Not really interested. But thanks , I’ll pass . And pass again & keep on passing as the battery runs lower & lower, And lower ……. The Idea is refreshing to speculate , but the Harsh reality is the technology just isn’t here yet . Maybe some day ….
Really like the video, glad to see motorcycle conversion kits that could salvage a few old but trues a new life. I have been threatening to do an Electric mini bike and have something, kinda sorts mini bike with a 1000 watt direct drive system. that ride looked fun, I could see the difference from the Suron videos I have seen. they are much light and are springing around alot, and the way your ride dug it and owned the trail, real sure footed. Can't wait for marketing of the system, But will it only be for one type of bike or more universal for different makes and models?
I’m a huge noise guy for a bike! But this is incredible for those days you wanna rip or hit a field where nobody is gonna call the police on you. Especially where I am
That battery design is pretty much exactly what I thought of as a industry standard so you could have charge stations at petrol stations that have charged batteries ready to go & you just swap them over. It would even be quicker than refueling.
The thing that appeals to me so much is that we can have fun without the noise that draws attention, then losing the ability to go to a particular place, that instant torque must be nice.
Yoo it's awesome to see how far electric enduro bikes are getting! I live in the Netherlands where you can't really do much offroad without bothering someone. If I had a bike like that I could just rip it offroad and no one would bmeven be aware of me riding.
people would still report you - dont be fooled, if they see you they will still grass you up - it isnt about noise. its about shitheads who hate us for what we do
These conversions are so sick. Love the idea of doing this in general, as all the power train type stuff can be bought for multiple different things. Something a lot of people can do on their own, unlike gas bikes, that require a little more mechanical knowledge.
I doubt this conversion is all that easy and you will need some mechanical know how. Most people who ride dirtbikes end up learning how to repair them on a basic level and doesn't take much to learn the rest of it.
@@chadcampbell1586 84V 4KW Samsung battery for $3295.00 and the kit is $7000.00 battery not included in the kit, sold separately... Scum bag... The seller not you.
Being able to ride anywhere seems like a big plus. I do look forward to seeing the bugs worked out. I also would like to see tests on a MX and SX track. Thanks for the video. PS: If somebody blows their ICE motor, this might be a viable alternative, when the price goes down.
@@UncleSarkis I've never smoked but that sounds like a good analogy. Of course, I didn't mean it literally. Though, a good example, even if you own some land, but have nearby neighbors, they can complain about the loud sounds from an ICE dirt bikes and prevent you from riding on your private land (this happened to my brother). Also, some off-road vehicle parks will not let you ride a closed course (race) ICE bike on them, etc. In last weekend's SX race, many people left before the main events because of the build-up of gas fumes in the stadium. It was making hard for some to breath and causing their eyes to hurt.
@@jedielder7970 I never smoked either, but soon people who build or buy new homes built near MX tracks will complain about the dust, the environmentalist will complain that quiet electric bikes don't give certain animals enough time to react and get out of the way, and they're still disrupting the land and dirt, etc. etc. Electric bikes definitely seem like a neat idea, but I can't give up the feeling of an MX ICE bike.
You still have to ride in designated areas. If you decide to ride in illegal spots and someone witnesses you, the cops will get called. EV doesn't change that fact. The price most likely won't be going down for a long time as they have to recoup their costs which are probably fairly high right now.
That's awesome, and I believe these conversion kits will take over in the Ebike world..but..not at that price point. That's over $10k without the doner bike. If you want a second battery, add $3500. I'll be waiting for the cost of some of these parts to come down. I understand there is a lot of R&R but that doesn't make it any more affordable.
Even though I have no desire to own an electric dirt bike, this is the best idea I’ve seen yet. The other electric bikes are just not proven moto bikes
Thanks, We designed the bike for Races longer than one battery will last. Shawn Clark recently won a race, on the new XE4, against all Ice bikes with fastest swap of eight seconds.
I watched you guys at the FTR races. I remember being at the DDR HS and was in the pits watching you guys swapped the battery out . Great job! Croom looked good!
First things I wonder about: how long can you ride on a charge, how long does it take to charge the battery, how much does the bike weigh, power wise does it compare to a 250cc 4 stroke or 300cc, etc. Wish that summary was in the video, like at the beginning or end?
@@nickolaivuicich4105 perhaps. For ebikes/scooters pushing 1500 watts, full power is around half of eco range. For something like this, probably around a quarter.
wow i gotta get me one of these,,i got some kind of ear issues going on and riding 2 stroke gas motors is just not an option for me anymore but these are so quiet i'll be able to enjoy dirt bike riding again without the troublesome noise..im so excited for the future of electric dirt bikes
Looks awesome. Unfortunately, the only conversion I'm really focused on is how many working Yamaha bikes I could buy for the equivalent cost of one Yamaha and $11K kit with quick swap battery, charger, programmer and seat. I'm thinking at least 4 used Yamahas in excellent condition at $3K each.
