No way! Silence is perfect you can hear your suspension and geometry shift and change. You can hear when you've got traction. So many benefits you aren't thinking of until you ride an electric bike for a good long while? I'm from your era so I get it. I love this new 2 stroke revival the world is seeing! But when people are stuck at home. They can't go anywhere during lock down let alone ride 3 fkn hours just to ride bikes so they don't annoy non bike riders! It's crazy but it's a reality that my friends are facing! They are all chipping in to buy a property out in the sticks for hundreds of thousands of dollars just to solve the problem haha. I see this as the ultimate. They are not at all intimidating to anyone. In fact you get old people inquisitive and asking about them? Ask people if you can ride on their land? Give them a ride and probably make an instant riding buddy and before long a silent army having lots of fun and nobody knows or cares? I love a 2 stroke but a card in the spokes C'mon that's silly
It would be funny if everyone was on ebikes so all the riders could hear each other in-helmet commentary or talk shit to each other on the corners like, “holy shit we are all going to die!” As you dive into the corner lol
They could here them crowds a little more Personable in arena's I guess they hear them but u might make it out more clear when in Nationals or something lol
I couldn't help noticing what a great track that is, how skilled the rider was, and the breadth of the usable power band, on that nimble electric bike. Very cool.
When these catch on it's going to really open up the possibility of more tracks in more populated areas. Years ago we were trying to open up an indoor track and noise was by far the biggest hurdle.
No they won't in terms of more bush trails.. They'll say the quiet doesn't alert the impending bike around the corner about to hit unsuspecting walker or bike rider. At least the petrol bike sound alerts people.
That was incredible riding! The acceleration of an electric motor is phenomenal. I’m thinking not having to shift or worry about being in the right gear has to be a big advantage. Thanks for sharing 👍
I’d imagine it’d be both an advantage and a disadvantage. Racers memorize corner speed thru gear and rpm/sound. I’d also be interested in how severe the motor braking is, and if their is a clutch.
@Captain Beano what makes a gas engine like a barbecue? Are riders steaks that should be cooked on petrol? 😂 I don't think it takes out the natural flavour of riding.
This looked really sweet!!! I am 64. I started on honda elsinores. In my wildest dreams i never could have imagined this! It is sweet to see the power to weight ratio especially. It appears to corner and brake very well as well as jumping fine. Terrific riding, great racing dude, you smoked them!. Amazing, truly amazing!
UNBELIEVABLE DUDE, I think you nailed a few laps that literally could not be faster. You must have destroyed the best lap time. Incredible commitment my bro 😎
Watching this gave me the chills! The sound of electric isn't as satisfying as gas but that was a hell of a race! You're a damn good rider! Very inspiring! Thanks for sharing this POV clip with us!
They are also extremely confusing without engine noise, it's easy to end up flying off the track when taking a corner. Your sense of speed is way different without that engine sound.
O som é introduzido pra dar uma sensação de potência, pra saber o comportamento do motor .mas o motor mesmo não faz barulho algum e a maioria das bikes elétricas não faz nenhum barulho
That sir, was smooth and competent riding. Love the sound of the bike. Love the video quality. I found myself lifting my ass out of the seat when you were jumping. It sure looked like you were getting faster, then a LOT faster. Would have liked to see your bike and the field prior to the start. Well done
Silence motorcross is going to open up so many possibilities for the sport it insane. MX tracks could be straight up in cities and people would have no idea. Can’t wait.
If you believe this you are the king of tardation XD they get mad at kids on electric bikes in parks. Ec can die again. The sooner they die the better off the planet will be
Yeah i can barley hear them in the background. Next we have to tap aetheric ZPE radiant energy with a mini Depalma homopolar N-machine motor generator and let the fun begin. A carbon fiber wound winding synchronous axial motor making about 300 HP or so.
There you go an electric 2 stroke. ethanol and castor 927 maxima bean 2t in this new 2 stroke mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0058689.pdf
The sound of 30 two strokes beats the BRAAAP. Wouldn’t it be ironic if electric bikes spelled the end of thumpers in racing like thumpers did to two strokes?
Loud dirt bikes are why so many hate them. This brings riding around buyouts and power easements to a whole new level. They can't bitch about the noise anymore.
@@smartass6071 gotcha I was really curious cause I was thinking of a purchase or something of that kinda thing. Still that does pose a good problem way to many stories of cherries n berries due to some asshole on the phone complaining
4 strokes suck even in cars/trucks, not to mention all these boring ugly outboards today. cummins make a 2 stroke now mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0058689.pdf
Will there be an electric charging station in the middle of the Dezert or forest when that thing runs out of power? How do you walk back or get the bike out if you survive the walk out? Thats awesome that some guy can ride as fast or faster than the other bikes on a closed course. Who are the Riders? Are they Equally Experienced? Riding on a closed course, right by where you parked your vehicles to bring the bikes is wayyyyy different than riding 50-100 mile round trip back to the truck. Great Track bike and stay close to the truck bike though. Definitely Quick and Fast.
Very awesome riding, cool bike and technology. I'll be sticking to my ancient '79 YZ400 2 stroker and staying out of the way though at this age. Great video!
Id be very curious about the torque/power ratings on that electric bike vs the combustion engine ones. Also how long can one run on a tank or fuel vs this one on its battery charge. Looks like a ripper. Good job!
