Subbed, I just started playing TWW haven't played retail since WoD. Came back to game to play HC classic and DD fresh. Having a blast. Playing my old chars sitting at lv 40, got warrior to 80 now hunter and lock. OG Hand of A'dal reppin. Thanks for the content!
Here’s a shot at some Warlock bugs: Demo: -Doom is only applying if you have more than 1 demonic core since the spell is checking for demonic core on hit -Impending Doom is not giving an imp on doom expiration -Foul mouth does not work at all/partially works. -Shadowtouched does not work at all/partially works -Houndmaster’s gambit does not work. -Improved demonic tactics do not work at all. -Demonic Brutality does not work at all. Class tree: Several bugs with healthstones. Demonic healthstones will dissapear once you hit a loading screen. I’m not too sure about the regular Healthstone bug, but it puts your Healthstone on cool down until you talent switch. Affliction: -Cull the weak doesn’t work at all -Malefic touch is doing pre-rework damage (it does not scale with mastery) Destruction: -Shadowburn is in an unbuffed state compared to beta which makes the entire shadowburn line of talents a dps loss to use. -Decimation is supposedly proccing less than it should be
I am a survival hunter and playing sentinel is hella fun. Not to mention that survival is tanky as hell now. I run Pack leader to make my pet immortal and it wont die. Im having a blast
I had the exact reverse feeling on warrior this expansion. I love how arms warrior is right now, massive execute damage, rapid short bursts because of 45 second blade storm, solid cleave damage excelling at two or three target fights, better utility with 12 seconds shockwave and not to mention a lot of self healing through pending victory and second wind. The only problem I have with it is that it does not have an immunity, everything else feels just about right.
Started out and geared to 590 as fury. But after I got some delves loot at 602 arms is giga with a good 2 hander. Slayers feels good, not far from fury, nice to be able to change up the play style. The Slayer build does not feel worse than DF arms, Flame has just tried collusus arms and called it a day.
@@Ribcut I agree totally, in mythic settings cleave damage is always desired, where as arms warrior’s excelled single target and priority damage would be much less desirable in most circumstances. As for getting invited into the group, you could always host a party yourself, so that wouldn’t be much of a problem.
Can't wait for hunter rework, I am still maining hunter with dark ranger hero talents, I don't care I love the thematic and I am having a blast doing delves and all the quests towards lore master 😊
Unholy is so fun for me, CDs are not so bad, I don't feel useless, but of course the most powerful thing about this class are transmogs. Second best for fun is WW monk, touch of death and movement is 10/10 Also it's weird for me that it's the first time ever that I like melee classes more than ranged ones.
I appreciate you mentioning Breath of Sindragosa on the Frost DK. The new additions to the spec via the hero talents have really solidified the spec, but BoS feels like it's bolted on and is trying to pull attention away from the things you want to be doing instead. I'd also add Chill Streak as just an awkward ability, but BoS should probably go at this point now that we have new options that feel better for the modern game. In terms of the class as a whole, the only thing that stands out as awkward is cleaving strikes. D&D becoming an aura could resolve that.
My main was up in war prot but I like war arms. I hesitate to play arms in main spec, I m afraid arms spec has some problems to be accepted in mythic+. I m like u, I like slayer hero talent 😊
I think arcane is better for delves than frost from what I've experienced. Honestly, I feel like it is easier to play and makes more sense / has a better flow. Haven't tried fire. Boomkin has been about the exact same since WOTLK... I will probably try feral soon so I can enjoy world content and delves more. Augmentation feels gross to play for me. I really don't like classes that their whole rotation revolves around a 2 minute cooldown. I want consistent damage and forgiveness when I get my teeth knocked out and have to pop defensives or I get CC'd. It's a horrible feeling sitting there just spamming long casts waiting for the CDs to come back up. Devastation seems decent, I didn't give it enough time to figure out, but I'm going to check that out again.
Ret pally is def one of my favorite. I’m pulling 900k-1.2m overall consistently. The heals are nice with eternal flame. Players are sleeping on the pally tree with dawn light. Thanks! Tanking wise it’s def BDK for me. And healing can’t go wrong with holy priest. But a mix between priest and holy pally. I’m really diggin the new trees and damage, and playstyles!
I base stat of haste is 16%. When I use wake of ashes and have 10 stacks of crusade, lust and pi. I’ve tested it a few times, my max haste I’ve gotten up to is 174% haste for about 15 seconds. And boy that dps flies when it’s all up like that.
