Thanks! That is exactly why I read and watch reviews prior to completing a purchase. I found your review because the Solo Stove Bonfire had been recommended to me and I wanted to check it out. Your version iss far more practical for us. I will buy based upon your review...good job.
I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid. I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke Free from the dump
I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid. I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke Free from the dump
I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid. I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke Free from the dump
You could make this ..smoke"less"?! By drill air intake vents on the interior ring and somehow covering the two rings (vacuum air from bottom) ..so only vacuum draw is from bottom. So you 2nd burn the carbon/smoke plume. Hence..the smokeless design ..ish !!
Not smokeless, although you could probably drill some holes in the inner ring. Careful not to breathe the zinc oxide from the galvanized layer. Zinc melts at around 800F and will leave the metal to rust.
Well... More accurately, the zinc oxidizes, and teeny-tiny pieces flake off and drift through the air. That we breathe. And Zinc OXIDE is highly toxic. Zinc itself is non-toxic. In its pure state. And we only need to heat it to 500° FAHRENHEIT to do that. First time, burn it hot, and burn it well. FROM A DISTANCE.
Looks like you got 2. These are sized like this for shipping. If you look at the big stock tanks, etc. they all nest like this. Good deal anyway. I think I'll pick one up as well.
@@JesusFirst12 I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid. I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke Free from the dump
You could use that as a starting point to make a Solo Stove knock-off. Cut holes in top of the inner ring. Close the gap between the rings at the top. Put a raised grate bottom in it to allow air under the logs. Don't know if it'd work, but would make a fun project.
They only need a tiny amount of air in the bottom(1-2% of the bottom surface area in my experience) The biggest hurdle to making these smokeless is to size them properly. You see a 36-48” fire pit with a 18” fire in it... One reason the solo’s work so well is they are small, and it is easier to fill them with wood. This helps concentrate the heat and make a hot core fire. What the core doesn’t break down, the secondary air and the airflow in over the edge pulling the smoke back out over the core does. Too much air into the center and you don’t get good flow in over the top edge. Been making my own versions for years out of old water heater tanks.
1) Drill lot of 3/4 inches hole around the inner rings 2) the 3/4 hole need to be at least 1 inch away from the upper edge of the inner ring 3) the gap between the inner and outer ring need to close or cap off. So that, the hot in that gap flow out through the 3/4 hole at the inner ring.
The point of the double wall on the solo stove is to superheat secondary combustion air between the walls which is then directed thru holes and that curved lip at the top, back over the fire to more completely burn the gasses/smoke. If you are not doing that, there is no point in 2 walls. Also as mentioned galvanized and heat from a fire release toxic gas... you can do something similar and lot more durable with an old car or truck rim, and you can probably get that for free. Also, it doesn’t need much air in at the bottom. Too much will actually cool the fire...
Zinc will begin vaporize when it reaches 850-950C, however it's unlikely that the fire ring will these see these temperatures in the arrangement presented (lots of space around coals/wood). Additionally, in an outdoor setting (even if you were to achieve these temps) there is plenty of excess ventilation to dilute any volatilized material. Zinc fume poisoning is a thing....for welders. I wouldn't worry about here.
@@dmcgreg coals run upwards of 2000F, which is above the 950C you mentioned. I have used 4” galvanized ducting with a computer fan to accelerate brush pile fires. You can cook the zinc off quite easily in a fire, and if you want smokeless, you need the heat... you are right, it is out in the air, but better to simply not use something that is galvanized, as once that it gone the thin sheet will rust/deteriorate rapidly...
