How to Discern the Spirits

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • What did St. Ignatius mean when he counseled followers to “discern the spirits”? How do we do this? In this episode of the “Word on Fire Show,” we unpack the “Spiritual Exercises” of St. Ignatius and offer practical tips on how to discern God’s will in your life. A listener asks how to discern whether God is calling him to marriage or the priesthood.
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  • @hrhmllc224
    @hrhmllc224 4 роки тому +18

    Prayers keeps us on track to the will of God. Total trust in God’s merciful love.

  • @mommyseastar5776
    @mommyseastar5776 4 роки тому +44

    “A consolation is what is going to lead you to a deeper commitment to love of God and love of neighbor.” I love this.

  • @kussmannjv
    @kussmannjv 4 роки тому +8

    The discerning what's right and good and faithful I think it's really important to have a good spiritual director as I do

  • @ramirreyes6414
    @ramirreyes6414 4 роки тому +3

    Which of the two paths is going to lead to lead me into a greater love for God and neighbor?
    This is a very great question put forward by Bishop Barron to those discerning the religious life. Its almost a silver-bullet statement on how we will have the scales to weigh down where our life is gravitating into.
    Its not only applicable to the religious life but maybe to our other life choices too like career choices and whatever. God bless you Bishop.

  • @EinSofVirtuoso
    @EinSofVirtuoso 4 роки тому +10

    Say some prayers as I discern my vocation. I have been feeling like I'm free-wheeling through life and letting entropy get the best of me.

  • @anne-mariewoloszyn439
    @anne-mariewoloszyn439 4 роки тому +2

    Bishop Barron, I have made the 19th Annotation, the 30 week retreat twice in my adult life. Get over your fear and do it. God is a God of surprises. Let God surprise you through this retreat. It is a retreat that has formed many great saints. 🤓

  • @fservidad
    @fservidad 4 роки тому +45

    Discernment is a gift from the Holy Spirit, I believed that every Christian has the power to discern. God has given us this gift The Holy Spirit that we may be able to discern what is from the Holy Spirit and what is from the Evil.

    • @ketinporta4994
      @ketinporta4994 4 роки тому +6

      Felix Servidad Big Amén to that!!!
      I was just sharing what a waste of life is to think that we can be advised by ANYONE ELSE !
      You nailed it. The Lord, The Holy Spirit giver of life is He Who gives Life and Wisdom and knowledge about good and evil. Let’s just ask for Him to The Holy God The Father ❤️as Our Lord advised so long ago! 🙏👍

    • @ketinporta4994
      @ketinporta4994 4 роки тому +1

      Collins Anosike I did not mean pride at all ! Jesus encouraged us to ask for Him. No pride was in my mind. In fact, I was purely thinking of that very act of receiving the Holy Spirit :)
      How can you be advised from anyone higher than you if you cant discern what he is saying ? :) thanks.

    • @el-sig2249
      @el-sig2249 4 роки тому +3

      Discernment is a higher spiritual function. It requires much maturity. Those who are not advanced in the spiritual life will definitely need more guidance than others. Those who are advanced will have clearer discernment.

    • @fservidad
      @fservidad 4 роки тому +1

      Collins Anosike Absolutely we who have the gift of the Holy Spirit, still need the advice from the one who is more mature in the faith.

    • @mish375
      @mish375 4 роки тому +2

      @@el-sig2249 I disagree. I don't believe discernment is only reliant on advanced faith. It is a gift from God. One can develop the skill but some have it naturally.

  • @steadyeddie7
    @steadyeddie7 4 роки тому +1

    'Consolation without cause'. I have often felt this in my past as I have tried to live through the Holy Spirit, I will now use this as my mantra. Thank you Blessed Bishop Barron.

  • @ZeroGravity60
    @ZeroGravity60 2 роки тому

    Hello Bishop Barron. The light of Christ shines through your presence. You have been chosen to feed the flock. It is the spiritual light of God that feeds/awakens the soul of those who gain audience with you.
    You said, "At a decisive moment, God will withdraw those happy consolations. Now Why?"
    Honestly, I believe our body, mind, and spirit, are where we first make contact with the experiences that generate the kind of pleasure and excitement you speak of. I don't believe it's God that diminishes the pull of these spiritual experiences but rather the natural process of digesting into the soul something new. We experience and it tantalizes our physical mind, body, and spirit. In time we digest it into the soul, draw it into ourselves, it becomes who we are. How are we to be excited by a spiritual experience if that vibration is who we already are? Satisfied? Yes. Excited? No. I don't believe God takes the thrill away but rather continues through his word and our trials, to raise our core vibration to a state of eternal bliss. As I know you know, the Holy Spirit is so pure, so loving. Once you digest him and his silent vibration you become him and he, like in you Bishop Barron, shines his light through you. The major thrill is gone only because the new vibration that you feel is constant and therefore more common/uneventful. But in the end, a Christian life is a blissful life. I choose constant bliss over the occasional youthful thrill of a new spiritual experience. One heart, one love. Peace.
    Thought you might like this.
    The Holy Spirit gave it to me as a path home.
    "How to grow in Christ"
    Read, study, self-evaluate, seek to perform. :)
    THE TEN PROMISES OF GOD:
    [] Come and you will hear.
    [] Hear and you will understand.
    [] Understand and you will try.
    [] Try and you will succeed.
    [] Succeed and you will believe.
    [] Believe and you will trust.
    [] Trust and you will love.
    [] Love and you will serve.
    [] Serve and you will surrender.
    [] Surrender and you will live.
    Live in everyday union with God's Holy Spirit.
    P*E*A*C*E

  • @majorfrank1167
    @majorfrank1167 4 роки тому +1

    I am 80 years old and have never ever heard, felt, or any other spiritual discernment. However, I am a Catholic (Very Catholic) during the Vietnam war when I was in fire fights or when my brothers were KIA next to me. Now I enjoy Bishop Sheen, Mother Angelica, and Bishop Barron and they all have brought me closer to the faith, but again no spiritual feelings, thoughts, or any other christian wills. I am forever praying I too can have that love and feelings other folks talk about here.

