The early church was Catholic. Not Baptist or Protestant.
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2022
- History tells us that there was one church for the first 1000 years of Christianity, and then that Church split into 2. The Eastern church is called Orthodox, and the western church is called Catholic. Then about 500 years later several groups broke off from the Catholic church and divided into thousands of denominations. this event, we call the Protestant Reformation, and the church lost about a 3rd of Europe. Every Christian group that exists today, other than the Orthodox and Catholic churches, comes from the Protestant Reformation. This is an historical fact.
However, some very fundamental Protestants deny this fact. They say that they were the original church. And that their structure, worship styles and beliefs were the original. And that in the 4th century the Emperor Constantine instituted Roman Catholicism, driving the true church underground. mixing Roman paganism in with the true faith resulting in the various catholic beliefs that differ from their beliefs.
Beautiful opening shot of the (very) First Baptist Church in Providence, RI...the city where I was born. Fifteen years ago, after studying genealogical records, I came to understand that my first ancestor came in 1627 with Roger Williams and participated in the establishment of the First Baptist Church in Providence. I was born Roman Catholic and am finally back on track in my returning to her. I am looking forward to future uploads.
Peace of Christ be with you all.
you were born a child with CHOICE, not into a religion.
I am glad you are returning to the rich heritage your parents prepared for you in Christ. Welcome Back Home, my brother.
You have a guaranteed view from me every time you upload. Thank you for your channel. Viva Christo Rey
Thank you very much, Viva Christo Rey
@@imisschristendom5293 The heretics were not Catholics in two ways, sometimes one or another or both: the structure and the beliefs. Donatists, for example, were not Catholics by structural reforms, but not Catholics by beliefs.
@@clarekuehn4372 #1--Where in the Bible does God REST on the first day of the week to make that day special?
#2--Where in the Bible does God BLESS the first day of the week to make that day special?
#3Where in the Bible does God SANCTIFY the first day of the week to make that day special?
#4--Where in the Bible does God give a name the first day of the week to make that day special?
#5--Where in the Bible does God DECLARE the first day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special?
(Sunday keepers don’t realize that when they keep Sunday holy they are making a day holy that man ordained, not God, by doing that they have violated the 2nd commandment by making an image, they also violate the 4th commandment and the 9th commandment by lying about the Sabbath being changed to Sunday. I’m sure you could find a few different commandments that are broken by keeping Sunday. That’s why the Bible says if you break one commandment you break them all. Please open your eyes brothers and sisters that keep Sunday before it is to late!)
#6--Quote the Holy Bible that says Mary prayed to/with beads.
#7--Quote the Holy Bible that says Mary went to/ will go to heaven.
#8--Quote the Holy Bible that says Mary is an mediator/intercessor.
#9--Quote the Holy Bible that says Mary remained a virgin all her life.
#10--Quote the Holy Bible that says Mary did not sin.
#11--Quote the Holy Bible that says a mere man is Head of the church.
#12--Quote the Holy Bible that says there are popes in God's kingdom.
#13--Quote the Holy Bible that says we are to confess our sins to a
priest.
#14--Quote the Holy Bible that says there is an "one holy Apolistic church?
#15--Quote the Holy Bible that says the seventh day is not the Sabbath.
#16--Quote the Holy Bible that says Rome is where Jesus will have His headquarters.
#17--Quote the Holy Bible that says Peter was in Rome.
#18--Quote the Holy Bible that says Mary is the Ark of the covenant.
>>>FACT: I have asked OVER 100 supposed experts on Catholicism to reply to those questions.
All I have received are out of context quotes, told to watch this or that video, or no reply at all!!!
Will you answer them???? At least the first 5 basic questions FROM THE BIBLE.
John the Baptist did not found a church; he prepared the way for Jesus.
Lies again? Bio Perine USD SGD
This channel has been absolutely instrumental in introducing, and informing me and my friends of many church teachings as we are on our way to becoming confirmed into the church, thank you
Thats Awesome, glad you guys are entering the church. And glad I could help
Confirmed? If you will believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ and repent from your sins, ask God to forgive you of your sins, you will be born again and made part of Christ's true church.
@@katanatac clearly you haven't watched this channel enough
@@gagemullis313 How much more do you need to see the truth?
@@imisschristendom5293 He joined your Egg-laying Easter Bunny Church.
Good video. Nice and concise and to the point. I’d really like to see a video on each of the core contentions between Protestants and Catholics such as the real presence at the Eucharist, baptismal regeneration and the sacraments
The Baptists claim they come from John the Baptist. So they are the real church. I laughed when I heard that.
Laugh all the way to hell, sprinkling babies and kissing the feet of idols.
@@a.d.marshall2748 Ok dood all real biblical right there. Have fun waiting for the rapture.
That is not right either but you must be careful to laugh out loud. Only the devil laugh.
Funny as that is, it doesn't sound like a mainline view at all. I think Baptists tend to argue that they have a better grasp on the "spirit" of the Apostolic age than other churches, but they don't say most of the other churches are heretical, just that they don't know the full truth. In the South, you'll have some weird splinter of splinter groups that come up with crazy stuff like what that guy said to you.
The Christian hating gnostic sect Mandeans who taught heresy to some western esoteric groups over the millennia (when they were much more powerful) claim they came from John the Baptists. The Baptists need to learn a great deal of history it would seem.😉
Great videos! Keep up good work.
This is a very good video. I'll watch this again and again
The first Biblical[1] reference to the word is found in Acts 9:31 when speaking about “the church throughout [all] Judea, Galilee, and Samaria…”. The words “throughout” and “all” are καθ (κατά) and ὅλης (ὅλος) respectively in Greek, which together come to form the word καθολικός.
The first Christian churches within the Roman Empire, therefore as a whole were Catholic but NOT *"Roman"* Catholic only
The book of Acts ends with the Church in Rome
The Book of Acts is mainly about the introduction to the Holy Spirit and the enabling power of the Spirit in the lives of believers. It's *NOT* about Roman domination
The term "Roman Catholic" was coined by the Church of England, which calls/called itself Catholic, despite being founded in the 16th century.
The terms "Romish Catholic" and "Roman Catholic", along with "Popish Catholic", were brought into use in the English language chiefly by adherents of the Church of England.
The terms "Romish Catholic" and "Roman Catholic", along with "Popish Catholic", were brought into use in the English language chiefly by adherents of the Church of England.
As a Southern Baptist, I’m surrounded by people who do not adhere to this thinking, but I think it is due to the lack of desire for historical evidence. Hearing people make jokes or question Catholic faith makes me cringe. I urge those people to take pause and at least show respect to people who take insults all of the time yet maintain their faith. I think we Protestants have it easy because when we have controversy, people blame a splinter of a splinter of a church denomination. We leave for simple reasons, and set up shop somewhere else on a whim. When the Catholic faith suffers controversy, people like to blame the whole church. Anyone who knows the history must acknowledge the Roman Catholic and Orthodox Catholic churches for their practice and history. I admire and respect you all. God bless.
