Thanks a lot for such a detailed and in-depth video. Its very sad that some shops do the installs like this. Cause Im sure many people with badly installed and tuned systems wont go anywhere else to get it properly done. And those are people who wont come back to the aftermarket car audio world, which is a shame for me. Fantastic job from you people!
@@curbowbass6124 of course, this wasn’t even that bad, there were a few issues but we have seen so much worse. We are about to rectify another one this week
First video I’ve ever seen of you guys. Love technical in depth reasons why your decisions are better. Not a fan of mud slinging. Constructive negativity should be short, your business relies on your quality work not rectifying rubbish
@@paulwenbourne2655 Thank you, the goal of the video was to showcase the issues we come across every day. We had another one like this turn up today. It is very common and sad to see every time. I’m sure this was an off day for the installer but that shouldn’t be the customers fault. Hope you enjoyed the video and learnt abit more about how we do things
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Thank you so much for your kind words and support! 😊 It’s always amazing to connect with fellow enthusiasts who appreciate the joy of doing what you love. The Superb, especially the estate, is truly a fantastic car-glad you enjoyed watching! Sending warm greetings back to you in Russia! 🚗✨
Im just 6mins into the video but from the getgo I just know that this will be a good video so im here for the remainder of 36mins I got left (ofc I also subscribed right away"!
Yikes. I’m thinking of replacing 4 speakers on my very old factory system and I guess it’ll still sound terrible to a trained ear. Hoping it’ll sound better to my very untrained ears. I think I’ll also add some sound deadening so there’s a chance that’ll also make a bit of a difference. The expertise on show here is very impressive - it’s art really. Great stuff.
I bet the cost must have be very high for the amount of work vs the improvement in sound quality. I bet a simple dsp and a few tweaks would have got it 90% of the waybforba fraction of the cost. But im sire the "client" was happy to pay you of coming all the way from Ireland
32:28 Work is good not bad, but you guys forget 1 thing which is the fans that you have added behind the amplifiers as you look properly on 1st amp where it is aligned with the subwoofer 1 blade of the fan is missing which cause the vibration & vibration sound when fan is turn on. I think replacement with new fan is good option to avoid the vibration + vibration sound! Please take a look.
Also to add on this …the two rear fans are pulling away from the amps with 50% of the air being blocked by the pillar, highly doubt they will be doing much air movement.
A binaural recording, or even smartphone with stereo mics would have been 1000% better than the flat and lifeless audio demo at the end. Got work to do there.
Your fabrication is always on point. But got to disagree about the weight of the pillars being a massive issue, especially when running a mid in the pillars. If it was just a tweeter, sure a light weight finish is fine. But I'd always want a decent mass around a midrange.
@@cambridgeautosound Thank you, it is not life or death but on that apillar where they are only secured very poorly it is, hence why they fall off over time and stretch the a pillar
Have you seen their price structure? It's beyond most people's limits. I recently had mine done for £400 labour. Did the rest myself. Sounds very good.
@@grahamprescott9426 we offer solutions for under £1000 for supply and install. If you want cheaper than that, then there are other shops around to go to. We cater for a market that want quality and good service. If people want mediocre or unsafe work then they can carry on, it is not our market. Hope that helps you understand
That was impressive but a like for like before & after audio test (same music excerpts & exact same everything else) should be an absolute must for a video as detailed as this, especially if your objective is to show what improvements are available just by mostly refitting existing equipment. I realise my equipment is a factor when listening right now but at least it’d be the same for both before & after. ✌️
@@tomoxfford Good point and will try do that next time, the before and after gets filmed far apart and remembering which songs were played before is difficult but will try make notes
@@CambridgeCarAudio One way might be to use the same sound clip & recording setup for every test. Years from now there might be lots of hidden benefits of making it so easy to compare them all...
What about the A-Pillar Airbags? You can still see the bag itself, so i dread to think what would happen to the 1Kg+ A Pillar when/if that went off. Great video though. Amazing how people will pay all that money for audio kit and do half a job installing it.
Nice rework of the system, its a shame cos the actual components weren't half bad tbf. Anyway, whats your opinion on the burmester 4d sound system found in the mercedes s class, imo its the best factory sound system on the market
I know, that is the worst part. In terms of factory systems, it isn't one we get many complaints about so I presume it must be okay for most people, I haven't listened to one properly yet to comment
Hey guys im not sure if your mic is even capable of recording what that system is actually doing it is no doubt extremely difficult to capture the sound without distorting the microphone, it is so important to listen to a system in person to hear what it is capable of You Tube is no substitute even if you have a really good system to play UA-cam on it is not even close to representing what it actually sounds like. That certainly looks like it has been done right now. Nice to see folks with a little passion for their work.
@@gges1605 Thank you and very very true but people want to listen and it’s the only way to kinda show it even if it isn’t correct. Only way is in person. Really appreciate your comment and support for us. Thank you 🙏
@@CambridgeCarAudio @CambridgeCarAudio Yes your right but listening to distortion because mic cant cope is not a good way to show it off guys I am not sure what the answer is perhaps a better mic for recording might help but if your trying to demo it by using YT you should probably try eliminate that distortion funny thing is its because system hits hard that its causes that distortion in first place and why you really need to hear in person but considering your all about audio quality having distortion in your video not a good look, what will help a bit is turning it down when your recording it at that stage its about what the mic picks up not about what your experiencing sitting in car
@@gges1605 first they shoudl try to listenand then say it sounds so amazing.In reality not.Its heavily distorted and high top end missing.Cheap mic used while recording.Are it surprise me?Certanly not!.And using audison gear is not the best option.Audison DSP is the worse on the market.