  • @borrico1965
    @borrico1965 4 роки тому +5

    14:22 Awesome! Bishop Barron is an expert on St. Thomas Aquinas' Theology/Philosophy!

  • @JoeyC0914
    @JoeyC0914 4 роки тому +7

    I really just needed this

  • @gemum4219
    @gemum4219 Рік тому +9

    For anyone reading this: Do you find that some people provide a feast for the brain? I could follow people like that easily, just to hear what they are thinking. Bishop Barron is one of them.
    It's not just the factoids he has or knowledge he presents it's how he interacts with stimuli around him, the points he makes. Even when he mentioned that he would be interested in visiting this person's office, even that struck my curiosity - "yeah, that would be interesting." Such a seemingly small thing opened up a lot more. There is so much around us that weaves into our awareness and connectedness.This plotting of awareness is no accident - it all fits together.

  • @polycarpflavius4523
    @polycarpflavius4523 4 роки тому

    Yes, it is absolute, no mistaking it with ones self.

  • @emilebeetha779
    @emilebeetha779 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Bishop Father Robert. We are living in a world that seems like the one described in Revelation, where evil spirits are in charge in governments/ legislature. Spiritual discernment is needed even more now, including how to fight evil spirits. PS. Please adress mass evangelization in the Catholic church in near future.

    • @williamedwards2512
      @williamedwards2512 4 роки тому +1

      Yes we are in that time of Revelation/Apocalypse. Very rarely do the evil spirits come at us as the movie the exorcist or the exorcism of Emily Rose. They have brought more hell and destruction through sneaky slyness an the little white lies etc. that have misled souls more than anything. The unknown author of the book 'The Cloud of unknowing' said that there will always be something that a messenger will give away of themselves wither they be of God or the Devil in some small why you'll know whom their from.

  • @SofoniBeats
    @SofoniBeats 4 роки тому

    This video is so helpful.....many people should visit this channel

  • @nadiabruce6389
    @nadiabruce6389 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome. Thank you.

  • @dezmondaigilo
    @dezmondaigilo 3 роки тому

    Thank you bishop baron

  • @77thTrombone
    @77thTrombone 4 роки тому +1

    ADMG ("for the greater glory of God") is not a threshold test; it is a decision test.
    In other words, it is not enough to do something (anything) to increase the glory of God. Rather, of the options before you, are you choosing (discerning) the option that would result in the greater glory of God?

  • @gretalaube91
    @gretalaube91 Рік тому

    God always builds us up. Sometimes, He allows us to be torn down a little (owch!) to build us up better.

  • @ewigerschuler3982
    @ewigerschuler3982 4 роки тому +9

    Seek out the gifts of the Holy spirit, if they are there, you're on the right track I think.

  • @soccerlife5041
    @soccerlife5041 4 роки тому +6

    Your excellency , Make a vedio on Amazon synod and the new controversy of pachamama idols. We are confused as to what is happening in the church. Can we now worship pagan God's ???

  • @praytherosaryeveryday2709
    @praytherosaryeveryday2709 4 роки тому +3

    Pray the rosary every day and you will be guided to where you need to be in life

  • @Philip-uy3bx
    @Philip-uy3bx Рік тому

    Bob it's a sob here a tear

  • @portialiau7407
    @portialiau7407 4 роки тому

    神把美好的感覺收走, 是怕我們在當中迷失, 以為那是神的全部, 而錯過其它更美好的引導.thanks a lot for this film.

  • @luiscarloscorral587
    @luiscarloscorral587 4 роки тому +1

    Hola que tal... Me interesa mucho sus reflexiones... Me gustaría ver mas videos subtitulados en español... Saludos...

  • @jamesdailey9922
    @jamesdailey9922 4 роки тому

    You Have to keep feelings out of it,and look at God's laws, precepts, decrees and commandments. And if it doesn't match up then it is what it is. God's rules are Perfect

    • @jamesdailey9922
      @jamesdailey9922 4 роки тому

      Once u have Mastered ALL of them then and only then can you allow feelings to come into play and Only to judge if you can help

  • @valerierindler7999
    @valerierindler7999 2 роки тому

    “What’s a book?”
    I’m dead

  • @chrismangiaracina8821
    @chrismangiaracina8821 4 роки тому

    Well with one certainty, not by/through your example, Your Excellency.

  • @Eowyn3Pride
    @Eowyn3Pride 4 роки тому

    Steven from Utah may be called to permanent Deaconate as a married man...
    Daily Mass and Rosary is the best...

  • @rschiwal
    @rschiwal 4 роки тому +1

    A bit of a problem in citing Thomas Merton. In his later life he expressed embarrassment of his earlier writings. He thought Seven Story Mountain was naive and he found more sense in the writings of Marx.

    • @xaviervelascosuarez
      @xaviervelascosuarez 4 роки тому +1

      Russell, I think bishop Barron knows that...

    • @rschiwal
      @rschiwal 4 роки тому

      @@xaviervelascosuarez I don't assume anything. Bishops aren't omniscient. Shouldn't it be concerning if he does know and is still citing someone who thought Judas was actually an OK guy? A monk who is called a heretic by his most ardent admirers? This is a presentation of discerning spirits and Merton's spirit is clearly discerned. Not to judge his soul, but he was a confused man; the epitome of a seed dropped on rocky ground that sprouts up enthusiastically then dries up.

    • @xaviervelascosuarez
      @xaviervelascosuarez 4 роки тому

      @@rschiwal you may be right. But I've seen/listened many (maybe too many...) of Bishop Barron's presentations and don't think it's likely he would subscribe to the later Buddhist spirituality type and confused Thomas Merton. I can appreciate where you are coming from and your concern because bishop Barron is very wide open minded. But I'm quite confident that it's a healthy open mindedness because it's very solidly rooted in Thomist philosophy and theology.
      Still, like you, I wouldn't mind a quick caveat here and there when citing Merton, kind of what I've seen some spiritually writers do when quoting Origen...

    • @marypinakat8594
      @marypinakat8594 4 роки тому

      @@rschiwal
      Beware of half-truths, you may get the wrong half."