Thank you for remembering to say Orthodox Catholic. ☦️❤️🔥🙏🏻
I think you would be happy as a Catholic. Please come home to the only church that Jesus founded the Catholic Church.😊
Come home to One Holy Catholic Apostlic Church
As a Catholic I must say you are very respectful to the Catholic Church.Thank you for that.Many blessings to you and to your family.I respect your faith too
Jesus was insulted, humiliated, mocked, beat, spit on, killed why would we think the same wouldn’t happen to us. Honestly, I use the same words as Christ, “forgive them Father for they know not what they do.” If we’re insulted for Christ it is assurance of our position. I understand what you’re saying… but count it the cost to being on the path.
You are forgetting the Coptic Christians which still exist which broke off about 500 AD. Also the early church wasn't really Catholic as we use the word today to mean "Roman Catholic", it was just the Church. Your description is better than the title, but still misses Coptic Christianity.
Agreed - the original followers of Christ and their followers (known as the early church fathers), became the Orthodox Church. They have not changed since the days of the disciples and apostles. The Roman Catholic Church split off and made changes to the original Orthodox beliefs regarding the nature of Christ. In the end, it is a shame that all Christians cannot unite as “the Church.” Christ doesn’t want his bride to be split - that was the work of Satan and it’s getting worse and worse.
True but they have now been united.
St Ignatius of Antioch used the word "Catholic" to describe the church in a letter circa 107 AD. He was a disciple of Peter and John. The way he used the world Catholic shows that it had been around for some time as he didn't have to explain it. There is even a chance that St. John may have used it first to coin it as the Catholic Church and Ignatius was the first to write of the early Church as Catholic.
@@catholicman8135 Amen Brother! These "Historians" need to read the Early Church Fathers. Clement of Rome was ordained by Peter and was the fourth Pope (Bishop of Rome). I like how people say well this group broke off and so did this group so the Catholic church is wrong. I say, read the bible and study the history of the Church. It wasn't Protestant or Baptist it was and still is Catholic. The Catholic Church has the writings of the Early Church Fathers, Padre Pio, St Faustina, the Eucharist, and a long history, 2,000 years of history. No matter what people in the church as well as outside of the church have done to undermine it, she still stands just as Jesus said it would.
@@catholicman8135 John wrote in Hebrew and it would be very unlikely that he wrote Catholic. John would have more likely used "olami" [עולמי = universal].
Acts says it was at Antioch that the first followers of Christ were simply called CHRISTIANS, and none of the above. Denominational church names like Catholic, Orthodox, Baptists, etc were yet to be dreamed up.
The catholic term was first mentioned in the first century, when Apostle John was still alive.
@@kenxplayer3563 Evidence?
@@71Fenderv22 Ignatius of Antioch, who wrote around A.D. 107, while being taken to Rome for execution.
Just search it bro
@@71Fenderv22 The church father St. Ignatius of Antioch's first known use of "Catholic" was in his Letter to the Smyrnaeans (circa 110 AD). Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Catholic". Encyclopædia Britannica. Vol. 5 (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. p. 532.
@@71Fenderv22 It makes more sense that protestants are what they're just because they have a huge lack of knowledge about true christian faith, but don't let ignorance take advantage of you
Have you considered doing a video on true devotion to Mary, and the consecration to Our Lord through Her? Your way of explanation is lovely and this topic would do well by your treatment, just like you did on indulgences.
Thank you very much. Thats a good suggestion.
Im planning on tackling " Catholics worship Mary" so that would be a good angle of explanation.
@@imisschristendom5293 Cover the claims that "Mary is Isis/Jesus the Sun" in art (except as likening, which they are affiliated in art). Please watch these claims carefully, though the people , to do a real rebuttal. (Donatists were not Catholic; only as structures not as orthodox Roman Catholicism: heresies.) Thanks.
Mother of God is our Holy Marry, we pray trough her sometimes because it's teached and she prays for us. Every Christian (Catholic) prays to marry. Orthodox-Catholics and Roman-Catholics
Protestants don't sadly, but they left the Church.
Ah yes , the cult of Mary. The scheme of the early church to attract Mithra (and other female deity worshippers) into the church, replacing their deity with Mary.
NOT sanctioned ANYWHERE in Scripture.
The Catholic church once SOLD indulgences to make even more money, even though it was already incredibly wealthy.
I believe I read something about Jesus throwing moneychangers out of the Temple.
@@krachtdesvolkslaatnederlan3562 Jesus spoke of prayIng to the Father. NO INTERMEDIARIES NECESSARY.
The origins of the Catholic cult of Mary are well known, and the Protestants rightfully reject that practice.
Thank you for the title of the video! It is true Our Orthodox church is Catholic Apostolic without a broken line of succesion.
Thanks again for speaking against heresy. I can't begin to explain how hard it is to get protestants to understand the early Christians were of the Catholic Church, especially to charismatics.
Trust me I know.
I've tried explaining these things to Oneness Pentecostals, they just throw out-of-context passages from the book of Acts at me
Does salvation come from works, or grace, or a combination of both?
Convince them by showing the scriptures, where the Author of Hebrews says that the bishop And the saints died for their sins and they intercede for them to the father
Show the verses where Jesus, Paul, Peter all command them to pray to the saints
Please help me find references in the word for above, so that I can convince my protestant friends
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,not a result of works, so that no one may boast.For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 2:8-2:10
Is there a specific place I can find all these letters from the church fathers?
www.earlychristianwritings.com/churchfathers.html
I get them from my priest in my Orthodox Church (Catholic Apostolic Church without western reformation). But the link above might be useful to.
I am catholic, thank you for uploading this video, I respect it very much and I respect you for coming forward with the proof you have!! God bless you have a great day❤❤❤📿
Correct, only if “catholic” means universal (as in one body) and NOT the Roman bureaucracy!
No, it is the identity of the only church established by Jesus. In the first century it was headquartered in Rome and it still is today.
Actually, if you read the writings of the students of the Apostles, they "literally" stated that the name of The Christian Church was "The Catholic Church" as a name, not a verb.
This is documented Christian history.
Have you ever read The Apostolic Fathers?
The most persecuted Church is no other than the True Church. "If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you." Jn 15:20.
Oh please! The Vatican is NOT christian. And stop with the projection. The Vatican burned christians for the “heresy” of translating the Bible into a language that the people could understand.
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I listened to your videos every time, they're very much informative. Keep on sending out the information about our faith. Can you please get the information about Jehovah's witness 144 000 people.
It's usually better to not try understand crazy people, because it will make you go crazy! 😂 There are ex-Jehovah's Witnesses on UA-cam who are great at covering the basics, if you want to evangelize to a Jehovah's Witness. I can't remember any of their names, unfortunately! 😅
That event in 1517, I call "The Protestant Rebellion."
The first of the attacks on Catholicism, followed by Freemasonry in 1717 & Communism in 1917. The fact that all these satanic attacks have failed is proof of the divine origin & protection of His One True Church.
Other than the Orthodox, all others are heretical pretenders with the confusion, division & scandal of 000’s of sects caused by personal interpretation, which is not of Jesus who willed unity Jn 17 11-23. Protestantism should be ashamed of causing the scourge of relativism resulting from many “truths”
how about Protestant Revolt?