Battery comes out.. as many battery’s as you have. Pretty sure if racing they’d have 10+ battery’s. They only about about a hour or less to charge. Look up surron it’s literally this but street legal lol as I’m %1000 whatever motor / battery combo he’s running wouldn’t be street legal XD
Electric bikes would be cool but the battery only lets you have fun for about an hour, maybe more if you mod it and you’re good at that shit. Also there’s no way you can charge it up in an hour that would take all night
This bike produces 50hp and 42ftlb of torque at the rear wheel. Battery range depends on many factors like how fast of a rider is on the bike, the type of riding, the dirt condition, etc. In this video i did a 18min+1 lap starting with a full charge and you can see i had about 25% left when i finished. On slower, tighter tracks i can ride longer. This range is plenty for most people as after 20 minutes of pushing hard, most riders are physically tired anyway. Recharging from 25%-100% takes about 75min. Its really not that bad at all. By the time the bike is recharged, im rested and ready to ride another hard moto.
Looks so fun. Must be like playing a video game irl. The amount of speed and power that thing has is unreal. Easily flowing through jumps and stuff....
What a spectacular race! I don't have any electric motorcycles. Though I do have a local commuting E-scooter with a 5600 watt dual wheel hub motor system and I've generally been very impressed with the torque on these motors. It's almost absurd how efficient they are. Mine goes fast enough that I essentially ride it like a motor bike. Seeing as how it's kinda risky to stand on it when it's at full speed. But taking it off road has been a breeze. It's a shame that harley killed the Alta. They had so much potential.
I wonder a couple things about these electric bikes. 1: how does the lipo4 battery hold up long term to the heavy bumps it constantly ensures. 2: lipo4 batteries do not work or charge well and can even break if used in temps above 95 - 100 degrees F or below 35 ish degrees F. 3: what is the charge time for these things, would I need to buy 10 to ride for 8 hours in a day, or would I only need to buy 2-3? 4: can I safely ride through mud and water without worrying about shock or killing my batteries/motor? Getting stranded 20 miles from my car could be a dangerous situation. 5: what are the cost for parts like a new motor, and what is the availability of these parts? If my bike breaks at the track, can I go to the local store and get a replacement, or is my trip finished? - all points need to be addressed before I would ever consider buying electric bike over a gas bike..
I've always been a 2 stroke kinda guy, I've gone to the dark side and gone electric, I'd never go back, next to no maintenance, light, powerful and when we hit the green lanes there's no pissing people off with the noise, it's the future for sure, could do so much for the sport with the advantages of makeing it easier to open up tracks
Also how well would it do in the 2.5 hour harescramble races? They are around 60 miles also. One more thing, we also ride on days as cold as 8 degrees F, how well do the batteries work at 8? I can't even get the starter battery to work at that temperature.
Regen wouldn't work much at all. The rear brake is hardly used except for small adjustments and locking the rear to either adjust angle in the air or to slam the door shut on someone in a corner. Braking on a motorcycle is done 90% front. The rear has no real braking ability
Man that thing rips nice riding dude, bike seems to perform very well although I'm a four stroke guy I don't do MX but that looks so much fun. And a big plus for opening up Mx tracks in more populated areas with bikes as quiet as that. 👍
I’ve wondered about the battery life on these Alta’s as well. Considering we just watch a nearly 20 minute moto I’d say it’s pretty good. Pro Mx Outdoor series does 30 minutes plus 2 laps so I’m sure they’d get at least 1 moto in before having to recharge.
I think what we're all going to miss is the sound ! You can't deny the speed of electric. Damn things would probably shoot out from underneath a guy if you ain't careful.
I've never understood enjoying the sound of exhaust. Not knocking it exactly, just don't get it. You show me a vehicle that outperforms the others while making way less noise, that's when I get impressed.
Idk,I've spent many hrs at the track smelling exhaust and listening to the roar. Don't get me wrong, it's nice at first and all part of the fun, but the endless nights of migraine headaches At the track waiting for the races to end, I will not miss.
Battery power on a dirt bike makes so much sense. You can go crazy in the woods without pissing off your neighbors. But battery power on road motorcycle is inferior to ICE. For long range, multi day trips ICE obliterates battery.
First, great riding! Next, WOW that thing is fast... I can only imagine how different it must feel being that light and that powerful. And lastly, darn good video. Thanks.
You're a pro rider, aren't ya! Great vid, that thing rips. I was expecting it to go into limp mode at some point, but it kept on charging the field. Wow!
Wow, lots of people in the comments sure got their shit in a knot. Remember the YZ400F in 98? How fucking loud it was? How many riding areas got shut down due to noise? Can we not just marvel at the possibilities of new riding areas opened up to a virtually silent moto weapon like this one? A motocross race with E bikes could be held next to a tree-hugging, pony riding, mushroom picking hippie commune / spiritual retreat during their meditation session salad buffet and noone would even know. Aside from the odd bright plastic moto spode flying through the air in the background. I think its cool.
I can't wait till energy storage improves to the point of not having to worry about how long you can ride for. I need one of these I'm tired of fixing engines haha
@@catfish_lude actually I have . I have a few electric bikes . I've been riding and racing since 7 years old and have never even owned a 4 Stroke cross. My main ride is a KTM 250 excw . Electric, when batteries are better , will be the best change for many , ever.
Took one for a rent last summer and went into a mountain trip on a regular asphalt road. It was absolutely insane how QUICK these things are accelerating, it was my first time and couple of times i legit thought i'm going to smash myself into a barrier during a turn, but as i got used to the thing - it was just something.
@@kennyknackers6084 these days im like 188lbs. Been slacking. Just starting to get back into shape again and aiming for 175lbs. Jk. The bike is 258lbs.
