Neal ,you struck another "Home-run". On describing the "Differences" on the "LX Series" of tractors. Always GREAT Information. Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio and happy safe tractoring. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
We traded in our LX2610 ROPS for an LX3520 ROPS. It’s a huge step up. The auto-throttle is great. But with it, you need the RPM preset function in order to use the 540E PTO and not over-speed the PTO. Takes a bit of getting used to, then is fabulous. We wanted the higher horsepower to drive a WoodMaxx chipper we already had (which worked on the LX2610, but was limited to size of material it could consume without impacting the tractor RPMs). The hydraulic remote kits, both front 3rd function, and dual rear remotes have 1/2” hydraulic couplers. The kit for the LX2610 rear remotes was 1/4” couplers mounted way in underneath on the ROPS version, and a major pain. The wider front axle makes a huge difference on our property, where we have some fairly steep hills that one must turn to the side from the downhill. It’s much less concerning now. We did have rear spacers added as well (we had them on the LX2610 also). I will say, I like not having black clouds coming out of the exhaust. And while the regen takes some getting used to, it’s not a huge deal, and worth the horsepower trade off.
ive been complaining about how loud my 2610 was for like 4 years lol, happy to hear theyve finally fixed that. Excited to get in one here soon, hopefully!
Have an L3130, 2004 model. The hydro makes almost no noise unless really being worked. Had thought something was wrong with a friend's brand new tractor having become used to the quietness.
I e been around the hydro tractors and surprised at the whine noise they create. Makes me appreciate my gear drive for sure. But then again, after a day of front end loader work, my left leg is wobbly from working the clutch. I use the loader to move things frequently and not an issue, but moving large piles of material is a workout.
I've never been bothered by the hydro whine of my 2650, but I always wear hearing pro (work-tunes) no matter what I'm doing whether it be cutting the lawn on the JD, blowing leaves, or weed whacking.
Nice changes but still have a fuel filler on top of the hood and still no external 3pt control mechanism? Deere and Kioti have had them for years. Telescoping arms do help somewhat and a QH doesn't always work on older implements. The latter (external 3pt and tractor control) and lack of a rocker pedal for control are one of the few reasons that I have been looking at the 4R model Deeres and I own 5 Kubota pieces of equipment from compact on up in size. Can be a challenge changing out implements solo.
We have a 3560 Grand L open station. They are a bigger frame and the heavier loader is great for our needs. Also, it doesn't have the traditional treadle peddle. I think the LX stull uses the traditional treadle peddle.
My property is literally on the side of a mountain and, while I love my BX-23S, it can get scarry when I traverse the slope with any sort of a load. You spoke of wheel-spacers, so I'm wondering if they might be a solution for me.......................
I’m in the same place, got wheel spacers, can’t say if they make a big difference but I’m now very careful where I take the tractor after I put it on its side once. Only up and down steep slopes. Maybe I’ll get a clinometer and stay within safe limits.
They do offer wheel spacers for the BX series, you can also get wheel weights, and/or fill the rear tires....one thing on the BX series, and possibly others is the front axle pivots in the middle, so it makes the whole machine more tippy on slopes.
We had a BX1860 when we moved to our present property. It was way overmatched. The LX2610 was far better, but a challenge when I needed to go across the hill slopes. And the whine on the LX2610 was substantial. Love the LX3520’s wider stance. We did add rear spacers to it, which no doubt helps some, and gives us the option of tire chains in the winter.
Wheel spacers made a hug difference for me. I don't push the limits but if I find myself in an uncomfortable situation I will lower the backhoe arms a little off the ground (if mounted) until I can get of out of it.
HAHA, I was thinking the same thing. Although I think the lift capacity of the loader isn't going to be enough for what he does, but then again he's got a skid steer and a mini-skid steer so maybe wouldn't be an issue. IDK, he's got so many toys....err pieces of equipment, I sometimes wonder how he gets anything done....I'd be out there going, well which machine am I gonna go play with today LOL.
Are there any tire companies that make soft rubber compound tires for compact and sub compact tractors better suited for winter use if a person planned to use one for snow removal on private driveways without using chains?
