Harley Touring external breather mod on Screamin' Eagle Ventilator

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024

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  • @jcook5297
    @jcook5297 4 місяці тому +1

    I did a similar mod and used a DK Customs catch can. Lots of water moisture along with oil mist!! So glad I did it on my ‘21 Ultra-Limited.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  4 місяці тому

      Good job. I hate the idea of all that crap being sucked back into my engine!

  • @jamesmailly7990
    @jamesmailly7990 26 днів тому +1

    Use 12 point socket on square tools , with 12 point socket , 1/4” drive ratchet works GREAT !!

  • @deweydodo6691
    @deweydodo6691 Рік тому +15

    A 12 point 1/4" inch drive socket of the right size fits the tap and works better than rotating vise grip.

    • @shameless6963
      @shameless6963 3 місяці тому +2

      Alot of people don't realize you can use the right size 12 pt. socket on square plugs, taps, etc.

  • @josephfriedrich9792
    @josephfriedrich9792 4 місяці тому +4

    Old video, but a socket fits over the square tap end

  • @hughjanus590
    @hughjanus590 Рік тому +7

    The tap got harder because npt is tapered

  • @slelliott14
    @slelliott14 2 місяці тому +4

    Get cutting oil, spit is literally better than wd for cutting threads

  • @LuisHernandez-cb7bp
    @LuisHernandez-cb7bp Рік тому +2

    I routed the hose between the cylinder heads back the other way away from the exhaust.

  • @ryanbassett2091
    @ryanbassett2091 Рік тому +1

    Nice video, look into a set of "tap sockets" they are made for this type of application.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! Another tool I didn't know existed, LOL!

    • @pauldeceglie6914
      @pauldeceglie6914 Рік тому +2

      An appropriate sized 12pt socket can also work in a pinch

  • @alalvarez6026
    @alalvarez6026 Рік тому +1

    Looks great nice clean job well donr

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      Thanks! I just made some improvements to it and I'm going to post a follow up vid soon.

  • @MrGerryoc
    @MrGerryoc 8 місяців тому +1

    You answered your own question its a tapered tap ie gets larger the deepen it goes

  • @stevedotworld
    @stevedotworld Рік тому

    The Vice grip method is also what I came to as well. The Loctite was a nice insurance tip. I made my own catch can from a billet fuel filter I modified. Now I don’t have to make this video.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      You never know when you'll need a pair of vice grips! How did you seal off the oil passages in the backplate?

  • @tomedwards159
    @tomedwards159 Рік тому

    tap socket.... it is an adapter that you use with a ratchet.

  • @ranbymonkeys2384
    @ranbymonkeys2384 Рік тому +1

    It gets tighter because of the taper.

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Рік тому

      @@edwardfaris8516 No he had to use that tap if he didn't the fitting would have only gone in the threads about 1 or 2 threads. Casting on the other hand you can pretty much tap it with a bolt, haha.

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Рік тому

      @@edwardfaris8516 It didn't appear that the fittings were tapered so would the tap then need to be?

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Рік тому

      @@edwardfaris8516 You might be able to get away with that with casting but no both sides are tapered.

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Рік тому

      @@edwardfaris8516 great

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Рік тому

      @@edwardfaris8516 If thats the case it will seal after the first 3 threads no matter how many threads were cut. If you look at your die it will also be tapered for the lead cuts.

  • @jonhopkins1284
    @jonhopkins1284 Рік тому

    I have 60k miles no issues

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      I hope that continues to be the case. Just curious, have you ever looked inside your cylinders with a camera? I'm not sure why carbon buildup happens on some more than others.

    • @paulhorvath9784
      @paulhorvath9784 Рік тому

      Would be interesting to see inside the cylinder head.

  • @petelanzone484
    @petelanzone484 Рік тому +6

    yeah definitely do a catch can.. oil dripping in front of rear wheel .. not such a good idea. no matter how little it is.. ;)

  • @oilageman9883
    @oilageman9883 23 дні тому +1

    I just keep my oil half way on the dip stick while cold, on my Dyna and I NEVER get oil in my air filter.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  23 дні тому +1

      Same here. The primary purpose of the bypass is to prevent oil mist from being pulled back into the engine. Even with a lower oil level, there is still some oil pulled back in.