@@rattyratstuff7125 Who needs or wants spectators? I already have several EVs and they are lightyears beyond kids toys. One of my bikes has a 52 Ducati motor and Electric Hubs. It only goes 52 but I beat all freeway traffic within 50 miles because the bike path goes under all the roads now and I don't stop for stupid stop signs or lights and it gets 135 MPG. I've got a clue for you, within 18 months neither Gas, Hydrogen or Electric vehicles will be going anywhere.....Mark My words and when you see that flash thats brighter than the sun, remember me. peace Sizzlean
@@sizzlean9459 ok so ill counter that tardation....... you know the sun? How it emitts plasma and radiation? What happens when the sun coughs? Or god forbid farts? Ill tell you. It wipes out all electronics. One of the most constant and common(to hit earth) atmospheric events in our solar system that we currently know of. 1 fucked the interweb in 2008(messed with sat.) And then the stock market promptly crashed. Btw it was a teeny tiny one that barely even reggistered till after it hit. Thats a theory tho. I destroyed a ktm freeride at hangtown classic amateur day on a 2005 450R. Hard pass
@Wyatt Poole they are junk not worth the shit there made of.wilcock lmao you really think that bs bothers me dude.you have a better chance of hell freezing then you or the name calling will ever get to me lmao
@@bwhaskell lmao go way longer on a tank of gas then that pile of junk will go 😅.then take me only 2 minutes to fill back up and dont have to wait to charge haha
@Niklaus Crowley If you have the budget for these bikes. The problem comes when you cant afford a new one and the second hand values are regulated by the cost of a new battery, nearly half the cost of a new bike! As the cost comes down, they may be more attractive. Hydrogen cell has yet to be tested....
Being that this motor is pulling its hardest the lower it is revving, you should be able to leave the corners earlier and turn under anyone. Looks like a blast👍
I remind to those who don’t understand. Some people love the noise and the added element it brings to the experience. As for racing, this is local level where the rider almost matters more than the bike. At the pro level these Alta bikes can’t compete, especially now that they went out of business.
Is it ok to cut in? seemed like the other bike left you good room in the corner while you just aimed for the front wheel at 1:14 I don't follow motocross.
Electric dirt bike has come a long way ... I can remember when it only beat the gas powered dirt bikes slightly but still lost in the long run. Now it's a whole new animal .
I used to ride Husky automatic transmission bikes back in the day, and in enduros and difficult off road riding in the Pacific Northwest, they were unbelievably fast. Only problem was the constant maintenance that had to be done to tranny and clutch springs. I’m really surprised no one took the concept to the next level back in two stroke kingdom days!
Anyone know how long the charge would last on this bike? I understand it all depends on how much you get on it but a ballpark number. The torque seems amazing.
Depends on the type of riding I'm doing, but typically when i'm doing fast practice motos the bike will last about 25-30 minutes on a full charge, right about the time where I'm tired. I have a second Alta but its a dual sport. I've gone almost 2 hours on a single charge on that bike doing tight single track/trail riding. So it depends.
@@wrx77It's what they like. Stop with the dinosaur shit. Your magic technology isn't quite as pure as you feel. China still mining those nasty heavy metals to make your batteries.
Oh wow! This bike even clears most of the landings too! I dont know if i want a 250 or a 450 but it seems like this bike is 250 and 450 in one bike with 4 maps
That thing is incredibly quick! Sounds like crap though, that being said it’s pretty awesome to eliminate some of the noise pollution - it’s a hard pill to swallow though lol
Man it’s a hard 💊 to swallow “pause” I feel like it’s gonna be the end to a long lived legacy of two and 4 stroke sound 🙏🏾that Mfka quick I think I’m going to get one once they come out with a improved 2 or 3rd gen
The biggest advantage over the 4 strokes it's a less stressful riding, you can see that at the beginning they overtake each other multiple times but then the fatigue takes over
Wow. The bike is so much lighter and nimbler on the MX track. Great rider too. E-bikes have lifted the the bar. Would like to see him on a super cross track. Might not do as well but IMO he'd be competitive.
Love the idea of these. It’ll be interesting how race organizers set up classes by kWh or xxx. It doesn’t make sense to try to have ebikes racing against “similar” sized 2 or 4 strokes.
The fact that the electric bike outran the four-stroke bike under power is not a product of skill but a product of the electric motor having more torque than the four-stroke. The benefit here is the off the line torque that is superior to the four stroke and the lack of shifting that led to the win.
Totally awesome e bike riding, shire runs "very snappy fast" love it, low noise no pollution, low maintenance, light weight. Is this an Alta bike? You ride very well!
I've been making a living as a mechanic since 82 and this is very cool but I may have to put cards in the spokes to make noise, Lol.
Or a beer can in between the swingarm arm and tire😂
Haha fuck yeah that brang back some
Memories 😂
Epic😂
No way! Silence is perfect you can hear your suspension and geometry shift and change. You can hear when you've got traction. So many benefits you aren't thinking of until you ride an electric bike for a good long while?
I'm from your era so I get it. I love this new 2 stroke revival the world is seeing!
But when people are stuck at home. They can't go anywhere during lock down let alone ride 3 fkn hours just to ride bikes so they don't annoy non bike riders! It's crazy but it's a reality that my friends are facing!
They are all chipping in to buy a property out in the sticks for hundreds of thousands of dollars just to solve the problem haha.
I see this as the ultimate. They are not at all intimidating to anyone. In fact you get old people inquisitive and asking about them?
Ask people if you can ride on their land? Give them a ride and probably make an instant riding buddy and before long a silent army having lots of fun and nobody knows or cares?
