How F1 Drivers Are SO FAST in the Wet
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Driving in the wet is difficult in any race car, but in a Formula 1 car - it’s a whole other challenge.
So how are the drivers doing it? And why is it so easy to make mistakes?
For those who don’t know, during my racing career I raced F1 cars in a series called Boss GP - and we had several races in the wet. And let me say - driving an F1 car in the wet is NOT EASY. So let me explain what these drivers are doing.
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Also what has too be mentioned is the night time and light settings this is a extra factor for the drivers.. Because seeing a dry line is much harder when the light is reflecting on the track!
I can really feel this on a sim with very great graphics like project cars. Although i can easily avoid this trouble by lowering the graphic settings
If you're ever feeling useless, just remember that f1 wet tires get brought to every race...
Awwww, poor little guys
Brilliant comment 👏👏
Wait even saudi arabia, uae and bahrain?
If you were to bring wet tires to 100 races and it only rained once, costing you lets say 100 for every race but making 100 000 for that race you brought wet tires, you would make 900 per race just for bringing wet tires to a track where there is 1% chance of rain.
And are destroyed if not used
For those that will never pilot a single seater and who REALLY want to know what it's like at a fraction of the performance levels get your butt into a tandem F1/Indy car.
I've always loved F1 and Indy. Hit the track in regular cars. Spend almost 20 years on high performance bikes but one day back in 08 after just joining the military I worked a military booth at the LBGP (I also happened to pretty much live IN the circuit every year for 10 years) They asked if I wanted to go around the track a few times. This was before they opened. Oh yea. Let's do this. Away we went in the 2 seater. I was used to speed so that really didn't do much for me. On the third lap the world changed. Still no big deal with the raw speed. Bikes have done away with tunnel vision. The turns were another matter. WOW. Ok. Those are some good Gs. It was the brakes.. Like hitting a freaking tree! I could feel my face leaving my skull while looking at me knees. YOU OK? YEA!! How fast can you go without getting in trouble? He said nothing. We went down the straight SIGNIFICANTLY faster. What have I just done? Then my right eye was in my left socket and my left eye was in my ear. My neck filed for divorce on the 3rd turn. Instead of a tree we used a solid rock wall to slow down. The level of grip is INSANE! There is no street equivalent. I can still feel those braking G forces to this very day and we were still below real race speeds. If you get the chance to drive or ride at that level TAKE IT.
The fact these guys can race like they do in the rain is just crazy. The grip and downforce are just otherworldly.
Dude, tahat sounds like it was intense.
Hell yeah!
Now we need Scott to drive one with his co-hosts.
it's too much work to sit tandem in a f1/indycar. Just go to your local GoKart track. it's basically the same concept and experience.
I got to do the tandem ride in a road course Indycar but also got to do laps in a Formula Mazda. That was when they were making I think 230hp? And same experience. The acceleration was nice, but nothing close to a sport bike, but man the cornering and the brakes were unreal. A few laps and I couldn't hold my head up.
@@cpcxgsr what kind of GoKarts do you drive to even attempt to compare them go a F1 car?
Here in Germany most carts have like 9Ps and go 85kmh max...
I get more G forces riding my motorcycle...
You should do a step by step breakdown on crucial corners of the weekend. I love the detail and education you're providing.
Yes.
Yes please
Love how a number of people were doubting Checo and then he pulled a masterclass of a drive in Singapore GP.
Whilst yes Checo did drive well at Singapore he's still the most overrated driver on the grid.
Only part about Checos drive that was masterful was lap 1 and the end where he was informed to push as fast as possible.
he probably would of finished the race 20secs behind max if Max got to finsih his pole lap. then no1 would be saying "wow wot a great drive". He definintly done wot he had to do tho so fair play, was happy for checo.
Finishing less than 6 seconds ahead of a second place driver in the slower car a masterclaas? He kept his cool in front of
Leclerc but as this video describes, it was nearly impossible to pass anyways. Most any other track I’d say Leclerc would have at least given him a challenge. That was definitely not a masterclass win though.
@@mclarensaleenf7yeah they doubted him for a reason, he's now the next driver to be sacked by Red Bull
I love it how you did not clickbait and explained why F1 cars are driving 400 kph on average in wet conditions!
They're never doing 400
@@CertifiedSlamboy he's being sarcastic
@@CertifiedSlamboy Whoosh
fast is not always top speed. fast is also the quickest lap time.
Don't EVER forget how amazing Rubens Barrichello was in the rain! He was a master!
In his early karting days, he could not afford rain tyres, so he would practice with slicks and thus developed superior ability driving with less grip.