  • @johnjohnson2855
    @johnjohnson2855 8 місяців тому +4

    Bring that hose in between the V and out the other side. And hose and barbs don’t need to be that big. Smaller hoses work better.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  8 місяців тому +2

      I had smaller barbs and hose on a different bike, it seemed to work OK. What I did here seems to be the more common size. I did make some changes to the routing and posted that in a later video.

  • @t.s.racing
    @t.s.racing Рік тому +4

    2 tips Sir.
    1: don't use carbon steel taps, a few dollars more for a H.S.S. or high speed steel tap, and you have one that will last much longer and perform better.
    2 : for the record, tap and machine cast iron - dry. Do not use a lubricant or cutting oil on cast iron.
    This in response to your statement in the video about tapping metals.
    For those concerned about the silicone, if you are able to tap the holes, use what's called a grub screw or socket head set screw. I believe they're a 10- 24 or 10- 32 thread. Apologies I'm not in the shop right now to be specific.
    I hope this helps 🙏

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      Hey, thanks for this. The backing plate is aluminum though.

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Рік тому

      wanna know a little secret: come here, closer, I'm a MASTER MACHINIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Рік тому

      I've tapped more holes than you can count.

    • @gaknskk
      @gaknskk Рік тому

      Instead of silicone I used set screws with red locktite 4 years ago with no problems.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      @@gaknskk I might do that one day 👍

  • @mark-1234
    @mark-1234 4 місяці тому +2

    It's a pipe tap. It will get harder as you go deeper.

  • @zeus9855
    @zeus9855 2 дні тому

    That really was the hard way to modify the engine venting issue but each to there own.

  • @ricardopr54
    @ricardopr54 2 дні тому

    Get a Metric bike, and you'll never have to deal with that kind of crap💩

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  2 дні тому

      @@ricardopr54 That's a hard pass my friend!

  • @lawrencebrandt8448
    @lawrencebrandt8448 Рік тому +3

    don't complain about it being a pain you did it with out a vice and much experience , good job .

  • @zoltanbalogh9325
    @zoltanbalogh9325 Рік тому +3

    Next time you use an npt tap go out and buy a npt reamer. After drilling the hole to size ream it with the tapered npt reamer. This will give the hole the correct tapered shape and will allow you to hand tap with ease.

  • @montekrueger7330
    @montekrueger7330 Рік тому +2

    for a cleaner and safer look ,route hose between cylinders and straight down between motor case and transmission and secure on frame also install a small uni filter on end of hose instead of catch can

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      Yeah I'm already thinking about this. I like as little visible as possible.

  • @jackk687
    @jackk687 Рік тому +2

    Very well explained. I like that you listed all the parts used. Many youtubers don't do that. I think the clamps you used would work also well for other hoses on the Harley Engine. They look very well made and will not dig into rubber hoses or come loose.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      Thanks Jack. I really like those clamps compared to the single screw hose clamp.

  • @class3333
    @class3333 5 місяців тому +1

    Great vid. One small suggestion: when you were screwing in the brass fittings, a set of ratcheting wrenches would have made that a snap vs. an open box wrench.

  • @ardyrides834
    @ardyrides834 Рік тому +1

    As you said, the NPT (National Pipe Thread tap) is tapered, it is not meant to be tapped into the material all the way in, but rather in enough to allow for the treaded fitting you plan to install.
    I have an Arlen Ness Big Sucker air cleaner assembly on my 2012 StreetGlide, and I did a very similar mod. to my Bike. I used fuel line hose, black ty-raps and routed the drain line fwd and down behind my fwd motor mount. I also ty-rapped a piece of cloth on the end of the tube (instead of a filter or catch can). It works great and almost invisible. I check everything including the air filter at each oil change. So far so good.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      Awesome! I ended up redoing my routing much better. I'm going to post an update video soon.

  • @okinawadonkichi
    @okinawadonkichi Рік тому +1

    Looks good. I did the same on my FLHTK but chose to go forward to a catch can instead of back. I used stainless rubber lined loom clamps attached to the front cylinder lifter cover to keep the hose from touching any part of the engine or exhaust, then routed the hose down over the back of the rear brake master cylinder (slight pain to route the hose) so that I could mount the DK catch can off of the back bolt of the rear brake master cylinder. I replaced the rear bolt with a 1 1/2 inch bolt, used a 1/2" steel spacer and another loom clamp to hang the catch can off set from touching any part of the bike. Used a dremel to clean up the loom clamps and shape them to fit nicely on the lifter cover so that there will be no scratching of the chrome.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      You spent more time on it than I did!