They revolted from the revolting errors of Rome
@@Pablo-gl9dj My suggestion to you is that you get to know what the Catholic Church actually teaches. As Fulton Sheen said, you can't find ten people who hate the Catholic Church, but you find millions who hate what they think is the Catholic Church.
It was a satanic revolt against the mystical body of Christ on earth the holy Catholic Church. Please read my other comment
According to secular history the Catholic church was founded in about 330 AD by Emperor Constantine who declared himself by the title Pontifex Maximus which was adopted by popes.
Thank you! I wish you could have included even more statements from the early Church Fathers as further evidence building up makes the case stronger, but this is a good start!
The response I get from a pastor(s) is "those are false doctrines." 😂 I ask them their source, they say got questions. That's when I realized there was no reason to even use logic with the pastor, he sounded like a child just making up lies to win or something. History is important.
Each seminary is going to teach *only* their viewpoint. This is how he was taught to argue. Catholics would do well to teach better ways of arguing to their Priests and laypeople, instead of focusing on preaching to the choir. I saw an Orthodox convert from Protestant responding to "that's not in the Bible" with, "okay, but can you tell me who made the Bible?" That's a great way to start out.
Protestantism literally shuts down a persons ability to think logically
@@Poodle_Gun Every Catholic Priest studies Philosophy and Theology in the Seminary.
@@user-lh5li8ll7iSin darkens the intellect.
Maybe point out to him Protestants removed seven books from their Bible, partly because it contradicts Sola Scriptura. Also James 2:14-26 refutes Sola Fide and they have James in their Bible.
Great video
THANK. YOU.
THANK YOU!
Protestant Bibles had the Deuterocanonic books till the 19 century, they were called “apocrypha” and labelled as “good to read, but not for doctrine”
The douay-Reims is the only ‘Bible’ worthy of the name.
The King James translation from 1611 had the Deuterocanonic books in it? Don't think so, but nice try.
@@stephenash777 it did
Protestant Bibles used only Catholic books in all their bibles! There isn't one Protestant book in any of their bibles. 😊
Well, in the early Church, clergy were married, people stood during the Eucharist, drank from the cup, there was no Filioque, and no private revelations were introduced into the liturgy
Clergyman were married lol give 20 examples from contemporary sources
@@clempat4
…..you realize Peter was married, right? The people Catholics claim was “the first pope”.
Celibacy among priests is a matter of discipline, not dogma. It can always be changed. Eastern Catholic priests may marry.
@@Scotchism
It is required in order to be ordained a Catholic priest. You can say it isn’t dogma but if it’s a requirement with no exceptions (I’ve never met a married Catholic priest and I was a Catholic for more than half my life), it might as well be.
Emperor Justinian put his hymn to the Only-Begotten Son in the Divine Liturgy.
“Catholic “ as defined as “universal “ NOT “Roman Catholic “!!!! Period.
And your sect or denomination can not be revealed because if you reveal your sect, we will find out that is a fake church.
Ok, seriously, if you're honest christian, what sect or denomination you belong to? Don't be deceitful, telling us simply bible believing christian. You got your own congregation. What is it?
“One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church,” says the Creed. Not, “One, Holy, Universal, and Apostolic Church.”
@@Ryan_ChristopherCatholic comes from a Greek word that means universal.
This is correct
The term "Roman Catholic " is a protestant innovation.
Why don’t you state YOUR case? It’s like you’re ALL terrified people will actually read their Bibles? It’s getting ridiculous. Who was Paul railing against his entire ministry?
Only the Catholic Church can trace herself back in history to the Church established by Christ in Matthew 16:18, which latter became Catholic because of its universal mission in Matthew 28:19.
The universal mission to me is the number one reason I'm leaning toward Catholicism over Orthodoxy.
Orthodox Church
@@Poodle_Guneastern orthodoxy has absolutely failed the great commission.
@@christophersalinas2722it sure seems that way to me
You just shot yourself in the foot.
Mt28v19 was not in the original text. It was added about 400 years later. The Catholic Church was started in 325AD.
My brothers and sisters in Christ I agree with you. A very interesting video you have provided only you have forgotten that the church existed in five different areas Rome, Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, and Jerusalem.
Antioch what's the place they were first called Christian. With that blessings and peace to you all
Polycarp went to Rome to confer with the Pope about the date of Easter. He didn't confer with the bishops of other cities. The letters of St. Ignatius of Antioch, A.D. 107, says the Church of Rome "holds the primacy."
@@wms72 All well and good, however Rome was not first. Therefore it cannot be said that all true Church derives from Rome. The Roman Church descends from Jerusalem Church, not the other way around. Otherwise if Rome was the beginning, then Jesus would have been crucified on a hill outside Rome,,, The Temple vail would have been torn in Rome,,, The garden tomb would have been in Rome, the resurrection would have been in Rome,, the Apostles in the upper room would been meeting in Rome,,, Jesus owuld have appeared in a Room in Rome,,,, the Ascension of Christ would have been from Rome,,,, the tongues of fire would have been upon the apostles in Rome and thus Rome would be first,,,,, did you catch that???? Good.
I thank God Almighty the Catholic church is the true Church of Jesus Christ 🕊✝️💙🕊✝️💜🕊✝️🤍
Yes Indeed 🙏 Amen ♥️
Great video!!
Thank you for your great video. I'm on my way to becoming Catholic, and my pentecostal friend isn't taking it well. I need information how to defend myself if it goes to it
Yay, Catholic convert here as well, one of the best things I ever did.
Go to Catholic answers they are a good source of Catholic info
As a Orthodox Catholic I can tell you. You don't have to defend yourself, you will carry your cross and be persecuted as a Christian and still Thank our Holy Lord for this honour as a sinner and unworthy servant of Him.
Tell your pentecostal friend about the love of our God Jesus Christ and his holy Mother, Mother of God.
Tell him what Catholicity means and how the first Church was Catholic and always was. And splitted into Roman-Catholic and Orthodox-Catholic. All others denominations left the Church. Invite him home to either one.
Spot on!
Jesus is the truth not a church. The problem is that all churches are managed by mortal mankind who cannot save so do not put your faith into THEM. A corrupt priest or bishop cannot save, only Christ does. Sin and judgement was taken care of at the cross. Sincere Israelites weren’t saved because they sacrificed animals or got circumcised, they were saved because they had believing loyalty to the true God
what are you trying to say?
Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church. He built it on Peter, the first pope.
Allegiance to Jesus Christ is through the sacraments. only ordained priests cannot loosen sin.
this is very important because salvation is for those who partake in the Eucharist (which is Jesus true flesh) & are without sin.
in summary: Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.
False! This is the heresy that evangelicals and protestants are staunchly against.. The arrogant belief that salvation only comes if you are part of the catholic church. Many church fathers and modern day catholics fail to understand is that the very basic yet most important foundation to attain salvation is the belief that Christ is Lord and God and he sacrificed himself for me, you and the entire world for our sins. So it doesn't matter if you are catholic, eastern orthodox or pentecostal.. You are saved if you believe in Christ.
@@subingeorgesajan7276 LOL, are you saying you're acknowledging that you're going against the Church fathers & still have the pride to think you're right?
are you saying you're unwilling to confess to a priest, someone who has authorization, and yet you think you'll be let into heaven with all that junk you have?
yeah, good luck with that.
there's only one Church that dates back to 33 AD & it holds the keys to heaven.