@@StefanFranc-v8g On a distorted recording its incredibly hard to tell what it sounds like which is why I said you have to listen to these systems in situ. I am more a home hifi person than a car hifi guy so I will pass on commenting with regards to particular brands without having auditioned them myself. With regards to dsp though I would think some systems require a lot more signal processing than others and some can actually sound pretty good without it though in a small space like a car I expect dsp done right will be the icing on the cake.
Regarding the sub box, is fibre glass actually better than MDF? Would think that MDF is more innert to vibration and more suitable for a bass enclosure unless you make the fibre glass seriously thick. The original box looked pretty good other than the leaks that could have easily been filled. Seemed like a lot of work for minimal gain, and new enclosure certainly didn't look like it was nearly double the claimed 18litres of the original. Good effort that lad put in nonetheless.
Great video and a credit to your design and workmanship. It would be interesting to know around what these jobs cost. It is understandable that you would not wish to disclose how much customers pay for all the work but a ball park figure for equipment and perhaps time taken would be useful. I see your website has some pricing and that is helpful too.
Great point but yes, we don't share info like that online on these platforms, also this job is very different to normal as it was find and fix type of work
this was interesting and impressive to watch. can I ask how long an install like this normally takes? how did the customer from Ireland return and travel? do some customers opt to stay in the area for several days if they have travelled from afar? thanks
Thank you, this type of work takes a few weeks. This client drove over first for a consultation then came back, took a flight back then came back by plane and drove back. Every client is different and we can offer different methods too for transport
Pouring water into an MDF enclosure was just for dramatic effect because MDF itself is not waterproof so you pour enough water into it even if it was airtight at one point the water just destroyed the MDF to the point that it would absorb into the MDF and leak right through. There are other ways of measuring volume without using water. Dry materials like sand or silicate would have served the same purpose without destroying the MDF. One thing that wasn’t mentioned that looks like might have been a consideration in the original design was not to make permanent modifications to the car like drilling holes into metal panels and making it easily removable. That may have been why the sun enclosure and amp rack was done that way. It still wasn’t done well but it could explain the lack of bolted down items.
Yes, but still shows the amount of gaps, we seal the inside of an MDF box which would have held the water. The original request was to have a good safe sound. The box was flopping around, and things we not secured.
It doesn't. That's why the customer should be told this, its safety that has been affected and there is a ripple effect with that, so many things can be viode should this car be involved in a serious accident. If they was doing the right thing they should have told the customer this and made the customer sign some sort of waiver not holding them liable.
Great question and thank you. Depends on the airbag and locations. Airbag deployment is something we factor in when building these systems but an airbag would still deploy correctly with our systems
@@CambridgeCarAudio unless you have been certified by the largest airbag manufacturer you can't say what you just said. You can't certify yourself. You told me earlier I dont understand car audio and how to do things right, dont you dare make that mistake again!
@@0togtr811 😂😂😂 stop being a hater and just move on, your negativity doesn’t affect us, we just feel sorry for you that you have nothing better going on in your life than making negative comments on UA-cam 😂
I may need to come and see you guys, I’ve got a BMW 320D G21 with BimmerTech system self installed, it would benefit from some sound deadening as has none currently, and a proper tune setup on the Match8 DSP amp lol
Looks super good. Love to see this type of quality and expertise. But where those fans really needed? those look very out of place. Also the left fan has a broken blade and fans are mounted with exhaust side to the backseat, those wont be doing much efficient work. Maybe for the next time you could try some microfans of 40-60mm (noctua has those). These could be imbedded nicely into the side of the amplifier frame, to move air around. Again i love to see these type of high quality videos, there is always room for improvement :)
The fans were not used in the original build but we added them due the distance the client travels as a precautionary measure, they performed correctly for what we needed them to do
More of bashing the previous installer, only issues of the previous install were the leaking sub woofer and heavy a pillar trims, yes the wiring wasn't aesthetically pleasing but given how much flac you gave the previous installer yours isn't much better, expected more. Also the fast rings you used on speaker are open cell foam, and seriously don't do much, as a high end installer you ought to know this stuff. The guy doing all the work (curly hair white guy) seems to be giving neutral remarks about the previous installation, however the brown guy seems like he's on bashing mode 24*7, you can certainly do better guys.
What a botchers... Shame for these components. Just some basic install things. Been rocking these Hertz components in my car for a while and must say, the base is pretty good for door speakers!
Any reason you dont use a sound treatment like Stinger Ultimate that has the butyl and foam all in one instead of having to use spray glue and add your own foam to a door card?
Nice but too expensive (read: I am too poor). I wanted to add an external sub to my car and it was 1500$ only to add the cabling and whatnot. Did it on my own for 150$. Again, I like quality work, I'm just telling folks y'all shouldn't bother asking for quotes if you are not loaded.
@@CambridgeCarAudio The fan with one of the blades broken off will be out of balance which will shorten its lifespan as well as potentially creating unwanted extraneous noise. Just to be clear so we aren't misunderstanding, the fans should be configured so that one pair draws cool air INTO the amp rack as an "intake", and the 2nd pair of fans Exhaust the warm air OUT of the amp rack in a continuous flow. If both pairs of fans are configured so that they all push air into the amp rack, it will create positive pressure environment with very little air movement and will not remove and exhaust the heat from the amp rack efficiently.