  • @jamescollins5073
    @jamescollins5073 Рік тому +1

    Nice vid, been curious about this mod on my 21 bob with the 114, but as far as using grips, Amazon sells special sockets just for the tap. Plus you can also slide some stainless steel hose rap so the exhaust doesn't melt the hose.

  • @lm4tuna0461
    @lm4tuna0461 Рік тому +1

    I really need to do this on my 2016 Softail Slim S but I’m INSANELY INTIMIDATED by the drilling & tapping process!😬😬 You made it look very easy, has there been any issues after using the bike?

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      No issues. I bet if you took the backing plate and the parts to a machine shop, they would do it while you wait, and it would not be very expensive.

  • @kennywisemansr.2323
    @kennywisemansr.2323 Рік тому +1

    What brand air filter is that ? Good lookin air cleaner
    . I did a external breather on my trike and routed the line on right front side of the frame away from the exhaust using a catch can. Great video !

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      Thank you! Screamin' Eagle Ventilator with a K&N element.

  • @arthurjock4179
    @arthurjock4179 4 місяці тому +1

    Use a t handle for the tap.

  • @jamesmailly7990
    @jamesmailly7990 26 днів тому

    On pipe thread use pipe dope , teflon tape, or … what I choose is NEVER SEIZE!!

  • @ToesCapuano
    @ToesCapuano Рік тому +1

    Here is what I don't get. If you can ventilate pressure at the top of the case, why not just do that and plug the vent holes on the bolt???? I'm so misinformed by what the appropriate ventilation method is.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      I'm not understanding...how you would ventilate pressure at the top of the case? The rocker covers seal the top end. The engine has to relieve pressure somehow, hence the breathers.

    • @robbyclark6915
      @robbyclark6915 Рік тому +1

      Just buy an air breather from DK customs that’s already set up for an external breather system.
      I just drilled holes in the backing of my breather plate, ran 1/4” fuel line off the stock banjo bolts (or whatever they are called?) ran the line out the holes I drilled into a Tee, and then down by the bottom of the engine and let it vent there instead of into my breather intake.
      Check out a video from “Infamous Creep” channel on how he did it. That’s who I copied. Super easy and works great

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      @robbyclark6915 There's many ways to go. I did the mod you describe on my Dyna, but the Touring doesn't have the same style bolts to do this. I also like the look of the Ventilator better than what DK has.

  • @toddhaakenson6301
    @toddhaakenson6301 Рік тому +2

    You can use a 12 point socket on that tap.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      Good to know for anybody reading here, thanks. I made more of a project out of it than I needed to.

  • @gerry6310
    @gerry6310 Рік тому +1

    Looks good, I would use a catch can though. The O2 sensors get pretty hot

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      I don't follow you. What does the heat of the O2 sensors have to do with using a catch can?

    • @gerry6310
      @gerry6310 Рік тому

      @@bluesriderDF in your video you have the drain line next to the 02 sensors

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      @@gerry6310 Gotcha. I've since rerouted it and used a braided stainless steel line. Follow up video going up soon.

  • @aircamry
    @aircamry 9 місяців тому +1

    Did this and oil sprayed all over the back tire don’t understand why so much oil coming out redid the rocker

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  9 місяців тому +1

      Wow, that doesn't sound right. Since I don't know you, don't be insulted if you already know what I'm going to say. You should check your oil level when the bike is hot, about a minute or two after you turn it off, with the bike on the side stand.
      The level should be in the middle of the range on the stick.
      If the oil level is too high it will expel it. If that's not an issue, then try posting on hdforums.
      My breather bypass puts out a couple drops of oil per ride, if that.

    • @aircamry
      @aircamry 9 місяців тому +1

      @@bluesriderDF thank you I normally put it at the top range of the arrow so that means I did over fill the bike, I thought I might have tear down the rocker top and buy new breathers again

    • @johnjohnson2855
      @johnjohnson2855 8 місяців тому +2

      If you over fill oil level or just at full mark engine spits more oil. I keep my oil level right at 3/4 and it rarely spits anything.

