Alfa Romeo Giulia STAGE 3 TUNE: better than the Veloce?!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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there is nothing boring or slow about a ''standard'' Giulia
Giulia’s are slow af lol
@@justanotherone685 against what car?
@@justanotherone685 so are you
@@justanotherone685 Giulias are the fastest cars in their class. Nothing slow about them.
@@Mikab61 they literally get walked by stock m3 and m4. Lol
How on earth is anyone buying a Giulia Automatic without the lovely Paddleshifters? :D
Yep, they are so well made. One of the few options where it’s well worth the money.
I use mine every day! Wouldn't be without them
I did. I bought a vulcano black veloce with red leather interior. i sold it after 4 months and bought a vulcano black veloce with red interior but with the paddles :)
You can add paddles down the road if you don't have them a bit of software magic and ebay.
Sadly me I didn’t think about it but the transmissions awesome so it doesn’t really matter
I love my 2021!!! More Americans need to get into them!!! They see the HP numbers and overlook them, but this is the best car I have ever had and the steering is way better than any dodge or chevy!!!
At the price point, I'll just stick with BMW.
Do you still love it? After losing my scat pack to bum ass thieves I’m picking my 2018 ti up today. Besides the cold air and an exhaust upgrade I’m thinking of getting the tune/turbo upgrade from alfissimo Or euro compulsion. Have you done any mods?
@Rick_James I had to get rid of it. It was base model and wanted more. I loved it, though!!! My wife has a Stelvio Veloce 2022 still!!! We love Alfa and no I didn't mod it.
@@Rick_James there's this dude that did all those upgrades on YT. I think it's titled fastest 400hp giulia. He has all the stats and everything
The Alfa Giulia is never boring.
Well, the 2.0 in the Giulia's are (or were) all identical. It was just the map that made the 280bhp for the Veloce. I believe they made changes to the engine to ensure people didn't just buy a standard car and then have it mapped.
Now we are talking! 🤘🏻🐍
And the race mode is what the car needs! 🏁
Only wishing Tavares will understand that a GTV version is mandatory!
The "normal" Giulia and the Veloce share the same 2.0 Turbo Engine. You can get the same Power from it. If you don't need the Veloce Sport Package, you can buy the "normal" Giulia. It is that simple ;)
the double exhaust + diffuser is 1000euro's, with the ecu tune u have the same car but without AWD
@@AmsterdamSam the brakes and the seats are also different. Not just a 1000€ difference
Marco...you need to have a word with Romeo Ferraris about their alloy wheel choice, these are awful and the set they had on the tuned QV were also terrible. It really ruins the look of the car. Fab work on the tune though
Ahah I already told them my honest opinion about the wheels on this car
Honestly, on track, this straight 4 sounds better to my ears than the V6 in the QV. It has a rev-happy spirit to it, like the old twinsparks, while the V6 is rather rough and shouty.
Great show and happy to see you again in English !!
Those alloys give it a US Tuning look. One sweet S.O.B 👍
Terrible wheels on a beautiful car
I have a Guilia and really dont think its boring.
I've never understood people portraying the Veloce trim as being some sort of performance upgrade from any other 2.0L gas powered Giulia. It is not.
Well done, I would do the same if I had a slower car. 320BHP is more than enough to take on top BMWs and Audis
With the current tunes and intake and exhaust these cars are making 390 hp 😵😵😵 and that's on the dyno
@@Randomadventurelife which tune makes that much hp?
@@Randomadventurelife 390?
@@Randomadventurelife Bullshit 330HP is the best you can get out of these unless you do a hybrid turbo.
@@Randomadventurelife Bullshit!
I saw another video where the guy dropped the sports control from a Quadrupholio into one of these base models and then he reprogrammed the ECU and all of a sudden he could too a power slide
keep pushing mate!