No room under the floor. Bolted directly to the car and height was as low as possible to keep the customers boot space. We do try to hide the wiring where possible and have on other videos. But this was wired as it was to reduce noise created by power and to make it more maintainable for any future needs
Hello ! After watching your video I have some things to say. First I wanted to say that I like how JP does his job, he is pretty good and passionate ! Congrats to him ! Also for his marriage ! But now the bad things : you have serious issues with the sound deadening(more like lack of deadening) : 1. no 2 nd layer in the outer door pannel, not even after the midbase ! , 2. you did't put any deadening on the middle door ! You didn't even sealed the holes fron the doors with sound deadening ! Wtf, you will loose a lot of midbase ! 3. the floor needs a 2nd and 3rd layer or at least a sandwitch type material over the vibro 1st layer that you put. I'm sure that you charged the client a lot and you made a lot of econommy sound deadening the car. I made my car myself and with the ammount of materials I put in it I bet you would have made 3 cars lol ! :))
@@jondonnelly3 he is commenting on every single video with negative comments, nobody needs that kind of negativity in life. It’s sad but it’s true, he needs to stop putting his negative energy online
@CambridgeCarAudio nice work still and i would say it looks good but the ocd in me just cant not see the wrinkage that will get worse with time, though it is a pretty complicated shape, i would suggest mounting on 3d printed baffles, check out pssound too, his work is top notch too, some of his techniques are really good and work better than the old school way you showed, also makes for easier fabrication
Shouts of a customer who was advised or thought buying the most expensive Audison equipment would make quality sound when it doesn't. Are you using the rear as differential rear fill?
@@CambridgeCarAudio I would hope that the rear speakers are running fully active given the amplifier you added as well as the DSP you're using. But that wasn't the question. Are the rear component speakers configured as "Differential" rear fill, or just standard L & R stereo output with Front/Rear Fader control?
@CambridgeCarAudio I've seen many horror installs just like this one, and all of them had the same thing in common: Audison Hertz equipment. Looking very close at the install I think I can even name the shop that done that atrocity. Some people just need to find out the hard way, unfortunately. Well done fixing it.
It's not that bad an install, most of the sq issue is lack of a good dsp tune and fixing thing more securely. I don't think it needs ripping out and starting over but hey it's not my money.
It wasn’t as bad as we have seen but it did require that and that is what our client wanted as he wasn’t happy with the way the original installation was done
Checking for damage on the car should be done with the customer not by yourself. Lastly there was absolutely nothing wrong with the install just things needed to be screwed in better that's it, probably came loose with the crazy bass from a great install!
You obviously didn’t want the video 😂 if you think that’s all that was wrong you need to re watch it. It’s okay if you still think that after watching, you obviously don’t understand the level of detail required to make a proper system sound correct.
You should have your guys learn how to properly tune a car from like Peter from pssound. His demos are so much better. The highs, lows, mids are so clean it actually sounds better than hi-end home systems. You spend $100,000 on audio system in another video but the sound isn’t worth 100;000. Peter could probably make it sound better for 10,000.
@CambridgeCarAudio I really like your channel. I am not trying to knock you as matter of fact, it's one of my favorite channel on YT. I have car audio install in 3 of my cars. (Audison Voce, Focal and now ap2 and ap8 I think those are the prima speakers. ) The only thing is I've watched the tuning video and the guy basically uses audison auto tune. That never sounds good from my experience. You have to have a good ear and final tune the system which is like 50% of the install. Because you can have the most expensive speakers and if it's not tuned correctly it's not going to sound the way it should sound. On the other half your installation is one of the best and cleanest I've seen. The sound dampening and creativity is awesome. Please keep it up I like to watch your videos.
Midrange sounds muffled and muddy. You have done a great aesthetic job but the sound is rather rubbish. It sounds like one of those mediocre home theater systems. Hope that it does not cost too much.
@@CambridgeCarAudio no problem bud 👍🏻 longer and more in depth videos would also be appreciated 🙈 I would watch hour long videos, I love car audio, I used to have an Audi a3 with alpine dvd/tv player, ps3, infinity components in the doors and 2 x 12” alpine type R subs and alpine mono block amp, ok I did it all myself and probably didn’t sound the way it could have 🙈 but I loved doing sound systems 👍🏻
You still used mdf for the face of the sub box so water tight my arse and your wiring to the amps and the DSP is shocking Tessa tape isn't the answer if you can't get your wiring correctly hidden. And fitting a mobridge would have fixed you problems you say you had. It also looks like the customer had the first company put it in on a budget I noticed nothing was said why you say about the sound quality. I bet you didn't Evan check if the speakers where in phase and the DSP set correctly at the start
Same thought here. For me it looks like it was a tuning issue. The pillars are completely fine I don’t see the value for completely redoing them. The sub box could have been sealed easily. Put in dampening material to simulate a larger box. Ok the deadening was poor and the overall install isn’t great but it is still better than everything I have got here in Munich Germany. As soon as you start to do it by yourself you start to think about it differently e.g that there are cheaper more efficient options. This is a great install dont unterstand me wrong but it is way to expensive 😂 and the problems could have been solved so much easier.
That’s not true, padding inside a box only helps so much, you can’t get away from the box was so small for what it required it to be and also the apillars weren’t fine as they were hanging off, the speakers weren’t secure and they weighed too much for the small clips holding it on
@@christophergettings9159 they don't know what they are doing and I've seen them graduating from the university of UA-cam. Tessa tape is for protecting the wire not making it look good. Who wants to look at a taped wire and say ' yes that looks awesome'. The factory users Tessa tape to protect their wiring through the vehicle in the places you CAN NOT SEE.