@@MustangsTrainsMowers We use R14 tires on our LX, without chains, even on the steep (paved) driveway. 60” blower on the rear, 72” blade on the front. Steering brakes are essential.
Neal, how can I contact you about a question of mine that may make a good video for your channel? A friend of mine and myself are working on converting our tractors to SSQA and are going through the process. Maybe we can share some of our information to aide a video to help others.
Neil's just gonna tell you that you gotta buy a new tractor with SSQA LOL....JK...that would be an interesting video...my tractor has the SSQA already, but I'm actually curious as to what all goes into that VS the pin on bucket....I know there's the SSQA bracket, but what all has to be changed out on the end of the loader to put an SSQA on?
@wildbill23c no one makes an adapter for my tractor or my friends tractor. We are hoping with our question, that we can help many other folks upgrade their machinery. And maybe buy new loader attachments from messicks.
The BX series, B series, LX, and L series all have mechanical fuel injection on the 26HP and smaller engines....but then I'm not really sure why you'd bother getting the larger tractor frame sizes if you don't want a larger HP engine at that point LOL. I have the Kubota BX2680...plenty of power for a sub-compact tractor, I run out of traction before a run out of power LOL....but if I were going into something like the LX or the L series I'd want to be in the 30+ HP range I'd think.
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So what you're telling us is, that to go from a 2620 to a 3520 is a 43% increase in the price because of emissions? Hope all of you are paying attention. There's no way the next size up tractor puts out that much more harmful emissions. It's insane we are being taken advantage like this and no one seems in know.
You were not paying attention. A diesel particulate muffler system counts for only a portion of the price difference. It is Horsepower, transmission and pto upgrades plus a wider front loader and bucket that further increase performance and price.
In addition to jamesmisener3006 points the kubota website specs show 3pt lift at 2139 lbs for the lx2620 and 2535 lbs for a lx3520. Also hydraulic flow goes from 8.7 to 9.5.
We traded in our LX2610 ROPS for an LX3520 ROPS. It’s a huge step up. The auto-throttle is great. But with it, you need the RPM preset function in order to use the 540E PTO and not over-speed the PTO. Takes a bit of getting used to, then is fabulous. We wanted the higher horsepower to drive a WoodMaxx chipper we already had (which worked on the LX2610, but was limited to size of material it could consume without impacting the tractor RPMs). The hydraulic remote kits, both front 3rd function, and dual rear remotes have 1/2” hydraulic couplers. The kit for the LX2610 rear remotes was 1/4” couplers mounted way in underneath on the ROPS version, and a major pain. The wider front axle makes a huge difference on our property, where we have some fairly steep hills that one must turn to the side from the downhill. It’s much less concerning now. We did have rear spacers added as well (we had them on the LX2610 also). I will say, I like not having black clouds coming out of the exhaust. And while the regen takes some getting used to, it’s not a huge deal, and worth the horsepower trade off.
Neal ,you struck another "Home-run". On describing the "Differences" on the "LX Series" of tractors. Always GREAT Information. Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio and happy safe tractoring. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
We traded in our LX2610 ROPS for an LX3520 ROPS. It’s a huge step up. The auto-throttle is great. But with it, you need the RPM preset function in order to use the 540E PTO and not over-speed the PTO. Takes a bit of getting used to, then is fabulous. We wanted the higher horsepower to drive a WoodMaxx chipper we already had (which worked on the LX2610, but was limited to size of material it could consume without impacting the tractor RPMs). The hydraulic remote kits, both front 3rd function, and dual rear remotes have 1/2” hydraulic couplers. The kit for the LX2610 rear remotes was 1/4” couplers mounted way in underneath on the ROPS version, and a major pain. The wider front axle makes a huge difference on our property, where we have some fairly steep hills that one must turn to the side from the downhill. It’s much less concerning now. We did have rear spacers added as well (we had them on the LX2610 also). I will say, I like not having black clouds coming out of the exhaust. And while the regen takes some getting used to, it’s not a huge deal, and worth the horsepower trade off.
ive been complaining about how loud my 2610 was for like 4 years lol, happy to hear theyve finally fixed that. Excited to get in one here soon, hopefully!