You are a fine stand up young Gentleman. Thank you very much for an excellent presentation in perfect English. Making a piece of your fine Italian design culture accessibel for me. Many a paisano could take an example in you.
this is not stage 3 ever, stage 1 for this engine which is just Ecu remap takes it to 310hp and 460nm, it's the same engine as in the 280hp variant. This is maximum stage 1+. otherwise great car, i m looking to buy one.
Maybe their version comes lower power. The us version is 280 correct. And some tunes making 390
@@Randomadventurelife you're right I picked up an AR Giulia lusso ti Q4 n its pretty peppy for a 4banger.
I been looking at all the mods available for the guilia if and when I decide to buy one I seen 3 or so tunes out maybe there's more also that pedal thing auto madness , euro compultion , JBA so what makes this a stage 3 tune ? I see a stock air box , he says stock exhaust , performance was good but stage 3?
@@Randomadventurelife ya with a bigger turbo a tune is 320 max
@@tsnaha no people are making that much with the stock turbo.
so that is basically a Veloce spec Giulia, as the MY17 was already in excess of 300PS or thereabout
also, Alfa built the Quadrifoglio and THEN used the bedrock to design the other models. Hence the steering, etc etc
this has a lot more potential than a bmw 3 series - better chassis and lighter
Alfa is not lighter than base 3 series plus you can buy 330i with 255 hp with equal 0-60 mph but tuning is much better, easier with bmw. 400 hp 330i for $1500 or 2021 bmw 340i inline 6 with 380 hp stock for same price as new 2022-23 Ti and get to 500 hp for not much more than $2k. Tuned 450 hp bmw 340i will beat QV.
LOL only M5 competition is faster than QV. You know, fast is not only 1/4 mile, it's speed in corners as well. Check our Nurburgring times. And that's why Giulia chassis is superior to 3-series. Only thing missing is an engine between i4 and V6 in QV to compete with 340i
But which wheels are fitted on this Giulia?
Grande marco! Bel video!
Ma le palette eventualmente si possono montare aftermarket?
Grazie Marco! Bella domanda, secondo me si può fare ma viene fuori un mezzo casino
Non ho capito una mazza, 😜 ma conosco il video in italiano e ti lascio un altro like 😃👍
❤Alfa Romeo 🇮🇹 👍
upload AR Stelvio/giulia 2.2 DIESEL tuning -upgrade video .please.
Where do you get this tune from?
Following
This is not stage 3, maybe 1.5.
Good video, makes sence to me . What about a 2021 giulia , I heard there's a block on the ECU ? Anyone know if that's true ?
May I have the wheel and tire fitment spec for this Giulia?
AND...(sorry!) you can easily have a map include 'sport' mode to remove the traction control 😍
Me acabo de comprar un Guilia 2.0turbo de finales 2018 con 83.000km pienso ponerle stage1 y valvula de descarga de turbo algun consejo o sugerencia?
What does the stage 3 include?
Car is very good. A better presenter would do the justice it deserves.
ended up getting a g70 vs this car and i’m glad i did. guilias just can’t make power for crap. 😂
Came from a g70 4 cylinder to a Giulia. The g70 feels like a retirement home hearse car compared to the goulia
What wheels you running??
No paddle shifters.... 👎🏻
The GTA has Sport Cup 2, not 4s. And one of the reasons was that Pirelli doesn't make the Trofeo R in the size for the GTA. And it's not a big market for only 500 cars.
BR Performance gives this car 310-320 stage 1, I don't know what you mean by Stage 3. Has it changed turbo, intercooler, downpipe and so on?
