I own a 17 performance pack Mustang Premium. The extra 3 grand was definitely worth it. The Torsion set-up alone, along with the brakes, can easily eat up the extra cash you spend on the performance pack if you were to put it on a stock GT, and I don't believe this was touched on this in your presentation. The extra performance goodies like the strut tower brace, which as stated in the video makes it easier to "point and shoot", stiffer bushings and springs, larger sway bars, heavy duty radiator, are basically frosting on the proverbial cake. It would be difficult to purchase and install all of these upgrades for 3 thousand dollars. With this being written, I enjoyed the review. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to more videos gentlemen.
Eric Prochnow thanks man!! Yeah very good points, I think it would be a costly pain in the neck to do the upgrades yourself, much better idea to have someone do them for you and buy it as is
Eric Prochnow I've got a 17 gt grabber blue performance pack as seen in my thumbnail. Diff worth the extra $ car is sick a lot of fun to drive. Ive also got the recaro seats and bigger screen with mine. Not sure u guys mentioned
The Premium Performance Package in Ford's answer to the 1LE Camaro. It's well worth the price. Stiffer springs and shocks. A much bigger tire package and a big brake system. It's all engineered by the gearheads of at Ford so it all fits correctly and you haven't voided any warranties. Just the brake kit is about $2k. The gears are over $1k installled. Some friends and I compared it directly to my GR350R and a base GT. It shits all over the base GT. The gearing gets it off the line faster, wider rubber means less wheel slip. The car rides differently too if feels like a spring ready to snap a bit more nervous in a good way.Comparing it to the Shelby was a bit much. It's hard to believe they both share a lot of the same underpinnings But $3k is a no brainer. Cross off the adaptive cruise control or the nav in place of the PPP.
I honestly don't even know how this is a valid question. For 3k, can you even replace the components in the aftermarket? You get the Ford Performance Street pack (minus lowering spring), 6 piston Brimbo brakes, 19" wheels/tires, upgraded radiator, strut tower brace, 3.73 diff gear, and a splitter for front brake cooling.
Checking in after the 670 hp Roush supercharger install on our 2016 GT convertible manual trans w/3.31 gears. I got 285 Continental Extreme Contact Sport tires in the rear, 255's front and w/that tire and gearing, 670 hp is actually very manageable and hooks up nicely from a stop (I don't know how 3.73's are). The Coyote power build remains similar to stock but around 4k RPM hold on! It runs great and the power is super smooth and as a daily driver you'd never know it's supercharged unless you step on it. Unfortunately you can't hear much of the whine. However, I've had a starting issue since installing it (at a local Ford dealer that said they did a few of them, research dealers if you put one on). It starts hard after sitting for about 30 mins (but if only 10 mins or over an hour of sitting, it fires up perfectly), not sure what's going on there. I ended up getting the Roush warranty but I want to get it resolved. Be aware (at least in WI) insurance companies don't like you supercharging your Mustang, but rates didn't go up that much; I did have to switch insurance companies. MPG on a 800 mile road trip overall was just over 24 mpg w/a trip best interstate stretch of 70 mph of 27.2! In my normal driving when I was getting 17-18, there's only a 1-2 mpg penalty, it is not driven lightly! Overall I'm happy. I hope you and you all in Texas are doing well and recovering strongly! I hope the Whataburgers survived!
Love the vid man! The dash is a PP thing. The PP also has a larger radiator. And the larger brakes won't really give you much noticeably street braking performance difference, but will give you much better performance on track because more heat capacity and less brake fade and what not. Source: I drive a 15 GT PP. Oh and the 3.73 torsen is worth every penny
cool video guys! subbed. nice and real. looking at either a 2019 GT Premium or one with PP1. Not sure which one. non PP1 has heated seats and cooled seats but PP1 doesn't.....so it comes down to suspension. I'm not racing it....daily driver.
the pp 6 piston brembos won't fit with the non pp 18"wheels........so you'd have to get new wheels.......the pp also has a k brace , larger rad and larger rear sway bar.....the $3000 price sounding better now?
I wish I had the 3.55. They give you the best of both, better pick but not as bad of gas as the 3.73. Don't think it was mentioned but he sway bars are bigger on the PP. I plan on putting the tower brace and K brace on mine. Great vid
Dude really 355 and 373 isnt that much different i bet it wouldnt be more than 1 mpg diff on the highway IF THAT. The trans gearing is close as hell in these models so its gonna be snappy weather its 331 355 or 373. 331 is similar to 410 in the 10 and older cars and 18 up cars with their long geared trans....355 is like 430 and 373 is like 456. There wont be much difference in them performance wise or mpg wise. Just get the pp car with 373 is the best gear for na dont worry about mpg and "daily driving" idk why people always say that "oh 355 are better for "daily"" wtf does that even mean? Lol. I mean its either a car driven on the highway alot or its not makes no difference if its a "daily" lol. People have feared the gear every since the old days when the dohc v8 first came to ford. The old 90s na 4.6 cobras were high winding engines...very similar to the coyote just an older not as good version...those cars when na become a beast with 456 gears instead of factory 327 but many people wont go beyond 373-410 because they think its gonna somehow make their car unstreetable but that could not be further from the truth. In town driving becomes easier in many ways and on the highway you might lose 3 mpg or so going from 327 to 456 on those cars...so the difference betwern 355 and 373 in these with their short ass trans gearing isn't really going to make any difference. If you are na and plan to stay that way get 373...if youre going for big power with boost 331 is best for many reasons. Dont worry about 373 tacking 4th before the quarter because once you add power and swap the manifold and spin it to 8k you won't be trapping the quarter beyond 4th it extends out the speed you can go in 4th enough to not have issues. 331 = boosted 373 = na No reason to be in the middle with 355 because it isnt that much different.