😂😂 Mr keyboard warrior, please take your negativity elsewhere, nobody likes you here or is impressed by your lack of intellect and childish behaviour. Byeeee
As a profesional audio shop you should know than instaling midbass speakers into flimsy door doesnt imrpove the midbass.Worse location for midbass!You can use as many soundeadening material you like to make the door rigid but the sound never will be good!Im surprise you dont know that!!!You are far behind PS SOUND!!!far far.
We are not in the same market, what we specialise in is something very different to Peter (not knocking what he does). We are not building this car for competition level, we are building it for the our client and how they want it. Business is not a race and winners and losers. We do what we want and others can do what they want. Chill and enjoy life a little :)
@CambridgeCarAudio what's the point in explaining, especially when you fail to understand why drivers facing your ankles are useless. You people have no idea about audio.
@ we would love to see your supercar with a custom sound system in when you are next passing past 👌 don’t hate on others mate, just try to smile and enjoy life
@CambridgeCarAudio yeah I hate skodas mate. But at least I know the basics of acoustics and physics. And that's my point. You asked and I answered, learn to enjoy life and ignore those with a differing opinion. One day I may just do a video on my car.
Thanks a lot for such a detailed and in-depth video. Its very sad that some shops do the installs like this. Cause Im sure many people with badly installed and tuned systems wont go anywhere else to get it properly done. And those are people who wont come back to the aftermarket car audio world, which is a shame for me. Fantastic job from you people!
@@reset1101 thank you and very true
And another thought, is there are worse installs than the initial one in this car. 😳 Love the detailed description of this install!!!
@@curbowbass6124 of course, this wasn’t even that bad, there were a few issues but we have seen so much worse. We are about to rectify another one this week
Great work but get your camera man to stop walking forwards and then backwards all the time……did he need the toilet ?😂
@@schizo3177 😂 possibly
His backwards and forwards led to the cars number plate being revealed at 12:07 when you took time to mask it at the start 🥲
First video I’ve ever seen of you guys. Love technical in depth reasons why your decisions are better. Not a fan of mud slinging. Constructive negativity should be short, your business relies on your quality work not rectifying rubbish
@@paulwenbourne2655 Thank you, the goal of the video was to showcase the issues we come across every day. We had another one like this turn up today. It is very common and sad to see every time. I’m sure this was an off day for the installer but that shouldn’t be the customers fault. Hope you enjoyed the video and learnt abit more about how we do things
@@CambridgeCarAudio sure did! Off to watch some more now
@@paulwenbourne2655 👌
Всегда приятно смотреть на тех, кто действительно увлечён своим делом. И получают удовольствие от своей работы!!!! Желаю вам больших успехов!!!! Кстати, СуперБ, тем более универсал, один из любимых моих автомобилей!!!! Поэтому я смотрел с большим удовольствием!!! Привет из России!!!!
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! 😊 It’s always amazing to connect with fellow enthusiasts who appreciate the joy of doing what you love. The Superb, especially the estate, is truly a fantastic car-glad you enjoyed watching! Sending warm greetings back to you in Russia! 🚗✨
Honestly ridiculous to watch, in a great way.. Hugely informative and intriguing.. You gotta get this dude as your face for the business!
He filmed a short review for us on your Instagram page!
Im just 6mins into the video but from the getgo I just know that this will be a good video so im here for the remainder of 36mins I got left (ofc I also subscribed right away"!
@@emilhansson5488 thank you 🙏
Yikes. I’m thinking of replacing 4 speakers on my very old factory system and I guess it’ll still sound terrible to a trained ear. Hoping it’ll sound better to my very untrained ears. I think I’ll also add some sound deadening so there’s a chance that’ll also make a bit of a difference. The expertise on show here is very impressive - it’s art really. Great stuff.
Thank you
I really enjoyed seeing more of the entire build process. Nice
Thank you
Fantastic work guys. Your attention to detail is second to none 👏🏻
Thank you, love the support. Always room to grow 🙏
I bet the cost must have be very high for the amount of work vs the improvement in sound quality. I bet a simple dsp and a few tweaks would have got it 90% of the waybforba fraction of the cost. But im sire the "client" was happy to pay you of coming all the way from Ireland
The difference was huge and yes they were happy with everything we did :)
Ardil what a video amazing work jp and exellent way you explained it and shows how it should be done amazing work again lads.
@@bigsteviesri thank you, appreciate the support
32:28 Work is good not bad, but you guys forget 1 thing which is the fans that you have added behind the amplifiers as you look properly on 1st amp where it is aligned with the subwoofer 1 blade of the fan is missing which cause the vibration & vibration sound when fan is turn on.
I think replacement with new fan is good option to avoid the vibration + vibration sound!
Please take a look.
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Also to add on this …the two rear fans are pulling away from the amps with 50% of the air being blocked by the pillar, highly doubt they will be doing much air movement.
A binaural recording, or even smartphone with stereo mics would have been 1000% better than the flat and lifeless audio demo at the end. Got work to do there.
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Your fabrication is always on point. But got to disagree about the weight of the pillars being a massive issue, especially when running a mid in the pillars. If it was just a tweeter, sure a light weight finish is fine. But I'd always want a decent mass around a midrange.
@@cambridgeautosound Thank you, it is not life or death but on that apillar where they are only secured very poorly it is, hence why they fall off over time and stretch the a pillar
Proof if ever needed of the term "you pay for quality, the more you pay, the better the quality"
@@dannyhudson5115 very true 🙏
Have you seen their price structure? It's beyond most people's limits. I recently had mine done for £400 labour. Did the rest myself. Sounds very good.