  • @bernadettelennon6588
    @bernadettelennon6588 4 роки тому

    I was thinking I relate to job a lot is he not a good example of the spiritual life love not being love if it's self seeking but when tested it like the process of refining gold it is shaped and molded according to the refiners wishes each unique it's when the work is finished it has a purpose as saint Paul says it's running the race and keeping the faith

  • @philryan3540
    @philryan3540 4 роки тому

    I'm posting this on 11/11. Thisis an old interview. Why have these discussions been discontinued?

  • @astrol4b
    @astrol4b 4 роки тому

    My Thomas Aquinas is bishop barron

  • @Philip-uy3bx
    @Philip-uy3bx Рік тому

    A human ALWAYS but what does God want (!?)

  • @ToxicPea
    @ToxicPea 4 роки тому

    20:36 What's a book?

  • @Vezmus1337
    @Vezmus1337 4 роки тому

    It seems like it's very much a kind of 'recognition'. If you don't recognize it, it's probably not the Holy Spirit.

  • @carynfisher9139
    @carynfisher9139 4 роки тому

    You know, libraries are seeing a resurgence in popularity among Millenials and younger people. Why? We're poor and libraries have a lot of free stuff, not just borrowing books. I'm honestly surprised and saddened to hear that completely unfair "Those darn young people!" attitude come from Bishop Barron, especially over something like libraries.

  • @theresaengland7459
    @theresaengland7459 4 роки тому

    Know, believe a person has EVIL spirit: How to make sure of discernment?

  • @Philip-uy3bx
    @Philip-uy3bx Рік тому

    Doesn't cure !?

  • @mommyseastar5776
    @mommyseastar5776 4 роки тому +205

    “What awakens greater love in you? That’s the path God wants you on.” What beautiful clarity!

    • @goodwinike126
      @goodwinike126 4 роки тому

      Uhc

    • @beastman1083
      @beastman1083 4 роки тому

      That's such a COOL avatar name!! ...Just Love IT!! Mommy SeaStar!

    • @consueloramirez7645
      @consueloramirez7645 4 роки тому

      @@goodwinike126 iiuuiiuuiiiuiiiiiiiuiuiiiiiiiiiiiiuiiiuiuiiiiiuuiuiuuuuuiuiiuuuuuuiuuuiuuuuiuiuuuuiiiiiuuiuiuuuuuiuiuuuuuuuuuuiuuuiiiiuiuiiuuiiiuiuiuuuuuiiiuuuiuiuuuuuxuuuuuuuiuuuuii

    • @christophersnedeker2065
      @christophersnedeker2065 2 роки тому

      I've been having some trouble lately and this inspired me.

  • @busterbeagle2167
    @busterbeagle2167 4 роки тому +83

    Bishop- I for one will never be bored hearing you talk about Aquinas.

    • @MCFRful
      @MCFRful 4 роки тому +4

      me too!

    • @RandolphTheWhite1
      @RandolphTheWhite1 4 роки тому

      Dad?!

    • @busterbeagle2167
      @busterbeagle2167 4 роки тому

      randel hanson I’m not exactly sure the context of your reply. However I’m somewhere between feeling complemented and laughing

    • @Eowyn3Pride
      @Eowyn3Pride 4 роки тому

      Me too!😁❤

    • @patriciamontgomery658
      @patriciamontgomery658 4 роки тому +1

      I do not support you at all. At this time on the church, a priest needs to be vehemently opposed to corruption and complacency in the Church. You are too easy in your homilies and in general. You need discernment yourself.

  • @THEBODYPRACTICE
    @THEBODYPRACTICE 10 місяців тому +4

    Don’t fall in love with the good feelings of God, fall in love with God himself! This is beautiful advice. Thank you Bishop B🙏🏻

  • @normagrant1881
    @normagrant1881 4 роки тому +10

    Hello Bishop Barron, blessings to you Sir for the exceptional work that you do representing the Kingdom Of God. My background is Protestant, and although I have visited other churces, including the Catholic Church, on numerous occasions, I remain faithful to the Protestant denomination. I have been an ardent follower of some of the stalwarts of the Catholic faith through Telecare and EWTN for over 20 years. Fr. Benedict Grochel, Fr. John Corapi, Bishop Weurel and now you, are some whose teachings I have found priceless. I watched almost every episode of Catholicism; and I can't seem to get enough of WOF. I still watch Mother Angelic. I loved your Good Friday presentation of the seven words. I just wanted to let you know that you've been a favorite of mine for a long time. Blessings once again Sir.

  • @annette4660
    @annette4660 3 роки тому +9

    Every talk with Bishop Barron makes me feel that greater love.

  • @L.Fontein7
    @L.Fontein7 4 роки тому +4

    As one whose attempting to learn more about spiritual discernment myself, I think I can perhaps clarify (per Brandon beginning around the 2:50 mark) - God spirit = love/joy/peace vs the evil which engenders anxiety/sadness/fallacious reasoning. Based on my (limited) experience, it's not a 'feeling' that one would get exactly, but it's more like a visceral reaction which is stirred in you that falls under whichever category love, etc. or, anxiety and is brought out in you, not necessarily 'felt' by you. It's like comfortable vs uncomfortable - it's less like a feeling than a state of being in regard to what's presented at that moment. For me at least. I hope that makes some kind of sense???

  • @elke4646
    @elke4646 4 роки тому +6

    I recall that in Gospel of John, Jesus says that the Holy Spirit will remind us of things He has said. Also recently, I heard on Catholic Radio that the Holy Angels, our Guardian Angel will remind us of memories that lift us toward God, remind us of joyful times, blessings we've received from God and so on. The evil spirits will bring us memories of past sinful acts and make them look tempting again. When I am contemplating Jesus and I ask a question, a memory will come up as an answer! This can go on for several minutes, like a conversation. It ALWAYS uplifts my soul and draws me closer to Christ and increase my Love and Trust for Him. Always. I have gone through the dark, dry times too and I just keep the Faith, pray just as much, dive deeper. Later, I will have the experiences of God raining down consolations again. Praise God.