I plan on picking up a 2018 base model. Most driving is daily driving for me. However, I'd like to install a strut tower kit, maybe a sway bar, and some nicer wheels (maybe 19's). So, do you guys recommend going to 19"? Does it affect the ride much going to 19" wheels? Also, how badly does it affect acceleration going to the bigger diameter 275's on a base model?
Awesome vid man. I picked up a non pp gt premium in 15. But so far I've been adding the pp parts afterwards. I have the strut tower brace, front and rear sway bars so far. But off the showroom the pp is a good bargain because you really don't save too much money doing it yourself if you price out the entire package aftermarket. Had the pp in my last mustang and gearing was too high for me as a daily. I think 3.55 gears is he magic number 4 a daily though.
I have the same car, same year and color. I think Ford realized the PP was a good deal and raised the price on the package when I went order it vs. a 16 model, but it was still worth it.
Im really torn on buying a 2018 Mustang GT or the GT premium with performance pack. Don't know if i want to spend the extra 2000k going from 301a to 400a. Then i want to buy the black versions of those SVE wheels you have. It turns out Dallas is only a couple hours from that shop so i may take a drive out there if i purchase. Do i need the extra stuff the performance pack has if i buy the gt with the 3.55? not sure if the brakes are that better.
briang573 I believe the base 18 brakes are the same as mine, done a ton of track stuff and never had an issue, if it’s performance you’re after. My vote is the 18
Question for you and sorry if its a stupid question - If i were to buy those 20 inch sve rims and tires would i need to buy lowering springs? The stock tires for the 2018 mustang gt I'm looking at are 18inch.
suver turks 373 gears, suspension, you get oil pressure and vac gauges. 0-60 is 4 flat compared to 4.5. I just got a 2017 performance today and adore it
kyokushinkuma well I love them 2017 obviously but haven’t gotten my hands on a 2018 yet, hopefully soon but from what I’ve heard, if you can get an 18 for a reasonable price then that sounds like the better option!
Oh God Yeah I forgot all about The 373 Gearing in the manuals.. I call them the reel them in 373 Gears... LMAO.. I like Traction control too for bad weather day's but it does pull power and at the same time help you get the power to the road which is a weird thing.. I can bang second with traction on.. I will say with Traction Off all bets are off, You can get her side ways way easier.. I think the LSD locks up quicker with it on too maybe I just think it is??
I would say it is worth the 3K because it will be faster and over all perform better! Where it gets even better is when the 2018 comes out and you can buy the performance pack with magnetic ride control and 10 speed auto! It will run me 53K because the over all price of the Mustang is going up in 2018. I am also adding the 401A pack and several others because I want everything to make the car nicer and I am hoping that the 2018's will have the heat and ac in the whole seat and not just the bottom. If not, hello Camaro!
I can't wait to get a Mustang. My dealer shows the Shelby Gt350 at 54K. I've been hearing about the insane mark up. I will find out if they are lying about the 54K soon.
This late in the model year, you really need to carefully check out any left-over GT350's going for "factory list price". Just because the car is "technically" new doesn't mean it's "new" (meaning it could have been used as a demo - drove hard ... put away wet, by dealer, salesmen, mechanics, 'prep crew' or pulled back when some guy couldn't swing the payments)! New, in dealership talk, only means it was never registered...doesn't mean it was never driven or that it wasn't damaged/repaired by the dealer ship...'''been a lot of reports of dealers installing GT350 spec parts incorrectly too, like the Shelby front air dam" - accidents happen and if they can get you to pay full price, even without markup, then they come out ahead. 'just saying..! your money, your choice.
Not knocking dudes car at all because they are right you can change the gears and do all that, Most people eventually go bigger on Wheels eventually anyway even the PP cars.. I want that 305 on the Back and 275 up front myself.. But my 275 to 255 set up nice too, very nice, the car handles like it's on rails to me.. Seriously Ford Nailed it with these GT's.. Once they dropped the Coyote's in and fixed the rear axle's in these cars they Nailed it..