Wow I have had a radically opposite experience with Arms. It feels to me the best it ever has, and I am usually at the very top of the meters with it in any content.
I just love that Arcane is smooth now it requires a little set up but the pay off is worth it. Glad Radiant Spark is gone. Final note on meteorite for Sunfury it does a lot of damage but it's so slow most of the time it triggers my target is dead before they crash.
I'm loving Enhance, but the amount of buttons are just nuts, also liking Fury and its looking like it might be my main until the anniversary update streamlines things for enhance a bit
Evoker buffs should have actual clear visuals around the character who is buffed. It would make the buffing part much more fun and rewarding. Right now it feels like you are pressing button that does nothing even tho it does alot. Also we need more support specs. Turn enhance to actual enhance and make it to second buffing spec that uses weapon imbues and totems to give short buffs for the team and focus on autoattack dmg while buffing itself and party (no active attack skills, just autoattack dmg with self buffs).
Agreed. I like the idea of support spec, but they didn't install the UI for it. I hit prescience I have no idea if it's actually doing anything on my team mate.
@@ObmChris Pretty much only way you can know that your buffs did anything is by using details dmg meter. It shows Aug "support" amount with the dps. Making UI for the Aug buffs and support abilities is so easy that even users can do that with simple addons/WA but there should definitely be actual buff effects on the player models so they can also clearly see when they have been buffed.
Druid hero talents just show so little thought man…why no empowered forms, even like with Druid of the claw to turn into a empowered cat form with visual change, or a different bear form that deals heavy damage on their maul or mangle when you have a proc, an empowered tree form to heal assist or a different moon kin form to add variety. Wildstalker to have vines crawling around your cat and latching onto enemy’s. Instead….nothing?
Fire is so fun. ,but not even getting invited into stuff playing it lol with arcane doing atleast 200% more dmg for now:( hope they tune it soon, so much more fun
Lol "Id like Dracthyr a lot more if i didn't have to look at it". Thankfully soon we can play as the race as other classes and NOT have to be in dragon form, because I do like the idea of not needing a mount other than the occasional ground mount
Slayer fury is awesome and not only that but mountain thane feels incredible to play in aoe as well. If they could just give it something to be more competitive in ST id be so hyped. This is probably the most fun ive ever had playing warrior and ive been a war main since dec 2004
Hello guys. Witch class/spec will be good choice for beginner in wow ? I like mele dps play style so i was thinking about try to tank but i am not sure if its not to much for beginner.
Am I the only one who can't get consistent damage on enhancement? Sometimes I blow up the meters in mythic...other times I'm fighting with tank for lowest dps....I think enhancement needs to be looked at for complexity
@@grahamsutcliffe7383 yah I do, can't stand people that want every spec to have the skill ceiling of bm, easy specs are there for people who want an easier game. it's lazy to demand a spec be neutered down, because someone can't deal with "complexity"
It’s a surprise to me but I seem to almost like the opposite of flame now. I don’t really like mage and subtlety I can’t stand. The good news is the list still works, I just need to reverse it lol
I was to main evoker had it geared and ready for the reset, and then I went to try Spriest.... And I have been playing Spriest since and ditched the Evoker. They are not the best but I am in love.
There is something about Havoc that isn’t doing it for me. Even though they’ve remained the same for the most part, the damage feels wonky. It could feel better at max level, but I feel like my Eye Beam and Blade Dance don’t really do much damage. When I look at the meters, most my damage comes from other things. Maybe it’s always been like that and I’m just mistaken but I swear those buttons used to feel really impactful. With most of my damage coming from the Immolation Aura DoT and some other DoT I can’t recall off the top of my head, I just don’t feel the same way playing the class as I did in DF. Hopefully Unholy is a bit more up my alley.