  • @jodyhodge2129
    @jodyhodge2129 Рік тому +1

    Added catch can to your exact breather. Tried to let the catch can hang under breather but it wound up scuffing the powder coat on my case. Rerouted it down and behind my voltage regulator. I have more water in my can than oil. Good bit of water vapor til engine gets hot.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      I had the same concern about a catch can scratching things up. I'm going to redo the hose routing but it's definitely going to the ground.

    • @freebehindbars8654
      @freebehindbars8654 Рік тому

      I went with a reusable filter mounted under the SGS, just a hose on the Sportster. Completely hidden and lower maintenance than a small catch can.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      @freebehindbars8654 I had a filter like that on my Low Rider. But I just changed it straight to ground.

    • @freebehindbars8654
      @freebehindbars8654 Рік тому

      @@bluesriderDF That’s how I have the Sportster. That M8 stage 3 has more head pressure, so I didn’t want to mark up my garage.

    • @garyboriskin5603
      @garyboriskin5603 Рік тому

      I'm getting rid of catch can for a filter. Catch can gets filled with water from the vapor, and already is pretty rusted.

  • @trinibobfjr
    @trinibobfjr 7 місяців тому

    I appreciate your video. It’s more specific to the needs of my street glide special with the screaming eagle air cleaner on it. I’ll be looking at your other videos for advice. Thanks again.

  • @JamesSmith-qx2mz
    @JamesSmith-qx2mz 7 місяців тому

    I did something similar but had a machinist do it. I had them weld up the oil channels to the intake so I don’t have to worry about anything being sucked in through those. It’s a K&N back plate.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  7 місяців тому +2

      I got some better tools since I did this job. 😂

  • @markpalumbo129
    @markpalumbo129 25 днів тому

    If you don’t like the hose look, they do make different color wraps to go over that so it looks better

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  24 дні тому

      @@markpalumbo129 I don't even notice it now, honestly. I'm just glad that gunk isn't going in my engine.

  • @Americanpatriot602
    @Americanpatriot602 4 місяці тому +3

    I put the tap in my drill and just go real slow with the variable speed trigger! I’ve done this for years at work and it works well! Also,, i use a wax stick to keep the threads lubed! Just be careful to not go fast or the tap will break!

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  4 місяці тому

      Wow, I don't think I'll try that!

    • @Americanpatriot602
      @Americanpatriot602 4 місяці тому

      @@bluesriderDF - most won’t! But i will say, I probably tap about 50 / 100 holes a day and haven’t had an issue in so long I can’t remember the last time i did.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  4 місяці тому

      ​@@Americanpatriot602 I've probably tapped less than 10 holes in my life 😂

    • @Americanpatriot602
      @Americanpatriot602 4 місяці тому

      @@bluesriderDF - 😂🤣 to each their own my friend! Just trying to help! At least you got it done! 👍🏼

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  4 місяці тому +1

      @Americanpatriot602 Oh I really appreciate your comments and experience, very helpful. The very first time I ever tapped something was redoing threads on an intake manifold on my car, when I was about 20yo. The bolts for the thermostat housing snapped. I was about crapping myself!
      This is just one of those things. I don't do often enough to get very good at.

  • @manny1470
    @manny1470 Рік тому

    NPT is a tapered thread. Starts small gets bigger. That's why it gets tighter. Turned out great. Nice job

  • @VeraDancy
    @VeraDancy 3 місяці тому

    Use a cresent wrench.

  • @joefrias
    @joefrias 8 місяців тому

    I like your style and funny the Exxon Valdez pun 😂

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  8 місяців тому

      LOL, thanks! I try to bring a little humor to things when I can.

  • @ronchase474
    @ronchase474 Рік тому

    They make long shank taps, might be worth the investment.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      There's an endless supply of tools, LOL

  • @two-up
    @two-up Рік тому

    Hi great material very nice mounted ;)

  • @brandonbarber7195
    @brandonbarber7195 Рік тому

    You should have used Chrome hose that you could tuck

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      Yes, I'm already thinking about what I'm going to improve.