I love a 2 stroke but a card in the spokes C'mon that's silly
@@Jarmezrocks
It's a joke because when we were kids in the early 70's kid's did that with their bicycles.
Sounds like a very angry RC car.
It seriously does. I have a traxxas xo-1 that cranks about 90ish and it sounds just like this when it comes by lmfao
And also like a horse sometimes
@@zizhdizzabagus456 like an angry horse?
So true lol
@@danmanthe9335 indeed
It would be funny if everyone was on ebikes so all the riders could hear each other in-helmet commentary or talk shit to each other on the corners like, “holy shit we are all going to die!” As you dive into the corner lol
With electric gokarts, one of my drivers for the team was overtaken once, because his rival told him, he had poop on his head.
Hahahahahaha
Now we have bikesgoteques loud ass music, people dancing in the middle of the tack,cheerleaders and such
I think their is a future now in electric wheel chair racing
They could here them crowds a little more Personable in arena's I guess they hear them but u might make it out more clear when in Nationals or something lol
I couldn't help noticing what a great track that is, how skilled the rider was, and the breadth of the usable power band, on that nimble electric bike. Very cool.
Cahuilla MX is one of the best tracks in the country.
This is the same track I think BakerXderek took his ZX6 on lmao
I couldn’t help but watch the video
600+ lb/ft torque… Instantly 👍🏼😎👍🏼🏆🥇
It'll sound like those idiots behind you at a concert or sporting event who whistle with their fingers super loud right near you.
When these catch on it's going to really open up the possibility of more tracks in more populated areas. Years ago we were trying to open up an indoor track and noise was by far the biggest hurdle.
Exactly
No they won't in terms of more bush trails.. They'll say the quiet doesn't alert the impending bike around the corner about to hit unsuspecting walker or bike rider. At least the petrol bike sound alerts people.
Hopefully so. They will complain about dust, or erosion, or some other crazy issue.
@@NyphronRising wear a bell.
Just hook up some tunes 📢🎶🎶
That was incredible riding! The acceleration of an electric motor is phenomenal. I’m thinking not having to shift or worry about being in the right gear has to be a big advantage. Thanks for sharing 👍
Sensitivity of throttle response is amazing
I’d imagine it’d be both an advantage and a disadvantage. Racers memorize corner speed thru gear and rpm/sound. I’d also be interested in how severe the motor braking is, and if their is a clutch.
Perfect for people like me who aren’t that interested in dirt bikes, but still like bikes in general
@Captain Beano what makes a gas engine like a barbecue? Are riders steaks that should be cooked on petrol? 😂
I don't think it takes out the natural flavour of riding.
Lol. Go and try riding a electric dirtbike like this guy. All about the talent and skill.
too be fair this guy is clearly a better rider than the rest in this race lol
Touche
Touché *
4 sure. I don’t know who he thinks he’s fooling.
@@Mike-hi3sc hard to tell since you don't see them
@@Anax100 that’s why it’s easy to see.
This looked really sweet!!! I am 64. I started on honda elsinores. In my wildest dreams i never could have imagined this! It is sweet to see the power to weight ratio especially. It appears to corner and brake very well as well as jumping fine. Terrific riding, great racing dude, you smoked them!. Amazing, truly amazing!
smoked?
Dude I’m 62 and need one of these torque monsters👍
That acceleration (instant torque) is unmatched. Had a seasoned dirt biker a bit scared.
Sounds like a VHS tape rewinding
Michael Martinez 😂👍👍
What’s that?
@@bwimpenn I don't know. I stole this comment
The fastest VHS rewinder you'll ever ride.
Sounds like a pissed off cat
I love the throttle blip mid jump, the torque sets it level so nicely
UNBELIEVABLE DUDE, I think you nailed a few laps that literally could not be faster. You must have destroyed the best lap time. Incredible commitment my bro 😎
Roger
@@egderegor Roger roger
Watching this gave me the chills! The sound of electric isn't as satisfying as gas but that was a hell of a race! You're a damn good rider! Very inspiring! Thanks for sharing this POV clip with us!
They are also extremely confusing without engine noise, it's easy to end up flying off the track when taking a corner. Your sense of speed is way different without that engine sound.
It sounds like a nice rc car
O som é introduzido pra dar uma sensação de potência, pra saber o comportamento do motor .mas o motor mesmo não faz barulho algum e a maioria das bikes elétricas não faz nenhum barulho
I would actually like to see a special all electric dirt bike division just to really see how they all work out on a weekend race day👍
It would be cool if we could
Modify the sound since its electric
That sir, was smooth and competent riding. Love the sound of the bike. Love the video quality. I found myself lifting my ass out of the seat when you were jumping. It sure looked like you were getting faster, then a LOT faster. Would have liked to see your bike and the field prior to the start. Well done
Or in a year see which one is still functional
You like the sound of the bike? Hahahaha what a goose
Love the sound of the bike? Then your ears are gonna have an orgasm if you ever hear an rc car.
*mf really said he loves the sound* 💀💀💀
The sound sucks. Sounds like a cordless drill.
Silence motorcross is going to open up so many possibilities for the sport it insane. MX tracks could be straight up in cities and people would have no idea. Can’t wait.
You could talk whilst racing😂🤙
Mountain riding.
Hope it fails like other "woke noise"..
If you believe this you are the king of tardation XD they get mad at kids on electric bikes in parks. Ec can die again. The sooner they die the better off the planet will be
Yes I'm sure residents would be fine with the sound of 20 band saws going off.