@@gyulamolnar8971 yes, in a fire pit, too much air will indeed cool the fire, or perhaps more correctly put, allow too much heat to leave the burn chamber. That is why a simple pile of wood on the ground almost always smokes. As the unlimited fresh air flows in unrestricted, hot air escapes carrying smoke that didn’t get a chance to break down along with it... The larger pits I have built don’t require any primary air at all. They will get all they need sucked in over the edge and down. This slows that exchange of heat to the surrounding air and holds more heat in the pit which gives more time for that heat to break down the products of combustion and burn cleaner. Big pits don’t burn as clean because of this uncontrolled air. The smaller ones I build do require a little primary air let in at the bottom, but the way I tune them is I look for any visible smoke generated down in the pit, or the flames themselves, like those where the heated secondary air ignites unburnt wood gas, to be occasionally pulled downward into the fire. That is when I get the hottest fire pit and the least amount of smoke generated. Here is one of the ones I build. It’s dual wall but instead of holes at the top to let the secondary air into the burn chamber, I leave a small gap at the top of the inner wall to allow that super heated air to flow up under that curved lip to mix and ignite the wood gas. ua-cam.com/video/f0qIK-OFm3w/v-deo.html
If you put the outside ring tight to the ground while keeping the inner ring elevated, the intake air will get really hot and oxygenated as it gets sucked in through the gap between the ring. This will reduce smoke considerably (once the fire is good and hot). No joke. Try it out. 🙂
If I build around & do as you suggest keeping outer ring flush with ground & inner ring raised would I need to keep bottom layer traps spaced out so air can get in? And would I need to cap the top? Or drill holes to keep it smokeless?
Yes I know what you mean. I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid. I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke Free from the dump
Unlikely to be an issue in the arrangement shown. This is more of a concern for welders when working with galvanized material in enclosed spaces. In the video shown here there's plenty of ventilation, surface area to sink/disperse heat, and space between the coals and the wall. That being said, it's also somewhat unlikely that there is much secondary combustion going on...for the same reasons.
These were $49 each, right? Those are two of them they're just different sizes for shipping. It would work better if the bottom was sealed under the inside ring and drill some holes around the top of the inside ring. This way air travel up between the two where it's heated before going into the fire.
Only problem with Galvanized rings is it isnt safe to cook any type of food to eat. As galvanized means it has zinc and zinc fumes are toxic... Was so set on building one of these until I found that out recently
Started with this idea... Plan to use a painted steel inner ring instead of the galvanized. Amazon has a 36" / 32" fire ring with a top flange. The flange should cover the gap between rings. Will drill holes at the top of the inner ring. With the galvanized on the outer, it should stay cool enough not to be an issue.
@@davidwest3496 I have a 32 inch steel ring with the flange at the top with 1 inch holes cut all the way around it, already...I will sale it to you for $75 if you're still in the market for one.
Looks like you scored two fire rings for the price of one. Behlen makes their products to nest as to cut down on floor space they do this with their water troughs as well. If you pull apart you will see same branding and price label for the inner ring.
Ha! I think that's exactly what happened! Nevertheless, he's got the 2 key ingredients. Just need to incorporate some of the suggestions in here and it will burn even better!
The price was marked on the big sign. I didn’t even check the inside tags. I really thought they were suppose to be together. Thanks for pointing out my lucky score.
I need this!!! But I can’t find this anywhere on Home Depot or the Internet in general. I see this company has a basic,single fire ring but cannot find the double wall version. Any thoughts?
Try tractor supply, but also read rronmar's post. This video is using the rings wrong. Try elevating the outside ring and leaving the inner ring sitting on the ground.
I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid. I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke Free from the dump
I am a person who lives in China, and I am also a stove lover，Your idea is very good，I'm also designing a furnace that can be buried under the ground，This is conducive to heat radiation to people
"According to the American Galvanizers Association, toxic Zinc Fumes are released when the galvanized metal reaches a certain temperature. This temperature varies by the galvanization process used. In long-term, continuous exposure, the recommended maximum temperature for hot-dip galvanized steel is 200 °C (392 °F), ."
The pallet you see behind the boys is made of composite man made materials from China. It does not burn very clean. I agree that dry pine is cleaner and better burning. Thanks for your comment.