I drove the GTAm last week (video dropping today) and I've been told they've gone for the Michelin as the car was better to drive, Pirelli would've been happy to develop a tire for Alfa Romeo even for "just" cars (they do that for Pagani which makes even less cars, so why not for Alfa?). Romeo Ferraris has developed a full exhaust, as well as increasing the stock turbo make the car reliable. I think a Stage 1 with +300hp is pure fantasy, people just want to buy a number and don't realise you need to make also the car driveable and reliable
What if I tuned chip my Giulia lease company car, from 200hp to 310hp. Will I have any problem :)
Probably
What was the acceleration?
this is simply a stock giulia with ecu tune. not a stage 3. same intake, same exhaust, same downpipe. stock giulia can already be bought with 280 HP, and the 200 HP is the same engine just with different ecu software. The tuner basically added 40 hp..
lovely car, and more hp is already great, but this is simply not a stage 3.
The exhaust is custom made by Romeo Ferraris and it includes 200cells catalyst and OPF delete, intake is different as well as the turbo (they modified the stock one). There's more than a simple ECU reflash in this car
What wheels are those?
Why does the display screen flash when driving? I have noticed that in a number of Giulia vids
It doesn't flash in real life, it's a distortion seen only by the lens of the camera
My display blinks often.
How does the automatic gearbox cope with the additional torque? what is it even rated for?
It's the same transmission of the Veloce which is the ZF Transmission " 8HP70 ". According to the manufacturer, this transmission has a limit of 700nm. It's been developed first for the BMW 760Li V12, you can bet it's strong!
@@MarchettinoEN Are you sure? Last time I remember reading the specs sheet it stated the 2.0L transmission is 8HP50 which is 500 nm max torque limit. The 8HP70 is equipped in QV models.
@@williamsebastian88you are correct, 500nm is the safe limit for 4pot petrol Giulia.
Does the Race mode turn off ABS also?
Nope
Inglese perfetto.
Grazie Francesco!
I want "two"
How much hp?
It's explained in the video
You already get 310bhp and over 500Nm with stage 1 tune. So not stage 3 then ?
How do you get that power with a simple ECU reflash, stock exhaust and intake?
@@MarchettinoEN as far as I know the only difference between Base and Veloce is in the exhaust, and it is not major. There are differences in the model years though with the MY17 making the most power. Then dropping when they removed the EGR which wasn't being used somehow made a difference. Then up again almost to initial glory with the addition of the GPF. This is vaguely documented on American forums which mostly just look at the 280PS engine. it is less clear how the 200PS engine was modified over the years. Of course I could be talking rubbish
@@MarchettinoEN both 200 and 280 reach the 310hp with a remap.
I've been subscribed to the old channel for years missing the english content--I'm just now finding out you have an english channel. Big L on my part.
Thanks 😀
Hp?
just stage 1 give u 320-480 nm not stage 3..... weerd urs not hase steering flippers all have it here
Stage 3 with no RACE mode? how
Romeo Ferraris has implemented Race mode, as you can see through the video
200 hp??? I thought it is 280 hp
Overseas have the 200hp variant but 🇺🇸 start from 280hp
le probléme des alfa guilia d'avant 2020 c'est le ripage lorsque l'on braque completment le bruit est infernal on dirait une roue est crevée avec des a coups les concesions ne peuve rien faire
thats a tough accent.
Shame also its such a low revving engine for a petrol
it's turbo
@@iMANTlS doesn't stop others from having 7k red lines
@@benzinapaul7416 it's worse for turbo engines to max rev while the torque and HP on lower revs , including wasting petrol on higher revs with lower output
@@iMANTlS it depends on the setup. japanese turbo engines hit 8-9k and delivers a ton of horsepower. alfa chose a low revving daily engine, and it looks boring.
@@cagataytekin6318 I'm not experienced. But why does the 911 turbo is lower than the GT3 version. Even the GT2 does not reach the GT3 level. Also, the 458 and 488. What Japanese cars did you mean? is it stock turbos? or modified?
Show me 1/4 mile times or 60-130pulls. On the track any car can be fast. Viewers cant tell.