Prots never confess yet they think they're not defiled with unrighteousness. now that's arrogance. it's always been part of the True Faith to confess to a priest.
"nothing that defiles shall enter into it" (Rev. 21:27)
Grew up Catholic. Abused by a deacon.
Never felt the Holy Spirit one time in 15 years in this denomination. The pope is a man. Just a man. Fallible big time; especially this pope today. They are changing Jesus to fit the young people.
Sitting on your hands for an hour. Confessing to a Priest nope. My only high Priest is Jesus. I will pray for my church brothers and sisters.❤️
@@Solrac924. God already knows your sins. From then on, you repent, then sin no more. Why would anyone go through a mere mortal man for that? You do realize what you are preaching goes against everything Yeshua Christ Jesus said. Not to mention your attitude comes across very arrogant and judgmental. You haven’t the right to declare who will go to hell or not. Only Yah knows what is in a person’s heart. Only He may judge.
I just subscribed to your channel because you masterfully laid out the historocity of the Catholic Church. Though your research using highly credible sources you proved it is The One True Apostlic Catholic Church which is the original Church that came from Jesus Christ.
No...they simply followed christ. The word you take from "katholikos" simply means Universal or all the churches. As it was used in acts to describe the churches they had set up so far. It was never the brand for the churches it simply described the many of them.
As for the veneration of mary, the saints and angels! Let's go over them one at a time with scripture not opinion.
Luke 11:27
27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”
28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it
Also let us not forget when his mother and brothers were trying to simply get his attention to come in and speak with him. He instead told the crowd that any who follow his father's will is his mother, his brother and sister.
As for the saints, let's not forget the many times people attempted to pray to or through the saints instead of christ. Take paul for example, happy that he had only baptised a few for their wrong teachings and belief. For some were claiming they followed under paul or Apollos
He then went on to exclaim it is not he that they should follow but christ and God, that there is only one intercessor, christ.
Same thing whenever anyone tried to worship angels. Only 3 angels were ever named in the bible yet the catholic doctrine names many...and relies on them for protection via amulets, same with saints.
Patron saints of protection, patron saints of the lost etc etc etc. Relying on a graven image to save you, which said saints openly admonished.
1 timothy 4
1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
6If you point these things out to the brothers and sisters, a you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, nourished on the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed. 7Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives’ tales; rather, train yourself to be godly. 8For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come. 9This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance. 10That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe
I also remember that part when Peter, burned people at the stake for reading the scriptures without his permission, like many of his Papal predecessors did in the future lol.
The Early Church was none of the denominations.
Jesus founded His One True Church Mt 16 18-19 that became known as Catholic or Universal by Ignatius in 107, codified your bible in 382. His Church is the pillar & foundation of Truth 1 Tim 3:15 & has existed, in spite of sinful men, for 2000 yrs, proof of its divine origin.
The fruits of sola Scriptura & personal interpretation, confusion, division & scandal of 000’s of sects when Jesus willed unity Jn 17 11-21.
Try combining Sacred Tradition, which existed before the NT, from the time of Jesus with Sacred Scripture under the unifying authoritative interpretation of the magisterium, the balanced three legged stool, far more rational & objective
So you are affirming that Jesus lied to Peter?
The Rock is Jesus
The Earliest Church was & is God Jesus not some man made denomination.
@@florinelenaradamilea I do agree, the catholic church isn't man made. Matthew 16:18-19
Apart from the catholic ...all others denominations are self man made...
Christianity itself is Catholic...even though am not a believer but a researcher and an agnostic thiest .... I appreciate this channel ... It speak the truth
I am an OLD cradle Catholic, (baptized Aug 30th ,1938) I got goose bumps when I read your text - Not sure what getting goose bumps means but I thought you should know. PEACE my Friend !
how can one be atheist and a agnostic at the same time lmao? So you believe in a God but you don't?
@@johnm.speight7983 Catholics don't have the baptism that Yeshua taught His disciples.
@@brandonedwards1181 not submit to believe in any religion because we cannot prove which religion is true base on their knowledge about God. So I am still in the process of searching which one is true.
Self-made? Good Friday is a Catholic creation. Making the Last Supper the Passover is a Catholic creation.
Why did the Catholic Church remove the Passover and replace it with the pagan Easter? Lent is pagan.
God's festivals were removed and pagan festivals were introduced. And the pagan feast of Oanus is now called Nativity of John.
So simplified as to be drastically wrong, and in capable of correction and a small comment. This from a philosophical theologian who is colleagues have been from many denominations.
Why restrict to Catholic vs Protestant/Baptist in Christianity and not mention, e.g., Armenian Apostolic already in year 300 even before Constantine declaration?
This sounds like a lot of Catholic quotes from ancient Roman Catholics. The early church started in Jerusalem, by you can guess it, THE JEWS. Jesus and the Apostles was Jews. Christianity evolved from there. In time, Christianity grew and grew, The early Christians was beat, arrested and killed, by you can guess it, the Romans. The early Apostles went out from Jerusalem and taught about Christianity, they were brave men and women willing to die for what they believed in, they believed in Jesus and Christianity. Rome was a bunch of pagans, worshipping idols, for a long time until the ruler Constantine made them become Christians and he was influenced by his mother, Thank God for mothers. Some where in time the Roman Catholic Church grew and grew, and a lot of denominations branched off or out from Catholicism, they protested the Catholic Church because they{the Catholics} were not going by the Bible, they had created man made doctrines and traditions, and some of them resembled the pagan rituals. Now we have a lot of denominations, but look at it on the good side IF they are Christians, the that is a Good thing. Catholics want to say they were the first, But Why is the word Catholic Not in the Bible, No mention of a Pope, We are All in the same boat of Christianity, trying to get to heaven and have eternal life, some just worship differently.
Spot on. Look what the Catholic church did to people. The early Catholics wasn't even allowed to have a bible.
You certainly have amassed a lot of ignorance
@@wms72 I Am amazed at the fact that a church does Not go completely by the Holy Bible and teaches their members to bow down to graven carved images, something God commanded man Not to do. A church that claims a wafer is Jesus, but has No power of Jesus. Claims to be responsible for establishing the Bible, but No mention of their church in the Bible.But YES, they are Christians because they accept Jesus as the Savior, the believe in Repentance and doing the will of God. So really who is ignorant, such a harsh unchristian thing to say.
@@wms72 I am amazed how some Catholics don’t know their Bible and don’t read it and just accept what the church teaches them like sheep.
@darryldavis436 I feel you hate the Catholic Church
Ah yes… I remember that part in Acts when the Apostles urged the Saints to confess the Marian Dogmas or they would be damned lol.
Nlt there
And you believe in predestination the most absurd thing
You really don't understand Mariology to comment
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Mary is not part of the Godhead.
She is dead, so let her RIP until the resurrection.
@@larrybedouin2921 please study Mariology you really don't know what you are saying.
First off both the eastern and orientalist orthodox churches have equally convincing historical claims to be the first church. Secondly, you are correct. The problem is the Catholic Church is a Theseus’ ship of the original church, An actual Hersey that contradicts scripture.