  • @ncubemusics
    @ncubemusics 4 роки тому +5

    Yahweh is so great! Thanks a lot Bishop Barron for the divine consolation well explained and clarified. I have that experience now and I was wondering how I could handle it because the enormous increase in love for God and for neighbour is so overwhelming to the extent that I thought I was about go crazy but this video kinda open my eyes and make me realised that God has gotton hold of my heart and now I feel a relieved and comfortable with it now... No other feeling like that on earth and I love it. I basically pray thrice a day using breviary seeking God wholeheartedly, consequently the result is the spiritual consolation I now have, it makes me often cry when praying, when after receiving holy communion and when contemplating about God. To me God providentially designed this video for me. All glory and praise belong to Yahweh Saboath who lives for through Yeshua the Christ. Amen!👏 From Italy!

  • @mariearmitage8653
    @mariearmitage8653 4 роки тому +3

    Have doubts? Where do you want me to go? What do you want me to do? Ask the Holy Spirit, "Give Me Your Orders" quietly listen & He will!!!!

  • @laurengalan2760
    @laurengalan2760 4 роки тому +29

    This is exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you for creating this channel and God bless you both 🙏💖

  • @ginakendrick2581
    @ginakendrick2581 4 роки тому +3

    I’m married I already know my path I got that I have four children grown and gone but I am trying desperately to find a spiritual director and how to practice my mental prayer better and just frankly to be a better Catholic for the love of God I have a lot of questions as I’m reading Saint Teresa of Avila but I cannot for the life of me find a spiritual director . what does one do?

    • @maryshepherd9186
      @maryshepherd9186 4 роки тому

      Contact your parish or archdiocese - they should have a list of spiritual directors.

  • @carolsquitieri550
    @carolsquitieri550 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you Bishop Barron ! You always have a brilliant way of "teaching us " about the history of our church.

  • @JoeF-nr6jq
    @JoeF-nr6jq 4 роки тому +3

    Discernment is a cable!! Per a quote from our favorite St JH Newman that was used in a talk by Fr Beseau (new rector of PCJ) a few weeks ago. "An iron bar represents mathematical or strict demonstrations; a cable represents moral demonstration, which is an assemblage of probabilities , separately insufficient for certainty, but when put together, [irrefutable]." (Letters and Diaries of John Henry Newman, Vol XXI, 146) IMHO, this quote would work fabulously in your talks on this subject. We don't walk into church and start to genuflect to Jesus in tabernacle and think about why we believe this is really Jesus, what doubts we might have, and what one thing proved that Catholicism is right, but we genuflect and make the sigh of the cross immediately because it is the combination of very many life experiences, thoughts and some feelings that together formed a very very strong cable of belief in us that does not break easily. This is a really good insight. Please pray for our children who have no cables!

  • @priscillawright3134
    @priscillawright3134 4 роки тому +5

    Listening to you has given me great joy and peace. As I perceive the consolations of God have faded in me, I do view myself as growing in the love of God and neighbor. Thank you, Monsignor!

  • @_Gareath
    @_Gareath 4 роки тому +7

    Many thanks Bishop Barron for sharing your knowledge through word on fire shows like this.

  • @markm.5756
    @markm.5756 4 роки тому +2

    The Michael Voris and Taylor Marshall and Remnant TV and all that angst depresses me, claiming 'Francis' - they never say Pope Francis, is a heretic and that Novus Ordo and anything since 1962 is demonic - all of it - is depressing. Mother Teresa and St. JPII (whom they claim may also have been a heretic) creates division and almost a Trump/Obama kind of division. I know - I've just returned from a tour of Israel - and most of the Catholics on the tour are pro-Trump and claim that Obama was evil - and this group is led by supposed sincere Catholics. My conclusion is to read and learn from the Church Fathers, to learn from Bishop Barron (whom they also detest because of the 'Dare We Hope' theology) and follow the Holy Spirit, with Mother Mary's guidance, to learn and grow in my Faith - and of course read Holy Scripture and follow Jesus Christ to the best of my ability, with His help. Thank you Bishop Barron.

    • @az9448
      @az9448 4 роки тому

      Thank you for expressing everything that I am feeling as well.

  • @danielsute7133
    @danielsute7133 4 роки тому +8

    I genuinely appreciate the principles outlined in this video as helpful in discerning the movements of the spirit of God.
    To return to the initial question, however, as to how to choose Catholic media, Church militant and Taylor Marshall come to mind as youtubers who are probably being referenced as causing feelings of anger and agitation in their viewers.
    In order to more completely understand how to discern if their ministries are from the spirit of God, I would ask: would the Spirit of God, in the event of a synod of the Church publishing videos of themselves bowing down to a statue which was identified by name as a pagan goddess, want His people to feel anger and agitation? If not, how do we understand the anger and agitation the Holy Spirit inspired when pagan deities were being worshipped in the temple in the book of Maccabees, when a golden calf was being worshipped in the book of Exodus, or when incest and adultery was taking place in the Church of Corinth?
    I’m not asking this to undermine the content of this video, but because I’m genuinely interested in learning how to better discern what the Holy Spirit wants of me emotionally after viewing videos of the Pachamama statue being bowed down to at the Vatican. I would also like to receive guidance in understanding the biblical precedences for anger and agitation when sin warranted this response.

    • @el-sig2249
      @el-sig2249 4 роки тому +3

      You're right on point: anything that is clearly defined in scripture is already discerned. When you have a strong moral compass (a well formed conscience based on scripture and Traditional Church teaching), and receive the sacraments regularly; then you'll find it easier to know and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit.

    • @lld3007
      @lld3007 4 роки тому +6

      I’m glad you brought this up, because I have been feeling the same way. Should we be angry about the pachamamas and what happened at the Amazon synod? Yes, of course! That is a righteous anger, and the lack of anger over that situation would actually be a problem.
      However, the question is what do we DO with that anger? The problem with some of those youtubers is that they resort to mudslinging, bitterness, and character attacks. Rather than viewing the fallen priests and cardinals and even the pope as wounded family members who need to be brought back into the fold, they throw stones and treat them as enemies beyond redemption. That is where they are wrong, and that is what sows contempt.
      We need to pray for those involved, that they will return to the truth of the Catholic Church, and away from pagan ideologies, while ourselves remaining firmly rooted in the truth and correcting their errors...WITH CHARITY and humility.
      There is a lack of humility and charity in some of those movements. The devil always uses pride against Catholics who are blessed to see tradition, so we must be on guard against that.