Wow bro, I wish I had the confidence and skill that you have. Awesome riding btw!
Anyone else notice that race going on in the background while this guy was just ripping around 😂😂
Yeah i can barley hear them in the background. Next we have to tap aetheric ZPE radiant energy with a mini Depalma homopolar N-machine motor generator and let the fun begin. A carbon fiber wound winding synchronous axial motor making about 300 HP or so.
I would need to add a speaker of a 2 stroke and a smoke generator of bean oil.
Beńol
Would be funny
Blendzall The Only 2 stroke oil you should EVER USE
Agreed
There you go an electric 2 stroke. ethanol and castor 927 maxima bean 2t in this new 2 stroke mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0058689.pdf
What electric Dirt bike is that? nice riding on that. what are the benefits of inward turns than wider out ward turns?
@Kini Rog This company have gone out of business.
@@rewind12354 u can still buy used or from dealers that have not sold out
Inside of a turn is less distance traveled hence faster through the turn.
@@kogasoldier9379 right but u can carry more speed in the outer this varies alot track conditions bike setup rider preference all have a role
@@dwightsparkes7827 well said
very cool but nothing will beat the sound and feel of the BRAAAP
The sound of 30 two strokes beats the BRAAAP. Wouldn’t it be ironic if electric bikes spelled the end of thumpers in racing like thumpers did to two strokes?
Loud dirt bikes are why so many hate them. This brings riding around buyouts and power easements to a whole new level. They can't bitch about the noise anymore.
Then it will be the dust! FFS they will come up with anything, they’ll probably say cancer who knows...
What’s a buyout?
@@ronr8687 typo. I meant bayou
@@smartass6071 gotcha I was really curious cause I was thinking of a purchase or something of that kinda thing. Still that does pose a good problem way to many stories of cherries n berries due to some asshole on the phone complaining
However if they start racing supercross with these its gonna ruin the whole show cuz its gonna sound like an RC car race 😂
That thing is nuts. I bet a lot of the 4 strokes weren't too happy! Nicely done holding on to that thing.
Now they got a taste of what 125cc riders were feeling when 250s were allowed to compete in the same class
@@kevbrand8824 the 4 stroke rules the ama put up were a joke 250 is 250
4 strokes suck even in cars/trucks, not to mention all these boring ugly outboards today. cummins make a 2 stroke now mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0058689.pdf
Okay so the word destroyed is understatement that electric dirt bike is badass hands-down just freaking sick
Will there be an electric charging station in the middle of the Dezert or forest when that thing runs out of power? How do you walk back or get the bike out if you survive the walk out?
Thats awesome that some guy can ride as fast or faster than the other bikes
on a closed course.
Who are the Riders?
Are they Equally Experienced?
Riding on a closed course, right by where you parked your vehicles to bring the bikes is wayyyyy different than riding 50-100 mile round trip back to the truck.
Great Track bike and stay close to the truck bike though.
Definitely Quick and Fast.
Very awesome riding, cool bike and technology. I'll be sticking to my ancient '79 YZ400 2 stroker and staying out of the way though at this age. Great video!
I've got a YZ250F
79 Model !!!! LOL !!
I got married in 79. Still with her today. You just can't beat the motorcycles of that era and you can't beat your wife either. ; )
Id be very curious about the torque/power ratings on that electric bike vs the combustion engine ones. Also how long can one run on a tank or fuel vs this one on its battery charge. Looks like a ripper. Good job!
Battery comes out.. as many battery’s as you have. Pretty sure if racing they’d have 10+ battery’s. They only about about a hour or less to charge.
Look up surron it’s literally this but street legal lol as I’m %1000 whatever motor / battery combo he’s running wouldn’t be street legal XD
Electric bikes would be cool but the battery only lets you have fun for about an hour, maybe more if you mod it and you’re good at that shit. Also there’s no way you can charge it up in an hour that would take all night
This bike produces 50hp and 42ftlb of torque at the rear wheel. Battery range depends on many factors like how fast of a rider is on the bike, the type of riding, the dirt condition, etc. In this video i did a 18min+1 lap starting with a full charge and you can see i had about 25% left when i finished. On slower, tighter tracks i can ride longer. This range is plenty for most people as after 20 minutes of pushing hard, most riders are physically tired anyway. Recharging from 25%-100% takes about 75min. Its really not that bad at all. By the time the bike is recharged, im rested and ready to ride another hard moto.
You could buy a fast charger for swap batteries and have a battery system similar to a power tool.. pop out old and pop in the new.
@@bwhaskell how many volts/amps are you running?
From the 3 + minute mark , dude is just basically riding for fun 😂 this is so cool. I'd love to try an electric bike someday.
I’m sure you will they will probably be the majority of bikes in the next 10 years
Looks so fun. Must be like playing a video game irl. The amount of speed and power that thing has is unreal. Easily flowing through jumps and stuff....
Bet he felt like he was on a RC motorcycle with the noise like this the whole time. This is badass
What a spectacular race! I don't have any electric motorcycles. Though I do have a local commuting E-scooter with a 5600 watt dual wheel hub motor system and I've generally been very impressed with the torque on these motors. It's almost absurd how efficient they are. Mine goes fast enough that I essentially ride it like a motor bike. Seeing as how it's kinda risky to stand on it when it's at full speed. But taking it off road has been a breeze. It's a shame that harley killed the Alta. They had so much potential.
The pull out of the corners is insane! Torque monster. It's got more torque than a 4S and top end like a 2 stroke
And that's the same amount of torque all the way through from 1 km to top speed.
