Thanks, Darren. I use a 3-6-9 system, shooting through board 20 at the arrows. It generally works as long as I hit the target (board 20). But you're given me some options to try out for specific spares. And I definitely have to try what you suggested for washouts and splits.
Probably one of the best videos you've ever done, Darren. Also, great camerawork and editing, as always. Always supporting the entire House, but DTang's stuff is just a cut above. Love to see all the guys getting subs and support now.
I knew about this from putting in golf but it translates a lot in all sports, I didn't think about it in bowling.. the epiphany moment was tennis and contact point from forehand to backhand which eye sees the ball first on either side. Definitely helpful to consider especially considering what you are talking about having cross dominant eye and not realizing it in bowling (ie. being right handed with a left dominant or vise-versa, it's quite common).
If nobody has said it yet, thank you so much for making this type of video! I have been contemplating using the straight system for spare shooting even though I rarely see anything but a house shot. On top of that, in the last few years age has made my game decline so I needed something to be more competitive. Since I haven't had much practice time, I only break out the straight game for anything shy of the 3-6-10 combination when I feel there is no other option. Luckily I guessed right last night and nailed the 2-10. Keep making a few of these videos for those of us who really want to hear it from those who really depend on it.
This video came right on time. I missed my first single pin of the season, open UA-cam when I got home and this is the first video that was recommended to me
this vid is going into that bowling save bag for sure. I wish you had shown how you set your feet before approaching. I really liked how you made the point of getting the points. If you have three pins, at least pick up two...
Great video. One point that seems inconsistent to me. If hooking at 2-8, is advantageous then I think that hooking at 3-6 - 9-10, would have a nearly equivalent advantage.
I'm a righty and have no problem with my spares except for the 10-pin. I stand about six inches back from the approach dots that are next to the ball return on board 35. I aim my spare ball right over 15 at the arrows. Bullseye... WHEN I hit my target. Too many times, and I don't know why I do it, I don't get my shoulders facing towards the 10 pin and while my eyes are looking at 15 my ball goes more down the middle of the lane because I didn't turn my body towards the pin. Now, somedays, I have no problem doing it right and I'm completely in sync with myself. Other days, I'm just not operating correctly, and my aim is really bad and my shoulders don't turn. I don't know why this happens. I can tell you what it feels like though. It is like when you have a dream and you're trying to turn but you just can't do it. If you know what I'm talking about, that is what it is like and I feel helpless when it hits me. I want to turn towards the pin, but I can't. Maybe it's in my head that I can't. I don't know. And again, other days... no problem picking up the 10-pin.
My balls always like to hook before it gets to a corner pin.. would straightening out my wrist on release help? I see other people going for corner pins with a lot of revs on the ball so idk what they are doing different to not have the ball hook at the end
I bowled 4 games today and only got 1 spare.. 27 strikes though lmao. I just couldn't adjust for the dry lane as I'm still really new and not even a month in... appreciate the tips
Used the spare system you've used for 2 years and for some reason it never worked, switched to only looking straight at the pin and almost doubled my single pin conversion ;-; Idk whats wrong with me
my problem with the 10 pin is i cant consistently and accurately flatten out my hand so half the time at the last second it will have the tiniest hook and just skim past it
Great advice all around! I hook at the 2-8, too. I've never been able to pick it up going straight at it. Frankie Lavoie taught me to stand farther left (as a right-hander) to pick up the washout. I stand on 35 and roll the ball over 5th arrow. If I hit my mark on the lane, the head pin kicks out nicely and takes out the 10 while the ball takes care of the rest.
I did the opposite. I stand in the same spot and vary the target depending on the pin. Similar concept, the 10 pin is the 4th arrow and the 7 pin is the 6th arrow. I actually started by wanting my 10 pin over the 4th arrow and finding where to stand. Key is to get a consistent approach.
My problem is I don't know what my wrist is gonna do. I could be aiming for my 10 pin, standing around 35, and my wrist decides it wants to go straight and goes the complete wrong direction
I always do better with my spares when I lift free weights. Low weight (15lb) with high reps (40). It can also help strengthen your wrists. Another exercise would be taking a dowel rod with a cord attached and some sort of weight. You twist the rod until the cord is completely wrapped around it. That can make a huge difference. Good luck!
When I see someone in a televised match miss the 10pin by a lot, not a near miss but a lot, I no longer subscribe to their how to’s anymore on picking up the 10.
Not clear. Was really looking forward to this vid. You need to say where you stand where your eyes are on each different spare. I couldn’t follow what you were saying.
