Check out bradandkylebowling.com to learn more about how to navigate various conditions
I want to know is my arsenal is ideal for league. My bowlings balls are Storm Virtual Energy Black Out, Brunswick Rhino pro (blue one), Storm Phase II and a Colombia White Dot Diamond to pick up the 10 pin. Do you have suggestions to improve my arsenal or what I have it's ok?
I bowled a new record high of 246 last night 😊 my average for the night was 190
Our house shot is just the opposite. There's a challenge shot the night before where the outside part of the lane is real oily and the middle is dry.
I have the opposite problem with my scores in league. I start off trash and get better. As a lefty where I bowling can’t seem to get lined up early damn near with any ball in my arsenal. A ton of over under.
Cool video talk tech bowling ball bowling league Brad and Kyle
One tip I and many some others is what can you do when you constantly leave ringing 10 pins no mater what you try ,move back ,move draper into the oil ?
Not all pocket hits are equal and if you’re consistently ringing tens that means you aren’t hitting it right.
Now how to adjust for it depends on your skill set. I prefer to take a little speed off so the ball will pick up a bit earlier and hopefully hit higher in the pocket. You can also go one and one with your feet and target but I’ve found that people end up in the same spot even if they move their feet unless they have excellent body control.
Here’s a quick video that explains why you’ll ring a ten.
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im a 200 average bowler and ive 3 balls and plastic and ive recently retired the plastic and just not been using anything other than purple hammer in league, i find it easier to lock in with the 1 ball than mess around with 3 and try and figure shit out ans im better at shooting 10 pins with my purple hammer than with my plastic for some reason
and talking about splits, since the purple hammer isnt crazy angular i dont leave splits often, lastnight was on the front 9 and left the 4-7-10
hey guys I did good first 2 games then I moved in 4th &5th arrow they was hooking so much I couldn't hit the box on a mid pattern I tried 4 balls any ideas what to do when or if I run into this problem again
The last tip. Learn how to bowl. That's their last tip(#5), not mine.
My arsenal is a Phaze 2, a Timeless, and a urethane. I rarely if ever throw the urethane. Are the Phaze 2 and Timeless a good combination?
I bowl 3 leagues in the same house with 3 different averages. 205,185,and 178. Seem to be stuck here for the past few seasons
Regarding the balls to bring to league. If you take 3 balls, like Brad in this video, would they all be drilled the same? How about if you have a ball the works well on a house pattern, and have 3 of the same ball, all drilled differently? Just curious what people think. I typically bring 4 to league (including a plastic ball).
I like to have the same layout for every ball. I'm averaging 224 but I do this to see the difference in the ball and where it's gonna work in my arsenal. I feel changing layouts on every ball will make you question your game when it's not working right.
@@steve4880 I made an error. I bring 4 and a spare ball. 2 medium oil balls (same ball, one solid, one pearl) and 2 light oil balls (same ball, one solid, one pearl) all drilled the same. I average mid 190's and am fishing for solutions. The house I bowl at is putting down a pattern that breaks down really fast (and I'm left handed, so let than sink in 🙂). In short, after the first game, there is a severe over under reaction. It's gotten so bad, people are leaving and bowling elsewhere. This is nice bowling center (hosted a US open a few years ago), not sure why they are so afraid of putting down some oil! Maybe I should be using stronger equipment that doesn't rev up late?
Lets Go Blues!
My biggest problem right now is I've been leaving quite a few pocket splits, especially 7-10, 4-9, and 8-10.
Every split is left because of a reason so you have to really figure out how your ball is reacting when it’s driving through the pins. Go practice and record your shot and pay attention to how the ball deflects or dies when it hits the pins. Your ball might be rolling out to early so there’s no energy left to drive through the pins or if the ball is deflecting huge off of the pocket hit your might not have enough revs to continually drive through.
@@kenthanson I have high (400+) revs and only 12 mph ball speed due to age and injuries. Because of this, I have an arsenal of plastic balls. My number one is the KR Strikeforce Clear Rose which has so much backend for me, a fellow bowler nicknamed it "reactive plastic".
The house shot in our league this year has a very dry outside and backend. Sometimes I think the ball is coming in at TOO sharp an angle.
My historic ball reaction has been skid hook, then hook some more. I could never get the ball to go into a roll, but I used to have enough speed to mellow the reaction.
My current stats are: PAP. 6 5/8 by 1/8 up, Tilt. 14.5°, Axis R. 32°
Thank You for the feedback.
I noticed the cardinals banners… are you in the stl area? If so which facility is this and do you do lessons by chance?!