Correct
2 strokes got more torque for the same sized 4 joke stroke, all big ships use 2 stroke diesels
I wonder a couple things about these electric bikes.
1: how does the lipo4 battery hold up long term to the heavy bumps it constantly ensures.
2: lipo4 batteries do not work or charge well and can even break if used in temps above 95 - 100 degrees F or below 35 ish degrees F.
3: what is the charge time for these things, would I need to buy 10 to ride for 8 hours in a day, or would I only need to buy 2-3?
4: can I safely ride through mud and water without worrying about shock or killing my batteries/motor? Getting stranded 20 miles from my car could be a dangerous situation.
5: what are the cost for parts like a new motor, and what is the availability of these parts? If my bike breaks at the track, can I go to the local store and get a replacement, or is my trip finished?
- all points need to be addressed before I would ever consider buying electric bike over a gas bike..
Now, I'd love to see you switch up with the next best rider. You on the 4-stroke and them on the E-bike. That's some amazing riding!
Exactly what I was thinking through out the race.
@Eamm Why not throw a YZ490, CR500 or KX500 in and see how that goes?
I've always been a 2 stroke kinda guy, I've gone to the dark side and gone electric, I'd never go back, next to no maintenance, light, powerful and when we hit the green lanes there's no pissing people off with the noise, it's the future for sure, could do so much for the sport with the advantages of makeing it easier to open up tracks
How would it do on our 68 mile woods loop? We have to fuel up during the ride..
Also how well would it do in the 2.5 hour harescramble races? They are around 60 miles also. One more thing, we also ride on days as cold as 8 degrees F, how well do the batteries work at 8? I can't even get the starter battery to work at that temperature.
We did a 60 mile hair Scrabble in the snow last week, did 1 battery swap, it was around 2 degrees
@@case150284 why didn't you have a helmet camera. You can probably get a bunch of views.
Its the "Future" what do you want to live in a world like I robot not in mylifetime.Buddy
When you're finishing a race for your little sibling after all the A.I. racers have finished:
Hahaha!!!!
Correct me if I'm wrong but can I still hear the 4 stroke just behind it? Woulds thought the the ebike should be miles ahead.
No shifting helps alot!! Pulls constant
When you're comparing bikes with a small engine.
Getting worn out just watching you ride, you're a beast 💪
With regenerative braking, I can see this bike running longer with the constant braking. Would love to try this bike. Nice 👍 vid.
Regen wouldn't work much at all. The rear brake is hardly used except for small adjustments and locking the rear to either adjust angle in the air or to slam the door shut on someone in a corner. Braking on a motorcycle is done 90% front. The rear has no real braking ability
So very very cool! I would go to watch these bikes race.
Man that thing rips nice riding dude, bike seems to perform very well although I'm a four stroke guy I don't do MX but that looks so much fun. And a big plus for opening up Mx tracks in more populated areas with bikes as quiet as that. 👍
Man, that acceleration looks horrifying 😵💫👍
The sound of that thing gives me goosebumps like nails on chalk board kinda feeling
just don't feed it after midnight
This is awesome. I’ve been in electric vehicles before and the acceleration is unbelievable
I wonder how long the battery lasts at full throttle during a pro moto
I’ve wondered about the battery life on these Alta’s as well. Considering we just watch a nearly 20 minute moto I’d say it’s pretty good. Pro Mx Outdoor series does 30 minutes plus 2 laps so I’m sure they’d get at least 1 moto in before having to recharge.
@@RobertJones-ix2hu I’m pretty sure the fastest map (map 4) only lasts about 20 mins while map 3 lasts around an hour.
@@RayNewton754 that's the problem!
@@RayNewton754 my races last over 2 hours
@@Bryan-Hensley Yes so do mine
I think what we're all going to miss is the sound ! You can't deny the speed of electric. Damn things would probably shoot out from underneath a guy if you ain't careful.
Yup it happened first day out on my surron
Wouldn't miss it at all
I've never understood enjoying the sound of exhaust. Not knocking it exactly, just don't get it. You show me a vehicle that outperforms the others while making way less noise, that's when I get impressed.
@@tobyvision Exactly!, I'll never understand people that likes NOISE! Is beyond my comprehension. . . I hate noise
Idk,I've spent many hrs at the track smelling exhaust and listening to the roar. Don't get me wrong, it's nice at first and all part of the fun, but the endless nights of migraine headaches At the track waiting for the races to end, I will not miss.
Battery power on a dirt bike makes so much sense. You can go crazy in the woods without pissing off your neighbors. But battery power on road motorcycle is inferior to ICE. For long range, multi day trips ICE obliterates battery.
First, great riding! Next, WOW that thing is fast... I can only imagine how different it must feel being that light and that powerful. And lastly, darn good video. Thanks.
You're a pro rider, aren't ya! Great vid, that thing rips. I was expecting it to go into limp mode at some point, but it kept on charging the field. Wow!
This "toy" cant RIP around
this is sad and 2 stroke will never be missed because shel never die
only batteries die
@@catfish_lude well they can “die” but not in the way a battery dies,
Wow, lots of people in the comments sure got their shit in a knot. Remember the YZ400F in 98? How fucking loud it was? How many riding areas got shut down due to noise? Can we not just marvel at the possibilities of new riding areas opened up to a virtually silent moto weapon like this one? A motocross race with E bikes could be held next to a tree-hugging, pony riding, mushroom picking hippie commune / spiritual retreat during their meditation session salad buffet and noone would even know. Aside from the odd bright plastic moto spode flying through the air in the background. I think its cool.