I'm already applying the knowledge from last episode in my sim racing, after adjusting my driving style, lap time went up a lot, and here we got another episode on detailed wet driving, no doubt this will boost my confidence next time I encounter wet tracks.
I've noticed that it seems quite common to talk about the track having more grip on the outside karting line, this is not as significant as the physics itself. I get that there's a bit more grip on the wider line but no-one ever talks about the actual change of direction physics involved in steering wheel angle. The steering wheel angle is a lot less when taking a wide entry and exit out of a corner. Keeping the wheels as much in line as possible is vital in the wet. The apex is not your friend in the wet because the steering angle is more than taking a wider line with a larger radius. Also braking into a wider radius line into a corner allows to brake deeper into the corner due to a smaller steering angle. Everyone knows that the lesser steering angle the better under braking.
The less steering angle in the wet the faster you go.
You single-handedly made me love this sport 100000% more after the past few months. I’m from Texas. I’m a huge nascar fan. Been one since ‘97. I’ve known about F1 for about as long but only really got into it for about 5 years. Besides European Football, more specifically the Premiere Series….F1 is my religion.
Drove in the wet on a track first time recently. What I learned. 1. Rain line is wherever there is grip. 2. Rain line changes on the same turn from lap to lap. 3. Rain with falling temps is terrible, even if it’s still 10+ deg C+ (40+ deg F) which is still within the tyre’s ambient operating temp. 4. Softer is easier to drive confidently, and conversely, stiffer is less mistake tolerant. 5. Hated it. Thought I’d get the technique and be able to manage but never quite adjusted.
Amzing driving in the wet and no doubt the tyres, driving style, concentration levels and many other things come into play but one bug question i have is how do the drivers even see where they are going in all that spray. Its incredible the amount of water that is kicked back by the car in front. We have all driven in the rain and know how hard it is to see even with wipers on full so how do they do it with no wipers? I know they have tear off visors but seriously even tearing one off every few seconds your still blinded by the spray for sure. Amazing. Would love to know how they cope with visibility in those conditions if anyone has any in sight.
I always like to think that rain racing is like racing on dirt ovals. This is because in dirt, the track is constantly changing every lap, meaning that the line changes also. Typically, they start low, and the move high because that's where the most dirt is towards the end of the race. It's almost the same in f1. All the rain washes the rubber towards the outside of the corner. It's basically the opposite of what dirt racers do.
Lol I remember racing karts in the 90s on slicks in the wet as slicks were the only tyre we was allowed to use in any condition
Hey Scott. How appropriate is this video as this Sunday the weather forecast for the Bathurst 1000 is wet weather. Qualifying has already been conducted in heavy rain with a spectacular track run off when Lowndes was at the wheel.
CAn you do a videoon why Stroll is really effective in the wet but less so in the dry?
Very good car control and "reflex driving" from driving in the snow. He's mentioned it before that he practiced car control in parking lots and on track in the snow as much as he could (Max did, too).
@@TheJackOfAllTrades777 Max said it himself. He drove all over Europe in karts.
Stroll is actually underrated in the dry. He was pulling a 3-second gap with Vettel last race in the dry
Yo this Established Titles thing is a scam dude, don't endorse them
Not a scam just more of a gag gift type thing.
I'm not completely sure but I think part of the reason Singapore didn't dry up as quickly as usual is the characteristic high humidity there which prevents (or at least slows down) evaporation.
No shit lol
@@landonboomsma2594 "no shit" but I'm yet to see someone mentions that. Instead I see people pointing out other obvious stuff all the time.
Scott's catchphrase is definitely "let me explain" 😄
That’s when you see the greatest of Airton Senna. He was a lot faster than anyone in the wet. He understood a lot more what was going on with the car and grip.
Can you do a video on how Checo is so effective in street circuits and wet and both combined a level above
He can't because Checo isn't a level above....Max is clearly better, he had to abort two faster laps.
i would say that in monaco, max messed up in monaco so perez was ahead of him. And redbull strategy got him the win, if you saw he had 3 drivers right behind him, advantage of monaco or he would have gotten overtaken. Similar story here, this time redbull messed up max's quali, checo got the better start and just kept going
@@khalidqureshi3168 Perez messed up in qualification in Monaco and Max couldn't finish his quali stint.
@@Hani_Santa I'm not comparing these two drivers. They're both amazing. It's funny how when max wins it's because he's a beast but when Checo wins it's because Max wasn't around or Circuits weren't for overtaking.
Wake up, it's the same for all the drivers yet Checo managed to secure the win, that's what I'm talking about. It rained for everybody.