I have found boomkin to be very fun but it feels clunky. I can see the bones are there for an amazingly fun and rewarding. I have started a second druid to try feral to level 70 (I have yet to buy the xpack and likely won't until winter). I have only ever played healer or boomkin as a druid, so its time to try feral. I have found hunter to just plain suck and is boring, which is sad becuase I have always played hunter or at least had one or two at max level for farming and pvp. Warrior is fun. I love warriors and found it to be great with both fury and arms. Mage is stupid fun, I have decided to level a freshly made character to enjoy my time longer with the class. DK is as frost has been boring so far, I think unholy is so much more fun and fluid. Shaman, wow wow wow! What a fun class as elemental. I plan to level one as enhancement next. Rogue was okay and fun enough, but not enough fun to play another. Priest, as shadow, has been fun enough to finish leveling to 70 and have him ready for when I do buy the xpac. Demon Hunter was very fun and easy to level. I will likely pvp with him on the side when bored later in the xpac. That is all I have played so far. I have not played retail until the War Within. I think its been nearly five years so I am a bit rusty. My goal is to have two of every class, one class on each faction and then after buying the expansion is when I'll decide on my main class. Especially if there are some big changes coming in the next couple months.
So you main the Mage right now? Fire right? I dunno what to go with, Enhancement seems really cool but i can't make the rotation click for me. Fire Mage seems more in my tempo to be honest, but he's weak atm, or at least that what everyone is telling me, dunno how he'll be in 20th Anniversary Patch.
EDIT: LMAO and I was correct. I haven't even watched the video yet or played the new expansion. but as a Frost DK fan since it's first edition in WotLK I already know Frost dk will be bottom tier. Its like a WoW tradition. I don't know why Blizzard hates Frost DK so much lmao. Its basically always the spec you level with until you hit max and switch to Unholy.
is there a way to play fire mage within being so far behind ? i really love that spec but all my fury friends and other top tier class get like 900k dps not in burst and I have to work for it so much lol.. i rarelly see myself top dps ...
The problem with rogues has existed for as long as I've played WoW. There are always bugs, and Blizzard doesn't fix them in time. This leads to a situation where, if you know the bugs, you play well, but if you don't, you're at a disadvantage. Sure, you can watch guide videos, but if you don't understand why good rogues are doing certain things, you won't improve much-at best, you'll remain an average player.
I know Arcane is crushing it, and Fire will of course be an S tier spec, but damn I absolutely love frost mage. Seeing them Comet Storms come crashing down is so damn satisfying. Just a great spec overall. Not complex, damn good aoe dmg, decent enough single target, and S tier for open world content.
demon warlock is better then affliction yeah i know kalamazi say's affliction better by a small % but i have not discovered an affliction warlock that out dps my demon warlock
At the end of the day, Warlock's are eating GOOD this season 🤤. Demo is dope, I love the summon army. It makes me feel very powerful. But I ADORE the plague doctor vibe of Affliction. I'm constantly fighting Demo warlocks for highest dps 😂 Y'all are little nukes man
Tier lists every week with opinions mixing fun(subjective), design and tuning. Arcane mage is S tier mainly because its doing a lot of damage and fire mage is also S tier because its cool in theory. Joke tier list for clicks😂
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I love these "Most fun" "what feels fun to play" tier list, thanks for these!
Agreed! That matters a lot more to me than top DPS.
Subbed, I just started playing TWW haven't played retail since WoD. Came back to game to play HC classic and DD fresh. Having a blast. Playing my old chars sitting at lv 40, got warrior to 80 now hunter and lock. OG Hand of A'dal reppin. Thanks for the content!
So I can't be the only one who NEVER knew that this guy isn't Marcelian, right?
no way this whole time I thought that lol
Yep. Kinda brainfreezed me when i found out.
Found out about a month ago too 😅 always had it the other way round with these guys
@@miladsamoabsolutely !! 🎉
Took me a few years to figure it out back in the day. xD
Here’s a shot at some Warlock bugs:
Demo:
-Doom is only applying if you have more than 1 demonic core since the spell is checking for demonic core on hit
-Impending Doom is not giving an imp on doom expiration
-Foul mouth does not work at all/partially works.
-Shadowtouched does not work at all/partially works
-Houndmaster’s gambit does not work.
-Improved demonic tactics do not work at all.
-Demonic Brutality does not work at all.
Class tree:
Several bugs with healthstones. Demonic healthstones will dissapear once you hit a loading screen. I’m not too sure about the regular Healthstone bug, but it puts your Healthstone on cool down until you talent switch.
Affliction:
-Cull the weak doesn’t work at all
-Malefic touch is doing pre-rework damage (it does not scale with mastery)
Destruction:
-Shadowburn is in an unbuffed state compared to beta which makes the entire shadowburn line of talents a dps loss to use.