This has literally (not an expression) been a dream of mine since the mid 80s. As a kid who grew-up on horse farms in awesome offroad country, I rode trails for years and years on horses, ski-doos and of course, dirtbikes. I always thought it would be awesome to be as quiet as on a horse on a smooth, tight bike that makes no squeaks, rattles etc.... during moderate-sporty trail riding. One of these with belt drive would be even quieter (but I don't know about a belt off-road). The reason? Ever ride a horse on a peaceful, long hack on a quiet trail and a pack of two-strokes comes screaming-up to you?
The XEMX1 is the most raceable E-Moto in the off-road world. You may have seen all the hype for the Stark Varg but have you ever seen one?, or has it ever finished a race? The XEMX1 has. It is currently winning in Florida Hare Scrambles and was 39th OA out of 595 Amateur riders on Sat. TKO Tennessee Knock Out Hard Enduro and the only E-Moto to finish that race. Its is Kinda easy to put an electric motor in a bike frame and have it go down the road. It not easy to make it raceable against the current well refined generation of off-road ICE bikes. XEMX is developing not only a great race bike but a great Electric race bike. Not because of global needs but because there are some new capabilities that a E-Moto can do that an ICE can’t. The current push on Electric vehicles is also driving more battery and programmers development that XEMX is taking advantage of. It may not be for everyone but it is interesting to see how far the development can go.
Great job on the video folks! Thanks for making it. At that price point, I shouldn't have to "learn how to ride it". I hope they solve the cut-off problem and drop that price, because I love how electric conversion kits can breathe new life into run down old chassis.
As far as the technical bugs which will no doubtably be resolved, this looks awesome! That said it also looks like you’ll be spending $11,000-ish on top of the donor bike. I suppose for me I’d probably go for KTM‘s offering.
I've been riding and racing Yamahas before they had 'YZs"!!!!Both in the dirt and street.(district 38) (Willow spring's) grew up in the Coachella Valley, where you are at sea level, three to five years, zero precipitation. Perfect riding conditions. We all rode 'open class' motorcycles.(over 400cc bikes) My old desert sled was a RD-400, stuffed into a YZ-465 chassis!! Yeah buddy!! I am a two-strokeaholic, and proud of it. This YZ-Wistler sounds like a over-sexed golf cart. But I would imagine, a few playing cards in the spokes might help!!!😆😅😂🤣 The smell of pre-mix in the morning, reminds me of victory ✌️😎👍
The future in cars is electric but man I can't do an electric dirt bike I just can't I need to hear that 4 stroke or 2 stroke sound and smell that exhaust!
Just for the fact you are pretty much stealth i love it. Where i used to live the cops would be called on me for riding in the woods. Not fast or anything bad. Jus crawling pretty much. Hell with this bike you could never even tell i was in the woods. These will take awhile to come around. Once cost comes down then this will be the new norm folks
(2 questions) 1st question: In the beginning of the video, he forward and reverse. Does that mean it has reverse? 2nd question: What's the curb weight?
I’m at the ‘infancy’ stage of exploring buying a frame with valid / clean VIN, and attempting DIY. Obstacles: because eBikes are still New, unclear as to process/possibility of street legal Dual Sport; and, I’m not necessarily electrically inclined (I can Fabricate w/o issue UNTIL anything electrical comes to play). These vids do Inspire ! 🤓
I don't see this ever replacing two or four stoke bikes, especially at the cost of it, but the doors of opportunity that could be opened for riding in those places where you legally can't!
FEELS LIKE A YZ250 SO WHAT DO THEY DO THEY MAKE THIS CRAP I GOT TO GO CLEAN UP I JUST PUKED ALL OVER MYSELF I CAN'T BELIEVE ANYBODY WOULD SUPPORT THIS SHIT
Control setup... Replace the shifter with a Regenerative control so you can "down shift" going down hills, and then "up shift" to have it flowy on corners and fast stuff. Keep the power level as a switch on the bars. Braking setup like a MT bike. I don't think you need a clutch anymore.
If they can keep prices a bit lower than currently projected, I could see this being a pretty cool product. Unfortunately at those prices you can almost get a varg and keep your 250f combustion. Still cool concept
Watching this being ridden in real time, I would have crashed into 4,000 trees. I'd never be able to ride it this fast and see the track accurately. Am here for these powerful fast AC bikes
Probably going to see alot more urban and vacant land in suburbs riding due to these. Might end up with a new genre of riding kinda like urban dh mountain biking
There will be a market for electric bike parks, both in the countryside and in town. I have a Surron and I don’t get bothered by anyone apart from die hard traditional trials bikes types, who wouldn’t let me ride it at their ground, even though I was riding trials (at my level, which is very much learner!).