@@khalidqureshi3168 which basically means if he's favoured even half as much as Max then he'd be churning out wins too.
I love max, but sometimes it's clear where the overall team is heading and Checo has been a fair sport so far
Can we analyze Verstappen in Brazil 2016?
Hé already did, back then!
Max, a little bit of luck. and A LOT of skill! Doing 360s and still managed to keep it out of the walls! Same with him doing the same this year! Bravo!
I was hoping he would bring up max's overtake on Nico in Brazil when he was explaining how overtaker has to take much wetter line than the person in front
@@thecompanioncube4211 no actually, the line max was taking was ultimately better for the conditions
@@khalidqureshi3168 yea, but it was surprising for everyone. It was visibly wetter there as compared to Nico's line
Scotland could do with more trees. Maybe Lewis's call to start on full wets was the way to go as overtaking off the dryer line was too slippery.
They would have been dead within a few laps. And as much as I don't like lewis he wasn't wanting wets, he wanted a different set of inters
971k!! fantastic! so happy to see you hit 1M soon! 👏👏👏
I miss when we had actual wet races…
Excellent video, learned a lot!
Boss GP racer? Please make a video of the driving style of a Boss GP champion named... MAHAVEER RAGHUNATHAN.
Josh Revell got you if you looking for that but I somehow think you already know...
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Could you elaborate ? I'm genuinely curious. How are they scamming people ?
I'm also curious about them being a scam
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@@ThatOneDude7 technically the established title that you get is total bs and it’s more or less a money grab for a sheet of paper. Not much more that paying for some dude to write “this guys a dr” on a random price of paper
You could legally change your title tomorrow. You just start using it on official documentation. E.T. don't provide any real service that you couldn't get for free
ayrton senna and michael schumacher are two biggest example about mastering wet race, they both are rain master
it's like they have a sixth sense about their car, and it help them in wet race
ive personally driven a few f1 cars myself through paid "track experience", as an example cota.
Im far from a great driver, wouldn't say im terrible but im FAR from what those cars needed in the DRY.. taking it to a wet track? that's actually scary.
it's so extremely sensitive and on the edge that just an incorrect 5%more pressure on the pedal would mean the front wing became just a wing. in the wet? jeeeez man, they guys got courage.
that's all i gotta say, mad respect all round even to the back of the grid.
because despite how much of a meme we make out of the back markers, having that real hands on experience i know for a damn fact they're insanely talented drivers.
How did you get the opportunity to race them, if you dont mind?
driving a regular car in the rain is already scary enough. I can't imagine driving a F1 car at 100%. But I guess having massive downforce while driving at those speeds is beneficial vs driving your flying brick as a commuter car at high speeds.
@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 pay 5-6k and get to drive an f1 for couple of lap
@@theTutenstien 5-6K is cheaper than what I checked, it was 12K+ always
@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 last I checked was a 2011 car in barcelona or paul richard for 3 laps and it was around 7k€. Maybe the one you looked at was with more laps?
Can you explain how Stroll is so fast in the wet and average on Dry?
a brief summary for those who never see a wet road: wet roads have less traction. particularly in turns at speed.
...and then you have Max who doesn't drive on the ideal racing line but where no one dares to drive - see Brazil 2016. He wants to know how much grip is there.
Established Titles is a scam. Vet your sponsors better
Sadly most green credit services like this are all scams. At least in America green credit is only supposed to count if you donate to preserve land that is in danger of being destroyed. Something like 70% of green credit ventures goes to land that's already being preserved by a government or funded body
Actually, I was thinking of dressing as a Wet Tyre for Halloween
In wet they are braking as late as possible in order to retain aerodynanic forces until last moment. In dry they don't need to do that.
Shameful is that FIA never let them race in rain. We only see intermediaries tyres nowadays. We will never see what Senna did in the rain again, if they aren't allowed to race in wets.
In the rain, f1 is nothing compares to rally and motogp
You mention Trail Braking. I understand that drivers Trail the brakes to keep the front axle loaded in corner turn in phase. How is this different in the wet? I presume there's less forward weight transfer (brake balance is usually wound back a bit in the wet)... so does that mean Trail braking is even more important in the wet to limit\control understeer?
Driving in the rain is easy but tricky. Either you have traction either you won't. And unlike dry, rebound doesn't exist. As long you respect that, you go as fast as you can.
The floor is like the ceiling except it's not
Love racing in the rain.
I can't imagine even being able to SEE THROUGH THE VISOR with all the spray coming off the other drivers! Never mind actually driving!