-Decimation is supposedly proccing less than it should be
Jesus
List seems outdated, cull the weak absolutely does work
love the positivity on enhance, it really is fun!!
I am a survival hunter and playing sentinel is hella fun. Not to mention that survival is tanky as hell now. I run Pack leader to make my pet immortal and it wont die. Im having a blast
I had the exact reverse feeling on warrior this expansion. I love how arms warrior is right now, massive execute damage, rapid short bursts because of 45 second blade storm, solid cleave damage excelling at two or three target fights, better utility with 12 seconds shockwave and not to mention a lot of self healing through pending victory and second wind. The only problem I have with it is that it does not have an immunity, everything else feels just about right.
Agreed man, loving Arms right now
Started out and geared to 590 as fury. But after I got some delves loot at 602 arms is giga with a good 2 hander. Slayers feels good, not far from fury, nice to be able to change up the play style. The Slayer build does not feel worse than DF arms, Flame has just tried collusus arms and called it a day.
Yeah, I mean this guy has some hot takes for sure
Arms doesn't put up numbers even close to Fury. Some people have an idea of fun that involves actually playing the game and being invited to groups.
@@Ribcut I agree totally, in mythic settings cleave damage is always desired, where as arms warrior’s excelled single target and priority damage would be much less desirable in most circumstances. As for getting invited into the group, you could always host a party yourself, so that wouldn’t be much of a problem.
Would love to see a class tier list specifically for delves, since some specs feel way worse than others trying to solo t8s
DH is my favorite right now. Mobility makes it so easy and fast
Can't wait for hunter rework, I am still maining hunter with dark ranger hero talents, I don't care I love the thematic and I am having a blast doing delves and all the quests towards lore master 😊
Moonkin and Fire Mage do similar damage but I switched to Fire and it FEELS so good to play.
Why I keep maining it :D
@@MarcelianOnline 😍😍😍😍
Agreed. I'm having a blast with fire.
@@woodland0321 you mean.. a fire blast? :P
@@Daniel-ld7xs yes!
Unholy is so fun for me, CDs are not so bad, I don't feel useless, but of course the most powerful thing about this class are transmogs.
Second best for fun is WW monk, touch of death and movement is 10/10
Also it's weird for me that it's the first time ever that I like melee classes more than ranged ones.
im having a blast with mage, especially frost. love having like 5 or 6 frozen orbs up at one time just pumpinggggg.
I appreciate you mentioning Breath of Sindragosa on the Frost DK. The new additions to the spec via the hero talents have really solidified the spec, but BoS feels like it's bolted on and is trying to pull attention away from the things you want to be doing instead. I'd also add Chill Streak as just an awkward ability, but BoS should probably go at this point now that we have new options that feel better for the modern game. In terms of the class as a whole, the only thing that stands out as awkward is cleaving strikes. D&D becoming an aura could resolve that.
Agreed having to place D&D multiple times In each battle feels clunky, just to do thing a warrior or demon hunter can do with a click of a button
i think Soul Reaper should go too. zero interaction and disturb the rotation/prio list and cost a rune that you need for obliterate or other things...
i have always loved monk to bits. it’s probably my most consistently played class.
I run shadow priest and Ive seen alot of streamers putting it at C or even D and calling it one of the worst dps but u put it in A so glad to see that
Thank you for the tier list, Pro Gamer Flame :)
Sure thing
As an arms main for nearly a decade I am frigging loving the feel of things. Specifically slayer. To each their own
My main was up in war prot but I like war arms. I hesitate to play arms in main spec, I m afraid arms spec has some problems to be accepted in mythic+.
I m like u, I like slayer hero talent 😊
I think arcane is better for delves than frost from what I've experienced. Honestly, I feel like it is easier to play and makes more sense / has a better flow. Haven't tried fire.
Boomkin has been about the exact same since WOTLK... I will probably try feral soon so I can enjoy world content and delves more.
Augmentation feels gross to play for me. I really don't like classes that their whole rotation revolves around a 2 minute cooldown. I want consistent damage and forgiveness when I get my teeth knocked out and have to pop defensives or I get CC'd. It's a horrible feeling sitting there just spamming long casts waiting for the CDs to come back up. Devastation seems decent, I didn't give it enough time to figure out, but I'm going to check that out again.