What ru supposed to do when it starts to dry normally have to use urethane start 16ish throwing to 7 8 when thats working i can score with the best of them normally by end of first game im getting in around 20 and the urethane just doesn't work if i throw any reactive im hooking the whole lane i throw around 16mph 500rev with a thumb
A great tip from these guys : "don't pay attention to your score" .. I have used this technique for many years in golf. It can make a HUGE difference a lot of times. Focus on 1 shot at a time. Score is irrelevant. You aren't going to perform any better just because you know your score.
Any advice for when a house can't lay down the same house shot week to week? Ever since my home alley management changed there hasn't been one league night where the pattern wasn't drastically different from the previous week's. Main differences are volume, width , and length of the pattern. And no, this is not a sport shot league; this is supposed to be a standard 41' house pattern.
The number one issue I see league bowlers struggle with is footwork. An inconsistent approach will always result in inconsistent shots. I know people are going to say the biggest issue is spare shooting. To that I still say you can’t make consistently accurate shots with inconsistent footwork. Fix your approach and everything else will follow.
I was wondering if you guys are in las vegas and if so id like to become a student
Could someone explain to me why you'd go to a weaker ball in later games? I thought if the lane kinda breaks down, the oil would be pushed further back as well. Wouldn't it make sense to go to a stronger ball to make up for the longer oil pattern so to speak? At least that's how it feels for me, I usually throw a Rotogrip Hustle Camo first because it will not overreact/has enough dry in the back to react. I have trouble with my Radical Rattler not going Brooklyn on me at the beginning. But later on, it feels more controllable/ I cant keep my Hustle from burning up (I think that's what you'd call it at least).
I use my strong ball first. Then I step down a ball. Then I move left, I bring back my stronger ball to create the hook I need. I start up the 8 board standing on 15, I end up on the 10 board standing on the 20 board. So to me, it just makes sense to go to my stronger ball when I move left. I need it to create more hook. 215ish avg. Revs 285-325, speed is 16-18 depending on my angles.
It depends on the day and how the lane pattern breaks down in your house. Some days, I start off with my Hustle M-M and end up in my Black Widow 3.0 by game 3, the reverse happens other times and ither times, I stay in my Phaze 2 all 3 games. If you need something to clear the front part of the lane instead of hooking at your feet, a weaker ball is the answer. When the oil is gone from the front part of the lane, a strong ball will usually use a lot of it's energy first and not have enough left for the pins. It's a plan that can be adjusted depending on the situation.
When someone says ball down to a weaker ball, it largely has to do with *when* the ball hooks.
A solid, strong ball will cover a lot of boards, but more importantly, it will start absorbing oil and hooking earlier on the lane.
Once transition hits and the lanes are burned up, you want a ball that will skid longer through the dried up areas in order to hit the oil down lane.
If you're fighting transition and ball up, your ball will most likely hook at your feet and look like it goes dead straight
That's because modern reactive balls are oil sponges. When you bowl on the freshly oiled pattern, you use your stronger ball. But as ball after ball goes down the lane, not only do they push the oil down, (and this is especially with urethane balls), but the oil is actual soaked up by all those balls. As a result the lanes "dry up", so to speak. You no longer have the oil that you had on the fresh. The oil is pushed down, yes, but more importantly there is just less and less of it. So you take a weaker ball to stay in the pocket. Otherwise that perfect strike you threw in frame 1, game 1, will be missing the pocket and even the head pin, and leaving you the awful 1-3-6-8-10 by the end of game 3.
use a reactive resin ball! that's good for a 40% increase in carry.
On the ball point though, I think more than 3 bowling balls is just too much. In my eyes, you can easily get away with 2. One for heavy oil and one for light oil. For a very long time I only had 1 and averaged 200. It’s all about making the right adjustment.
Brad and Kyle - thanks for these tips videos. ❤ 🎳
OK, I am confused. I thought a rule of thumb on a house shot was to start with your weaker ball (For me that's a Hustle) and play farther right. As that shot burns up and you start leaving weak 10's you go to a stronger ball (Fore me that's maybe a Magic Gem) and move left. It sounds like you guys are describing just the opposite. What happens to me is when I move left with the weaker ball it doesn't come around the corner hard enough and I leave weak 10's and 7's. I usually start at around 14 or 15 out to 8 and back. I try to move to 16 or 17 to 8 and back with the stronger ball. Any ideas?????
I imagine it varies house to house; it definitely does where I live. In my "home" house, where I bowl in two leagues, we have a VERY predictable house shot, so I can start my series with my strongest ball. I actually have to ball DOWN around the end of game 2 or the start/middle of game 3. But in a house across town, it's the opposite. My weak ball is the first out of the bag, and I have to ball UP later on.