    • @marypinakat8594
      @marypinakat8594 4 роки тому +2

      @@lld3007
      Well phrased. Thank you.

    • @johncolumba7945
      @johncolumba7945 4 роки тому +1

      Is the said passion of anger moved by the Holy Spirit or by another spirit (our own human spirit / ego; or the demonic). One sign that our passions are being roused by a false-spirit is that the passions will cloud the intellect and harden the will in a given judgement / perception of a given scenario or case; so that neither the intellect is open to reason, nor the will to changing its stance, should information come to light that contradicts the initial trigger and our first reaction (emotionally, intellectually, volitionally). Righteous anger will always lead to further obedience of the intellect and will to God, the Magesterium and the teachings of the Church. Pseudo-righteous anger in a Catholic will lead one to bow to one's concept of God, one's concept of the Magesterium, and one's own personal grasp of Church teaching - but not to these sources of authority in reality.
      E.g. Hence some folks might reject Vatican II, despite it also formulating two dogmatic documents (Dei Verbum & Lumen Gentium), under the pretext of zeal for the Lord and Catholic Truth. But they bow only to their concept of the Magesterium and Church Teaching, not to the living reality. They have been deceived, and their "righteous anger" is unmasked as of the false-spirit because it begets disobedience of the mind and will to the Magesterium of God's Church, that does not exist in the clouds, nor in their heads, but on earth, in the members God has appointed to such offices of authority (whatever their personal holiness or lack thereof).

    • @danielsute7133
      @danielsute7133 4 роки тому

      John Columba that’s a great response. How do you process Amoris opening communion to divorced and civilly remarried, not living as brother and sister, without annulment? This is the only question I have that I can’t figure out how to reconcile with the magisterium as it is while also holding to the deposit of faith.

  • @zenoguard8358
    @zenoguard8358 4 роки тому +18

    Bishop Robert Barron, can you please pray that my intention is granted? I've been praying for 2 years with no change, but I'm confident that your prayers will be sufficient to at last give me the blessing I desired for so long.
    God Bless!

    • @anthonyburke3000
      @anthonyburke3000 4 роки тому +10

      Just a suggestion, whenever you pray for this blessing that you desire, you should conclude with: not mine but Your Will be done!
      And then ask St. Anthony to pray for you.

    • @nickkraw1
      @nickkraw1 4 роки тому +4

      Anthony Burke I can vouch for St Anthony. St Therese is amazing too. Or ask why He hasn’t given it to you yet and ask if He has something better in mind?

    • @ketinporta4994
      @ketinporta4994 4 роки тому +2

      Zeno Guard I pray for your intentions!! God bless you

    • @victorugo2654
      @victorugo2654 4 роки тому +1

      Sometimes the will of God is giving something better instead. You will see it later..

    • @zenoguard8358
      @zenoguard8358 4 роки тому

      Victor Ugo That's not possible.
      This isn't like me asking to be a programmer when God wants to make me a CEO instead, with this prayer, It's either granted or denied, but there is no better "variant" of it.

  • @timwalsh6283
    @timwalsh6283 4 роки тому +6

    Excellent discussion and clarification on this difficult idea. I can't wait for the film on the 7 sacraments!

  • @anthonyburke3000
    @anthonyburke3000 4 роки тому +14

    I listen to multiple Catholic sources, including Church Militant (who tends to be over critical at times) but it's good to do your research. We should remember that we're all Catholic and we all have our concerns for the Church. We shouldn't shut the door on each other but listen, discern and remember what the Lord has prayed for us: 'that they may all be one'.

    • @anthonyburke3000
      @anthonyburke3000 4 роки тому +1

      @@precisi0n86
      I watch Alex as well. He's revealed some real things before. I don't trust everything he says but that doesn't mean I shouldn't listen.
      Church militant has some interesting things to say as well and they're legitimate concerns, more legitimate half the time than Alex.

    • @xaviervelascosuarez
      @xaviervelascosuarez 4 роки тому +8

      They're vultures that only feed on carrion. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but they sow anxiety, division and a climate of revolt and disobedience towards the successor of Peter, by means that reveal no qualms in resorting to slander, guilt by association and interpreting sayings and gestures in the worst possible light. In other words, they're doing the devil's bidding, so unwittingly that it would be pathetic if it wasn't so tragic, since their (honest, in my opinion) intentions are precisely to attack those who are also doing (knowingly, in my opinion) the devil's bidding.
      What frustrates me is that they're attracting more and more people, because people are starving for good doctrine and solid intellectual food and what they find everywhere else is "dumbed down Catholicism". That's why we need more Bishops Barron, more initiatives that lure people into a fuller fidelity to the faith, because the "trads" (as they call themselves) are decidedly drifting into a position of open disobedience. In their tragic attempt to blast heterodoxy, they end up in heresy themselves by flaunting the doctrine of the supremacy of the bishop of Rome, arguably the only one that separates us from all other Christians. They harshly and justifiably criticize the lack of faith (or downright evil intent) of so many bishops and cardinals (and the Pope himself, though not justifiably, in my opinion) and don't seem to realize that they too are guilty of the same, for they seem to have lost faith in the words of Jesus when he promised Peter a special assistance from the Holy Spirit, or they lost faith in the Holy Spirit himself.