The 10 second battery swap is probably the most important saftey feature of any electric bike. If there is a battery fire, you can make it a battery fire, rather than a bike fire.
I seen somebody with one of these driving through Rio Vista one day. Looked exactly like that one dirt bike magazine test ride one from a few years back
My Sondors Metacycle: Well, when it worked I didn’t like it much. I’m 80 and other than chasing my Pekingese I don’t ride in the dirt anymore. It’s now a BRICK! So I’m now going figure out what electric motorcycle is next. I’m thinking about the Zero FXE. I currently have a 72 Volt SurRon…WHICH WORKS! It’s fun but I don’t ride it like it should be ridden, trying to preserve these old bones.
Modern 450s are way overpowered for the average rider. Eli Tomac wishes the manufacturers would start making a 350F so it would be fun again. Josh Hill said the same thing. They are just on for the ride and trying to stay on the bike. They also say supercross tracks are just not big enough for modern 450s and that a 350 class would make it easier to jump for 250 riders rather than moving up to 450s. There would be fewer injuries and deaths too. When riding trails all my buddies are out of control on 450s and can't keep up with my 250 because they are fighting to stay on.
Everything you said was bible. I remember when Yamaha made the 400, then changed to the 450 and I was thinkin.."geez, are people complaining there isn't enough power..?"
I miss the 125 class. Skill is a bigger factor on smaller bikes and it's much more fun to watch. I remember the 85 and super mini classes being some of the best races to watch when I used to go to the track a lot.
Not worried about the cut outs. Easily remedied, but I was a Yamaha guy since the 1970s. I went to Honda after their aluminium frames. Got so sick of lying beside my bike looking st the sky. They will not turn. So sad. Why can Suzuki do it while Yamaha cannot. Still have the two stroke yzs but wont go near the four strokes.
Imma two stroke guy for life. But I have a 450 also. An electric bike. I wouldn’t know how to act on a quiet ass bike. But it’s a new era and you have to adjust
I would be interested in hearing how many miles it can go on a single charge before its un usable. My trail riding on my YZ250FX (2018) takes me anywhere between 15 miles and 20 miles. I spend alot of my time in 2nd and 3rd in tight tech trails. I would want to see that in order for me to commit to full electric.
When were done for a day of trail riding we usually cover about 40/50 miles, whether its long open fast powerline trails to single-track, in the middle of the woods. At least with the gas bike you will know based on how much fuel you have how much firther you can go.. And if you did run out gas, someone could have some gas with them or worst case someone could go get gas. But either way if you run out of battery, and you dont have another one you're going to be getting towed back which is never fun in bad terrain..
Amazing tech. And really awesome video.. But it's so difficult to watch :D... I suppose it's something I need to get used to, but if its go handlebars I need to hear it rip.. Not just see it. I can't imagine watching MX or SX with no sound, if you know what I mean.. But interesting video..
These would be great for enduro competitions. Just setup the stops for a quick battery change and mouthful of water. I used to ride a kawasaki kxf 450 petrol enduro bike and it was exhausting 😊😊
I wonder if a slipper clutch type mechanism wouldn't fix the issue when landing a jump at full throttle? Set it to slip when the tire tries to feed more power back through regen than the system can handle.
How are the original batteries for the bike. The top battery killers are heat and vibration. Interested in the life cycle of a battery for e-moto, e dirt bikes.
They are apparently running a high pole motor and the ESC processor can't maintain timing a 32-bit processor with fuzzy logic and programmable settings would be advantageous to tuning that motor combination.. .
Is this not the guy riding Florida Trail Riders and riding in Golden Master A in HS? That's class I just went back to riding and seen bike like that at starting line!
Very nice video review and super interesting product. However, some important stats are absent: 1) what was the before and after weight of the bike conversion? and 2) how many minutes were you able to ride like that on the 4.3kWh battery? Also interesting would be how far were you able to ride at a moderate pace on logging roads? Without that kind of basic data, it kind of feels like you are lying by omission.
The first thing we want to hear is distance on a battery. Allmodern bikes are badass. Tell me if I can go on a day of trail riding, or should I just go watch reviews on extreme Enduro Moto bikes?
After testing for codes to see fault for the magnets on their sensors. He mentions a possible cap bank....can you wire your throttle through another controller to a cdi that sees your voltage total, power (throttle usage 1-100%,) and has a better performance than another battery that needs upgraded cooling? Plus. When the guy without his helmet on says clutch. What did he mean? To slow down and switch to reverse when in a forward acceleration?