Hmmm. That new LX4020 with a cab wouldn't be going to Mr. Mike Morgan, would it?
I have the LX3520 and love everything about it.
Great info! The 540e PTO is a really nice feature. And that wider loader stance on the larger hp versions is a good idea.
Love my LX 3310 cab model, thanks for the video
Mike Morgan beat me to it! I was going to comment that there is a Kubota lover out there who was enamored with his 4020.💪
Have an L3130, 2004 model. The hydro makes almost no noise unless really being worked. Had thought something was wrong with a friend's brand new tractor having become used to the quietness.
I e been around the hydro tractors and surprised at the whine noise they create. Makes me appreciate my gear drive for sure. But then again, after a day of front end loader work, my left leg is wobbly from working the clutch. I use the loader to move things frequently and not an issue, but moving large piles of material is a workout.
I've never been bothered by the hydro whine of my 2650, but I always wear hearing pro (work-tunes) no matter what I'm doing whether it be cutting the lawn on the JD, blowing leaves, or weed whacking.
Nice changes but still have a fuel filler on top of the hood and still no external 3pt control mechanism? Deere and Kioti have had them for years. Telescoping arms do help somewhat and a QH doesn't always work on older implements. The latter (external 3pt and tractor control) and lack of a rocker pedal for control are one of the few reasons that I have been looking at the 4R model Deeres and I own 5 Kubota pieces of equipment from compact on up in size. Can be a challenge changing out implements solo.
These tractors are way too small for these things. This is the size of a small Deere 3 series.
I'd be interested to see a comparison of the LX4020 vs the L3560LE. Similiar capabilities and pricing but looks like different frames.
I just looked that up. The LX4020 is about $2k more than the 3560LE and $2k less than the 4060LE
We have a 3560 Grand L open station. They are a bigger frame and the heavier loader is great for our needs. Also, it doesn't have the traditional treadle peddle. I think the LX stull uses the traditional treadle peddle.
Very informative video Neil. I enjoyed it. Thanks
I like that 4020
I have a feeling I know who might be getting that one! Haha
Are there any good comparisons of the LX 4020HST to the L3902HST, both without cabs.
Got here from Morgan's channel
I can appreciate trying to record in all that noise, lol. It's an everyday problem for me to find a quiet place to record.
My property is literally on the side of a mountain and, while I love my BX-23S, it can get scarry when I traverse the slope with any sort of a load.
You spoke of wheel-spacers, so I'm wondering if they might be a solution for me.......................
I’m in the same place, got wheel spacers, can’t say if they make a big difference but I’m now very careful where I take the tractor after I put it on its side once. Only up and down steep slopes. Maybe I’ll get a clinometer and stay within safe limits.
They do offer wheel spacers for the BX series, you can also get wheel weights, and/or fill the rear tires....one thing on the BX series, and possibly others is the front axle pivots in the middle, so it makes the whole machine more tippy on slopes.
We had a BX1860 when we moved to our present property. It was way overmatched. The LX2610 was far better, but a challenge when I needed to go across the hill slopes. And the whine on the LX2610 was substantial. Love the LX3520’s wider stance. We did add rear spacers to it, which no doubt helps some, and gives us the option of tire chains in the winter.
Wheel spacers made a hug difference for me. I don't push the limits but if I find myself in an uncomfortable situation I will lower the backhoe arms a little off the ground (if mounted) until I can get of out of it.
I am going to take a wild guess that one of those LX4020's is heading to PA for Mike with Outdoors with the Morgans?
I was thinking the same thing
HAHA, I was thinking the same thing. Although I think the lift capacity of the loader isn't going to be enough for what he does, but then again he's got a skid steer and a mini-skid steer so maybe wouldn't be an issue. IDK, he's got so many toys....err pieces of equipment, I sometimes wonder how he gets anything done....I'd be out there going, well which machine am I gonna go play with today LOL.
@@wildbill23c It's hard to get anything done when you're focus is on e-begging for free sh*t.
Are there any tire companies that make soft rubber compound tires for compact and sub compact tractors better suited for winter use if a person planned to use one for snow removal on private driveways without using chains?