@@grahamprescott9426 we offer solutions for under £1000 for supply and install. If you want cheaper than that, then there are other shops around to go to. We cater for a market that want quality and good service. If people want mediocre or unsafe work then they can carry on, it is not our market. Hope that helps you understand
That was impressive but a like for like before & after audio test (same music excerpts & exact same everything else) should be an absolute must for a video as detailed as this, especially if your objective is to show what improvements are available just by mostly refitting existing equipment.
I realise my equipment is a factor when listening right now but at least it’d be the same for both before & after. ✌️
@@tomoxfford Good point and will try do that next time, the before and after gets filmed far apart and remembering which songs were played before is difficult but will try make notes
@@CambridgeCarAudio One way might be to use the same sound clip & recording setup for every test. Years from now there might be lots of hidden benefits of making it so easy to compare them all...
@anonimushbosh nice idea 👌
What about the A-Pillar Airbags? You can still see the bag itself, so i dread to think what would happen to the 1Kg+ A Pillar when/if that went off.
Great video though. Amazing how people will pay all that money for audio kit and do half a job installing it.
Airbag system would be operational - thank you, the problem is that it is mostly hidden behind panels so a client would never know :)
Amazing content keep this up
@@jamesrichard6815 thank you, hopefully we don’t have to do too many more of these types of videos as we hope the industry levels up 🙏
The skillset required is impressive
Thank you
Nice rework of the system, its a shame cos the actual components weren't half bad tbf. Anyway, whats your opinion on the burmester 4d sound system found in the mercedes s class, imo its the best factory sound system on the market
I know, that is the worst part. In terms of factory systems, it isn't one we get many complaints about so I presume it must be okay for most people, I haven't listened to one properly yet to comment
You do proper sound deadening and installation but the final tune isn’t just right. Otherwise I like your videos a lot! I’m not a hater.
Thank you but why is it not right
Hey guys im not sure if your mic is even capable of recording what that system is actually doing it is no doubt extremely difficult to capture the sound without distorting the microphone, it is so important to listen to a system in person to hear what it is capable of You Tube is no substitute even if you have a really good system to play UA-cam on it is not even close to representing what it actually sounds like. That certainly looks like it has been done right now. Nice to see folks with a little passion for their work.
@@gges1605 Thank you and very very true but people want to listen and it’s the only way to kinda show it even if it isn’t correct. Only way is in person. Really appreciate your comment and support for us. Thank you 🙏
@@CambridgeCarAudio @CambridgeCarAudio Yes your right but listening to distortion because mic cant cope is not a good way to show it off guys I am not sure what the answer is perhaps a better mic for recording might help but if your trying to demo it by using YT you should probably try eliminate that distortion funny thing is its because system hits hard that its causes that distortion in first place and why you really need to hear in person but considering your all about audio quality having distortion in your video not a good look, what will help a bit is turning it down when your recording it at that stage its about what the mic picks up not about what your experiencing sitting in car
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@@gges1605 first they shoudl try to listenand then say it sounds so amazing.In reality not.Its heavily distorted and high top end missing.Cheap mic used while recording.Are it surprise me?Certanly not!.And using audison gear is not the best option.Audison DSP is the worse on the market.
@@StefanFranc-v8g On a distorted recording its incredibly hard to tell what it sounds like which is why I said you have to listen to these systems in situ. I am more a home hifi person than a car hifi guy so I will pass on commenting with regards to particular brands without having auditioned them myself. With regards to dsp though I would think some systems require a lot more signal processing than others and some can actually sound pretty good without it though in a small space like a car I expect dsp done right will be the icing on the cake.
Invest in a binaural microphone, it will demo the benefits of a tuned DSP much better
@@FinleyESB 🙏🙏🙏
Regarding the sub box, is fibre glass actually better than MDF? Would think that MDF is more innert to vibration and more suitable for a bass enclosure unless you make the fibre glass seriously thick. The original box looked pretty good other than the leaks that could have easily been filled. Seemed like a lot of work for minimal gain, and new enclosure certainly didn't look like it was nearly double the claimed 18litres of the original. Good effort that lad put in nonetheless.
Thank you, we use a mix of the 2 to create what we need :)
Great video and a credit to your design and workmanship. It would be interesting to know around what these jobs cost. It is understandable that you would not wish to disclose how much customers pay for all the work but a ball park figure for equipment and perhaps time taken would be useful. I see your website has some pricing and that is helpful too.
Great point but yes, we don't share info like that online on these platforms, also this job is very different to normal as it was find and fix type of work
Camera man getting his steps in
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this was interesting and impressive to watch.
can I ask how long an install like this normally takes?
how did the customer from Ireland return and travel?
do some customers opt to stay in the area for several days if they have travelled from afar?
thanks
Thank you, this type of work takes a few weeks. This client drove over first for a consultation then came back, took a flight back then came back by plane and drove back. Every client is different and we can offer different methods too for transport
Top work guys, Bravo... What material is that you used to wrap the pillars?
Greetings from Australia
Thank you so much. We use a material called Milano :)
Pouring water into an MDF enclosure was just for dramatic effect because MDF itself is not waterproof so you pour enough water into it even if it was airtight at one point the water just destroyed the MDF to the point that it would absorb into the MDF and leak right through. There are other ways of measuring volume without using water. Dry materials like sand or silicate would have served the same purpose without destroying the MDF. One thing that wasn’t mentioned that looks like might have been a consideration in the original design was not to make permanent modifications to the car like drilling holes into metal panels and making it easily removable. That may have been why the sun enclosure and amp rack was done that way. It still wasn’t done well but it could explain the lack of bolted down items.