Tip: learn to pick up washouts, and 2-10 splits
Frankie LaVoie has a great video on this.
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I am limited on ball speed. I love this game but I take medication for my Brain Cancer and it limits my strength. Right now I have a 14 pound ball. Throwing it around 13mph. I have moved to the 25 board just to keep the ball close to the pocket consistently. Should I stay there or buy a different ball that moves less. I have a Storm IQ right now. My average keeps moving up. Two leagues I’m up to 173. I was 162 last year.
Here’s actually how to do it. Go to the pro shop buy any ball and you will average 200 if you can walk to the foul line. It’s that simple today. I’m 54 , I bowl 3 games a week with zero practice ever and I average 230 in league. I was averaging 220s in the early 90s with junk equipment on wood lanes. My teammate is also averaging in the 230s and he’s using a 30 year old ball you’ve never even heard of .
Do you guys feel more comfortable bowling in shorts despite the normally cold weather in America?
Is this st charles lanes
yes. tip #6. train your spare shooting. make 3 more spares in your league night and your average increases by 10 points
Kyle; I am 78 yrs.old.I hook the ball similar to you. I am righthanded,and I start with my left foot on the 30 board or further left. My problem is usually the right lane. My ball speed is 10,or 11 mph.once the lanes start transitioning I really struggle because I don't have room to get further left with my feet because of the ball return. Solution??
Are you ever going to give advice to straight (zero hook) shooters? Asking for a friend.
Life long Mets fan, and i honestly thought Peterson wasn't even a Fifth starter, and I wanted him gone, he had so many quality starts last year I actually look forward ro his starts, and he is easy to root for. I really hope he's a big part of the Mets again going into this year, and has even more success.
tell us the weight of the ball your using please, no one ever tells us the weight not on one video.
Its gonna be 15 or 16. Most likely 16. More weight = more carry = more pins
I like how he really embraced the 175 average bowler with those first shots lol
Be the ball, be the ball, be the ball 😂
Thanks for this video! I am below the average of 175 but after this video I can use it as a platform for my practice so I can join a bowling league one day! Please come out with more two handed videos please!!!🙏🏼
Appreciate you! We do a lot of two handed analysis in our coaching group to help students. As you could see in that video... it ain't as pretty from us as some of those beasts out on tour! Thanks for the support @pho_bowler
Just strike 60% of the time... jk spares are the easiest and I really need to get better at the right side if I want to keep my early season average.
Ive got 1 golden tip: hit more pins.
That's like the absolutely guaranteed secret to winning every basketball, baseball, or football game: Have more points than the other team when the game ends, lol.
Step 1 make your spares
Step 2 buy multiple different balls for different conditions
Step 3 that’s it
Where was you guys 36 years ago! 😂
In the sack
(me, in week six of my league having a ~175 average so far and just starting to hit 600 from time to time) "HEY he's talking about ME!"
A 200 average is a very common place for many league bowlers to hover around, we need to get you slingin 700's out there!
@@BradandKyleBowl I'll get there eventually! Just gotta keep bowling one frame at a time
First can you guys respond?
Why?
You gotta string. Spares are good and all but you can average 200+ when you cant strike in bunches
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@joepic85More strikes, less spares to shoot at!
Should i get a phaze AI to pair with my pindown zen master?
Phaze AI is sweet 🔥
ai get my first storm paze a i play first time live in south of sweden city karlskrona ai was born handipapp only one aye left watching and smal hocking arms start with small hole get them down is nice then begin to cath 181 204 with ter in road 181 forur
in road 204 more practice is coming love to play bowling for 50 yer now ai am 67
it is a cool sport
First! Lets go
Can you tell my center we need more oil n the middle
Yo @bowlingcenter, put more oil in the middle of the lanes.
Hope this helps 👍🏼
Brad plays the part of a 170 avg. bowler a little too well 😂
Make your spares!!! Go practice Just spares for a few days and you Will improve your average!
Pro tip: don't bring the strongest balls in the line to league.
its just league brah
Just keep drinking and be loud and obnoxious. Don't care about getting better. Bowling just gets in the way of a night out with your loudmouth 150 lifetime averages.
OMG you guys talk too much… please demonstrate more.
I love how 2 pros make a great video and give great advice but then the you tube pros come into the comments and think they should give more advice lol. 2 pros just went over the stuff. Who is gonna stick around after class to listen to the kids teach !?
So right. Probably a lot of the keyboard pros are lifetime 150 averages that don't put any effort into getting better.
Yep.