Yeah, it's cheap because it's a lesser material, and the double rings isn't doing anything for you. I bet you could find a used stainless washing machine drum cheaper. Not really comparable in any way to Solo just because it has some underside airflow.
Yes. However this was an on the spot impromptu video with my boys. I didn’t have time to stage everything. Also the fuel I burned wasn’t ideal for my demo.
We dug out a wide area and refilled with sand, decomposed granite (DG) and pea size gravel on top. This acts as an excellent barrier for the bottom. The rings sit on top of the bricks to create a simple vent for cleaner burning and higher temperatures. Thank you for your comment.
This ain't how a Yukon smokeless pit is made. Prolly burns better , but still you dont have upper holes on inner ring. Drill upper holes on inner wall, and put a cap on top of the 2 walls & ur copying a Yukon to a T It probably smokes a little less... but that's by dumb luck.
Every time I see a clickbait title like “you must watch this”.....I run the other way. You’re prob a nice guy. I don’t want to crap on you. But these titles are horrible.
A solo stove is very portable and when mine is burning well I have no smoke. Your solution is really only a fire ring and on your video there is plenty of visible smoke. Solo stoves are designed for little to no smoke and they work.
Solo Stove is WAY better than this. This isn't smokeless, Solo Stove is. This is burning galvanized metal = toxic. After the galvanized material is burned off = rust.
You bought a tub without a bottom.... That's not what the solostove is. Sorry but your ignorance about the topic was pretty much summed up when you said it's made in china so I crossed it off my list. News flash, your phone is made in China
Thanks! That is exactly why I read and watch reviews prior to completing a purchase. I found your review because the Solo Stove Bonfire had been recommended to me and I wanted to check it out. Your version iss far more practical for us. I will buy based upon your review...good job.
You could just buy an Amicus Fire Pit and save all that work.ua-cam.com/video/VDPYNEMtQkE/v-deo.html
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I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid.
I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke
Free from the dump
Thanks for this video! Love when one of the boys said "A dash of pepper!" 😂
An old style wash tub works well, you'll have to drill/ cut 1/2"-1" air holes around the bottom then set it up on bricks/stones as you've got here.
I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid.
I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke
Free from the dump
Go down to the junkyard & buy a 11.24.5 & a 11.22.5 truck rim for $20 max. Heavy steel & last for years!
I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid.
I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke
Free from the dump
Thank youuuuuu! Cheers from Palm Springs!
You could make this ..smoke"less"?! By drill air intake vents on the interior ring and somehow covering the two rings (vacuum air from bottom) ..so only vacuum draw is from bottom. So you 2nd burn the carbon/smoke plume.
Hence..the smokeless design ..ish !!
that is a nice looking fire pit, love it!
Not smokeless, although you could probably drill some holes in the inner ring. Careful not to breathe the zinc oxide from the galvanized layer. Zinc melts at around 800F and will leave the metal to rust.
Well... More accurately, the zinc oxidizes, and teeny-tiny pieces flake off and drift through the air. That we breathe. And Zinc OXIDE is highly toxic.
Zinc itself is non-toxic. In its pure state. And we only need to heat it to 500° FAHRENHEIT to do that. First time, burn it hot, and burn it well. FROM A DISTANCE.
These rings are also lovely for a Raised Bed garden.
Looks like you got 2. These are sized like this for shipping. If you look at the big stock tanks, etc. they all nest like this. Good deal anyway. I think I'll pick one up as well.
Awesome! Thx!
Bonfires and boys ... your living the good old days.
Living good days
You just know that anything flammable in that yard is burnt. I liked the video. thank You.
I remember as a boy growing up in San Diego, beach, bonfires and grunion hunting. The best of times.
@@JesusFirst12 I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid.
I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke
Free from the dump
solo stove is basically smokeless. Prevents a lot of sparks. Smell goes away. 👏
Curious is it came with 2 rings or just one? Does it still work well?