Ret pally is def one of my favorite. I’m pulling 900k-1.2m overall consistently. The heals are nice with eternal flame. Players are sleeping on the pally tree with dawn light. Thanks! Tanking wise it’s def BDK for me. And healing can’t go wrong with holy priest. But a mix between priest and holy pally. I’m really diggin the new trees and damage, and playstyles!
I base stat of haste is 16%. When I use wake of ashes and have 10 stacks of crusade, lust and pi. I’ve tested it a few times, my max haste I’ve gotten up to is 174% haste for about 15 seconds. And boy that dps flies when it’s all up like that.
Wow I have had a radically opposite experience with Arms. It feels to me the best it ever has, and I am usually at the very top of the meters with it in any content.
love my green fire turret boy, but the numbers are a bit depressing. But it's so much fun to play in its current iteration I think.
I've maibed warrior since TBC and I think this si the best sate fury has been in any xpac launch. Solid work from Blizzard
Not for long! Hahahahaha
Of course you do, they are absolutely broken and overtuned 😂
well yeah they are broken and getting nerfed it does laughable damage compared to others
Fury is gonna fall off pretty hard once more people get 4pc tier. Trust 🤣😂
Broken cos they have no tier set and can pad damage on ads. Clueless comments
I just love that Arcane is smooth now it requires a little set up but the pay off is worth it. Glad Radiant Spark is gone. Final note on meteorite for Sunfury it does a lot of damage but it's so slow most of the time it triggers my target is dead before they crash.
I'm loving Enhance, but the amount of buttons are just nuts, also liking Fury and its looking like it might be my main until the anniversary update streamlines things for enhance a bit
im with you on the dark ranger changes coming. probably my new main once it goes live
when does it go live?
i know its all personal opinion but people hating on balance druid makes zero sense to me
Rerolled to Hunter because of the new Hero Talents coming, didn't know they were poop right now. Oh well better to be ready than not I guess lol
survival is nasty rn bro
Which new hero talents are coming?
lol @ the BM part.. haha so true, still love the spec though for the mobility during progress :)
Evoker buffs should have actual clear visuals around the character who is buffed. It would make the buffing part much more fun and rewarding. Right now it feels like you are pressing button that does nothing even tho it does alot. Also we need more support specs. Turn enhance to actual enhance and make it to second buffing spec that uses weapon imbues and totems to give short buffs for the team and focus on autoattack dmg while buffing itself and party (no active attack skills, just autoattack dmg with self buffs).
I would put money on us never getting another full on support spec.
Agreed. I like the idea of support spec, but they didn't install the UI for it.
I hit prescience I have no idea if it's actually doing anything on my team mate.
@@ObmChris Pretty much only way you can know that your buffs did anything is by using details dmg meter. It shows Aug "support" amount with the dps.
Making UI for the Aug buffs and support abilities is so easy that even users can do that with simple addons/WA but there should definitely be actual buff effects on the player models so they can also clearly see when they have been buffed.
Can't wait for fire mage to be useable in M+ so i can main it, the specs is so much fun! Just tune the numbers Blizz plz
Druid hero talents just show so little thought man…why no empowered forms, even like with Druid of the claw to turn into a empowered cat form with visual change, or a different bear form that deals heavy damage on their maul or mangle when you have a proc, an empowered tree form to heal assist or a different moon kin form to add variety.
Wildstalker to have vines crawling around your cat and latching onto enemy’s. Instead….nothing?
Fire is so fun. ,but not even getting invited into stuff playing it lol with arcane doing atleast 200% more dmg for now:( hope they tune it soon, so much more fun
Frost is a lot of fun but highly inconsistent between CD windows.
Switched to Rider/Unholy and it’s become my favorite spec by far
I’ve main a fire mage last few xpacs. Really fun to play and soooo reactive which I love 🔥🔥🔥
Lol "Id like Dracthyr a lot more if i didn't have to look at it". Thankfully soon we can play as the race as other classes and NOT have to be in dragon form, because I do like the idea of not needing a mount other than the occasional ground mount
Arms in the bottom tier.
Wow, what a shocker.
this video was *chef's kiss*
Slayer fury is awesome and not only that but mountain thane feels incredible to play in aoe as well. If they could just give it something to be more competitive in ST id be so hyped. This is probably the most fun ive ever had playing warrior and ive been a war main since dec 2004
I think frost is more bland than the others but if you play frostfire frost its super fun IMO
i really miss legion shadow priest.. i was so fun and so fast paced, with the void form. and the increasing haste...
when does the wow Anniversary patch launch?
arms player: 😢
Hello guys. Witch class/spec will be good choice for beginner in wow ? I like mele dps play style so i was thinking about try to tank but i am not sure if its not to much for beginner.