Power can be put through controller to sense the unused power and resent it to braking with smart throttle. Saves brakes (pads rotors) and uses less cooling and capacitor for long term maintenance. Winds a motor to recharge battery with unused power from smart throttle. Uses unused power to recharge. Uses smart throttle mapping on track mode for best efficiency and saves making a huge cap bank to keep your thighs warm
On internal combustion engine, they fit a cruise control. It should be possible to fit an electric amp controller that would limit the amps to what ever value acceptable for the electronic system, no ?
wondering if you will ride and compare the new Apollo RFN or the Admitjet electric Motor cycles - a lot of press about these over the past 18 months. Whilst I like the idea of rebirthing a CR250, YZ250 or RM250 as they are a great full size bike Chassis - I can see the kit from XE4 being very expensive. Batteries currenly the most exy part then the controllers as I understand. Motors are already pretty competitive out of China. Be interested in the price of their Kit however when you can buy a Apollo RFN for USD$4 K I think EX4 will be struggling to compete IMO
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Good thing you didn't mention the $10k price tag for this kit 😉 would've scared off everyone immediately! Lol
Not really interested. But thanks , I’ll pass . And pass again & keep on passing as the battery runs lower & lower, And lower ……. The Idea is refreshing to speculate , but the Harsh reality is the technology just isn’t here yet . Maybe some day ….
No F'en WAY😢
ima pass on this one..aahahaha
.nice
Really like the video, glad to see motorcycle conversion kits that could salvage a few old but trues a new life. I have been threatening to do an Electric mini bike and have something, kinda sorts mini bike with a 1000 watt direct drive system. that ride looked fun, I could see the difference from the Suron videos I have seen. they are much light and are springing around alot, and the way your ride dug it and owned the trail, real sure footed. Can't wait for marketing of the system, But will it only be for one type of bike or more universal for different makes and models?
I’m a huge noise guy for a bike! But this is incredible for those days you wanna rip or hit a field where nobody is gonna call the police on you. Especially where I am
Sadly that means "Cops vs MX riders" videos will be fewer and farther between going forward. LOL!
@@jkmarshall3553 that’s what I mean. This electric is a better idea so no cops are called..
I believe electric is the future but I hope we get a good 10 years more with gas , also I hope there is always classic classes with gas
@@MX-CO mee too. You can’t beat the noise and the smell of a gas bike. But I’m afraid cars and bikes will eventually bend to electric.
I want to call the police on this guy! This conversion kit is $10k that's robbery!
That battery design is pretty much exactly what I thought of as a industry standard so you could have charge stations at petrol stations that have charged batteries ready to go & you just swap them over. It would even be quicker than refueling.
You and probably 4 billion people too.
The thing that appeals to me so much is that we can have fun without the noise that draws attention, then losing the ability to go to a particular place, that instant torque must be nice.
Yoo it's awesome to see how far electric enduro bikes are getting! I live in the Netherlands where you can't really do much offroad without bothering someone.
If I had a bike like that I could just rip it offroad and no one would bmeven be aware of me riding.
You do know these things are not totally silent right and people do have eyes.
people would still report you - dont be fooled, if they see you they will still grass you up - it isnt about noise. its about shitheads who hate us for what we do
I have to go out at night to avoid dog walkers and this day drones 😢
These conversions are so sick. Love the idea of doing this in general, as all the power train type stuff can be bought for multiple different things. Something a lot of people can do on their own, unlike gas bikes, that require a little more mechanical knowledge.
@Sonic K So sick!! Lot more coming in this area.
This kit is over $10k bud, if you missed that part...
Spending 10K for a kit just buy the new Electric KTM.
I doubt this conversion is all that easy and you will need some mechanical know how. Most people who ride dirtbikes end up learning how to repair them on a basic level and doesn't take much to learn the rest of it.
Money talks. As long as a good condition used 250 four stroke or 125 two stroke is available for under $4000, no brainer as to what I'll own.
How cool Tucker! That swapable battery is epic.
This kit is $10k I don't think that's epic.
@@louiec.9782 it’s also a prototype. It will get cheaper once higher volumes are reached.
How much are the batteries
@@chadcampbell1586 84V 4KW Samsung battery for $3295.00 and the kit is $7000.00 battery not included in the kit, sold separately... Scum bag... The seller not you.
still less capacity then the swapable battery of my surron ultra and double the price and heavier
Being able to ride anywhere seems like a big plus. I do look forward to seeing the bugs worked out. I also would like to see tests on a MX and SX track. Thanks for the video.
PS: If somebody blows their ICE motor, this might be a viable alternative, when the price goes down.
Ride anywhere? That's what the vaping crowd said about vaping anywhere in 2012.
@@UncleSarkis I've never smoked but that sounds like a good analogy. Of course, I didn't mean it literally. Though, a good example, even if you own some land, but have nearby neighbors, they can complain about the loud sounds from an ICE dirt bikes and prevent you from riding on your private land (this happened to my brother). Also, some off-road vehicle parks will not let you ride a closed course (race) ICE bike on them, etc. In last weekend's SX race, many people left before the main events because of the build-up of gas fumes in the stadium. It was making hard for some to breath and causing their eyes to hurt.