Personally I feel like aiming at a board for bowlers isnt good, you do that on the tour, you do that when you are a tournament player, but when you bowl league or are trying to improve league average, cut that variable out. just area bowl. I have a 227 book just area bowling. (over 96 games) Where your feet start, for me, is the only variable besides how it comes out of your hand. 10 pin? get your ring finger into it. side roll? get your middle finger into it. Wanna learn how to hit 10 pins? learn how to throw a backup ball, then learn how to straighten the backup ball, I call this the spiderman. pure forward straight roll.
You just throwing out numbers is so confusing. 25, 24, 4 boards etc. You're teaching step 2 before you even go over step 1. It'd be nice if you at least link a prior video that you've done to explain your system/terminology and then bring us back to this video.
If you don’t know how to count boards and pick a target then I wouldn’t focus on your spare game yet. That being said channels like Brad and Kyle and JR Raymond have a plethora of beginner friendly videos that I would recommend you check out
THE 3-6-9-10... YOU NEVER THROW STRAIGHT AT IT. YOU HAVE TO GET AROUND THE 3 AND HAVE YOUR BALL DRIVE INTO THE 3-6 POCKET TO CARRY THE 9 PIN... TANGS METHOD IS HORRENDOUS FOR THIS SPARE.
Nobody knows what you are saying. You are talking too much bowling and not enough direction. A lot of people are new to bowling and do not understand that language.
Great video man. I’ve been watching you for some time and you have fantastic content. I have learned to throw it straight and that is huge for me when shooting at 7 pins(lefty one handed) After watching this video I feel I will throw more spares straight! I need to practice more lol
I really struggle with spares. I believe it is because the mechanics of my release change when I shoot spares. I use the same system as shown in the video. If I leave a spare, it is a 10 pin 90% of the time. I am generally in the pocket. I call myself an "all or nothing" bowler. I can string strikes and bowl great games. I also can leave a lot of 10 pins, miss them, and bowl terrible games.
I came here looking for help, but this was not a good video for help. The explanations are SO jargon-y that it's not easy to follow. "I slide 40 there, probably about 25ish again." What? "So I drifted a variable about 1 so far. 6 the first time 5 the second time." What are these numbers? "Close to a double tab, not quite perfect... I'm drifting about 5 on my spares." Tab? Drifting? Sheesh. Also, why don't you mention anything from the start about where you drop the ball? You just talk about where your feet are, not where the ball goes.
I'm not trying to be overly rude, but how did you come here for help if you don't know the boards you stand on or drift to. I mean, he may have been able to dumb it down a bit, but why. Seems like you would not have understood either way. So go to the bowling alley and count the boards right to left, and you will then understand. The middle board is 20(middle arrow), and you are welcome.
“When you miss it, you’re actually missing by more than you think” is so Darren lmao!!!
Definitely watching before league tonight
Good luck
Same for me today tonight as well.
Honestly have been waiting for a video like this and can say thank you. Def gave some some good insight on how to pick up more spares.
Thanks, Darren. I use a 3-6-9 system, shooting through board 20 at the arrows. It generally works as long as I hit the target (board 20). But you're given me some options to try out for specific spares. And I definitely have to try what you suggested for washouts and splits.
Probably one of the best videos you've ever done, Darren. Also, great camerawork and editing, as always. Always supporting the entire House, but DTang's stuff is just a cut above. Love to see all the guys getting subs and support now.
Since corner pins are essentially accessible from one side, I loft the gutter with great success! 🎉
I always attribute parallaxing to having a cross dominant eye. Right handed with a left-eye dominance or visa versa
I knew about this from putting in golf but it translates a lot in all sports, I didn't think about it in bowling.. the epiphany moment was tennis and contact point from forehand to backhand which eye sees the ball first on either side. Definitely helpful to consider especially considering what you are talking about having cross dominant eye and not realizing it in bowling (ie. being right handed with a left dominant or vise-versa, it's quite common).
Took me a while to learn how to flatten my wrist and have been struggling with being consistent. This is gonna help a ton . Thank Darren !
DTang always brings the best explanation and tips.. a lot of great pros with channels but Darren is one of the best imo.
If nobody has said it yet, thank you so much for making this type of video! I have been contemplating using the straight system for spare shooting even though I rarely see anything but a house shot. On top of that, in the last few years age has made my game decline so I needed something to be more competitive. Since I haven't had much practice time, I only break out the straight game for anything shy of the 3-6-10 combination when I feel there is no other option. Luckily I guessed right last night and nailed the 2-10. Keep making a few of these videos for those of us who really want to hear it from those who really depend on it.
This video came right on time. I missed my first single pin of the season, open UA-cam when I got home and this is the first video that was recommended to me
Great information! I really like hearing your tips and techniques to help all be be better. Thank you.
this vid is going into that bowling save bag for sure. I wish you had shown how you set your feet before approaching. I really liked how you made the point of getting the points. If you have three pins, at least pick up two...