Yes, the heresies lurked in very early on, as Paul warned the new infant church: When the pagans came in, the original Nazarene sect of Jewish believers quickly turned into an established chatholic religion
You left out the smaller Council of Rome in 382 that originally created the canon.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Rome
I really like your videos, and they've been really helpful on my faith journey. I'm no longer Protestant. I left for different reasons, but I don't think I'll go back, because they lied about the Bible.
I want to help people understand Protestant beliefs, since I was Protestant for three decades and I know what I'm talking about. The only Protestant church I've noticed claiming to be "the One True Church" has been the Pentacostals. They're very quickly growing, and are probably going to go the route of completely heretical. I will say on the good side, Christians with legitimate gifts of prophecy don't have a place to go. This is somewhere they feel comfortable with their gifts. But they will have to move on eventually, so pray that they find their way to a non-Protestant church, even if there's just one person there with a legitimate prophetic gift. I believe Catholicism but s accepting of prophecy, although I could be wrong. I don't believe the Orthodox are.
Another group who thinks they're "the One True Church" is the Church of Christ. They're popular in the South, but have some strange views.
You're right about the trail of blood being an extremely fringe, almost cult. It's sort of like a church that broke off of the Duggar family church or something (hypothetically). It's almost in snake-handling territory.
The vast, vast 99% majority of Evangelical/Baptist-type believe that every church (Protestant, Catholic, the Orthodoxes, Churches of the East) are "The One True Church." They don't count Mormons or anything like that. Conservatives don't count liberal mainline churches. They also don't count churches that are way off the deep end, such as Westboro Baptist. These Protestants still think that other churches are in error, and many still try to convert non-Protestant and liberal Protestants to "better" theology.
I'm admittedly still trying to decide if I'm going to be Orthodox or Catholic, and would like prayer for a sign. It might take a little time for me to decide. Catholic vs Orthodox and the Schism reads like Hatfields vs McCoys to a Protestant. I can't make heads or tails about who's right. I'm reading each side's arguments, and I'm at the point where I have to stop, because it's stressful and confusing.
I want to add that, although I don't think I'll ever agree with you on every point, I'm not one to punch right, and the bottom line is that you've done a lot of good. I can't thank you enough!
Good luck in your discernment of Catholicism and Orthodoxy. I see you are looking for a sign from God. Look also to reason. God gave it to you and it is what separates us from the animals. What is true by faith must be true by reason. What is true by reason must also be true by faith. There is no getting around the fact that orthodoxy accepted the office of the pope for 1000 years, and then rejected it. Truth cannot contradict itself or it is not truth. That is the 'principle of noncontradiction' in action. IMO orthodoxy is just a way for protestants to have sacraments and liturgy and still feel good about rejecting Rome.
Read Mat 16 and Isaiah 22. "The keys to the kingdom" means the Royal Steward, or the Prime Minister to the King. Orthodoxy is just a different form of protest.
I will pray for you to become Catholic. Its the one true church of Christ, and Christ placed Peter as head and his successors to guide his church, its biblical. The Orthodox ignore the pope, who Christ put in place. I understand some, because in history we have had some bad popes, but Jesus always surrounded himself with the worst sinners. The orthodox broke off of the original church from Jesus.
Before you go Roman Catholic you should try LCMS (Lutheran). Unlike Baptists and Pentacostals, our church is not a reboot or an attempted reboot. We retained all the customs and practices which were not contrary to God's word, but jettisoned those that were. We still make use of the liturgical style of worship (divine service), and believe in the real presence during communion. We are the western Catholic church purified of the papacy and it's corruption. You should at least try LCMS before going to these other systems. However, if you don't like that, then I recommend Orthodoxy. I think Oriental Orthodoxy is better than Eastern, but if you are white/European you might find it easier to assimilate into Eastern Orthodoxy, as Oriental is mostly middle eastern, Indian, and Ethiopian. But I do think the theology in Oriental Orthodoxy is better and more on point. I don't know why anyone would want to join RC Church, especially with Pope Francis in charge. They embrace all matter of heresy, such as evolution, global warming, and now they are trending towards the gay things.
"(Credo) Ecclesiam UNAM, Santcam, Catholicam et Apostolicam. "
The early church didn't pray to Mary or the disciples either. Most of what goes on in the Catholic Church is what was taken from pagen religions.
Revisionist History is herein presented! With a straight face!! As if EVERYONE agreed with everyone else, ALL Priests, Archbishop, laity in one Blessed Accord! No meetings involving debate, dissent! No Politics or fleshly desires, just smooth wonderfulness!?😢
Our Lord gifted us a perfect Church. Why, 1500 years later, did sinful man try to change this?
Satan corrupted Martin Luther, may God forgive him.
If the sinful Pope Leo X were still alive, you could ask him why he decided it was OK to send representatives throughout Europe to tell the peasants that if they paid a certain amount of money, they could buy their (or their deceased loved ones) way out of purgatory. A conscientious priest by the name of Martin Luther knew that this was obviously not in accord with the basic teachings of Christianity, and he dared to challenge Leo on this.
@@sarco64 and the same Martin Luther, a very mentally unstable man, proceeded to throw the baby out with the bath water. In doing so leading millions away from the church founded by Christ.
The 1st of the attacks on the CC 1517, Freemasonry 1717 & Communism 1917, none of which have succeeded against His One True Church Mt 16 18-29
@@sarco64 and Martin Luther proceeded to through the baby out with the bathwater. The poor man couldn't deal with his sinful nature, didn't have enough faith in Gods mercy on the sinner, and duly brought into the world the sola fida lie.
🙏🙏🙏 JMJ
Very true because history tells that Protestantism started only after the separation of Martin Luther from the Catholic Church who was an Augustinian before. Protestantism began by Martin himself when he led or founded the so called Reformation period. Then all other religions up to this time branched out from Protestantism.
Not so. The early church was primarily a Jewish sect which accepted gentiles. It kept sabbath and for the most part kept the pascal feast on the 14th of Nisan. Indeed they were still arguing about it until the late 4th century.
The Premise that older writing is correct....to me incorrect
Don't forget Augustine who was the first to successfully merge into Christianity Gnostic teaching, as he had once been a Manichaean Gnostic. I suppose he had Iraneaus rolling over in his grave, making "Against Heresies" redundant.
The early Church was Orthodox Catholic. Not Frankish papist. ☦️
The early church was neither.
@@r.e.jr.1152 100% my brother or sister IN CHRIST :-)
@@r.e.jr.1152 Then the early church is gone? The gates of hell prevailed over the church?
Simply put you don’t believe anything that early church fathers did except what you want to pick and choose.
@@notsureyou Orthodox means correct teaching ☦️
@@r.e.jr.1152 Also for clarification so you don't say this in the future. Catholic means universal, and Orthodox means correct teaching.
One of the first usages of Catholic in the early Church was from St. Ignatius of Antioch in AD 110
It was,it is and it will be Orthodox.☦️
Amen!
Amen!
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They didn't call the early Christians catholics. Where did that term come from??