You could use that as a starting point to make a Solo Stove knock-off. Cut holes in top of the inner ring. Close the gap between the rings at the top. Put a raised grate bottom in it to allow air under the logs. Don't know if it'd work, but would make a fun project.
They only need a tiny amount of air in the bottom(1-2% of the bottom surface area in my experience) The biggest hurdle to making these smokeless is to size them properly. You see a 36-48” fire pit with a 18” fire in it... One reason the solo’s work so well is they are small, and it is easier to fill them with wood. This helps concentrate the heat and make a hot core fire. What the core doesn’t break down, the secondary air and the airflow in over the edge pulling the smoke back out over the core does. Too much air into the center and you don’t get good flow in over the top edge. Been making my own versions for years out of old water heater tanks.
1) Drill lot of 3/4 inches hole around the inner rings
2) the 3/4 hole need to be at least 1 inch away from the upper edge of the inner ring
3) the gap between the inner and outer ring need to close or cap off. So that, the hot in that gap flow out through the 3/4 hole at the inner ring.
@@rronmar Interesting, maybe a DIY how to?
@@sethmcgowan7339 maybe eventually, pretty busy right now...
Thank you Daniel. I watched another DIY named Haxman. Great video. And he’s real funny.
So yeah how did you put that together is there an assembly video, there you have it I am interested
Pretty simple. Just clear your area and lay sand and gravel and then get some old bricks as base. Then stack and adjust.
Isn't burning galvanized steel toxic?
The point of the double wall on the solo stove is to superheat secondary combustion air between the walls which is then directed thru holes and that curved lip at the top, back over the fire to more completely burn the gasses/smoke. If you are not doing that, there is no point in 2 walls. Also as mentioned galvanized and heat from a fire release toxic gas... you can do something similar and lot more durable with an old car or truck rim, and you can probably get that for free. Also, it doesn’t need much air in at the bottom. Too much will actually cool the fire...
Zinc will begin vaporize when it reaches 850-950C, however it's unlikely that the fire ring will these see these temperatures in the arrangement presented (lots of space around coals/wood).
Additionally, in an outdoor setting (even if you were to achieve these temps) there is plenty of excess ventilation to dilute any volatilized material.
Zinc fume poisoning is a thing....for welders. I wouldn't worry about here.
@@dmcgreg coals run upwards of 2000F, which is above the 950C you mentioned. I have used 4” galvanized ducting with a computer fan to accelerate brush pile fires. You can cook the zinc off quite easily in a fire, and if you want smokeless, you need the heat... you are right, it is out in the air, but better to simply not use something that is galvanized, as once that it gone the thin sheet will rust/deteriorate rapidly...
Cool the fire. :D
The galvanization will burn off after the first fire, if hot enough.
@@gyulamolnar8971 yes, in a fire pit, too much air will indeed cool the fire, or perhaps more correctly put, allow too much heat to leave the burn chamber. That is why a simple pile of wood on the ground almost always smokes. As the unlimited fresh air flows in unrestricted, hot air escapes carrying smoke that didn’t get a chance to break down along with it... The larger pits I have built don’t require any primary air at all. They will get all they need sucked in over the edge and down. This slows that exchange of heat to the surrounding air and holds more heat in the pit which gives more time for that heat to break down the products of combustion and burn cleaner. Big pits don’t burn as clean because of this uncontrolled air. The smaller ones I build do require a little primary air let in at the bottom, but the way I tune them is I look for any visible smoke generated down in the pit, or the flames themselves, like those where the heated secondary air ignites unburnt wood gas, to be occasionally pulled downward into the fire. That is when I get the hottest fire pit and the least amount of smoke generated. Here is one of the ones I build. It’s dual wall but instead of holes at the top to let the secondary air into the burn chamber, I leave a small gap at the top of the inner wall to allow that super heated air to flow up under that curved lip to mix and ignite the wood gas. ua-cam.com/video/f0qIK-OFm3w/v-deo.html
You got me sold.
Does it keep you warm sitting around it?!