Super important 👍🏼
This helped a lot, thanks Darren!
It's easier to pick up double wood by hooking the ball. It's the one exception I make to your system.
Thanks for showing the 3-6-9-10. I’ve left that way too much recently and have struggled to pick it up.
Dude, perfect timing. I literally just really started to try to get my spare game up like in the last week
This just reconfirmed the need for a spare ball as a two hander lmao
This video helped me so much!!! Thanks Darren!!!
Great video! Gonna try to get the team to watch this one.
Wow gave your Dad props on spare shooting
need to watch this right before i play
Could you cover a video on shooting spares such as the 10 as a two hander as i feel like its more tricky? great video though and very insightful!!!
Spares are of “sacred importance
i used to bowl in special olimpics but i am to old now i am mentally challanged but i love to bowl and i bowl with a hook
I’ve been using the 3-6-9 system and it’s helped a lot except the 10 pin. I think it’s mental on it
i keep missing all my spares, so i am watching this video.
I wished I had watched this before I had gone to league.
Great video, appreciated!!
Great video. One point that seems inconsistent to me. If hooking at 2-8, is advantageous then I think that hooking at 3-6 - 9-10, would have a nearly equivalent advantage.
I love you Darren (Your channel of course)
What about a 2-4-5 or the bucket? I've had more success still going hard and straight on those. But is hooking it better?
Averaging 198…because I’m inconsistent with 10s
I'm a righty and have no problem with my spares except for the 10-pin. I stand about six inches back from the approach dots that are next to the ball return on board 35. I aim my spare ball right over 15 at the arrows. Bullseye... WHEN I hit my target. Too many times, and I don't know why I do it, I don't get my shoulders facing towards the 10 pin and while my eyes are looking at 15 my ball goes more down the middle of the lane because I didn't turn my body towards the pin. Now, somedays, I have no problem doing it right and I'm completely in sync with myself. Other days, I'm just not operating correctly, and my aim is really bad and my shoulders don't turn. I don't know why this happens. I can tell you what it feels like though. It is like when you have a dream and you're trying to turn but you just can't do it. If you know what I'm talking about, that is what it is like and I feel helpless when it hits me. I want to turn towards the pin, but I can't. Maybe it's in my head that I can't. I don't know. And again, other days... no problem picking up the 10-pin.
how do i not hit the ball return when im standing that far left
My balls always like to hook before it gets to a corner pin.. would straightening out my wrist on release help? I see other people going for corner pins with a lot of revs on the ball so idk what they are doing different to not have the ball hook at the end
Probably using a plastic ball for spares. That's what I do.
Im for sure that Paralax guy sometimes ha 😅
Give the board stand to hit which arrow or board for which pin to hit pls!
Bro shooting a video with Alex Gurkov in the background
I'm more interested in how you are able to throw a reactive that straight.
I bowled 4 games today and only got 1 spare.. 27 strikes though lmao. I just couldn't adjust for the dry lane as I'm still really new and not even a month in... appreciate the tips
Used the spare system you've used for 2 years and for some reason it never worked, switched to only looking straight at the pin and almost doubled my single pin conversion ;-; Idk whats wrong with me
Forget spares, what's the pole the guy behind you is using! I need one to stretch!
I can’t stop hooking the ball left when trying for 10 pin
my problem with the 10 pin is i cant consistently and accurately flatten out my hand so half the time at the last second it will have the tiniest hook and just skim past it
made this comment before u said anything about flattening your hand out
Working on the same issue
Or you can do what I do and grab a plastic house ball and bowl it straight. Doesn't work on crazy splits but I'll take a ~90% spare rate all day
Great advice all around! I hook at the 2-8, too. I've never been able to pick it up going straight at it.
Frankie Lavoie taught me to stand farther left (as a right-hander) to pick up the washout. I stand on 35 and roll the ball over 5th arrow. If I hit my mark on the lane, the head pin kicks out nicely and takes out the 10 while the ball takes care of the rest.
2-4-5 straight. Hook at the bucket but that’s just me.
I wanted to know what's the difference in overseas balls? Example: attention star vs attention spot
Most popular pin to leave is the 10? I always leave the 7...what am I doing wrong? Or...what am I doing right? 😉
I did the opposite. I stand in the same spot and vary the target depending on the pin. Similar concept, the 10 pin is the 4th arrow and the 7 pin is the 6th arrow. I actually started by wanting my 10 pin over the 4th arrow and finding where to stand. Key is to get a consistent approach.
Is your 2handed spare system different than 1?