What's missing is that the original church began changing immediately following the absence of the apostles. Back in the days when most people were illiterate, they had to trust the teachings of the clergy. By the time Martin Luther came along, he recognized that the church had changed while translating the bible. It had changed into believing things unsupported by the New Testament scriptures, which tightly align with Old Testament principles.
I once heard on Catholic radio, a young priest who said, "The bible doesn't say that you need to read it every day. That's just getting things messed up. We, the priests, are the educated theologians and the people just need to get back to believing in what we tell them and that the sacraments are real."
Anyone who reads and studies the bible, will find numerous resources explaining the eras, cultures, and translations from the original texts. When it all comes together, it is clear, the Catholic church of today is NOT the church it once was. The argument of origination matters not and only stems from pride, which Jesus speaks of in Mark 7:22, stating it comes from the hearts of man, not God. What needs everybody's attention is accuracy! Who cares who the first church was? We're all (the church is) the bride of Christ and that's not a reference to a denomination, but to all that have come to Christ for salvation.
Seriously, all one needs is a close study of the New Testament on a note for note comparison to the practices of Catholicism to see that the evolution of the church did not stay true to the teachings of Jesus or the apostles. It has comfortably nestled into the practices of idolatry by placing a higher importance of Mary, the priests, and the sacraments than God Himself. Jesus is the only mediation between us and the throne. Mary is not involved or bestowed that responsibility. And Jesus doesn't need help. No one but God the Father is supposed to be called "Father." The sacraments do not become Jesus, nor do they purge sin. Jesus's words at the last supper were not that of a miracle demonstration and nothing is given through the traditional practice of communion. It is a memorial, which according to Paul in his letters to the Corinthians, spoke clearly of needing atonement and purity BEFORE the taking of communion. The traditions, the priest-born blessings, it's all misleading to the basic message of the church, which is to repent and accept Christ as Lord, to call upon him for salvation, then be baptized in the declaration of loyalty and servitude for the filling of the Holy Spirit within us.
In Jesus parable of Lazarus and the rich man, his depiction of death and destination is clear, heaven, or hell. In the pleas that came from the rich man as he saw Abraham from hell, show us that there is nothing we can do for anyone else. Abraham's answers also declare permanence. There was no encouragement or statement of getting a second chance later on. No purgatory. Throughout the Gospels, Jesus speaks very black and white... no shades of gray.
We're all in the same boat and have to choose Christ, who is the only way to God. "No man cometh unto the Father, but by Me." From there, we are called to a personal relationship with God and that happens most effectively by spending time in the Word. That's how/where God speaks to us. Everything we need is in that bible. We are called to assemble as believers, but the church itself is not the magic, or the pathway. It's a place of strength and instruction. STUDY... quit taking someone's word for this stuff. Get in there yourself so YOU can know the truth, NOT TOLD what is true.
Romans 16:16 " the Churches of Christ salute you". Gal 1:22 " I was still not known by sight to the CHURCHES OF CHRIST IN JUDEA". The Churches of Christ started on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2. So, where is the Catholic Church mentioned in scripture? why would the bride of Christ wear the name Catholic?
The Bride of Christ might wear the name Catholic, meaning universal, because Christ's final priestly prayer before the crucifixion in John 17 was that all believers might be one. In fact, He believed that the unity of believers would be a testament to the authenticity of the divine revelation of Christianity. For this reason, the Church has always pursued oneness, or universality - Oneness is one of the four marks of the Church, and always has been.
Why would the bride of Christ be founded alongside hundreds of denominations in the 16th century or later as the product of schism and protest?
Also, by the way - Where is Sola Scriptura mentioned in Scripture? (No, it's not 2 Tim. 3:16)
The fallacy of sola Scriptura which 2 Peter 1 20-21 rebuts. The words bible, trinity, purgatory, Protestant are not in the bible you hypocrite, can’t you see how flawed your cornerstone is. The bible can’t interpret itself. Jn 20 23 says that not everything is in the bible which is why Sacred Tradition, which existed from the time of Christ complements Sacred Scripture which wasn’t mass printed until the 16th century & most people couldn’t read until recent centuries making sola Scriptura unworkable!
@@bradyhayes7911Oneness is IN CHRIST ONLY (the way, the truth and life).
Not in catholic religion.
Catholic religion DID NOT pay for our sins on the cross.
@@AlexSanchez-dk3kf What does it mean to be one in Christ? What do you think the Catholic Church teaches about salvation?
@@bradyhayes7911 to be ONE IN CHRIST, read the Bible. The Holy Spirit will reveal to you what you need to know at any specific time.
1 Corinthians 1:18:31
28 God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things-and the things that are not-to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast before him. 30 It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God-that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31 Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”
"It is because of Him (God) that YOU ARE IN CHRIST JESUS".
It is NOT because of catholic religion.
God bless.
That 1600 or 1800 year (depending on your particular denomination) blank spot on the map is one of the biggest hurdles for me in taking Protestantism seriously as an option.
Christians are christians. Not protestants.
Protestantism is the way catholics refer about christians who dont accept catholic religion beliefs regarding teachings that come from catholic saints, popes, virgins, etc.
All those man-made traditions and dogmas that are not clearly supported by God's word (the scriptures).
God bless.
Simple and succinct 👍🏼
What will the Orthodox Church say about this?
We may add:
"The original Church IS
(and has always been) Catholic (=universal)."
No. Never it says that in the bible. The Word church is not a building and is derived from ecclesia wich means to call together, call out. Congregation is a perfect and correct word for followers of Christ; the building or facility is not of great importance, but what we, the believers do together in Christ! God be with you in Christ Jesus. Amen.
@@nils740technically it is not a building at least applied at that era. But all christians at the time were under the guides of the disciples which were under the seat of peter.
At first Christ followers were called christian for the first time in Antioch. However laters there came so many heretical teachings, that christian church labeled themselves as catholic/orthodox church to separate themselves from those heretical teachings
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@@sandyriver4705🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡 they were called Natsarim, but your anti messiah pope and idol worshipping Romans changed the word in translation.
Lowercase catholic, which means universal. Ie in the apostles creed, they weren’t referring to the Catholic Church as we know today. They used the word catholic to refer to us all being unified under Jesus.
It was and is One Holy Catholic and Apostolic. And this Church has existed in two halves of the same Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church since the schism. Both are Holy Catholic and Apostolic, and I pray they may once again be United.
Jesus has 7 churches Rev 1-3, and none of them are in Rome. Why is that?
The first church was neither Protestant Baptist nor catholic. The first church, the way, the church, Nazarene church for the first two decades were heavily Jewish influenced. As years went on denominations perverted the word, 200 yrs after Jesus it was lost, only to be completely lost by Constantine. The first church was in Jerusalem and James was in charge. RCC church is so far gone past the first church it’s sad.