    • @anthonyburke3000
      @anthonyburke3000 4 роки тому +3

      @@xaviervelascosuarez
      I like them because I'm a traditionalist. I'm in my mid-30's and a cradle Catholic. I've recently been learning how to pray in Latin. I believe one of the reasons for the loss of people in the Church is a turning away from tradition. One of the worst practices we've adopted is receiving communion in the hand.
      A famous protestant once asked, 'if Catholics believe what they say they believe about the Eucharist, then wouldn't they be receiving communion prostrate on the ground?"
      The Novus Ordo, in my opinion, was an attempt to appeal to protestants and outsiders. Truth is, if I wanted to be a protestant then I'd have joined a protestant church.
      This is not to say that the N.O. is all bad, just that there are practices within it which I believe need refinement.
      All this aside, whatever side of the spectrum you find yourself on, I think it's imprudent to turn away and not have a healthy discussion or debate about each other's concerns.
      As I stated before, we're all Catholic and we should listen attentively to one another with compassion and patience. And with the Grace of God we may not only maintain our bonds but strengthen them.

    • @marypinakat8594
      @marypinakat8594 4 роки тому

      Anthony Burke,
      Why would you need to attempt to win Bishop Barron's favour? Or advice Bishop Barron on what he ought to know.
      *Bishop Barron has the best Video (in 33 minutes duration) on 'How to Discern the Sprits'.*
      What next?

    • @anthonyburke3000
      @anthonyburke3000 4 роки тому

      @@marypinakat8594
      I'm not attempting to win favor or to advise. I'm simply stating my opinion. But the good Bishop already faces opposition every day and is able to handle any criticism.
      I like Bishop Barron, we both grew up in the Chicago land area and he's a fantastic Bishop. I'd like him to possibly be Pope some day or at least a Papal Adviser, someone who has more direct influence on the Church as a whole.

  • @chrismckay7795
    @chrismckay7795 4 роки тому +3

    Hi Bishop Barren, please can you talk about the many things that happened at the Amazon synod recently? I am a catholic christian and its difficult trying to search for answers and the truth about why certain things happened during the synod e.g. worshipping a pagan idol in the Vatican grounds. Please can you talk about this? I enjoy hearing your wisdom when you talk about concerning issues, so please can you guide us with what happened at the Amazon synod. I'd really appreciate any thoughts you can offer :)
    - Chris

  • @yakublugun1945
    @yakublugun1945 4 роки тому +16

    God bless you.

  • @Denis-tg6jw
    @Denis-tg6jw 4 роки тому +8

    For the first time, last night, I watched the film (movie) "Silence". If we were all committed to faith as those priests and lay people were, there would be no need for a new evangelisation.

    • @ketinporta4994
      @ketinporta4994 4 роки тому +1

      Denis 1901 where did you watch it? Thanks :)

    • @polishmehappy
      @polishmehappy 4 роки тому +1

      @@ketinporta4994 I've watched this movie- it's on Netflix ( but check to make sure)

    • @Denis-tg6jw
      @Denis-tg6jw 4 роки тому +1

      ronnyandjamiejoy Sandvick it was shown on the BBC, the national broadcast service in Britain. It began at 22.00hrs, so not really user friendly for people going to work the next day. (I saw it on the digital catch up service).

    • @polishmehappy
      @polishmehappy 4 роки тому +1

      @@Denis-tg6jw I want to learn more about this movie. The one I mentioned above is not the same movie.

    • @Denis-tg6jw
      @Denis-tg6jw 4 роки тому +3

      polishmehappy the one I mean is "Silence" by Martin Scorsese. It is about the 16th century efforts by the Jesuits to evangelise Japan and the savage repression of Christianity the followed.

  • @ericlucas82
    @ericlucas82 4 роки тому +7

    This is so wonderful. Thanks be to God.

  • @praxidescentenoortiz9664
    @praxidescentenoortiz9664 4 роки тому +2

    I'm with fever think but i'm fine i can't feel me bad i feel only that i'm tired of breath and no have pills only in the hands of God cause i don't imaginé that i 'll be fever. God bless you all. Thank you all!😇

  • @guygeorgesvoet4177
    @guygeorgesvoet4177 4 роки тому +4

    thank you for the patience in discerning the Spirit that let you to the priesthood, Bishop Barron.

  • @Retrogamer71
    @Retrogamer71 4 роки тому +13

    Now hearing this, I'm very intrigued.
    Timothy Gallagher, The Discernment of Spirits.

    • @tammiecurrie930
      @tammiecurrie930 4 роки тому +1

      I will definitely be checking this book out!

  • @alexpardon585
    @alexpardon585 4 роки тому +9

    I really needed this, thank you both

  • @melissapatino4218
    @melissapatino4218 Рік тому +1

    I completed the Ignatian Spiritual Exercises in a 10-week session with Fr. Broom, and it was life changing. The acronym B.U.T stayed with me; Be aware of the good spirit or bad spirit in each situation, Understand if you are being tempted to sin by the bad spirit, Take action and reject the bad spirit. This simple acronym has been so helpful in my daily life to avoid sin and the near occasion of sin.
    Praise God, reverence God, and serve God.🙏🤲

  • @rev.jon2277
    @rev.jon2277 4 роки тому +2

    What I learned in spiritual discernment:
    What's a library?
    What is a book?
    What isa a bike?
    I really love both of you Bishop Barron and your tandem🤣🥰🤩

  • @maryannchaisson6742
    @maryannchaisson6742 4 роки тому +6

    I enjoy your talks Bishop, thank you. I do however have a question regarding the latest Synod in Rome? It appeared to me that idols were being worshipped at St. Peter’s! I pray I’m wrong, but would really appreciate you addressing this topic. 🙏🇨🇦

    • @nacholebra5757
      @nacholebra5757 4 роки тому +2

      Yes that is what was happening. A simple look up of Cardinals Pope Francis had appointed past September will give you an idea of what is going on. They are all moral relativist, pro gay, pro abortion. EWTN National Catholic Register Pope Francis Cardinal appointments.

    • @therealong
      @therealong 4 роки тому +3

      @@nacholebra5757
      Nothing is going on! Stop following the anti-Francis sites!