I would suggest retri paladin. Easy class, solid melee damage and sufficient heals to save you if needed (+ ability to eventually tank with Prot)
@@frankvz388 okay i will try. Ty O:)
Fire mage is KING 👑🔥 always been my favorite
Am I the only one who can't get consistent damage on enhancement? Sometimes I blow up the meters in mythic...other times I'm fighting with tank for lowest dps....I think enhancement needs to be looked at for complexity
Rng/proc based spec
Still so satisfying to play ive had 8 shamans at one point finally. Stuxk with. Orc as a race cant give up on it just coz ots hard. To. Play
skill issue (spec gets better with time, keep at it)
@@sayneASFdo You play enhancement
@@grahamsutcliffe7383 yah I do, can't stand people that want every spec to have the skill ceiling of bm, easy specs are there for people who want an easier game.
it's lazy to demand a spec be neutered down, because someone can't deal with "complexity"
Loving Ele so much but my mind is also on enh. Want to slowly turn to it.
What Details skin is that? Looks awesome.
It is weird that BM hunter is in the top portion of the raid DPS list.
its aoe is trash but its st is good.
@@nthnthms1212 that makes sense then.
It’s a surprise to me but I seem to almost like the opposite of flame now. I don’t really like mage and subtlety I can’t stand. The good news is the list still works, I just need to reverse it lol
I was to main evoker had it geared and ready for the reset, and then I went to try Spriest.... And I have been playing Spriest since and ditched the Evoker. They are not the best but I am in love.
I love lightening elemental shaman so fun tempest and keep conductor up oh man soo good.
I’m a Aug main and it’s been great - The burst damage ain’t so bad either. Kinda OP at times 😂😅
i will stick with my Assa rogue with Aoe Silence, Aoe Blind, shroud and one of the biggest uncapped AoE damage in the game.
There is something about Havoc that isn’t doing it for me. Even though they’ve remained the same for the most part, the damage feels wonky. It could feel better at max level, but I feel like my Eye Beam and Blade Dance don’t really do much damage. When I look at the meters, most my damage comes from other things. Maybe it’s always been like that and I’m just mistaken but I swear those buttons used to feel really impactful. With most of my damage coming from the Immolation Aura DoT and some other DoT I can’t recall off the top of my head, I just don’t feel the same way playing the class as I did in DF. Hopefully Unholy is a bit more up my alley.
dh had a bug were eye beam did less dmg after 1 target, i believe it will be fixed this reset ..
I have found boomkin to be very fun but it feels clunky. I can see the bones are there for an amazingly fun and rewarding. I have started a second druid to try feral to level 70 (I have yet to buy the xpack and likely won't until winter). I have only ever played healer or boomkin as a druid, so its time to try feral.
I have found hunter to just plain suck and is boring, which is sad becuase I have always played hunter or at least had one or two at max level for farming and pvp.
Warrior is fun. I love warriors and found it to be great with both fury and arms.
Mage is stupid fun, I have decided to level a freshly made character to enjoy my time longer with the class.
DK is as frost has been boring so far, I think unholy is so much more fun and fluid.
Shaman, wow wow wow! What a fun class as elemental. I plan to level one as enhancement next.
Rogue was okay and fun enough, but not enough fun to play another.
Priest, as shadow, has been fun enough to finish leveling to 70 and have him ready for when I do buy the xpac.
Demon Hunter was very fun and easy to level. I will likely pvp with him on the side when bored later in the xpac.
That is all I have played so far. I have not played retail until the War Within. I think its been nearly five years so I am a bit rusty.
My goal is to have two of every class, one class on each faction and then after buying the expansion is when I'll decide on my main class. Especially if there are some big changes coming in the next couple months.
So you main the Mage right now? Fire right? I dunno what to go with, Enhancement seems really cool but i can't make the rotation click for me.
Fire Mage seems more in my tempo to be honest, but he's weak atm, or at least that what everyone is telling me, dunno how he'll be in 20th Anniversary Patch.