@@jedielder7970 I never smoked either, but soon people who build or buy new homes built near MX tracks will complain about the dust, the environmentalist will complain that quiet electric bikes don't give certain animals enough time to react and get out of the way, and they're still disrupting the land and dirt, etc. etc.
Electric bikes definitely seem like a neat idea, but I can't give up the feeling of an MX ICE bike.
@@UncleSarkis I hear you.
You still have to ride in designated areas. If you decide to ride in illegal spots and someone witnesses you, the cops will get called. EV doesn't change that fact. The price most likely won't be going down for a long time as they have to recoup their costs which are probably fairly high right now.
That's awesome, and I believe these conversion kits will take over in the Ebike world..but..not at that price point. That's over $10k without the doner bike. If you want a second battery, add $3500. I'll be waiting for the cost of some of these parts to come down. I understand there is a lot of R&R but that doesn't make it any more affordable.
Should try the ebmx 9000 controller.
A varg is only 12k and that's the ultimate one.
@@c4r5on88 Base got the 60hp is 13k plus all the fees probably otd is $15k
@TepcoCycleRepair 12k here well £11.900 from a shop In Sheffield and they are the alpha models
@@c4r5on88 That's $14,500 in US.
I have never ever been car sick in my life. I have ridden in the Forrest for years. This video made me motion sick. That was awesome…
Even though I have no desire to own an electric dirt bike, this is the best idea I’ve seen yet. The other electric bikes are just not proven moto bikes
Wow. WICKED! I love this concept I can't wait until it catches on and goes wild.
Love the battery swap
Thanks, We designed the bike for Races longer than one battery will last. Shawn Clark recently won a race, on the new XE4, against all Ice bikes with fastest swap of eight seconds.
I watched you guys at the FTR races. I remember being at the DDR HS and was in the pits watching you guys swapped the battery out .
Great job! Croom looked good!
I met Mark one day when I was out on the KTM 450! Cool guy and seemed full of knowledge.
First things I wonder about: how long can you ride on a charge, how long does it take to charge the battery, how much does the bike weigh, power wise does it compare to a 250cc 4 stroke or 300cc, etc. Wish that summary was in the video, like at the beginning or end?
Doubtful... the Stark Varg does though.
4300watt/hrs would get you about 150 miles in eco mode. Probably 50 miles ripping hard
@@justinbogart278 50 miles seems far fetched when its 30kw power ballpark.
@@nickolaivuicich4105 perhaps. For ebikes/scooters pushing 1500 watts, full power is around half of eco range. For something like this, probably around a quarter.
Also the weight? How much does it weigh?
wow i gotta get me one of these,,i got some kind of ear issues going on and riding 2 stroke gas motors is just not an option for me anymore but these are so quiet i'll be able to enjoy dirt bike riding again without the troublesome noise..im so excited for the future of electric dirt bikes
Looks awesome. Unfortunately, the only conversion I'm really focused on is how many working Yamaha bikes I could buy for the equivalent cost of one Yamaha and $11K kit with quick swap battery, charger, programmer and seat. I'm thinking at least 4 used Yamahas in excellent condition at $3K each.
This has literally (not an expression) been a dream of mine since the mid 80s. As a kid who grew-up on horse farms in awesome offroad country, I rode trails for years and years on horses, ski-doos and of course, dirtbikes. I always thought it would be awesome to be as quiet as on a horse on a smooth, tight bike that makes no squeaks, rattles etc.... during moderate-sporty trail riding. One of these with belt drive would be even quieter (but I don't know about a belt off-road). The reason? Ever ride a horse on a peaceful, long hack on a quiet trail and a pack of two-strokes comes screaming-up to you?
The XEMX1 is the most raceable E-Moto in the off-road world. You may have seen all the hype for the Stark Varg but have you ever seen one?, or has it ever finished a race? The XEMX1 has.
It is currently winning in Florida Hare Scrambles and was 39th OA out of 595 Amateur riders on Sat. TKO Tennessee Knock Out Hard Enduro and the only E-Moto to finish that race.
Its is Kinda easy to put an electric motor in a bike frame and have it go down the road. It not easy to make it raceable against the current well refined generation of off-road ICE bikes.
XEMX is developing not only a great race bike but a great Electric race bike. Not because of global needs but because there are some new capabilities that a E-Moto can do that an ICE can’t. The current push on Electric vehicles is also driving more battery and programmers development that XEMX is taking advantage of.
It may not be for everyone but it is interesting to see how far the development can go.
These conversion kits are the ticket. As battery density increases it will be a no brainer. Thanks for sharing
Only when they become cheap. Also battery tech is not advancing all that fast and will hit a technical wall pretty soon.