    • @nacholebra5757
      @nacholebra5757 4 роки тому +4

      Since when is The National Catholic Register or for that matter Church Militant subversive? Actually Pope Francis has been doing some very anti Catholic things and is causing much confusion. When Pope Francis is asked to clarify his remarks either he remains silent . Ignoring our Bishops questions.
      At the Amazon Synod when asked by reporters what certain terms he was using ment he refused to define simply stating"I want the confusion". This sounds to me like a answer Satan might give. This leads me to wonder by what spirit is he following ? And seeing the Cardinals he picked makes what spirit he is following evident. We have had our eyes closed and let very very evil men sell out our Church. After they're done ravaging it we will be lucky if anything is left. Pray and fight the Body of Christ is being assaulted and remember"the gates of hell shall not prevail against her". We fight we win, Come Lord Jesus Come!

    • @marypinakat8594
      @marypinakat8594 4 роки тому

      Mary Ann Chaisson,
      Who could be you?

    • @marypinakat8594
      @marypinakat8594 4 роки тому

      @@laleydelamor1327
      Hey, I have a question. How to discern the spirits? Expecting a reply/answer. Thank you.

  • @EucharistMiracles
    @EucharistMiracles 4 роки тому +24

    Emotions and feelings are definitely much less important than truth when descerning spirits. Jesus said he is the way the truth and the life. Not the emotions.

    • @heggemd
      @heggemd 4 роки тому +3

      Elias Catholicism it is a both/and, not an either/or.

    • @EucharistMiracles
      @EucharistMiracles 4 роки тому +2

      @@heggemd sometimes the truth doesnt invoke pleasant feelings. Sometimes it does. So, no, its not both.

    • @heggemd
      @heggemd 4 роки тому +1

      Elias Catholicism it isn’t only about pleasant feelings. When discussing discernment of spirits it is important to understand consolation and desolation in the context of St. Ignatius. I don’t believe you understand discernment of spirits as taught by St Ignatius, St Teresa of Avila, St John of the Cross and more.

    • @EucharistMiracles
      @EucharistMiracles 4 роки тому +1

      @@heggemd oh really? Please elaborate. Because it's not that complicated to me. Lies are of the devils. And God is TRUTH.

    • @HolyKhaaaaan
      @HolyKhaaaaan 4 роки тому +1

      I guess you didn't listen to the whole cast. The primary definition of consolation, as defined by Ignatius of Loyola, has more to do with your ability to Love God and neighbor. A consolation is something that makes it easier or more accessible to love God or love your neighbor. It may not necessarily make it feel better. But it will be really evident that you have done the good for your neighbor.

  • @cecilien9407
    @cecilien9407 4 роки тому +4

    This is lovely! Thank you from the Eastern Church.

  • @ketinporta4994
    @ketinporta4994 4 роки тому +7

    My ex was always being lead by “signs” he got from a medium, and he always said that that medium was leading him to always choosing “joyful feelings” no matter what. So, in my opinion FEELINGS ARE JUST THAT, feelings which tend to overpower your frontal cortex and block discernment. You no longer know what is real from what is not real. Which is worse, once there were no more “ honeymoon feelings” then he gets advice from the medium to move on to whatever situation will give him good FEELINGS... what a selfish and wasted life..

    • @CrustyMac300
      @CrustyMac300 4 роки тому +2

      ronnyandjamiejoy Sandvick Truly diabolical, so sad, pray for his soul

    • @ketinporta4994
      @ketinporta4994 4 роки тому

      I know... I do everyday, for myself, for him and for all those who are in the same boat. They well said, “ The biggest lie of the lier is to make people believe he does not exists”. I wish those like him ( “joyful “spiritualists )could witness their own exorcism one day so they may believe and be free.. but like the parable of the wealthy man, when Father Abraham said “ ...they have the prophets, let them listen to them- “ and he said that if lazaro comes back from the death they will listen but Father Abraham disagrees. I guess it’s all a matter of WILLINGNESS TO FOLLOW GOD- for the sake of God no matter what He allows in our lives. God bless you all♥️🙏

    • @newbride63
      @newbride63 4 роки тому

      ronnyandjamiejoy Sandvick 7

  • @JesusIsLove2512
    @JesusIsLove2512 4 роки тому +2

    Praise the Lord Jesus Christ 🙏 Mother Mary Pray For Us 🙏Abba Father Bless us and we Adore You 🙏

  • @michaelp8856
    @michaelp8856 4 роки тому +1

    Check out Father Tim Gallagher's Discernment of Spirits series of videos. It is well worth the effort. He is one of the "leading" experts in Ignatian Spirituality. He is also a terrific priest.

  • @Abbi.beth-
    @Abbi.beth- Місяць тому

    I was born in a christian home, born in october 31st, my mom says I have the gift of discerning spirits, and I do. However, since I was a little girl, I've been always interested in Occultism, Witchcraft, etc. I've been watching horror movies as long as I can remember and I love to watch them, I also love Halloween. I'm a 100% believer, not a follower, but my faith is untouchable. I Don't know what to do, what is my purpose, If this has some sort of purpose, and why was I born with this attached to me. It feels like it. I'm 26 now, and want to start reading about Witchcraft, Occultism and all of that, I won't practice it, but I want to know. I don't know what to do.

  • @kimlersue
    @kimlersue 4 роки тому +6

    I asked Jesus in prayer: "Please help my to know You better." The answer was quick: "I am the TRUTH..You must abstain from lying, there are no white lies." By living in constant truth .. you WILL KNOW ME." That was 11 years ago. Yes, I DO know Jesus better, and I have abundant clarity and insight! "I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life!"

    • @annajuarez8883
      @annajuarez8883 4 роки тому +1

      Once you decided to tell only the truth, did it seem like the devil tried harder to make you lie? I had a couple of incidents. The one that bothered me most was a pesky handyman who rang my doorbell and would not leave me alone until, finally, I broke down and lied saying that I don't own the house and only rent. Naturally, I confessed my sin but I need to learn to say "no" in an effective way.

    • @kimlersue
      @kimlersue 4 роки тому

      YES! But Jesus helped me by pushing at me to correct the lie..then and there! Boy is that a great motivator for truth telling..lol. More than a few times in 1st weeks I had to say; "I'm sorry, that was a lie.." and then explain.
      For the repair man...Had I been in your shoes..now .."I am sorry but we do NOT need anything. now" ."I hope you find someone who does." Close door...and pray for him.
      As I said...the pay off is really knowing Jesus..and being filled w/Holy Spirit graces for clarity of thought ..discernment! Ask Jesus for this..and keep working at it.