Does your base 16 GT have the 3.31 gear or a 3.55? A 3.55 is a great gear for the Mustang. Always has been. I had a 2004 Mach 1 with 3.55's and it was right on the money. A lot more involved now doing a gear swap since they went away from the solid rear axel. Swapping gears used to be a snap but now with an independent rear its not as easy as it used to be. That translates into a much more expensive mod. Either way great vid fellas and enjoy your rides. 👍
I had a fbo mach with stock gears and while it wasnt bad 355 def isnt optimal for drag racing in those cars. Acceleration with 430-456 is night and day on a mach turns them into a stockish terminator beating machine. Also 355 in that car is way different than 355 in these cars the mt82 is geared mucy shorter than the old tr3650 in the mach. Trans gearing has ALOT to do with it. 373 on these is similar to 456 on the mach....355 is like 430 on it...355 on the mach would be like 273s on the coyote (even though they arent available with 273) so comparing 355 on the 5 speed to 355 with these mt82s is a completely different animal. The high winding dohc fords like the mach, the older na cobras and the coyote all nerd aggrrssive gearing to get max acceleration and performance in general so that is why ford themselves went in 2011 to the aggressively geared mt82. You may like 355 on the mach that is fine but its far from optimal acceleration wise
Nice video guys i agree with u , i have a ingot silver 17 performance package awesome car but to be honest if u are going to drag race i think the base model will work better
Great video bro. I drive a 2015 V6 with the Roush CAI, Flowmaster Outlaw Axle-backs, and the MPT 93PR-X tune.... part of me still wishes I would have gotten a 5.0. My wallet just couldn't take that payment at the time. It could now but I almost have this one paid off and with me starting to mod it over the past 6 months.... I have fallen for my car all over again. V6 or V8.... a Mustang is a Mustang. Hearing you talk about the differences in the cars with an open mind was great. I did laugh extremely hard when you talked about the hood blinker. Great video though man.
Chris Suggs amen man! Mustangs are mustangs, before I got my 5.0 I have a heavily modded cyclone! I miss the crap out of it! And lol I feel bad for you too, every s550 needs hood blinkers!! Lol
I'll pass on the hood blinkers bro. 😂😂😂 I want the carbon fiber 4 inch cal heat extraction hood for mine. But 73mm TB with long tube headers and a off-road H pipe are in my near future before the hood. I would love to have a set 3.73s too but like the hood.... later down the road.
brent basore it's people like you that give car guys a bad name. I daily my car to work.... 410s would be stupid. Very seldom to I ever go to the track so 410s would be pointless for me. But opinions are like assholes, Everyone has one. Thanks for yours.
I feel the same way about hood vents... I am so Happy with my buy, I have zero Buyer's Remorse... Even though they are coming out with S650's that look Worse Fo sure.. They may be faster but they ruined the sexist Mustang they have made since the 60's. And I love the 2012's, that look too.. When they came out with 1st gen coyote.. They looked sexy too.. The S197's I think..
When you drive 3 hours a day the difference between 22 and 26mpg can be a good chunk of cash. The only thing I don't want in the performance pack is the quicker gears. Coming from a foxbody, both of these are still going to be improvements but I still want to know.
I do, but I compete in a racing class where changing the width of the wheels isn't legal, changing spring rates isn't legal, and camber modifications are limited to factory allowed slotting of the strut hole.
(The gearing alone is worth the 3K, without the Wheels, Brakes, or the strut tower in my opinion..) I know a few PPL who thought they were going to do a gear swap in their Driveways who regrated it too.. That's a skill your not gonna just watch a Video and get that right.. You need to be a wrencher For Real.. If you are good.. I can't tell you how many times those 373's Reel'ed other cars in right away, or they never even had a chance even.. I beat BMW's the Turbo Straight 6 and a lot of other 400 wheel cars light to light. With a decent, 1,2,3 it's over.. Obviously they make cars faster than this, There are dodges and Camaro's making very Big power so it's what you like or are into.. I really thought I was gonna go SS, But the look of the GT won me over.. And I was never going to find a 1 Garage Kept owner barely driven Muscle Car ever again like this, with 9K Miles on it with the PP.. Not ever again.. And the price was Really right. She will be SC'ed in a few years...
I bought a 2017 GT in Grabber Blue a couple of months back as dealers were clearing out the rest of their 2017's in prep for the incoming '18s.. I had visited a few dealers and came across one that had what I was looking for on the lot... 5.0, Grabber Blue, 6 Speed, Cloth Recaro Seats, black accent package... only thing missing was the PP option. I hummed and hawed about it not having the PP and the dealer told me it was unlikely that I could place an order for one considering it was mid-June (in reality, I believe that they just wanted me to buy the one they had on the lot, so I played this to my advantage) ... When I say this, keep in mind that I live in Canada... Sticker was 42 and change, got them down to 37500 and managed to get a few free synthetic oil changes out of them. I figure with how deep the aftermarket is for these things, I won't have any trouble getting my car to exceed what the performance pack is capable of. Ford Racing themselves makes a great suspension upgrade kit which is a step or two above what is given in the PP's, but still retains street ride quality. I only really plan on doing track days, weekend autocross events, and test and tune nights at the strip every so often. Now if I were to do this all over again and have an order put in for a car exactly the way I wanted.... I'd definitely pick the PP as it would keep the modding bug at bay for a little longer. Right now I'm kinda chomping at the bit, but I still love what I got.