@@Everykneebows I’m sorry, but to say Constantine destroyed the Church or perverted the Church and it’s teachings is a slap in the face to those Bishops and priests and laymen who came to Council of Nicea in 325 called by Constantine. Many of these men were missing body parts. Some were missing eyes and tongues that they had lost during the extreme persecution they had faced because the would NOY DENY the Lord and his Gospel. They had endured sacrifice and many of them literal torture for Christ and his Truth. Do you think they would all all of a sudden just come in an rubber stamp a bunch of false doctrine? Never! Constintine called the Council but had zero influence on the decrees that came from the Council. The decrees/doctrines were proclaimed at the Council of Nicea in 325 by the successors to the Apostles themselves guided by the Holy Spirit, just as was done in the Book of Acts when their was a dispute over what would be required of the Gentile Christians. Again, to say that those men allowed Constantine to take over the Church and change its doctrine spits in the face of men who were wiling to do anything and accept any torture for the cause of Christ and refused to dishonor Christ and his Church.
@peterzinya1 And you think this is relevant, why exactly?
If Jesus rejects Rome, then explain why history proves his top apostle and essentially right hand man was a bishop in Rome who was martyred in Rome.
Kinda strange that Jesus wouldn’t rebuke his top apostle for setting up a Church in Rome if Jesus rejected Rome, don’t ya think?
@Everykneebows lol give one shred of evidence that Constantine started the Catholic Church. You have absolutely none, stop watching the DaVinci Code my guy. Even credible secular scholars laugh at the notion that the Catholic Church was started by Constantine and completely went against the Church already established by Peter and Paul in Rome.
James led the Church in Jerusalem, that wasn’t the only Church established and Paul even mentions that Cephas(Peter) was head of the elders in his letters.
Knowledge puffeth up...
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The Church started to go “off the rails” shortly after the death of the apostles. The scriptures were put aside in order to set a church government and doctrine not inspired by the Holy Spirit, but by man. The Reformation tried to bring the Church back to the holy scriptures, but this also failed. The troubles the Roman Catholic Church is experiencing today are self-inflicted.
So was Jesus a liar when he said the gates of Hell wouldn't prevail against his Church? There is no historical proof of a "great apostasy". Rather we see the Church Fathers unpacking scripture almost in the same way a flower bursts into bloom.
'The views you state did not exist before 16th anti Catholic propaganda. On the other hand, what did Jesus say?
'Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church' The words of Christ are eternal Truth and everlasting, not temporary, not intermittent.
'And the gates of hell will not prevail'. Attacks will come from outside and from within, but the Church established by Christ lives on forever.
God bless and Viva Cristo Rey.
No they are the work of the devil. The church will never die. Only men are corrupted not the bride of Christ.
What troubles exactly?
The Church is being hated on for running pedos & corrupt clergymen out. How is this a bad thing?
Remember the "troubles" Judas caused Jesus? Or the "troubles" the Apostles caused when they abandoned Christ? The true Church will always have troubles because Satan doesn't need to attack other churches who are doing bad all on their own and who do his work leading others away from The Church.
Satan attacks the Church that draws people away from him; The Catholic Church and good Protestant churches too.
@@siena4ever751 Nope! Christ said His church (meaning people who believed in him--not an institution) would be on the faith of Peter, and not the spineless man Peter himself who later denied Him! Poor excuse for any church head!
Apostle creed
Tangential correction: the first schism of the church is not with the Eastern Orthodox, but rather with the various ‘eastern churches’ stretching from Africa through China. While these churches most dwindled to small numbers (with some exceptions, the most notable being the Copts, Armenians, and Ethiopian Orthodox) due to centuries of persecution, displacement, and conversion (eg to Islam), eastern forms of Christianity constituted a major branch of Christianity through and beyond the first millennium.
The early church kept the commandments of God, not man.
"Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus."
Revelation 14:12
The early church (30-150ad) was none of these, it was Christian. There were certainly no priestly garb, no general celibacy of leaders, no overall primacy of Rome, no praying to dead believers for help, no adoration of Mary, no indulgences, no building of or veneration of statues, no purgatory, no archbishops and of course, no Pope. Rewriting church history in favour of Roman Catholicism is delusional and more importantly dishonest. I hope you get that.
It wasn't "christian" as much as it was Messianic. Followers of MESSIAH...not Christos-Greek. Most early followers were not speaking Latin, might have spoke Greek. And none of the rites, rituals that the Roman Empire imposed on adherents to their created religion.
You've obviously never read the Bible or the Church Fathers from the beginning. Was Jesus celibate? What did Paul say about it, and how did he live his life?
What sect or denomination you belong to? Be honest. Don't just say you're a 'christian'
There was a succession of Popes, all from the First Pope - St. Peter.
@@kahokukomohana1505 There was never a succession of Popes. Paul outstripped Peter within 30 years of Christ's resurrection. We know this because most of the "camera action" from the middle of the Book of Acts onwards, moves to what Paul was doing, saying and teaching and Peter is hardly mentioned again. This appears to be because Peter and the other disciples were given a commission by Jesus to "go into all the world and preach the gospel" but they seemingly disobeyed this and stayed in Jerusalem instead. God raised up Paul to do what they refused to do. This shows that God puts more value on actual obedience than in theoretical succession. If there ever was such a concept as papal succession in God's mind, it was broken so many times by disobedient and at times degenerate popes, that He has long since abandoned the idea. 🙂
Earl y church had no priest, no pope, no statute, no indulgence, etc to name few.
“I can definitely relate. After about 7 years of wrestling, I came out of the RCC about 3 months ago. It was an incredibly difficult decision, but I realized I couldn't keep sitting on the fence. I was stuck. Eventually I realized that regardless of whether some of the things the RCC teaches are true or not, if it requires me to commit even one idolatrous act or affirm one thing that is untrue, then I couldn't be a part of it. Something I just realized in the past couple of days is that the RCC has a different Gospel than the one I believe, and I'm not talking about the usual Protestant argument of faith vs works, etc. The RCC teaches that you have to accept all of its dogmas. As I understand the gospel, it is the simple truth that if someone repents of their sin and believes in Jesus they are saved. In effect, the RCC gospel is repent and believe in Jesus, believe in the Immaculate Conception, sinless life, and bodily assumption of Mary, believe that the first Pope was Peter and that there is a successive line of bishops who are infallible, believe in Purgatory and that your own merits and the merits of others can shorten or eliminate your time there, believe that forgiveness is only through a priest, and believe every other part of Cannon Law put forward by the Church. If you don't affirm any one of those beliefs you are anathematized according to the RCC. That's quite the burden if you ask me. It reminds me of the religious leaders in the time of Jesus, who had added so much to the Law that people were being crushed by it. I will pray that you get some clarity because I know what it feels like to be in that state of limbo.
It's like you want to be fully on board and on fire for Christ, but how can you do that if you don't even know what you believe yourself. At least that's how I experienced it. Either way, don't be afraid. If you are seeking with all your heart, God will direct you. Shalom.
What you believe does not matter. The gospels are what Christ taught and therefore the one and only truth.
Pre-Augustinian Catholicism was vastly different than post-Augustinian Catholicism. And there were differences in doctrines among the early church fathers. A lot of your arguments are semantics and translation choices.
The term catholic was first used by Saint Ignatius of Antioch around 127 ad..Also the apostle Peter didn't start the Roman church. The apostle Paul was the founder of the Roman church while he was a prisoner in Rome.
The early Church was in fact CHRISTIAN, since they were followers of Christ.
The term Catholic wasn't used until circa 110 A.D
Which simply meant "Universal Church".