Yes, but still shows the amount of gaps, we seal the inside of an MDF box which would have held the water. The original request was to have a good safe sound. The box was flopping around, and things we not secured.
How do curtain airbags perform with custom made trims, genuine question... Great vid and nice work by the way
It doesn't. That's why the customer should be told this, its safety that has been affected and there is a ripple effect with that, so many things can be viode should this car be involved in a serious accident. If they was doing the right thing they should have told the customer this and made the customer sign some sort of waiver not holding them liable.
😂 please just stop commenting on things you don’t know anything about
Great question and thank you. Depends on the airbag and locations. Airbag deployment is something we factor in when building these systems but an airbag would still deploy correctly with our systems
@@CambridgeCarAudio unless you have been certified by the largest airbag manufacturer you can't say what you just said. You can't certify yourself. You told me earlier I dont understand car audio and how to do things right, dont you dare make that mistake again!
@@0togtr811 😂😂😂 stop being a hater and just move on, your negativity doesn’t affect us, we just feel sorry for you that you have nothing better going on in your life than making negative comments on UA-cam 😂
I may need to come and see you guys, I’ve got a BMW 320D G21 with BimmerTech system self installed, it would benefit from some sound deadening as has none currently, and a proper tune setup on the Match8 DSP amp lol
Let's do it
what is the material used to cover the amp board, sub box, and a pillar with peel off backing? it seems that you don't needs adhesive with it.
Correct, already pre glued carpet
@CambridgeCarAudio Can you tell me who makes it? I want to try it in my project vehicle.
@ AS trim
Looks super good. Love to see this type of quality and expertise. But where those fans really needed? those look very out of place. Also the left fan has a broken blade and fans are mounted with exhaust side to the backseat, those wont be doing much efficient work. Maybe for the next time you could try some microfans of 40-60mm (noctua has those). These could be imbedded nicely into the side of the amplifier frame, to move air around. Again i love to see these type of high quality videos, there is always room for improvement :)
The fans were not used in the original build but we added them due the distance the client travels as a precautionary measure, they performed correctly for what we needed them to do
More of bashing the previous installer, only issues of the previous install were the leaking sub woofer and heavy a pillar trims, yes the wiring wasn't aesthetically pleasing but given how much flac you gave the previous installer yours isn't much better, expected more.
Also the fast rings you used on speaker are open cell foam, and seriously don't do much, as a high end installer you ought to know this stuff.
The guy doing all the work (curly hair white guy) seems to be giving neutral remarks about the previous installation, however the brown guy seems like he's on bashing mode 24*7, you can certainly do better guys.
Thanks for the comment :)
Wish I could find a place like this in my country but there isn't one.
@@janrdoh 🙏🙏
What a botchers... Shame for these components. Just some basic install things. Been rocking these Hertz components in my car for a while and must say, the base is pretty good for door speakers!
@@JohanH1990 yeppp, crazy really. Glad you love them
What is the self adhesive carpet you used in the rear? It looks much easier than spray glue. Nice OEM texture too.
We use Xtreme Contact Adhesive
Separate EQ for listening with the sunroof open?
@@moericke this can be done
Last thoughtful touch would of been adding sub guard/grill especially being exposed in the boot.
The sub does have a grill :)
How much did he spent additionally with you?
We do not share info like that but it would have been cheaper to come here first :)
Any reason you dont use a sound treatment like Stinger Ultimate that has the butyl and foam all in one instead of having to use spray glue and add your own foam to a door card?
We were re using some of the materials used by the previous installers
How much roughly for this type of set up
This was unique as it was a re do job but feel free to visit us so we can spec your system for you
Noticed you blurred the license plate, it’s on full show later in the video!
We noticed after uploading 🙄
@@CambridgeCarAudio as long as your aware that’s all that matters!
@@hrzon2935 🙏
@@CambridgeCarAudio stupid!
Nice but too expensive (read: I am too poor). I wanted to add an external sub to my car and it was 1500$ only to add the cabling and whatnot. Did it on my own for 150$. Again, I like quality work, I'm just telling folks y'all shouldn't bother asking for quotes if you are not loaded.
We do good work, we focus on quality. We can not do the level we do for very low pricing or comparing to doing it yourself. Thank you
Nice work. But that back fans are pushing air into nothing from what it seems like? And one of them have a propeller chopped off aswell.
@@pcguru.1 there are 4 fans, 2 moving air forward and 2 backwards and down 👌
@@CambridgeCarAudio
The fan with one of the blades broken off will be out of balance which will shorten its lifespan as well as potentially creating unwanted extraneous noise.
Just to be clear so we aren't misunderstanding, the fans should be configured so that one pair draws cool air INTO the amp rack as an "intake", and the 2nd pair of fans Exhaust the warm air OUT of the amp rack in a continuous flow.
If both pairs of fans are configured so that they all push air into the amp rack, it will create positive pressure environment with very little air movement and will not remove and exhaust the heat from the amp rack efficiently.
No problem having mass in A pillars. Untill airbags go off.
Not true
Never knew mfd was water resistant 😂
Haha, it is just a dramatic way to show all the gaps
Don’t know why but I thought the amplifier wiring would look minimal, could cables have been routed under the floor?
No room under the floor. Bolted directly to the car and height was as low as possible to keep the customers boot space. We do try to hide the wiring where possible and have on other videos. But this was wired as it was to reduce noise created by power and to make it more maintainable for any future needs
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Hello ! After watching your video I have some things to say. First I wanted to say that I like how JP does his job, he is pretty good and passionate ! Congrats to him ! Also for his marriage !