No, but Nokian tires are highly regarded for snow if you can find them in this size.
@@MustangsTrainsMowers We use R14 tires on our LX, without chains, even on the steep (paved) driveway. 60” blower on the rear, 72” blade on the front. Steering brakes are essential.
Why would you put the PTO knob right where it could accidentally be engaged?
Twisting turns it on. Pressing it turns it off
What’s the difference between a 2601 vs 2620?
Neal, how can I contact you about a question of mine that may make a good video for your channel? A friend of mine and myself are working on converting our tractors to SSQA and are going through the process. Maybe we can share some of our information to aide a video to help others.
youtube@messicks.com
@@MessicksEquip thank you!
Neil's just gonna tell you that you gotta buy a new tractor with SSQA LOL....JK...that would be an interesting video...my tractor has the SSQA already, but I'm actually curious as to what all goes into that VS the pin on bucket....I know there's the SSQA bracket, but what all has to be changed out on the end of the loader to put an SSQA on?
@wildbill23c no one makes an adapter for my tractor or my friends tractor. We are hoping with our question, that we can help many other folks upgrade their machinery. And maybe buy new loader attachments from messicks.
is there one KU-BOATER that has mech. fuel injection?
everything under 26Hp
The BX series, B series, LX, and L series all have mechanical fuel injection on the 26HP and smaller engines....but then I'm not really sure why you'd bother getting the larger tractor frame sizes if you don't want a larger HP engine at that point LOL.
I have the Kubota BX2680...plenty of power for a sub-compact tractor, I run out of traction before a run out of power LOL....but if I were going into something like the LX or the L series I'd want to be in the 30+ HP range I'd think.
Cool
,If you like all . The wood Split the some size , . Here is a video you should look up on UA-cam.The title is.
"This will be the future of. Log splitting. I am calling it"
The best I can do.. Because you're Comment section . will not take links..
So what you're telling us is, that to go from a 2620 to a 3520 is a 43% increase in the price because of emissions? Hope all of you are paying attention. There's no way the next size up tractor puts out that much more harmful emissions. It's insane we are being taken advantage like this and no one seems in know.
You were not paying attention.
A diesel particulate muffler system counts for only a portion of the price difference. It is Horsepower, transmission and pto upgrades plus a wider front loader and bucket that further increase performance and price.
In addition to jamesmisener3006 points the kubota website specs show 3pt lift at 2139 lbs for the lx2620 and 2535 lbs for a lx3520. Also hydraulic flow goes from 8.7 to 9.5.
So what you are telling us is you have the attention span of a nat. 👌
Not only the DPF, but there also is common rail high pressure electronic fuel injection on emissions models to support the DPF.
@@jaxturner7288that quickly escalated.
WWMMD- What would Mike Morgan do? lol
He said "meat in the rear end"....Giggity
I find I stay cooler wearing an 'A' shirt undergarment, and it hides my leaky boobs. :P
Maybe too much information? Bless you…
That’s one of the ugliest loader joysticks on the market.
That’s not the kubota joystick, it is the landpride for third function. I agree it is ugly for what they charge
Kim Kardashian said it looks familiar.
We traded in our LX2610 ROPS for an LX3520 ROPS. It’s a huge step up. The auto-throttle is great. But with it, you need the RPM preset function in order to use the 540E PTO and not over-speed the PTO. Takes a bit of getting used to, then is fabulous. We wanted the higher horsepower to drive a WoodMaxx chipper we already had (which worked on the LX2610, but was limited to size of material it could consume without impacting the tractor RPMs). The hydraulic remote kits, both front 3rd function, and dual rear remotes have 1/2” hydraulic couplers. The kit for the LX2610 rear remotes was 1/4” couplers mounted way in underneath on the ROPS version, and a major pain. The wider front axle makes a huge difference on our property, where we have some fairly steep hills that one must turn to the side from the downhill. It’s much less concerning now. We did have rear spacers added as well (we had them on the LX2610 also). I will say, I like not having black clouds coming out of the exhaust. And while the regen takes some getting used to, it’s not a huge deal, and worth the horsepower trade off.