  • @vs1Houston
    @vs1Houston Рік тому

    Nicely done! Thank you for the video.

  • @chip9832
    @chip9832 Рік тому

    I have a 14 sgs . with Arlen Ness big sucker. Never had oil issues. But I also have 2020 lrs with s s intake...now I have oil blow by issue. About to get vented dipstick.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +2

      Even if you don't have oil on your filter, it's still sucking that oil in and eventually fouling your pistons and valves with carbon

    • @chip9832
      @chip9832 Рік тому

      @@bluesriderDF Iv used a scope to see how much carbon on piston (via plug hole) the sgs has some dry ,thin ,in center of piston.55 k ...but the 2020 lrs has more carbon and wet looking. 15 k .

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      @chip9832 I've done that too, it varies from bike to bike. I'm glad I got my SGS done before I got too many more miles on it.

    • @gaknskk
      @gaknskk Рік тому

      @@bluesriderDF and the hot air robbing you of horse power

  • @dannyarendall5233
    @dannyarendall5233 Рік тому

    Did u use the correct tap drill size

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      Yes sir. The taper is the cause of it.

  • @albertperez2743
    @albertperez2743 Рік тому

    What size brass fittings were they ?

  • @chrisgaskill7923
    @chrisgaskill7923 Рік тому

    Dk customs makes a transformer plate done in minutes....

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      Is that the $225 Transformer System?

    • @chrisgaskill7923
      @chrisgaskill7923 Рік тому

      Yes it is . Definitely pricey but worry free of screwing up !

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      @Chris Gaskill I prefer the looks of the Screamin' Eagle intakes I have on my bikes, but DK is a good option for a bolt-on solution. A lot of people already have the SE and just want to vent it

    • @ronniesaunders940
      @ronniesaunders940 Рік тому

      I've been thinking about get the DK Transformer the only thing that is stopping me is they say that you have to use their air cleaner which a K&N and I already have a K&N but DK said My K&N Would not work. Looks exactly the same flat back and all. And that's what they say they're is. SMH

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      @Ronnie Saunders One option to do this mod without all the hassle is to take your backing plate and fittings to a machine shop. In addition to cutting threads for the fittings, you could have them cut threads in the existing oil passage ways and then you could install plugs with red lock tight to seal them up. I can't imagine they would charge that much.

  • @michaelsodano616
    @michaelsodano616 Рік тому

    Is it catching anything?

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому

      I'm venting to ground. I get a drop or 2 on the garage floor every once in a while.
      Check this vid:
      ua-cam.com/video/nrhJC6ibxFI/v-deo.htmlsi=FouzuDEWE6L9zUCw

  • @richard6606
    @richard6606 Рік тому +3

    Instead of squeezing silicone into the passages tap the holes same as you did holes you drilled and put in screws or headless Allen screws with lock tight

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +1

      I ended up replacing the silicone with JB Weld.

    • @richard6606
      @richard6606 Рік тому

      @@bluesriderDF ya better than silicone for sure

  • @jeffbradley7755
    @jeffbradley7755 6 місяців тому +1

    A good bit of oil means you have too much oil in the bike.

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  6 місяців тому +4

      "A good bit of oil" in this context was a few drops, which is normal and expected when the oil level is midway between the hash marks on the stick, checked a couple minutes after turning off a hot bike.
      So no, you are not correct that there was too much oil on the bike.

    • @slelliott14
      @slelliott14 2 місяці тому +1

      Not true

  • @beastieboy3926
    @beastieboy3926 Рік тому

    Yep,good mod. Only problem could be breaks the laws on emissions in some countries.

  • @michaelbobb7974
    @michaelbobb7974 Рік тому +1

    Dk customs has a nice breather kit
    I like the charcoal pearl color I got the same

  • @raymunchieftain4170
    @raymunchieftain4170 Рік тому

    Great work and great solution.

  • @muddirt8040
    @muddirt8040 Рік тому +1

    Why would you not just replace bolt with no holes. So oil stays in engine. And not exit anything

    • @bluesriderDF
      @bluesriderDF  Рік тому +5

      This is a breather, and if it were clogged or sealed up, the pressure would increase and blow out oil seals, such as rocker gaskets. The engine can also overheat and misfire.