If you put the outside ring tight to the ground while keeping the inner ring elevated, the intake air will get really hot and oxygenated as it gets sucked in through the gap between the ring. This will reduce smoke considerably (once the fire is good and hot). No joke. Try it out. 🙂
If I build around & do as you suggest keeping outer ring flush with ground & inner ring raised would I need to keep bottom layer traps spaced out so air can get in? And would I need to cap the top? Or drill holes to keep it smokeless?
Yes I know what you mean. I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid.
I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke
Free from the dump
Galvanized steel gives off toxic fumes when heated like that.
Unlikely to be an issue in the arrangement shown. This is more of a concern for welders when working with galvanized material in enclosed spaces.
In the video shown here there's plenty of ventilation, surface area to sink/disperse heat, and space between the coals and the wall. That being said, it's also somewhat unlikely that there is much secondary combustion going on...for the same reasons.
Yes. Go in the basement for laughing.
If they should start to feel like they're getting sick, give them some milk to drink. It's a quick and effective antidote to zinc toxicity.
Unlikely to be a issue? That should be enough right there. Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain, the wing is unlikely to come off in flight. Lol
These were $49 each, right? Those are two of them they're just different sizes for shipping.
It would work better if the bottom was sealed under the inside ring and drill some holes around the top of the inside ring. This way air travel up between the two where it's heated before going into the fire.
Nov 2021 65 bucks now
Good job getting them boys outside.
Only problem with Galvanized rings is it isnt safe to cook any type of food to eat. As galvanized means it has zinc and zinc fumes are toxic... Was so set on building one of these until I found that out recently
Started with this idea... Plan to use a painted steel inner ring instead of the galvanized. Amazon has a 36" / 32" fire ring with a top flange. The flange should cover the gap between rings. Will drill holes at the top of the inner ring. With the galvanized on the outer, it should stay cool enough not to be an issue.
@@davidwest3496 I have a 32 inch steel ring with the flange at the top with 1 inch holes cut all the way around it, already...I will sale it to you for $75 if you're still in the market for one.
Beware of zinc toxicity.
Exactly !!!!!!!!!
Not all Dads have Boys for here's to those that are livin' the dream.
Looks like you scored two fire rings for the price of one. Behlen makes their products to nest as to cut down on floor space they do this with their water troughs as well. If you pull apart you will see same branding and price label for the inner ring.
Ha! I think that's exactly what happened! Nevertheless, he's got the 2 key ingredients. Just need to incorporate some of the suggestions in here and it will burn even better!
The price was marked on the big sign. I didn’t even check the inside tags. I really thought they were suppose to be together. Thanks for pointing out my lucky score.
Glad you pointed this out!! I’ve been looking every where for the double ring! 😂😂😂
The solo stove is the inside drum of a washer..that's how I made mine...old washer.
So they have a smaller ring? I only saw the 36”.
Yes. Both sizes for $49.00 at our local Home Depot.
I need this!!! But I can’t find this anywhere on Home Depot or the Internet in general. I see this company has a basic,single fire ring but cannot find the double wall version. Any thoughts?
Same question!
Try tractor supply, but also read rronmar's post. This video is using the rings wrong. Try elevating the outside ring and leaving the inner ring sitting on the ground.
Our Home Depot had the smaller and larger rings available. I just picked up both for the price of $49.00. The sales clerk was very helpful.
I have the inner stainless steel drum from a washing machine and a slightly bigger one from a tumble dryer which leaves a 2 inch gap from the inner drum with the holes. The outer layer is solid.
I light the fire small and once hot can put green branches and leaves in and very little smoke
Free from the dump
I am a person who lives in China, and I am also a stove lover，Your idea is very good，I'm also designing a furnace that can be buried under the ground，This is conducive to heat radiation to people
So a fire ring is the only thing you won't buy from China? Odd threshold to set.