    • @kimlersue
      @kimlersue 4 роки тому

      P.S. Another one is..give me your number/card and I'll keep it with my list, in case I need it in the future. Thank you...bye!

  • @jsjsjjdje9814
    @jsjsjjdje9814 4 роки тому +1

    Hey BB.. I asked God to answer what i should do. Stumbled across this video. I need to talk to you about becoming a priest or a monk maybe idk. I need help no one can seem to give.

  • @kawamagate2312
    @kawamagate2312 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for the series that you're doing. It is clarifying certain moments of my life and helping me to focus on God.

  • @debrapittman2603
    @debrapittman2603 3 роки тому

    Your the one who told Ben Shapiro he was fine and would make it to Heaven. When he told you he keeps the law and poor works. The Bible says you must be born again through Gods son Jesus Christ, you have to have a relationship with Jesus Christ. Doing good works, rituals will not save you. But the catholic church doesn't teach that you need to have a relationship with Jesus Christ to enter Heaven, John 3:16 -17, 1 John 5:12, Acts 4:12, Eph 2:8-9, Romans 3:23/6:23, John 14:6, Galations1:6-9, 1 Timothy 2:5. Abd much more I encourage everyone to read the bible and see what God wants. Discerning what is right comes from God and his word the bible. How can we teach others if we don't have it right and thats what I pray for for everyone to come bthe truth. Gods family is one body not 50 million factions 1 Corithians 12:12-27. Not 50 million religions all teaching different things, we are one body all following the word of God the bible. God did not create all these religions nor al, these denominations in Christianity that is not Gods church, something has gone terribly wrong Revelation 1 2,3 Jesys tells us what his church is, and who is not. There are going to be a lot of so called Christians who will not make it to Heaven why? Because they do not have Gods true son in their hearts, and because they lost the truth Mathew 7:21-23. God bless you all.

  • @jamesmaher1989
    @jamesmaher1989 4 роки тому +1

    My concern : what voice is Pope Francis a Jesuit listening to, or being led by as he ignores the divinity of Christ, and questions the existence of Hell despite what Jesus says and what is described in Revelations?

  • @leephillips1972
    @leephillips1972 11 місяців тому

    I'm feeling sad and what I wanted was going to move me away from God. The other person is a Priest. I'd hoped we could be friends. It came to me when he came to the door and put his hand out to shake hands and I thought it would be a hug. I became frozen. Just sat in a chair and watched him feel so uncomfortable. I was giving him a kneeler that my dad had made for me. It was a really big deal for me because I've always considered him a holy man. I wouldn't do anything to make him doubt his calling. It was as though he has such a low opinion of me. It still stings in my heart. He actually ran out the door. So, friendship is out of the question. oh. he was one of the many vicars at the church that I attended. It had been 16 years since I'd seen him. I hope that someone will read this from Bishop Robert Barrons office/organization. This would be a desolation for him. And I regret even giving the kneeler to him.

  • @busingyechristinetina1385
    @busingyechristinetina1385 Рік тому +2

    I'm grateful this found me at the right time

  • @AuggieHsu
    @AuggieHsu 2 роки тому

    Bishop Barron apparently didn't read St. Ignatius' autobiography. Otherwise he couldn't get so wrong on the two books that St. Ignatius read during his recovery.

  • @gitboxgal
    @gitboxgal 4 роки тому +2

    We all have to know the word of God for ourselves-that is our responsibility.

  • @praxidescenteno3233
    @praxidescenteno3233 4 роки тому +1

    I wanna be only together Jesús Christ! 😇😇😇 Beloved God! Ever God bless all!

  • @serga7486
    @serga7486 Рік тому

    Well alright glad I found this one I think
    Edit: nevermind it’s colossally unreliable

  • @cherierobinson8713
    @cherierobinson8713 3 роки тому +1

    For my life I need to be able to discern the spirit of a person and pick up problems that will keep me safe. I’ve been deceived in the past by friendly people who were never supposed to be in my life.

  • @TerryAnnGillette
    @TerryAnnGillette 4 роки тому +1

    Thankyou!🕊💖✨Very helpful!😊This is a gem of a talk; a gem with many facets of which each point and all of them are so rich in ideas to contemplate in many many helpful ways.

  • @reginaclaire4680
    @reginaclaire4680 9 місяців тому

    this is key. my oroblem is i discern correctly but then try to fight the bad spirits rather than avoid them. I tend to try to crush their heads with my bare feet. but i inevitable get wounded too. shoukd i avoid or fight to crush?

  • @johnmartin4650
    @johnmartin4650 Рік тому

    If there’s continual controversy it’s probably not very good…..

  • @tammiecurrie930
    @tammiecurrie930 4 роки тому +2

    This is monumental right now for me, thank u Holy Spirit.

  • @kristinakader1940
    @kristinakader1940 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you father for sharing this with us 🙏🏻👍🏻❤️

  • @pattygarnica4871
    @pattygarnica4871 4 роки тому +1

    Bishop how are you happen mass mass every day miss your mass thank you share god virgen maria blessing all time👍🌹

  • @Philip-uy3bx
    @Philip-uy3bx Рік тому

    Despite Spitzer's hare certainly coming to life ore deathly.

  • @lauradahlus
    @lauradahlus Рік тому

    Going only by feelings is not the wisest thing to do.. Logic and theology is also important to gage things..🙃

  • @patriciafitch2432
    @patriciafitch2432 3 роки тому

    Brandon speaks too much...Let Bishop Barron do the talking

  • @marylougeoghan6174
    @marylougeoghan6174 4 роки тому +1

    Wow I was led to Father Barron through my news feed on Facebook. In turn I was drawn to one pod cast after another and can't wait each day to hear more

  • @nicost72
    @nicost72 4 місяці тому

    Thanks, in many ways exactly what I needed right now