nateafcsouth you want the PP premium. I just did a kbb on my '16 PP premium and it came out to be 27k under 10k miles. I don't think buying used is a bad way to go
Sean Zhang depends, I bought a used one one owner car, it was an older guy like 70’s he barley used it a 2016 5.0 bone stock when I bought it, it had about 7k ish miles and now it’s got about 17k miles or so and it’s procharged will I ever sell it? Probably not, but you can sometimes find some good cars that aren’t beaten the shit out of
Aviator22 the whole 18 line up to me sucks i bought a 17 ingot silver performance package sticker was 37,090 i paid 30,200 starting to put some go fast goodies on her i drive truck for a living the car only has 600 miles on it lol
I dont think its worth it. The 3.73 gear ratio is good for 1/4 mile racing not high way racing. The key to gearing is being in the sweet spot. Its also about where your driving the car. I swapped in 285/305s to my base model GT and lowered it on eibach progressive sportline springs. Roush intake, ford xpipe, exhaust system and tune is pushing that 435 to 465hp. Also strut tower brace for about 175$. the entire package cost me about 3k$. I think those mods are way better than the PP ugrades. The car handles like a z06, with the suspension, power, and tire upgrades. If youd rather have the out of the box upgrades go for the PP. If youd rather increment your upgrades to the issues you find while driving get the base and upgrade as you see the need. That works the best! Personally I like seeing cars that evolved thru its ownership than out of the factory cars.
I own a 17 performance pack Mustang Premium. The extra 3 grand was definitely worth it.
The Torsion set-up alone, along with the brakes, can easily eat up the extra cash you spend on the performance pack if you were to put it on a stock GT, and I don't believe this was touched on this in your presentation.
The extra performance goodies like the strut tower brace, which as stated in the video makes it easier to "point and shoot", stiffer bushings and springs, larger sway bars, heavy duty radiator, are basically frosting on the proverbial cake.
It would be difficult to purchase and install all of these upgrades for 3 thousand dollars.
With this being written, I enjoyed the review. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to more videos gentlemen.
Eric Prochnow thanks man!! Yeah very good points, I think it would be a costly pain in the neck to do the upgrades yourself, much better idea to have someone do them for you and buy it as is
Eric Prochnow thanks for the advice I'm looking at a 17 premium with Track Pack and was wondering if it was worth it.
shadow black........with the PP wheels. I get vette owners giving me props. To me, the wheels alone are worth it.
Along with the great looking wheels as opposed to those girly chrome wheels and the base GTs
Eric Prochnow I've got a 17 gt grabber blue performance pack as seen in my thumbnail. Diff worth the extra $ car is sick a lot of fun to drive. Ive also got the recaro seats and bigger screen with mine. Not sure u guys mentioned
The Premium Performance Package in Ford's answer to the 1LE Camaro. It's well worth the price. Stiffer springs and shocks. A much bigger tire package and a big brake system. It's all engineered by the gearheads of at Ford so it all fits correctly and you haven't voided any warranties. Just the brake kit is about $2k. The gears are over $1k installled. Some friends and I compared it directly to my GR350R and a base GT. It shits all over the base GT. The gearing gets it off the line faster, wider rubber means less wheel slip. The car rides differently too if feels like a spring ready to snap a bit more nervous in a good way.Comparing it to the Shelby was a bit much. It's hard to believe they both share a lot of the same underpinnings But $3k is a no brainer. Cross off the adaptive cruise control or the nav in place of the PPP.
Fred Garvin good points man, yeah I agree it's definitely worth it to anybody who loves driving, you have me all jealous over here of your gt350r!
I honestly don't even know how this is a valid question. For 3k, can you even replace the components in the aftermarket? You get the Ford Performance Street pack (minus lowering spring), 6 piston Brimbo brakes, 19" wheels/tires, upgraded radiator, strut tower brace, 3.73 diff gear, and a splitter for front brake cooling.
Man...about time someone compared the two. Awesome vid
sinmel S55.0 thanks man I appreciate that!
PP IS everything , it's not like an empty package - night and day
Herakles I agree, to the driver focused owner it's worth it hands down.
i got the 17 premium performance. i always said id never pay extra for dohickies but i do not regret getting the total package 🙌
B G Is it faster than 6gen Camaro SS?