Great job on the video folks! Thanks for making it. At that price point, I shouldn't have to "learn how to ride it". I hope they solve the cut-off problem and drop that price, because I love how electric conversion kits can breathe new life into run down old chassis.
its obviously a prototype...of course the bugs will be worked out
It’s nice to have that E swap option for your bike when they stop making parts for them one day in the future.
what was the weight before and after the conversion
I can’t wait till these boys fully get mainstream I can ride it behind a school in my area that has a great trait
Definitely sounds more Smooth and Efficient than any of the others a real winner in my opinion Guys
As far as the technical bugs which will no doubtably be resolved, this looks awesome! That said it also looks like you’ll be spending $11,000-ish on top of the donor bike. I suppose for me I’d probably go for KTM‘s offering.
The ktm bike sux. These look promising
11 grand buys a shit ton of fuel
11 grand? No thanks.
Cannot wait for Yamaha, KTM, Honda, and Kawasaki to build there own electric dirt bikes. I’m sure many manufacturers will be producing then soon
I've been riding and racing Yamahas before they had 'YZs"!!!!Both in the dirt and street.(district 38) (Willow spring's) grew up in the Coachella Valley, where you are at sea level, three to five years, zero precipitation. Perfect riding conditions.
We all rode 'open class' motorcycles.(over 400cc bikes) My old desert sled was a RD-400, stuffed into a YZ-465 chassis!! Yeah buddy!! I am a two-strokeaholic, and proud of it.
This YZ-Wistler sounds like a over-sexed golf cart. But I would imagine, a few playing cards in the spokes might help!!!😆😅😂🤣
The smell of pre-mix in the morning, reminds me of victory ✌️😎👍
Finally, an electric bike that makes sense. Add the clutch, and I'm in. But I'm still not giving up my 2T...
This is insane piece of machine i hope they keep improving on these
That’s killer. All it needs until the fault it fixed is a throttle stop screw. Like the WR450, RMZ450X, CRFX, etc..
The future in cars is electric but man I can't do an electric dirt bike I just can't I need to hear that 4 stroke or 2 stroke sound and smell that exhaust!
Just for the fact you are pretty much stealth i love it. Where i used to live the cops would be called on me for riding in the woods. Not fast or anything bad. Jus crawling pretty much. Hell with this bike you could never even tell i was in the woods. These will take awhile to come around. Once cost comes down then this will be the new norm folks
Good stuff! Full size ebikes are sick!
These bikes are in their infancy given 5 years and you will see something amazing
Cool! Yamaha chassis are great and glad you picked them for your test bed.
Hell I don't even ride a 4 stroke. Have the fun is the sound of a bike. Not to mention the smell of two stroke oil burning.
Does a yr of Bud Light come with the bike
(2 questions) 1st question: In the beginning of the video, he forward and reverse. Does that mean it has reverse? 2nd question: What's the curb weight?
I thought the same thing ehhhh Reverse could be useful...back up beeper?😮
How does it compare weight wise to the original?
Heavy, like all electric crap! 😂
How much does the bike weigh with this kit installed?
I wouldn't worry to much pal this kit cost $10k
I just don't know I am a old school 2 stroke racer .but these are the future I'm sure !
I’m at the ‘infancy’ stage of exploring buying a frame with valid / clean VIN, and attempting DIY. Obstacles: because eBikes are still New, unclear as to process/possibility of street legal Dual Sport; and, I’m not necessarily electrically inclined (I can Fabricate w/o issue UNTIL anything electrical comes to play).
These vids do Inspire ! 🤓
I don't see this ever replacing two or four stoke bikes, especially at the cost of it, but the doors of opportunity that could be opened for riding in those places where you legally can't!
Pretty cool. Love having the option. It’ll let me be able to ride even with the noise regulation restrictions in place.
I'd consider this conversion for my 05 KTM 250 if/when it's an option.
@JK Marshall We'll have some more content soon but there are options coming...
@@ElectricCycleRider Nice. Looks like you're at Croom... I'm a couple hours away.
THAT RIGHT THERE IS ENOUGH TO MAKE YA WANNA PUKE
FEELS LIKE A YZ250 SO WHAT DO THEY DO THEY MAKE THIS CRAP I GOT TO GO CLEAN UP I JUST PUKED ALL OVER MYSELF I CAN'T BELIEVE ANYBODY WOULD SUPPORT THIS SHIT
Definitely interested. Having switched to EVs, I'll never own another ICE car again and to own an electric MX bike would be awesome!
Control setup... Replace the shifter with a Regenerative control so you can "down shift" going down hills, and then "up shift" to have it flowy on corners and fast stuff. Keep the power level as a switch on the bars. Braking setup like a MT bike. I don't think you need a clutch anymore.