"According to the American Galvanizers Association, toxic Zinc Fumes are released when the galvanized metal reaches a certain temperature. This temperature varies by the galvanization process used. In long-term, continuous exposure, the recommended maximum temperature for hot-dip galvanized steel is 200 °C (392 °F), ."
Thank you for sharing that info. I’m not concerned as it is in a well ventilated area 5 blocks from the beach.
@@JesusFirst12 do your kids love at the beach? Your kids are the concern. Not beach goers!!!
The ash is good for plants.
You can Easily make one also.
Make a video
Pallets make great fuel.
The pallet you see behind the boys is made of composite man made materials from China. It does not burn very clean. I agree that dry pine is cleaner and better burning. Thanks for your comment.
This has a lot of smoke... compared to the smokeless Yukon design.
O.o 50 dollars for the top half of a trash can.
👍
I only see one ring at HD for $49.99 not 2
Inflation has hit since this video, the are now $64.97 as of 11/20/21.
Nah, I still bought a Yukon.
Yeah, it's cheap because it's a lesser material, and the double rings isn't doing anything for you. I bet you could find a used stainless washing machine drum cheaper. Not really comparable in any way to Solo just because it has some underside airflow.
This has a lot more smoke than the Solo stove
Yes. However this was an on the spot impromptu video with my boys. I didn’t have time to stage everything. Also the fuel I burned wasn’t ideal for my demo.
Yikes-except for the toxic gas that is emitted from heating up the galvanized steel…
…be careful with that, as it’s a carcinogen.
Yeah let see how well it does when placed on a composite deck..you can't compare apples to oranges. 🤷♂️
Duh? Common sense lol. If all you have is a deck then of course cough up 3-$400
As you can see, we prefer a sand and gravel area as part of the bonfire pit. Never intended to be used on a wooden deck.
@@JesusFirst12 As you can see, your title is incredibly misleading than for people who need something deck specific..
@@UnknownUser_0000 You can't be serious... Just stay inside.
@@JesseG085 Click bait titles are a fucking joke.. thanks for you input though little Timmy.
No bottom?
We dug out a wide area and refilled with sand, decomposed granite (DG) and pea size gravel on top. This acts as an excellent barrier for the bottom. The rings sit on top of the bricks to create a simple vent for cleaner burning and higher temperatures. Thank you for your comment.
This ain't how a Yukon smokeless pit is made.
Prolly burns better , but still you dont have upper holes on inner ring.
Drill upper holes on inner wall, and put a cap on top of the 2 walls & ur copying a Yukon to a T
It probably smokes a little less... but that's by dumb luck.
Every time I see a clickbait title like “you must watch this”.....I run the other way. You’re prob a nice guy. I don’t want to crap on you. But these titles are horrible.
Solo stove is way way WAY over priced.
Not if you hate breathing and smelling smoke and aren't extremely poor. They're worth every penny otherwise.
The swede are doing the same thing with the öfyr barbecue ring
all hipster cylindrical fire cans suck
“Bonfire”? 😆 thats not a bonfire
Two pyromaniacs in training.
They really enjoy splitting their own wood and having a nice bonfire.
Too late.
poor design, it's still smoking. You didn't drill holes like the solo stove design. :(
This looks like it's $50
made in China too
A solo stove is very portable and when mine is burning well I have no smoke. Your solution is really only a fire ring and on your video there is plenty of visible smoke.
Solo stoves are designed for little to no smoke and they work.
I will do a follow up to show that this idea is a better way to save money on things that can be made more efficient by the creative mind.
Solo Stove is WAY better than this. This isn't smokeless, Solo Stove is. This is burning galvanized metal = toxic. After the galvanized material is burned off = rust.
1:56 what’s wrong with made in China? Steel is steel.
Try yours on a wood deck or other flammable surface, lol.
These fire pit makers are a bunch of rip offs for sure!! That’s why we have DIY !!!
You bought a tub without a bottom.... That's not what the solostove is. Sorry but your ignorance about the topic was pretty much summed up when you said it's made in china so I crossed it off my list. News flash, your phone is made in China