But now the bad things : you have serious issues with the sound deadening(more like lack of deadening) : 1. no 2 nd layer in the outer door pannel, not even after the midbase ! , 2. you did't put any deadening on the middle door ! You didn't even sealed the holes fron the doors with sound deadening ! Wtf, you will loose a lot of midbase ! 3. the floor needs a 2nd and 3rd layer or at least a sandwitch type material over the vibro 1st layer that you put. I'm sure that you charged the client a lot and you made a lot of econommy sound deadening the car. I made my car myself and with the ammount of materials I put in it I bet you would have made 3 cars lol ! :))
Thank you and hope you have a nice day :)
Which material are you guys using for 3d print parts to be sturdy and good for speakers resonance ?
ABS
11:49 wow, now that is bad job done by those before,
what is that next to the dizzy block?
What?
@ what would be the name of the small cube shaped black device located to the right of the fused electrical distribution block?
@ do you mean an Audison B-Con
@@CambridgeCarAudio thats the one! Thank you.
was expecting cambridge audio equipment for some reason dont think they do car audio...different company ?
@@bullitmaget8193 yes, different business
The quality of the sound is as good as your microphone that records it. So not even close to what it would be.
Yes, we are aware, even with the best mic ever, it wouldn't do justice
@@CambridgeCarAudio your quality of work is next level and one can then just imagine how that sounds.
@ Thabk you 👌
why not use the Audison AF C8.14 bit 8? or the AF M12 ?
Because they didn't use their brain.
hey hater, time to grow up 😂😂
Customer spec and budget, we offer lots of different options and every customer wants something different
Very childish to reply to every comment with a different opinion as 'hater'. Unsubed. Grow up. @@CambridgeCarAudio
@@jondonnelly3 he is commenting on every single video with negative comments, nobody needs that kind of negativity in life. It’s sad but it’s true, he needs to stop putting his negative energy online
32:32 you said the previous a pillar were not that good? What is this then? Certainly not bad but i wouldnt call it good
@@eustahijelifetips Thanks for the feedback 👍
@CambridgeCarAudio nice work still and i would say it looks good but the ocd in me just cant not see the wrinkage that will get worse with time, though it is a pretty complicated shape, i would suggest mounting on 3d printed baffles, check out pssound too, his work is top notch too, some of his techniques are really good and work better than the old school way you showed, also makes for easier fabrication
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Shouts of a customer who was advised or thought buying the most expensive Audison equipment would make quality sound when it doesn't. Are you using the rear as differential rear fill?
It’s all about the install that makes it. Rears are running fully active on this system
@@CambridgeCarAudio
I would hope that the rear speakers are running fully active given the amplifier you added as well as the DSP you're using.
But that wasn't the question. Are the rear component speakers configured as "Differential" rear fill, or just standard L & R stereo output with Front/Rear Fader control?
Typical Audison dealer install :)
@@Dirtyhealz What do you mean by this?
@CambridgeCarAudio I've seen many horror installs just like this one, and all of them had the same thing in common: Audison Hertz equipment. Looking very close at the install I think I can even name the shop that done that atrocity. Some people just need to find out the hard way, unfortunately. Well done fixing it.
@@Dirtyhealz It is sad, but we have seen many using other brands too. It’s not just Audison, it’s just the amount of poor installs around
That amp situation looks just as messy as it started.
😂 okay
@CambridgeCarAudio a bit of context to your replies would be good rather than just emojis
@@clifton1989 no point trying to educate haters
What a waste of the Superb's Canton system though, possibly the best offering of any vag car besides high end Audi models.
The system can be reversed and moved to another car and the Canton system can be put back in but this system is far far beyond the Skoda system
It's not that bad an install, most of the sq issue is lack of a good dsp tune and fixing thing more securely. I don't think it needs ripping out and starting over but hey it's not my money.
It wasn’t as bad as we have seen but it did require that and that is what our client wanted as he wasn’t happy with the way the original installation was done
Checking for damage on the car should be done with the customer not by yourself. Lastly there was absolutely nothing wrong with the install just things needed to be screwed in better that's it, probably came loose with the crazy bass from a great install!
You obviously didn’t want the video 😂 if you think that’s all that was wrong you need to re watch it. It’s okay if you still think that after watching, you obviously don’t understand the level of detail required to make a proper system sound correct.
It has some issues, but not many are totally overblown.
You should have your guys learn how to properly tune a car from like Peter from pssound. His demos are so much better. The highs, lows, mids are so clean it actually sounds better than hi-end home systems. You spend $100,000 on audio system in another video but the sound isn’t worth 100;000. Peter could probably make it sound better for 10,000.
@@janzvacek2674 that’s the mic, we have just bought a better set up. Nothing wrong with the tune
@CambridgeCarAudio I really like your channel. I am not trying to knock you as matter of fact, it's one of my favorite channel on YT. I have car audio install in 3 of my cars. (Audison Voce, Focal and now ap2 and ap8 I think those are the prima speakers. ) The only thing is I've watched the tuning video and the guy basically uses audison auto tune. That never sounds good from my experience. You have to have a good ear and final tune the system which is like 50% of the install. Because you can have the most expensive speakers and if it's not tuned correctly it's not going to sound the way it should sound. On the other half your installation is one of the best and cleanest I've seen. The sound dampening and creativity is awesome. Please keep it up I like to watch your videos.
Great work but you really need to be wearing masks with MDF, filler, paint etc. lads.