What’s the weight? How many miles on a full charge? What gear are you in? Are there gears?
Enjoy your half hour ride.😂
If they can keep prices a bit lower than currently projected, I could see this being a pretty cool product. Unfortunately at those prices you can almost get a varg and keep your 250f combustion. Still cool concept
I need it with the clutch
Watching this being ridden in real time, I would have crashed into 4,000 trees. I'd never be able to ride it this fast and see the track accurately. Am here for these powerful fast AC bikes
Neat but I'll stick with the smokers long as I can
Probably going to see alot more urban and vacant land in suburbs riding due to these. Might end up with a new genre of riding kinda like urban dh mountain biking
There will be a market for electric bike parks, both in the countryside and in town. I have a Surron and I don’t get bothered by anyone apart from die hard traditional trials bikes types, who wouldn’t let me ride it at their ground, even though I was riding trials (at my level, which is very much learner!).
@@Ukmongoose3 skiers used to hate snowboarders. It's tribal if you commit a little too much to a certain thing.
@@headmondronary2127 It was because they thought my bike was a handbag snatching tool, I think. But the funny thing is I am 66 and very well behaved!
I love the idea of conversion to e bike. I would like something like this for exactly what is being done in the video.
Super cool! Gonna keep tabs on this one for sure.
Same here! This conversion kit is only $10k I'm so excited for this!
The 10 second battery swap is probably the most important saftey feature of any electric bike. If there is a battery fire, you can make it a battery fire, rather than a bike fire.
What is the weight comparison in-between the two?
Do any of them keep the clutch? I've without any gears I would still like to have a clutch I just enjoy using it
In the video they xbmx guy said a clutch could e coming in the near future
yes a clutch would be awesome
Eather qith lefthand rear brake your hand is fine or with clutch like the french electric trials bike ..
The performance looks really good and I am seriously intrigued by this, but the pricing is concerning at +$10k plus the cost of the donor bike...
I seen somebody with one of these driving through Rio Vista one day. Looked exactly like that one dirt bike magazine test ride one from a few years back
I dig the stealth of the bike a lot! I want one!
My Sondors Metacycle: Well, when it worked I didn’t like it much. I’m 80 and other than chasing my Pekingese I don’t ride in the dirt anymore. It’s now a BRICK! So I’m now going figure out what electric motorcycle is next. I’m thinking about the Zero FXE.
I currently have a 72 Volt SurRon…WHICH WORKS! It’s fun but I don’t ride it like it should be ridden, trying to preserve these old bones.
Now that is cool. No more neighbors complaining
Wow first time I seen someone " STALL " a Electric bike LOL Concept looks awesome but I still want a Clutch, shifter and gears
The controller goes into " thermal cut back" or high voltage shutdown if the regen is set too high. Turn down the regen and the problem would go away.
Modern 450s are way overpowered for the average rider. Eli Tomac wishes the manufacturers would start making a 350F so it would be fun again. Josh Hill said the same thing. They are just on for the ride and trying to stay on the bike. They also say supercross tracks are just not big enough for modern 450s and that a 350 class would make it easier to jump for 250 riders rather than moving up to 450s. There would be fewer injuries and deaths too. When riding trails all my buddies are out of control on 450s and can't keep up with my 250 because they are fighting to stay on.
Everything you said was bible. I remember when Yamaha made the 400, then changed to the 450 and I was thinkin.."geez, are people complaining there isn't enough power..?"
I miss the 125 class. Skill is a bigger factor on smaller bikes and it's much more fun to watch. I remember the 85 and super mini classes being some of the best races to watch when I used to go to the track a lot.
@@badgermetal Riding a "slow" bike fast is more fun than riding a fast bike slow.
Not worried about the cut outs. Easily remedied, but I was a Yamaha guy since the 1970s. I went to Honda after their aluminium frames. Got so sick of lying beside my bike looking st the sky. They will not turn. So sad. Why can Suzuki do it while Yamaha cannot. Still have the two stroke yzs but wont go near the four strokes.
I came across this in the middle of the woods, very impressive. The owner is a hell of a guy if you can keep up 😅
Try an electric stove burner to soak up the regeneration, HAAS CNC does this. Obviously would need to be converted to the bike differently long term.
Imma two stroke guy for life. But I have a 450 also. An electric bike. I wouldn’t know how to act on a quiet ass bike. But it’s a new era and you have to adjust
I would be interested in hearing how many miles it can go on a single charge before its un usable. My trail riding on my YZ250FX (2018) takes me anywhere between 15 miles and 20 miles. I spend alot of my time in 2nd and 3rd in tight tech trails. I would want to see that in order for me to commit to full electric.