New to warrior. Which fury build you recommend? Dunno who's version to use. Also looking for a good weakaura
rip to my fellow bm hunters. I have ptsd but I love him. its so toxic.
Why would the hero talents go away?
Myth raiding is now Online or we must wait ? I'm not so in this stuff, I think after the myth raids the classes become buffs and nerfs.
Assa rogrue #1 s-tier and the meta!
EDIT: LMAO and I was correct.
I haven't even watched the video yet or played the new expansion. but as a Frost DK fan since it's first edition in WotLK I already know Frost dk will be bottom tier. Its like a WoW tradition. I don't know why Blizzard hates Frost DK so much lmao. Its basically always the spec you level with until you hit max and switch to Unholy.
Only maining a class because its' "S" tier is silly. If you like the class play it. They change stuff all the time.
"We care about quality" leaves back round static in the recording lmfao
I don’t understand my shaman enh is 73 and is under performing massively and I’ve been playing it since tbc, must be gear cause I’m struggling with it
is there a way to play fire mage within being so far behind ? i really love that spec but all my fury friends and other top tier class get like 900k dps not in burst and I have to work for it so much lol.. i rarelly see myself top dps ...
Single target beast master actually comes top even beats arcane mage in raid
The fire pick is hilarious
Im a tank, i never worry about my dps :)
The tier set was a perfect iteration of doom. No idea why they didn't carry it forward. All they had to do is copy and paste it.
Well, let's see what happens in the future!
Frost getting nerfed when?? I know it was nerfed a few weeks ago but haven't heard anything since
Just came for the steel series ad
The problem with rogues has existed for as long as I've played WoW. There are always bugs, and Blizzard doesn't fix them in time. This leads to a situation where, if you know the bugs, you play well, but if you don't, you're at a disadvantage. Sure, you can watch guide videos, but if you don't understand why good rogues are doing certain things, you won't improve much-at best, you'll remain an average player.
Every expassion 😊mage are the best dps always in s tier
It’s not a real tier list but ur feeling list 😊
If they can put armor on a Tauren they can do it on a lizard
I know Arcane is crushing it, and Fire will of course be an S tier spec, but damn I absolutely love frost mage. Seeing them Comet Storms come crashing down is so damn satisfying.
Just a great spec overall. Not complex, damn good aoe dmg, decent enough single target, and S tier for open world content.
Where the nighters Mohawk at. Or is it obviously ss rank that you didn't include it
Isn’t frost dk just outpacing unholy right now in single target and AOE? Not sure why he put unholy ahead of frost
Because this isnt a power tier list, it's a personal taste/playstyle tier list. Hence why fire is so high
Shitting out tier list like a chinese factory
Fr this dude is an idiot
demon warlock is better then affliction yeah i know kalamazi say's affliction better by a small % but i have not discovered an affliction warlock that out dps my demon warlock
Yeah but demo is lame. Aff and destro are way cooler
At the end of the day, Warlock's are eating GOOD this season 🤤. Demo is dope, I love the summon army. It makes me feel very powerful. But I ADORE the plague doctor vibe of Affliction. I'm constantly fighting Demo warlocks for highest dps 😂 Y'all are little nukes man
Tier lists every week with opinions mixing fun(subjective), design and tuning. Arcane mage is S tier mainly because its doing a lot of damage and fire mage is also S tier because its cool in theory. Joke tier list for clicks😂
disagree on arms :( slaps
I love criting with demolish procs. So much fun
Balance Druid is fucking slapping rn I don’t get the hate I’m out damaging like most of the A tiers almost always
Read the title, has nothing to do with dps :)
but warrior getting nerfed
Fire mage!🧙
is this a dps list or a love class list ?
A tier list...on a Friday... double win
What we do :P
Firestorm needs to be baseline for devastation. It's a travesty.
Frost os getting nerfed again?
Yea enhancer has a lot fun builds but for nice dmg you still need to play ele builds 😢 hope storm will finally compare with 11.0.5
Dead spells are ok to me... The button bloat in wow is ridiculous.
Holy shit people are fast af
Getting things done :)
As a dev main: fuck firestorm
Fun or not it's a dps tier list and fire is the top here while it's 18th in that fight doing half the damage compared to the top dps xD
I want to see you flame maining survival
dark ranger is out long ago when u but this vid up? mm pumps.. c tier is low low low low
Next rework need cat. :D
I see an opinion that is based on procs.