I can't wait till energy storage improves to the point of not having to worry about how long you can ride for. I need one of these I'm tired of fixing engines haha
Don't worry you'll be fixing batteries and stators.
@@ADOTlied ok. Much easier than a gas engine so that's cool haha. Stators also break on regular engines .
SHUTUP
you're never tired of fixing engines
Electric can suc my balz
@@catfish_lude actually I have . I have a few electric bikes . I've been riding and racing since 7 years old and have never even owned a 4 Stroke cross. My main ride is a KTM 250 excw . Electric, when batteries are better , will be the best change for many , ever.
Yep less maintenance, but i stick to internal combustion engines cause it's fun to ride with
Took one for a rent last summer and went into a mountain trip on a regular asphalt road. It was absolutely insane how QUICK these things are accelerating, it was my first time and couple of times i legit thought i'm going to smash myself into a barrier during a turn, but as i got used to the thing - it was just something.
You couldn't fall in love with that electric motor sound in a hurry .
I enjoy it :)
@@bwhaskell what’s the weight like?
It would be akin to falling in love with the sound of a mosquito
@@kennyknackers6084 these days im like 188lbs. Been slacking. Just starting to get back into shape again and aiming for 175lbs.
Jk. The bike is 258lbs.
Times are changing that's for sure. I will personally miss the smells and sounds associated with motorsport today.
Motorsports to EV Sports
Try not to forget electric cars came way before gas engines
Ev will never take off. Why electric races have no spectators. Noone gives a fuck about an adult driving a kids toy
@@rattyratstuff7125 Who needs or wants spectators? I already have several EVs and they are lightyears beyond kids toys. One of my bikes has a 52 Ducati motor and Electric Hubs. It only goes 52 but I beat all freeway traffic within 50 miles because the bike path goes under all the roads now and I don't stop for stupid stop signs or lights and it gets 135 MPG. I've got a clue for you, within 18 months neither Gas, Hydrogen or Electric vehicles will be going anywhere.....Mark My words and when you see that flash thats brighter than the sun, remember me.
peace
Sizzlean
@@sizzlean9459 ok so ill counter that tardation....... you know the sun? How it emitts plasma and radiation? What happens when the sun coughs? Or god forbid farts? Ill tell you. It wipes out all electronics. One of the most constant and common(to hit earth) atmospheric events in our solar system that we currently know of.
1 fucked the interweb in 2008(messed with sat.) And then the stock market promptly crashed. Btw it was a teeny tiny one that barely even reggistered till after it hit.
Thats a theory tho.
I destroyed a ktm freeride at hangtown classic amateur day on a 2005 450R.
Hard pass
instant power instant speed just like rc remote toys very speedy
Incredible! How long does the battery last on that machine?
the dislikes are the people you passed
Till it runs out of power and is sitting he can keep the junk
@@jerrywilcox9890 do you regularly run out of gas on your gas dirtbike?
@Wyatt Poole they are junk not worth the shit there made of.wilcock lmao you really think that bs bothers me dude.you have a better chance of hell freezing then you or the name calling will ever get to me lmao
@@bwhaskell lmao go way longer on a tank of gas then that pile of junk will go 😅.then take me only 2 minutes to fill back up and dont have to wait to charge haha
@@jerrywilcox9890 You need to learn how to type better, buddy.
Lets hope the future takes a long time to arrive.
@Niklaus Crowley If you have the budget for these bikes. The problem comes when you cant afford a new one and the second hand values are regulated by the cost of a new battery, nearly half the cost of a new bike! As the cost comes down, they may be more attractive. Hydrogen cell has yet to be tested....
Being that this motor is pulling its hardest the lower it is revving, you should be able to leave the corners earlier and turn under anyone. Looks like a blast👍
When you close your eyes and listening to that electric bike. It’s sounds like a mosquito that’s on attack mode 😂😂.
Actually louder than I thought it would be! It's definitely not noiseless...
I remind to those who needs "noise" that the goal of a race is to arrive in first place...
I have a 1985 cr125 bored .50 over I believe I can bust Mr. Electricmans ass
I remind to those who don’t understand. Some people love the noise and the added element it brings to the experience. As for racing, this is local level where the rider almost matters more than the bike. At the pro level these Alta bikes can’t compete, especially now that they went out of business.
The goal of a UA-cam video is to watch the video. But I bet you still had the sound on...
Ya but the sound of a beefy 4 stroke, or an angry 2 stroke is oh so satisfying
@@kennethhunt248 alright Karen 😆
That's crazy never thought this would happen in my lifetime. That electric dirt bike sounds like electric wires sizzling like a snare.
Is it ok to cut in? seemed like the other bike left you good room in the corner while you just aimed for the front wheel at 1:14 I don't follow motocross.
We've finally made RC cars big enough to ride!
Still will never beat the sound of a 2 Stroke! That’s music to my ears
Lol I hear the sound of 4 stroke fading away😅
I don't know how good the bike is but the writer is excellent hats off to you dude
Do you change batteries after each race or do the batteries charge quick enough?
That instant torque out of the turns makes this thing a God
Indeed. I just bought an Ioniq5 AWD and it's got incredible torque as well. Absolutely no wheel spin and pin you in the seat acceleration.
Electric dirt bike has come a long way ... I can remember when it only beat the gas powered dirt bikes slightly but still lost in the long run. Now it's a whole new animal .