Checking in after the 670 hp Roush supercharger install on our 2016 GT convertible manual trans w/3.31 gears. I got 285 Continental Extreme Contact Sport tires in the rear, 255's front and w/that tire and gearing, 670 hp is actually very manageable and hooks up nicely from a stop (I don't know how 3.73's are). The Coyote power build remains similar to stock but around 4k RPM hold on! It runs great and the power is super smooth and as a daily driver you'd never know it's supercharged unless you step on it. Unfortunately you can't hear much of the whine. However, I've had a starting issue since installing it (at a local Ford dealer that said they did a few of them, research dealers if you put one on). It starts hard after sitting for about 30 mins (but if only 10 mins or over an hour of sitting, it fires up perfectly), not sure what's going on there. I ended up getting the Roush warranty but I want to get it resolved. Be aware (at least in WI) insurance companies don't like you supercharging your Mustang, but rates didn't go up that much; I did have to switch insurance companies. MPG on a 800 mile road trip overall was just over 24 mpg w/a trip best interstate stretch of 70 mph of 27.2! In my normal driving when I was getting 17-18, there's only a 1-2 mpg penalty, it is not driven lightly! Overall I'm happy. I hope you and you all in Texas are doing well and recovering strongly! I hope the Whataburgers survived!
I have a 2016 Mustang GT Performance Package and love it! Gears, Springs, Brakes, Wheels etc. Worth every penny !I high recommend it .....
that was an awesome video, very informative. I was wondering the same thing. thanks man
Bruno Pecly thanks man I appreciate that!
It's worth the $3000 and then some.
Thanks for sharing this Video..I really enjoyed Watching....Excellent Comparison..i have a 16 GT Base as well...Keep up the great work
rhampton1914 thanks a lot man I appreciate that!
Love the vid man! The dash is a PP thing. The PP also has a larger radiator. And the larger brakes won't really give you much noticeably street braking performance difference, but will give you much better performance on track because more heat capacity and less brake fade and what not. Source: I drive a 15 GT PP. Oh and the 3.73 torsen is worth every penny
The Performance package also has a cowl brace and larger radiator too.
Great video. I would say p.p. is worth it. Now if your on a budget or you rather get the premium trim upgrade, you still getting a sweet daily driver
I think the Performance Back has an improved cooling system for the engine and maybe the transmission too.
The trim piece on the dashboard that you call plastic is actually aluminum
I have a 17 GT PP and I totally think It’s worth it. The wheels are sick, the 373s are great and the Brembos alone are worth the difference.
cool video guys! subbed. nice and real. looking at either a 2019 GT Premium or one with PP1. Not sure which one. non PP1 has heated seats and cooled seats but PP1 doesn't.....so it comes down to suspension. I'm not racing it....daily driver.
Thanks for this. I have a standard GT and was wondering what the difference was.
Sway bars, k brace springs tower brace large rad 3.73 more than just brakes and gears. BUT...... great video!
the pp 6 piston brembos won't fit with the non pp 18"wheels........so you'd have to get new wheels.......the pp also has a k brace , larger rad and larger rear sway bar.....the $3000 price sounding better now?
well this just made me make up my mind to get the performance pack
I wish I had the 3.55. They give you the best of both, better pick but not as bad of gas as the 3.73. Don't think it was mentioned but he sway bars are bigger on the PP. I plan on putting the tower brace and K brace on mine. Great vid
Dude really 355 and 373 isnt that much different i bet it wouldnt be more than 1 mpg diff on the highway IF THAT. The trans gearing is close as hell in these models so its gonna be snappy weather its 331 355 or 373. 331 is similar to 410 in the 10 and older cars and 18 up cars with their long geared trans....355 is like 430 and 373 is like 456. There wont be much difference in them performance wise or mpg wise. Just get the pp car with 373 is the best gear for na dont worry about mpg and "daily driving" idk why people always say that "oh 355 are better for "daily"" wtf does that even mean? Lol. I mean its either a car driven on the highway alot or its not makes no difference if its a "daily" lol. People have feared the gear every since the old days when the dohc v8 first came to ford. The old 90s na 4.6 cobras were high winding engines...very similar to the coyote just an older not as good version...those cars when na become a beast with 456 gears instead of factory 327 but many people wont go beyond 373-410 because they think its gonna somehow make their car unstreetable but that could not be further from the truth. In town driving becomes easier in many ways and on the highway you might lose 3 mpg or so going from 327 to 456 on those cars...so the difference betwern 355 and 373 in these with their short ass trans gearing isn't really going to make any difference. If you are na and plan to stay that way get 373...if youre going for big power with boost 331 is best for many reasons. Dont worry about 373 tacking 4th before the quarter because once you add power and swap the manifold and spin it to 8k you won't be trapping the quarter beyond 4th it extends out the speed you can go in 4th enough to not have issues.
331 = boosted
373 = na
No reason to be in the middle with 355 because it isnt that much different.
big difference in a PP than a base GT hands down. worth every penny. i have a PP Premium and more than happy with it. also has a 3:73 rear end.
I plan on picking up a 2018 base model. Most driving is daily driving for me. However, I'd like to install a strut tower kit, maybe a sway bar, and some nicer wheels (maybe 19's). So, do you guys recommend going to 19"? Does it affect the ride much going to 19" wheels? Also, how badly does it affect acceleration going to the bigger diameter 275's on a base model?
Condor1970 I went to 20s on my car and to a 285 in the rear, rides great!