When were done for a day of trail riding we usually cover about 40/50 miles, whether its long open fast powerline trails to single-track, in the middle of the woods. At least with the gas bike you will know based on how much fuel you have how much firther you can go.. And if you did run out gas, someone could have some gas with them or worst case someone could go get gas. But either way if you run out of battery, and you dont have another one you're going to be getting towed back which is never fun in bad terrain..
So it's as reliable as an old car with points???
Lol
Would love to try a conversion like that.
Seems to be a golden mix.
Amazing tech. And really awesome video.. But it's so difficult to watch :D... I suppose it's something I need to get used to, but if its go handlebars I need to hear it rip.. Not just see it. I can't imagine watching MX or SX with no sound, if you know what I mean..
But interesting video..
Looks awesome!
What happens if the reverse button gets pressed while riding? Like if a branch or stick hits it?
These would be great for enduro competitions. Just setup the stops for a quick battery change and mouthful of water. I used to ride a kawasaki kxf 450 petrol enduro bike and it was exhausting 😊😊
How does it compare to the KTM Freeride. I was watching your video yesterday of you comparing lap time with the freeride and 300xcw
I wonder if a slipper clutch type mechanism wouldn't fix the issue when landing a jump at full throttle? Set it to slip when the tire tries to feed more power back through regen than the system can handle.
Yo, great video. Love the conversion kit and how it can retrofit ICE bikes. Where are you testing?
How are the original batteries for the bike. The top battery killers are heat and vibration. Interested in the life cycle of a battery for e-moto, e dirt bikes.
As it is I’m interested.
Once the refinements increase and the price point comes down, it could be the future I might embrace.
Great idea putting in a well proven chassis
This bike is urgently required in Saudi Arabia. How much is its price? It is really a better and stronger beast than Surron strom bee
They are apparently running a high pole motor and the ESC processor can't maintain timing a 32-bit processor with fuzzy logic and programmable settings would be advantageous to tuning that motor combination.. .
I love the smell of cam 2 in the morning.
Were you riding at Croom in Florida? Looks familiar from back in the day.
Amazing, its the nobody knows you're having fun thats the best 👌 no noise
Electric is incredible-remove clutch/shifting-add balance + awareness.
Clutch is fun though
Shifiting is part of the fun. EV while fast is boring. I drive a 6 speed car and test drove a couple of EV's and I was bored within 20 minutes.
@@Lukey-ts2xv clutch is essential
Is this not the guy riding Florida Trail Riders and riding in Golden Master A in HS? That's class I just went back to riding and seen bike like that at starting line!
Very nice video review and super interesting product. However, some important stats are absent: 1) what was the before and after weight of the bike conversion? and 2) how many minutes were you able to ride like that on the 4.3kWh battery? Also interesting would be how far were you able to ride at a moderate pace on logging roads? Without that kind of basic data, it kind of feels like you are lying by omission.
It looks like they merged the electric to the clutch system.
Greetings! what electric motor are you using? controller? battery?
The first thing we want to hear is distance on a battery. Allmodern bikes are badass. Tell me if I can go on a day of trail riding, or should I just go watch reviews on extreme Enduro Moto bikes?
most likely not great.
After testing for codes to see fault for the magnets on their sensors. He mentions a possible cap bank....can you wire your throttle through another controller to a cdi that sees your voltage total, power (throttle usage 1-100%,) and has a better performance than another battery that needs upgraded cooling?
Plus. When the guy without his helmet on says clutch. What did he mean? To slow down and switch to reverse when in a forward acceleration?
Power can be put through controller to sense the unused power and resent it to braking with smart throttle. Saves brakes (pads rotors) and uses less cooling and capacitor for long term maintenance. Winds a motor to recharge battery with unused power from smart throttle. Uses unused power to recharge. Uses smart throttle mapping on track mode for best efficiency and saves making a huge cap bank to keep your thighs warm
I race the same series as these bikes and they absolutely rip. Holeshot every race
That is such a cool bike, I'd love to test one.
On internal combustion engine, they fit a cruise control.
It should be possible to fit an electric amp controller that would limit the amps to what ever value acceptable for the electronic system, no ?
wondering if you will ride and compare the new Apollo RFN or the Admitjet electric Motor cycles - a lot of press about these over the past 18 months.
Whilst I like the idea of rebirthing a CR250, YZ250 or RM250 as they are a great full size bike Chassis - I can see the kit from XE4 being very expensive.
Batteries currenly the most exy part then the controllers as I understand.
Motors are already pretty competitive out of China.
Be interested in the price of their Kit however when you can buy a Apollo RFN for USD$4 K I think EX4 will be struggling to compete IMO
pretty cool, I'm sure theyll have those faults figured out 🤙🏼
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Should for a 10k kit.
@@briandhoward6137 I didnt look up the price, thats insane
@@VoltedAdventures agree, looks like I'll keep my surron lol
@@briandhoward6137 lol yessir 🤙🏼