@@andrewandlm tell me about it, they have all the supplies 😭
This is why I find it hard to trust people with my hard earned money
@@Birmingham_racing it is sad really
Tidy sounds better? Who knew 🤦🏻♂️
@@steffydog Tidy and secure and safe sounds better with correct application of an install
And how much would that cost? 20K ?😂😂😂
Nope
How much would this setup cost wise if I already have the amps and sub, speakers.
@@tranquillitymedia we would need to inspect everything in person before quoting
if you habe to ask the price you can't afford it
@@mikej857 that's ridicules, fair point if you got alot of money go for it dont ask the price get broke sooner then later.
Asking pricing is no problem but we can’t give it without inspection for gear to know what we will need
those exposed fans tho
@@devil01942 the floor covers it all
You do high end audio, but the audio quality from your mics is terrible.
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Midrange sounds muffled and muddy. You have done a great aesthetic job but the sound is rather rubbish. It sounds like one of those mediocre home theater systems. Hope that it does not cost too much.
Try listen to it in person, you think all that work was done to fix it sounded like a mediocre home theater system. Obviously not the case
Much better sound My D4S 9 channel And Taramps Pro 2.6 S Digital Audio Processor is a very good combo.
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Fair enough but it doesnt make any difference to normal ears u are just doing too much extra
@@paras5567 maybe from your seat you can’t hear the difference, the difference is huge
I could do a better job than the first company done on my driveway 👍🏻
@@kevinkvs9746 Unfortunately that may be true 😂
@@CambridgeCarAudiothe Audio and workmanship has been enhance massively 👏🏻 great job huys
@@kevinkvs9746 Thank you, really appreciate the feedback
@@CambridgeCarAudio no problem bud 👍🏻 longer and more in depth videos would also be appreciated 🙈 I would watch hour long videos, I love car audio, I used to have an Audi a3 with alpine dvd/tv player, ps3, infinity components in the doors and 2 x 12” alpine type R subs and alpine mono block amp, ok I did it all myself and probably didn’t sound the way it could have 🙈 but I loved doing sound systems 👍🏻
@@kevinkvs9746 it’s very hard to do, we had pull quite a few extra hours to get this video done
Burn that box and build a real pro box.
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Is it just me that finds the constant camera shifting in and out and shaking a bit, while he's explaining, really damn annoying,,,
Sorry :(
80 percent bull shit talk 20 percent actual work showing.
@@vinoheart amazing, we have another hater. Grow up and also thanks for the view, it helps us a lot 🙏
You still used mdf for the face of the sub box so water tight my arse and your wiring to the amps and the DSP is shocking Tessa tape isn't the answer if you can't get your wiring correctly hidden.
And fitting a mobridge would have fixed you problems you say you had.
It also looks like the customer had the first company put it in on a budget I noticed nothing was said why you say about the sound quality.
I bet you didn't Evan check if the speakers where in phase and the DSP set correctly at the start
Same thought here. For me it looks like it was a tuning issue. The pillars are completely fine I don’t see the value for completely redoing them. The sub box could have been sealed easily. Put in dampening material to simulate a larger box. Ok the deadening was poor and the overall install isn’t great but it is still better than everything I have got here in Munich Germany. As soon as you start to do it by yourself you start to think about it differently e.g that there are cheaper more efficient options. This is a great install dont unterstand me wrong but it is way to expensive 😂 and the problems could have been solved so much easier.
Yes that all got checked 😂
That’s not true, padding inside a box only helps so much, you can’t get away from the box was so small for what it required it to be and also the apillars weren’t fine as they were hanging off, the speakers weren’t secure and they weighed too much for the small clips holding it on
@@christophergettings9159 they don't know what they are doing and I've seen them graduating from the university of UA-cam. Tessa tape is for protecting the wire not making it look good. Who wants to look at a taped wire and say ' yes that looks awesome'. The factory users Tessa tape to protect their wiring through the vehicle in the places you CAN NOT SEE.
😂😂 Mr keyboard warrior, please take your negativity elsewhere, nobody likes you here or is impressed by your lack of intellect and childish behaviour. Byeeee
So hang on just to understand sorry for the ignorance this is has come out of the factory like this?
@@xpressdoorway hi, no, another company has fitted all the gear and we fixed the install
As a profesional audio shop you should know than instaling midbass speakers into flimsy door doesnt imrpove the midbass.Worse location for midbass!You can use as many soundeadening material you like to make the door rigid but the sound never will be good!Im surprise you dont know that!!!You are far behind PS SOUND!!!far far.
We are not in the same market, what we specialise in is something very different to Peter (not knocking what he does). We are not building this car for competition level, we are building it for the our client and how they want it. Business is not a race and winners and losers. We do what we want and others can do what they want. Chill and enjoy life a little :)
@@CambridgeCarAudio thats definitelly worth it.Spending hours and hours to make proper sub box inc pillars and door leave it how it is.Have nice day!
@ you too buddy 😎
Its a skoda ffs
@@powerplay8355 your point exactly ?
@CambridgeCarAudio what's the point in explaining, especially when you fail to understand why drivers facing your ankles are useless. You people have no idea about audio.
@ we would love to see your supercar with a custom sound system in when you are next passing past 👌 don’t hate on others mate, just try to smile and enjoy life
@CambridgeCarAudio yeah I hate skodas mate. But at least I know the basics of acoustics and physics. And that's my point. You asked and I answered, learn to enjoy life and ignore those with a differing opinion. One day I may just do a video on my car.
@powerplay8355 you wouldn’t see us hating on it if you did. It’s sad that a Skoda can upset you so much. Feel for you 🙏