Awesome vid man. I picked up a non pp gt premium in 15. But so far I've been adding the pp parts afterwards. I have the strut tower brace, front and rear sway bars so far. But off the showroom the pp is a good bargain because you really don't save too much money doing it yourself if you price out the entire package aftermarket. Had the pp in my last mustang and gearing was too high for me as a daily. I think 3.55 gears is he magic number 4 a daily though.
1234zcrom nice man! Yeah I could see where 3:55 would be a very good middle ground for fun and daily use! Appreciate you watching man!
Great review...thanks!
S Buttsyo thanks man!
U get the Torsen differential on pp gt
I know I'm late to the party, but what's the name of the intro song??
Really good no bullshit review. I thought the owner of the base model was pretty honest about the differences.
jasoncoder appreciate that man!
the wet and snow mode for sure is going to keep your car on the road xD
Looking at trading my 14 3.7 for this. Thanks for the reveiw keep them coming!
Daily 3.7 awesome man good luck on getting the new one!! Appreciate you watching!
I may have missed it in the vid What gears does your car have The non performance pack gts I've been looking at offer 3.15s,3.31s and 3.55s
Daily 3.7 yeah sorry idk if I said it, mine has 3:15 in there
I have the same car, same year and color. I think Ford realized the PP was a good deal and raised the price on the package when I went order it vs. a 16 model, but it was still worth it.
Flanvan Basir nice man yeah is a killer deal, and even at the correct price I think it’s worth it 100%
My boss has one of these, its pretty solid
Good vid 👍
Have the PP with the premium pack and I have to say... oh “f” ya! Way better then stock GT. Good compare gents.
Im really torn on buying a 2018 Mustang GT or the GT premium with performance pack. Don't know if i want to spend the extra 2000k going from 301a to 400a. Then i want to buy the black versions of those SVE wheels you have. It turns out Dallas is only a couple hours from that shop so i may take a drive out there if i purchase. Do i need the extra stuff the performance pack has if i buy the gt with the 3.55? not sure if the brakes are that better.
briang573 I believe the base 18 brakes are the same as mine, done a ton of track stuff and never had an issue, if it’s performance you’re after. My vote is the 18
Question for you and sorry if its a stupid question - If i were to buy those 20 inch sve rims and tires would i need to buy lowering springs? The stock tires for the 2018 mustang gt I'm looking at are 18inch.
briang573 you wouldn’t need to buy them, they definitely do compliment the look, but not a necessity!
great video bud
bryan70546 thanks man I appreciate that!
Dope ass video !!
Contusion Daytona thanks man!!!
Can someone please tell me what is the difference between a 2017 gt performance package and a regular gt?
Thank you
suver turks 373 gears, suspension, you get oil pressure and vac gauges. 0-60 is 4 flat compared to 4.5. I just got a 2017 performance today and adore it
I’m actually torn between a left over 2017 performance pack, and a 2018 base model.
kyokushinkuma well I love them 2017 obviously but haven’t gotten my hands on a 2018 yet, hopefully soon but from what I’ve heard, if you can get an 18 for a reasonable price then that sounds like the better option!
Oh God Yeah I forgot all about The 373 Gearing in the manuals.. I call them the reel them in 373 Gears... LMAO.. I like Traction control too for bad weather day's but it does pull power and at the same time help you get the power to the road which is a weird thing.. I can bang second with traction on.. I will say with Traction Off all bets are off, You can get her side ways way easier.. I think the LSD locks up quicker with it on too maybe I just think it is??
Is the Performance Package only for Manual 6SPeed once or automatic aswell?
Hugosson only 6speed manual
What exhaust it that?! It sounds amazing!
Foufou Vlogs his is an x pipe and muffler delete!
I would say it is worth the 3K because it will be faster and over all perform better! Where it gets even better is when the 2018 comes out and you can buy the performance pack with magnetic ride control and 10 speed auto! It will run me 53K because the over all price of the Mustang is going up in 2018. I am also adding the 401A pack and several others because I want everything to make the car nicer and I am hoping that the 2018's will have the heat and ac in the whole seat and not just the bottom. If not, hello Camaro!
I can't wait to get a Mustang. My dealer shows the Shelby Gt350 at 54K. I've been hearing about the insane mark up. I will find out if they are lying about the 54K soon.
This late in the model year, you really need to carefully check out any left-over GT350's going for "factory list price". Just because the car is "technically" new doesn't mean it's "new" (meaning it could have been used as a demo - drove hard ... put away wet, by dealer, salesmen, mechanics, 'prep crew' or pulled back when some guy couldn't swing the payments)!
New, in dealership talk, only means it was never registered...doesn't mean it was never driven or that it wasn't damaged/repaired by the dealer ship...'''been a lot of reports of dealers installing GT350 spec parts incorrectly too, like the Shelby front air dam" - accidents happen and if they can get you to pay full price, even without markup, then they come out ahead. 'just saying..! your money, your choice.