What you are getting wrong here is that in the beginning there were individual parishes/communities scattered across the lands which later evolved into one church, the holy apostolic Catholic Church
Not to be rude. But please go back and watch the video and then comment. Your point is invalid
Terrible point. The church always existed, it was just named the Catholic Church, and still adhered to Jesus’ institution of a Church.
@@markopace974 "The term Catholic wasn't used until circa 110 A.D
Which simply meant "Universal Church"."
@@jamesnovick4919 The original followers of Christ were referred to as:
"Believers"
"Christians"
"Saints" (even though they were not dead but in fact living people)
"Apostles"
"Those who are in Christ /faithful brethren in Christ"
"ministers"
"servants of Christ"
Etc (for any that I have missed)
Which is why if someone is a follower of Christ,
Whatever denomination they are in,
They must first identify as a CHRISTIAN.
NOT
"I'm a Catholic"
"I'm a Baptist"
And so on,
Our identity is IN CHRIST
Many protestants heresy are gnostics idéologie
The Protestant idea of heresy is anything that contradicts the Bible, whereas the RC idea of heresy is anything that contradicts the Roman fiat declarations.
How far back is "early"? Because the earliest church was Jewish. Also, why is this important? Will this be important when all people come before God in the Judgment day?
"Upon This Rock".....any arguements?
One has to laugh at the audacity of baptists, and people believe it.
You murdered more than enough of us to wipe out entire countries, yet we are still here, and you are still bowing to idols and praying to the dead.
@@a.d.marshall2748 :
Do you really believe that??
Wow!
I see what 'wolfethequarrelsome' means.
Reporting as hate speech.
The early church was Christian, not catholic, orthodox or Protestant.
Well Said!
The early church was and is the Orthodox Church until Satan divided it and Catholics split off into their own religion.
Please research the Early Church Fathers. Opinions are fine. Facts are better.
That is why you are mislead, you are so ignorant. May the ligth of Christ shine on your heart and open your eyes to the truth, and the truth will set you free.
What is the point of attacking a minority view among Protestants, one with which Protestants themselves take issue?
Actually the first church was was three hundred years old when the Catholic church was formed.
Satan applauds your lie.
do you think Jesus cares about man-made religion and it's many rules that are not biblical? he cares about your heart and if you accept his gift of salvation or not. End of story
This is what Im hearing from you.
MY INPRETATION OF THE BIBLE, TRUMPS HISTORY
You mention the bible….super! Who told you what the bible is? Catholic church did in 4th century. Why do you deny that authority now? Jesus started Catholic church. Protestant churches started by men.
The Catholic Church that Protestants broke away from was not the same as the early church. The reason for different forms Protestantism was the deviation from the Catholic Church from the early church and a desire to go back to the roots of Christianity. By the 1500s the Catholic Church had evolved into an institution of political power with centuries of man made rules.
They returned to traditions so hard that they denied apostolic succesion, removed 7 books accepted by the early church and dont have divine lithurgy.
Prove your facts, don't make assumptions. I might also want to learn from you.
The early church may have been called "Catholic" but they didnt hold the Marian dogmas or any other false gospel.
The Roman Catholic Church was formed after breaking away from the original Orthodox Christian Church, correct?
Pontificus maximus in Rome. The highest priest body of roman paganism. Sounds original christianity right😂😂
Correct.
@@ArnavSharma-bj4ct Right, and they also incorporated the Roman Putti into their religious art, and the goddess Victoria.
Neither JESUS nor Any of the Apostles ever taught Mariology in the Holy Scripture. They taught JESUS was and Is the only way for Salvation by Faith in HIM and that HE is the only avenue of prayer to GOD, not Mary or anyone else.
Mariology is awesome! God bless
I beg to differ, Mariology is very much present in the scriptures. First obvious one is beginning of Luke, theology of modern Catholics/Orthodox relies heavily on this account. Mary is called highly favored/full of grace (depending on how you interpret the original Greek). And during her visit to Elizabeth, she is called "Mother of my Lord", which is wear the title "Mother of God" comes from: Jesus is God, Mary is the Mother of Jesus. Then Mary says her "soul magnifies the Lord" and "all generations shall call me blessed", when Catholic pray the Rosary, we call her blessed, which is the fulfillment of this prophecy from Mary herself.... Then on the cross Jesus tells John to "behold your mother" and Mary to "behold your son", which we believe means that Jesus intends for Mary to be the mother of all Christian disciples... And finally Revelation 12, even protestant Christians understand this woman to be Mary. John had a vision of her wearing a "crown with 12 stars". The stars representing the 12 apostles and 12 tribes of israel, and she is wearing them as a crown, which means God has proclaimed her as Queen of all MEN!
@@ateam388 It may be awesome, but it’s still not taught in Scripture.
@@Castropher The only people that interpret Revelation 12 as being the Mother of all men is those of the Catholic Faith. The Woman is Israel from whom Jesus was born. the 12 stars are the twelve tribes of Israel and the Sun represents the glory of Israel being God’s chosen people. This has nothing to do with Mary or the Roman Catholic Church.
Jesus gave John the responsibility to take care of His mother. To believe that that verse means Mary is the Mother of us all is preposterous. But when did the RCC ever let facts get in the way of their narrative?
@@randym.7238 We read and refer to the same texts of the bible and have completely different interpretations. You claim your interpretation is a fact that the RCC denies, when it is just your interpretation that I'm guessing you heard from someone else's commentary. This discussion here is proof that Scripture Alone is not sufficient in understanding the Christian Life and an authority to teach the bible is needed. The Bible demonstrates this in Acts 8: "Philip ran to him and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and asked, “Do you understand what you are reading?” And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?”. So when a Christian attempts to arrive at the correct interpretation of a passage in scripture, the question becomes, who can I trust to guide me? I'll take the bishops and priests who claim "Apostolic succession" and the early church fathers who wrote about Mary being the "new Eve". Veneration of Mary is very much intrinsic to the Christian faith throughout history. Even protestant founder Martin Luther venerated Mary and called her the Mother of all Christians
All words in singular, Jesus left us one church, and the mass.
The mass is not in scripture and you are lost.
Thank you for sharing the true story of the Christians movement in the past.
The first church was started in the 2nd Chapter of Acts. If doctrine does not align to Peters teaching then the doctrine is false.
Protestantism was a mercy extended to Holy Mother the Church. It was the mirror to aid Her in making a badly needed examination of conscience.
Luther became a pimp leasing out fallen nuns to dignitaries... some mercy!
Libido and broken vows is the engine that pulls the reformation train...
KIng Henry imposed compound interest and money lenders on his people
and now the English think they were the crusaders...after burning down
and looting their own church and clergy...and re tweaking the Bible...
Oliver Cromwell was a puritan up there with Stalin/Mao...some mercy!
And queen victoria showed no mercy!
Protestantism is known globally as a shallow hate filled version of Christianity
except of course in dueish america
No, the early church was distinctly NOT catholic. We literally have the history.
Having an early foothold doesn’t mean anything. Otherwise, the world would be practising Judaism.
Protestantism was started during the Reformation because of corrupt RC practices. We can all agree that God can work through different denominations.