I love my 2019 TI Sport. I have the smile on my face when i get off at home after the twisties by my house. Get one, you wont be dissapointed
Yep, same here! 60k miles on my 19 Ti Sport, still love it
Ive taken my 200bhp above 130mph and the back end gets very light! If you boost the power at least get the boot spoiler to give downforce! Theres a good reason the veloce has a rear boot spoiler and lower diffuser!
What rims are those? Somebody..
There is nothing stage 3 about this, stage 3 in the tuning world involves upgraded turbo. This is stage 2 since you’ve changed the downpipe.
In fact, the turbo on this car is hybrid as Romeo Ferraris took the base of the stock turbo and modified it
@@MarchettinoEN oh sweet, thanks for the correction! In that case awesome, hope to be able to do that with my Giulia someday too. Cheers!
Stage 3 and just 320bhp? 😂😂 ight I’m out
More like stage 1
@@nexushexus4365 facts
@@nexushexus4365 my Guilia has stage 1 and has 288 hp and 500nm toreq, that was the max said the tuner
What make and model of wheels & tyres have you installed? Are they splits as well (wider rear). They're looking good!
What’s the price for the stage 3 tune?
I'd recommend you to drop them a message for a quote because I didn't ask for prices of the Stage 1/2/3 tune
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700 per tune and not including labor so about 800 a session.
If I'm not mistaken the Madness Autoworks piggypack ECU gets you 320hp....If im hearing correctly thats now considered a stage 3 tune....hmm....Again Im in the US so I have the 280hp Giulia which is alot more easily achievable at least to 320hp....I'm considering doing this soon.
Hmmm... Did he say Standard, boring, slow Giulia you find everywhere????
320 on a stage 3. That super bad tbh. A stage goes from 200 to 290/300
What kind and model of pads use romeoferraris at this car?
I personally think 2.0 Giulia are much more fun as a daily driver
Gran caduta di stile con sti cerchi
So how much is it?
What year is this car?
What size of rims are on car?
Never seen or heard of this version with only 200bhp and with no paddle shifters
Paddles are option
@@MarchettinoEN They come from factory in almost all Giulias. Normally they are 2.0 with 280bhp
@@alexisamtosta it depends on each country....in Spain are standard for 2l petrol versions, but optional for the less powerful Diesel ones..
@@opskier2 Good to know
Very nice. What tune did this car use?
Thanks! The car has the stock turbo but increased, 200 cells cats, OPF delete, ECU reflash, new air intake, KW adjustable suspensions and HP brake pads
@@MarchettinoEN Nice. Who did the re-flash? Car sounds fantastic. Nice video. Ciao!
www.romeoferraris.com/en/catalog/ecu-upgrade-for-alfa-romeo-giulia-2-0-at8-2l1995cc-tb-4cil-280cv/
Love the build! Is this one AWD or RWD?
Thanks! It's RWD 👍
Just buy a Quadrifoglio.
It's way more expensive to buy and also run
In the US you're looking at 119k thats with a 25k dollar market adjustment, the 30/60k mile maintenance is to do the drive train and they need to remove the entire front end of the engine it costs $$$ here to do, thats why you don't see a lot of ordinary people owning them, you have to have the income to be able to enjoy them, sure you can get them used and one with the service history thats already had that work done but it's not the same, you never know how the previous owner treated the car. I've seen top hp on a tuned QV here in South Florida was 600-650hp and that was with basic ECU tuning and Intake, exhaust and turbo modifications. And modding on the QV is also $$$ because if the parts aren't available you have to get them custom made which is much much more expensive.
@@SirioAdler I got my quad used for $50k 6k miles on it. Yes, maintenance has been expensive.
@@SirioAdler lol; I own one. You don't have to take the front end off to do the 30k maintenance. I had mine done last year.
i have this car but its just slow its a 4 banger and there’s nothing you can do to this car to make it fast
Of course you can! The chassis is fantastic, just play with the exhaust/ECU and you already have a good improvement
Dont know much about tuning hunh?! These cars are ahead of its time youll see