Bryant Roscoe Greenway Ford in Orlando Florida has 2017 new gt350 cars for 53k sticker 58k not bad price
Not knocking dudes car at all because they are right you can change the gears and do all that, Most people eventually go bigger on Wheels eventually anyway even the PP cars.. I want that 305 on the Back and 275 up front myself.. But my 275 to 255 set up nice too, very nice, the car handles like it's on rails to me.. Seriously Ford Nailed it with these GT's.. Once they dropped the Coyote's in and fixed the rear axle's in these cars they Nailed it..
he has a corsa doesnt he
Does your base 16 GT have the 3.31 gear or a 3.55? A 3.55 is a great gear for the Mustang. Always has been. I had a 2004 Mach 1 with 3.55's and it was right on the money. A lot more involved now doing a gear swap since they went away from the solid rear axel. Swapping gears used to be a snap but now with an independent rear its not as easy as it used to be. That translates into a much more expensive mod. Either way great vid fellas and enjoy your rides. 👍
I had a fbo mach with stock gears and while it wasnt bad 355 def isnt optimal for drag racing in those cars. Acceleration with 430-456 is night and day on a mach turns them into a stockish terminator beating machine. Also 355 in that car is way different than 355 in these cars the mt82 is geared mucy shorter than the old tr3650 in the mach. Trans gearing has ALOT to do with it. 373 on these is similar to 456 on the mach....355 is like 430 on it...355 on the mach would be like 273s on the coyote (even though they arent available with 273) so comparing 355 on the 5 speed to 355 with these mt82s is a completely different animal. The high winding dohc fords like the mach, the older na cobras and the coyote all nerd aggrrssive gearing to get max acceleration and performance in general so that is why ford themselves went in 2011 to the aggressively geared mt82. You may like 355 on the mach that is fine but its far from optimal acceleration wise
Nice video guys i agree with u , i have a ingot silver 17 performance package awesome car but to be honest if u are going to drag race i think the base model will work better
lol the driver is like"well it's not that much difference " deep down he's like damn this car is much better than my mom PP -
Definetely worth it.
Great video bro. I drive a 2015 V6 with the Roush CAI, Flowmaster Outlaw Axle-backs, and the MPT 93PR-X tune.... part of me still wishes I would have gotten a 5.0. My wallet just couldn't take that payment at the time. It could now but I almost have this one paid off and with me starting to mod it over the past 6 months.... I have fallen for my car all over again. V6 or V8.... a Mustang is a Mustang. Hearing you talk about the differences in the cars with an open mind was great. I did laugh extremely hard when you talked about the hood blinker. Great video though man.
Chris Suggs amen man! Mustangs are mustangs, before I got my 5.0 I have a heavily modded cyclone! I miss the crap out of it! And lol I feel bad for you too, every s550 needs hood blinkers!! Lol
I'll pass on the hood blinkers bro. 😂😂😂 I want the carbon fiber 4 inch cal heat extraction hood for mine. But 73mm TB with long tube headers and a off-road H pipe are in my near future before the hood. I would love to have a set 3.73s too but like the hood.... later down the road.
Chris Suggs v6 isn't a mustang, it's an insult to a mustang. You should have bought a Camry.
Chris Suggs you'd need 410s in your v6 not 373s and that would make more of a difference than headers and an intake in the seat where it counts
brent basore it's people like you that give car guys a bad name. I daily my car to work.... 410s would be stupid. Very seldom to I ever go to the track so 410s would be pointless for me. But opinions are like assholes, Everyone has one. Thanks for yours.
Leather infotainment system
I feel the same way about hood vents... I am so Happy with my buy, I have zero Buyer's Remorse... Even though they are coming out with S650's that look Worse Fo sure.. They may be faster but they ruined the sexist Mustang they have made since the 60's. And I love the 2012's, that look too.. When they came out with 1st gen coyote.. They looked sexy too.. The S197's I think..
Can you comment on the the gas mileage difference and the noise levels on the highway.
snomonster3 he said that gas mileage was slightly less, he said he gets about 22hwy and I get about 25-26hwy
Thanks! I'm starting to save up for a used 2016 and am probably going for one with the performance pack.
Prius bro, prius.
When you drive 3 hours a day the difference between 22 and 26mpg can be a good chunk of cash. The only thing I don't want in the performance pack is the quicker gears. Coming from a foxbody, both of these are still going to be improvements but I still want to know.
Plus the staggered wheel suck in. Cost in the long run. U can't rotate tires
Revenge Fitness lol who buys a muscle car and complains bout rotating tires 😂😂😂
brian goss when tires are 250 -400 a piece it matters .
I do, but I compete in a racing class where changing the width of the wheels isn't legal, changing spring rates isn't legal, and camber modifications are limited to factory allowed slotting of the strut hole.
Lmao. If you broke buy a FRS
Who cares, you will probably go through 2 sets of rears before you have to replace the front tires.
(The gearing alone is worth the 3K, without the Wheels, Brakes, or the strut tower in my opinion..) I know a few PPL who thought they were going to do a gear swap in their Driveways who regrated it too.. That's a skill your not gonna just watch a Video and get that right.. You need to be a wrencher For Real.. If you are good..