Stark Varg e bike, basically an electromagnetic rotary 2 stroke
I used to ride Husky automatic transmission bikes back in the day, and in enduros and difficult off road riding in the Pacific Northwest, they were unbelievably fast. Only problem was the constant maintenance that had to be done to tranny and clutch springs. I’m really surprised no one took the concept to the next level back in two stroke kingdom days!
Anyone know how long the charge would last on this bike? I understand it all depends on how much you get on it but a ballpark number. The torque seems amazing.
Depends on the type of riding I'm doing, but typically when i'm doing fast practice motos the bike will last about 25-30 minutes on a full charge, right about the time where I'm tired. I have a second Alta but its a dual sport. I've gone almost 2 hours on a single charge on that bike doing tight single track/trail riding. So it depends.
@@bwhaskell how much is a spare battery and how long to charge it
It's not the bike, it's the rider. Amazing skills
But the bike isn't holding him back, that's the point.
@Mike Christian bike good, rider good, everyone happy
@Mike Christian his point is the ebike did'nt destroy the 450s he did he would beat these guys on a stock 125
I don't care how fast it is, my great joy of riding includes using the clutch and shifting gears! And listening to the engine!
Spoken like a dinosaur...
@@wrx77It's what they like. Stop with the dinosaur shit. Your magic technology isn't quite as pure as you feel. China still mining those nasty heavy metals to make your batteries.
@@wrx77ok greta thunburg
As long as your ride is no more than 30 minutes I guess you are good.
This is really cool, I’m excited to see how these bikes will hold up in the future, reliability and market wise
My bike is 4 years old and still going strong!
Merhaba çok beğendim performans harika. Marka model nedir acaba?
Comment below you, above me asks about the model and engine of your motorcycle.
Oh wow! This bike even clears most of the landings too! I dont know if i want a 250 or a 450 but it seems like this bike is 250 and 450 in one bike with 4 maps
Forget about desert racing unless there's a power outlet out there.
Quick battery swap. Keep 2 in a back pack and ZOOOOOM
Can charge a battery from a generator whilst you race
Strap some solar panels to your backpack, I've heard there might be sun in the desert...
Are there a lot of tank stations in the desert?
@@cheetah694 ever heard of a jerry can?
That thing is incredibly quick! Sounds like crap though, that being said it’s pretty awesome to eliminate some of the noise pollution - it’s a hard pill to swallow though lol
It's not a bad sound, I personally like the electrifying sound of electrons moving!
You are what’s wrong with the world
Burning gas for sound 😂
More like ziiiip instead of braaap
Man it’s a hard 💊 to swallow “pause”
I feel like it’s gonna be the end to a long lived legacy of two and 4 stroke sound 🙏🏾that Mfka quick I think I’m going to get one once they come out with a improved 2 or 3rd gen
Pretend it’s a 2 stroke
Great riding. That thing is so fast. This looks like the future of MX.
I hope not! Lol. Electric is cool but f that.
nice riding bro!
That instant torque is unplayable! Interesting times
haha the e-bike sounds like a small $5 RC car from woolworth, they can be as fast as they want, i will never plant my ass on that
instant torque. even the electric motors in my 1/5 scale rc are bigger than a pop can and go 75mph, wonder how fast it goes?
I love how you take 2 stroke lines and still destroy the thumpers 😂👍
Insane clown Posse ,I have to try one of these I'm a 2 stroker for life.....
The biggest advantage over the 4 strokes it's a less stressful riding, you can see that at the beginning they overtake each other multiple times but then the fatigue takes over
Now see how it fares against a 2 stroke!!!
@@aaronmiller5012 It has for some time been possible to build an electric motorcycle too high performance for a human to even ride.
Wow. The bike is so much lighter and nimbler on the MX track. Great rider too. E-bikes have lifted the the bar. Would like to see him on a super cross track. Might not do as well but IMO he'd be competitive.
Love the idea of these. It’ll be interesting how race organizers set up classes by kWh or xxx. It doesn’t make sense to try to have ebikes racing against “similar” sized 2 or 4 strokes.
I have to race against 450s locally. Alta MXR is like a 350 overall.
It would be the slowest off road racing ever.
Well, tbh he's just an amazing rider. a really good rider will beat even a 450 on a 125
The the rider skill is what won this race not the e bike , thanks for the video ,
@Mike Christian ill take my 01 cr 250, or 96 thanks 😊
@Mike Christian but why though? Not everyone believes they are going to 'save the planet'.
The fact that the electric bike outran the four-stroke bike under power is not a product of skill but a product of the electric motor having more torque than the four-stroke. The benefit here is the off the line torque that is superior to the four stroke and the lack of shifting that led to the win.
I was thinking with all that torque you might have an advantage on the inside line
He does. But didn’t need to take the inside!
Would have been nice to see the bike and know what brand it is.
Totally awesome e bike riding, shire runs "very snappy fast" love it,
low noise no pollution, low maintenance, light weight.
Is this an Alta bike?
You ride very well!
No charge either, will last two hours on one battery lol
In the 250 class motocross 4 stroke have to use a 450 just to be competitive against a 250 2 stroke!
well yeah cuz 4 strokes need twice the engine to hake the same amount of power as a 2 stroke
have*^
Ya, Piston= Pop can vs Coffee can.
One day it's gonna be like hey watcha doing riding that old gasser bru 🙄
This video could have probably kept Alta in business coincidentally
Just imagine that torque in Supercross!
If AMA Supercross ever switches to electric bikes, I will never go again.
Wish to see Ricky carmichael on a 2 stroke Suzuki rm vs electric 😑
Nothing sounds better than the sound of dirt bikes racing! More so when it rumbles out over the hills for miles.