My first time on a wet circuit was Mont Tremblant in Canada in F2000. At first, all I saw was a few drops on the shield, but accelerating out of the esses, and around it went. The session started dry, got into mixed conditions, and I never recovered my lap times. We all can't be Senna.
My first thought was ohh engine can give more power becoz colder conditions
uuh I have a silly question
How much water do single-seater get inside the cockpit during rain? and how can it affect the drivers?
0:28 one of those videos is actually from Day of the dead, not Halloween haha
I seriously hope nobody takes any of the lines shown at around 5:49 ... that would mean driving the Suzuka turn 11 hairpin backwards!!!
You guys surely know Suzuka better than that. :)
I never understood if F1 is so focused on being environmentally friendly why they push Pirelli to increase its Scope1, Scope2 and Scope3 emissions by making wet tires they never use.
good video but why did you have to show it driving the hairpin at suzuka the wrong way
Nice video , but I just wanted to add the in the name of safety they have stopped "proper" wet races ,sure it's for safety but the wet tires r kinda getting useless.
Its a joke, the singapore gp did not need an hour delay. And anyway they would be going slower in the wet its not dangerous
OK but almost all of this could be applied to all other race categories and series with rain. This isn't exclusively F1 related
Thanks
You are a very good videographer.👌🏻❤
They don't drive when it is wet. They red flag it and wait until intermediate tyres can be used.
Not me only noticing this now, is Scott in any way related to Nigel Mansell?
Nope
They go as fast race day on dry track
Wouldn't it get easier as the tyres get hot, or do they never get hot in wets??
so are you lord mansell?
Crap...I've been driving in the rain totally wrong the whole time...
can we analyze sergio perez run on this race?
Don't forget the poor visibility due to spray combined with the lighting
Can't believe the hate Checo's getting on here sheesh
2:40 and still no answer to why the cars Are SO FAST (as the title suggests)
Do you have SI version? I want square meter.
Mate, why don't they just use full wets but postpone the race instead? I mean... full wets are just useless now.
Dang 100k views and only 125 comments.
They can t even drive when it really is wet,the amount of delays for rain these days is absurd, as are the amount of safety cars.
Wait. I can be a Lord??
Can wet weather provide more downforce at a given speed??
Hmm
I am sorry to inform you, but buying established titles lord or lady heritage, is not a real deal, it's more of a souvenier. Anyone can name them selves as lord or lady. I have bought quite many bottles of laphroiag during my 20 years of reign and have "ovnership" (lease) to many many plots of land in the islay. All you get is a printed plaque if you put your money into this. You can print it your self... Sorry to be a cock, but title lord is inherited.
This wasn't meant as a dick move towards you Scott. Loved watching the A1 gp. Shame it didn't grow bigger and ended before it really even started..
Your brother from Finland!
ill turn up to Halloween as myself, I'm ugly enough thanks but no thanks established titles
Now try racing with hard slicks during the rain...
Wrong way on Suzuka at 5:50. :)
They are so fast that the race ends instantly.
MotoGP races in worse conditions than F1..... Why does F1 have rain tires again?
2:46 **cough*Monaco*cough**
06:13 Suzuka reversed?
bros the son of Nigel mansell 💀💀
Now if they'd actually race in the wet...
Aged like egg
I saw a rally1 car ;)
Established Titles is a scam I hope you drop them as a sponsor
You know what, you`re better speaking with 1.25x faster
I wish F1 would come to the Dubai GP circuit. It's a great track!
Great channel. But please put a longer pause between sentences.
F1 drivers don't even race in the wet.
Yes they do!...
Behind the safety car.
On wet tracks my money is on Red Bull not cheating Mercedes’
"Even to MULTIPLE WORLD CHAMPIONS"
- Hamilton you mean 😏
Scott mansell
Nigel mansell.
Yes I know over used I just wanted to say it
Bros Nigel’s son
Because they don’t actually drive in the wet
Well everyone except Bottas
Established Titles is a scam
stop promoting them
Wet tyres 😂😂
Me like it wet 0,0
they dont drive in the wet !!!!!!!!!
in moist conditions they use the intermediate but that is basicly it .
iff full wets are meeded the race gets red flagged so stop talking wrong things dude .
Sponsored by Established Titles?? Really? I"ve got beachfront property in the Saraha Desert I'd like you to promote the sales please. LoL. You should look into whom is sponsoring you a bit more carefully before promoting a SCAM.
dude stop accepting established titles... it's a scam!
Being entitled as a lord is the most dank thing I've ever came across.
You could do that anyway. The bit about it being "a Scottish tradition" is a lie
YaetgciETs!
(Yet another eejit that got cought in the Established Titles scam)
the fastest are sim racers
Driving skills…simple