I can't tell you how many times those 373's Reel'ed other cars in right away, or they never even had a chance even.. I beat BMW's the Turbo Straight 6 and a lot of other 400 wheel cars light to light. With a decent, 1,2,3 it's over.. Obviously they make cars faster than this, There are dodges and Camaro's making very Big power so it's what you like or are into.. I really thought I was gonna go SS, But the look of the GT won me over.. And I was never going to find a 1 Garage Kept owner barely driven Muscle Car ever again like this, with 9K Miles on it with the PP.. Not ever again.. And the price was Really right. She will be SC'ed in a few years...
I just bought my son a 2017 premium GT performance Mustang with only 8000 miles on it. The wife is gonna kill me.
I bought a 2017 GT in Grabber Blue a couple of months back as dealers were clearing out the rest of their 2017's in prep for the incoming '18s.. I had visited a few dealers and came across one that had what I was looking for on the lot... 5.0, Grabber Blue, 6 Speed, Cloth Recaro Seats, black accent package... only thing missing was the PP option. I hummed and hawed about it not having the PP and the dealer told me it was unlikely that I could place an order for one considering it was mid-June (in reality, I believe that they just wanted me to buy the one they had on the lot, so I played this to my advantage) ... When I say this, keep in mind that I live in Canada... Sticker was 42 and change, got them down to 37500 and managed to get a few free synthetic oil changes out of them.
I figure with how deep the aftermarket is for these things, I won't have any trouble getting my car to exceed what the performance pack is capable of. Ford Racing themselves makes a great suspension upgrade kit which is a step or two above what is given in the PP's, but still retains street ride quality. I only really plan on doing track days, weekend autocross events, and test and tune nights at the strip every so often.
Now if I were to do this all over again and have an order put in for a car exactly the way I wanted.... I'd definitely pick the PP as it would keep the modding bug at bay for a little longer. Right now I'm kinda chomping at the bit, but I still love what I got.
Ron Smith this whole comment 100% yes!
I bought an used 2015 GT Premium, almost 3 months I still not get my license plate.
A lot of my friends who told me, never buy a brand new mustang or camaro, not worth it.
yea buy a used one the the previous owner beat the shit out of . great advice
40k brand new (loaded out) vs 25k for the same car 2 years down the road...
Probably will come with an exhaust and window tint.
nateafcsouth you want the PP premium. I just did a kbb on my '16 PP premium and it came out to be 27k under 10k miles.
I don't think buying used is a bad way to go
Brian Thomas no but don't hate bro because we buy new.
Sean Zhang depends, I bought a used one one owner car, it was an older guy like 70’s he barley used it a 2016 5.0 bone stock when I bought it, it had about 7k ish miles and now it’s got about 17k miles or so and it’s procharged will I ever sell it? Probably not, but you can sometimes find some good cars that aren’t beaten the shit out of
I hate how they're offering a auto PP for the 18.
Aviator22 I love my 6 speed but I bet a PP with that 10-speed auto is gonna be freggin quick
Brothers On Wheels I know . But it's just one step closer to phasing out Manuals....
Aviator22 yeah that’s the sucky part, idk if there’s any way of stopping that
Aviator22 I love it! I love manuals, but auto is superior when building real power. Mine will be an Auto for sure.
Aviator22 the whole 18 line up to me sucks i bought a 17 ingot silver performance package sticker was 37,090 i paid 30,200 starting to put some go fast goodies on her i drive truck for a living the car only has 600 miles on it lol
I own a 16 with p/p it's worth it to me
Dude the performance pack is way worth it.. lol at the end yall trying to rationalize that it's not
Sorry Gentlemen. I repeated a lot of other things being commented on. Note to self: read comments, then comment.
Eric Prochnow no worries at all! You took the time to watch it and comment! I appreciate the response man!
Well, $3000...
I bought the base GT and did the upgrades myself for cheaper and imo it's better...
I dont think its worth it. The 3.73 gear ratio is good for 1/4 mile racing not high way racing. The key to gearing is being in the sweet spot. Its also about where your driving the car. I swapped in 285/305s to my base model GT and lowered it on eibach progressive sportline springs. Roush intake, ford xpipe, exhaust system and tune is pushing that 435 to 465hp. Also strut tower brace for about 175$. the entire package cost me about 3k$. I think those mods are way better than the PP ugrades. The car handles like a z06, with the suspension, power, and tire upgrades. If youd rather have the out of the box upgrades go for the PP. If youd rather increment your upgrades to the issues you find while driving get the base and upgrade as you see the need. That works the best! Personally I like seeing cars that evolved thru its ownership than out of the factory cars.
There worth about 20k now
I dont see too many blacks driving V8 Mustangs.
R they drive bullshit cars that make them look rich lol
really? you both sound like fucking idiots
Lol. That’s funny. I got 2017 GT performance package and I love it.
I don't ever buy anything new that depreciates in value be smart not stupid