What about 2 handed bowlers?
He said get a plastic, watch the vid before commenting
Thank You.
My problem is I don't know what my wrist is gonna do. I could be aiming for my 10 pin, standing around 35, and my wrist decides it wants to go straight and goes the complete wrong direction
If that's the case you might have to think about changing to a ball weight you can properly control.
I always do better with my spares when I lift free weights. Low weight (15lb) with high reps (40). It can also help strengthen your wrists. Another exercise would be taking a dowel rod with a cord attached and some sort of weight. You twist the rod until the cord is completely wrapped around it. That can make a huge difference. Good luck!
369 spare system
When I see someone in a televised match miss the 10pin by a lot, not a near miss but a lot, I no longer subscribe to their how to’s anymore on picking up the 10.
Like your tips, just way too many jump cuts for me. Hard to watch
0:36 wth is the guy in the back doing lol
swing drills forgot if its called that but its used for opening up the body when u swing
Cool video talk tech bowling Darren tang
Not clear. Was really looking forward to this vid. You need to say where you stand where your eyes are on each different spare. I couldn’t follow what you were saying.
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Personally I feel like aiming at a board for bowlers isnt good, you do that on the tour, you do that when you are a tournament player, but when you bowl league or are trying to improve league average, cut that variable out. just area bowl. I have a 227 book just area bowling. (over 96 games) Where your feet start, for me, is the only variable besides how it comes out of your hand. 10 pin? get your ring finger into it. side roll? get your middle finger into it. Wanna learn how to hit 10 pins? learn how to throw a backup ball, then learn how to straighten the backup ball, I call this the spiderman. pure forward straight roll.
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I converted the 6-7-10 during a tournament once and everyone around me was stunned that I converted a hard split
You just throwing out numbers is so confusing. 25, 24, 4 boards etc. You're teaching step 2 before you even go over step 1. It'd be nice if you at least link a prior video that you've done to explain your system/terminology and then bring us back to this video.
Isn't a beginner video, obviously.
If you don’t know how to count boards and pick a target then I wouldn’t focus on your spare game yet. That being said channels like Brad and Kyle and JR Raymond have a plethora of beginner friendly videos that I would recommend you check out
4:48 out of all things I notice the spit flying out his mouth
THE 3-6-9-10... YOU NEVER THROW STRAIGHT AT IT. YOU HAVE TO GET AROUND THE 3 AND HAVE YOUR BALL DRIVE INTO THE 3-6 POCKET TO CARRY THE 9 PIN... TANGS METHOD IS HORRENDOUS FOR THIS SPARE.
First
1 view in 16 sec, fell off man
But u still tune it ????
Dude, can yall stop saying that? That’s shit is annoying
Where’s ur 200K channel @? 💀
How very original. Its been years since this shit started move on
YALL HE WAS JOKING 😭
Thank you for these tips. 👍
Excellent! Was looking for a detailed breakdown of set up and target on every main leave and this is it!
Recommend this to 220 average
Nobody knows what you are saying. You are talking too much bowling and not enough direction. A lot of people are new to bowling and do not understand that language.
Great video man. I’ve been watching you for some time and you have fantastic content.
I have learned to throw it straight and that is huge for me when shooting at 7 pins(lefty one handed)
After watching this video I feel I will throw more spares straight!
I need to practice more lol
I really struggle with spares. I believe it is because the mechanics of my release change when I shoot spares. I use the same system as shown in the video. If I leave a spare, it is a 10 pin 90% of the time. I am generally in the pocket. I call myself an "all or nothing" bowler. I can string strikes and bowl great games. I also can leave a lot of 10 pins, miss them, and bowl terrible games.
I'm a 2 hander, and I don't see having a plastic ball as I'm losing a slot in my bag. Because I've learned to use it in extreme cases as a strike ball
Two handed please!!!
What is the arm tape for?
I came here looking for help, but this was not a good video for help. The explanations are SO jargon-y that it's not easy to follow. "I slide 40 there, probably about 25ish again." What? "So I drifted a variable about 1 so far. 6 the first time 5 the second time." What are these numbers? "Close to a double tab, not quite perfect... I'm drifting about 5 on my spares." Tab? Drifting? Sheesh. Also, why don't you mention anything from the start about where you drop the ball? You just talk about where your feet are, not where the ball goes.
I'm not trying to be overly rude, but how did you come here for help if you don't know the boards you stand on or drift to. I mean, he may have been able to dumb it down a bit, but why. Seems like you would not have understood either way. So go to the bowling alley and count the boards right to left, and you will then understand. The middle board is 20(middle arrow), and you are welcome.
@@colbyepps2434 Um, I got that part. *rolling eyes*