American Couple Reacts: Operation Black Buck! UK's Mega Bombing Runs Falklands! FIRST TIME REACTION!
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- American Couple Reacts: Operation Black Buck! UK's Mega Bombing Runs Falklands! FIRST TIME REACTION! We will freely admit that finding a video on Black Buck was not easy. All were to long or too short! So we went with who we know, Simon. We found this video highly interesting and also heavy. However, could we have watched a better video with more informative details, yes. While we feel there were more details than we learned in this video, it was still a good foundation to start. We take all conflicts/wars very seriously and our deepest, most sincerest condolences to anyone that lost anyone during this time and to ALL veterans of the Falklands. Let us know if you want to see us react to the Vulcan. Thank you SO much for watching! If you enjoy our content, please consider subscribing to our channel, it is the BEST way to support our channel and it's FREE! Also, please click the Like button. Thank you for your support! *More Links below...
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We will freely admit that finding a video on Black Buck was not easy. All were to long or too short! So we went with who we know, Simon. We found this video highly interesting and also heavy. However, could we have watched a better video with more informative details, yes. While we feel there were more details than we learned in this video, it was still a good foundation to start. We take all conflicts/wars very seriously and our deepest, most sincerest condolences to anyone that lost anyone during this time and to ALL veterans of the Falklands. Let us know if you want to see us react to the Vulcan. Thank you SO much for watching! If you enjoy our content, please consider subscribing to our channel, it is the BEST way to support our channel and it's FREE! Also, please click the Like button. Thank you for your support!
I think it was great, yes Simon was off the mark in some regards especially at the end but cool to see you two react to what is an iconic feat in aviation, it can't be understated.
@gnarkillkicksass Thank you for your service and Happy Birthday!!
@@TheNatashaDebbieShow Cheers to both of you really enjoyed that treat of a video, can't wait to see more from you! Edit - like I've said I haven't served, I just fly airliners for a low cost carrier dreaming of the day when I can move into flying cargo.
@@goodshipkaraboudjanstill, we appreciate you!
@@TheNatashaDebbieShow Thanks for the love can't wait for the next video!
Had the Falkland Islanders WANTED to be a part of Argentina and no longer considered British there would have been no war. But the people living on that distant island DID want to remain British - so we protected and honoured their wishes. No 'colonial' power struggle; just aiding our friends.
Of course. Imperialists like us would ONLY invade or help another country if they wanted us there, just like India, Iraq, Iran, the Congo, banana republics and Africa.
The Falklands are more British than Britain is now.
Exactly. I'm not exactly happy it had to come to war, but I'd have been deeply ashamed of my country if she had turned her back on her people abroad.
I think to say territory wasn't part of the equation at all, would be untrue. But it wasn't the main reason we fought.
exactly so. the Argentinians only bang the "Malvinas drum" when their economy is on its ass. they think the islands are sat in an oil field offshore. the answer to their economic woes! ... Iff Margaret Thatcher had not sent a force to retake the islands from the fascist junta, then UK would have been finished. thank God we had Thatcher and not the dreadful Labour party of the 1980's...
NOT TO MENTION OIL + NATURAL GAS BEING FOUND JUS OFF THE FALKLANDS??
I still consider this the “true" longest bombing raids is history, certainly the B2 raids in Afghanistan were impressive, but the supporting tankers were pre-positioned in Europe and the Middle East. With Black Buck, everything left and returned to a single base.
People keep underestimating us Brits, it what we do and why we are so good at the stuff we do
Love your videos, it’s great to see our cousins enjoying things about the U.K
Until we’ve gone woke.
@@kenirving5240 even then the core britishness will remain, even with woke.
@@Greenwood4727cultural Marxism is what it is
@@tobytaylor2154 something people forget that Marx lived in the North west of england with his friend Engels, whose father owned quite a few mills, so Markx was benefitting off the son of a mill owner ad quite wealthy..i live in the north west and people forget that..
I love being British ❤🇬🇧 But get very upset at lives lost, on both sides. Girls, look up a profile of Simon Weston, his aweful injuries and the path he took after the conflict, what a man ❤
Agree, a very brave man.
Great minds..I too have suggested that they look at the programmes following Simon's journey back from hell..
Yes, I agree. Look up Simo Weston
You mean Simon Weston, CBE, OBE.
@@Otacatapetl if you want to be precise!!!
I was at RAF Henlow, the RAFs Radio Engineering Unit at the time of the conflict and remember getting recalled from leave to help prepare and pack equipment and spares to be shipped to the Falklands and ascension Islands. The supporting logistics were massive. We showed the world what happens when you mess with Britain.
I was then serving at 30 MU RAF Sealand (as you will know) the RAF's third line* avionics maintenance unit. The spares you were packing were from our stores. We were also working long hours, not only assembling the spares to be shipped but also to catch up and fill the hole that left in our stores.
The RAF normally worked on a system of 'Direct Exchange' whereby replacement units were shipped to flying stations as soon as a faulty part was reported. The serviceable and unserviceable units would, in theory, cross paths en route with the good unit being installed while the faulty one joined the queue for repair by me or one of the other 500 or so technicians (both service and civilian) slaving over hot soldering irons! Shipping large amounts of spare units diminished our reserves meaning we needed to push through the faulty queue to keep an adequate supply for all the other flying operations that still continued in the rest of the RAF.
Every aircraft has an amazingly long and complex support tail even in normal circumstances and these were far from normal!
* For the benefit of those not familiar with the terminology, aircraft maintenance is split into three levels. Using avionics as an example since that was my field, first line is the work on the aircraft themselves--a faulty radio is simply swapped out as a complete unit and passed to second line. Second line is typically carried out in workshops on the flying unit. These are fairly basic and, in the case of radios, worked to module level. Having diagnosed the fault the defective module would be swapped, the faulty module being passed on to third line maintenance where the final component level repair would be carried out by me or one of the legion of other technicians. Similar principles apply to other fields such as propulsion (engines) or weapons.
Each level employs personnel with more and more specialist equipment and experience. For example, I spent the best part of four years working on a single module so I literally knew every component and the symptoms of every failure and had the special-to-type test equipment and spares to repair them.
I was at RAF Benson - i'd been in for 2 years. the invasion came as a real shock. but the response was incredible. Benson was home to the Wessex helicopters at the time , and everyone was suddenly working around the clock preparing for their deployment .. that went on for a couple weeks then suddenly ; STOP - the govt had decided they wanted to send their new Chinooks instead of the venerable Wessex.. so a bit of waste of time... oh well. such is the confusion of war.
I am so proud of you ALL.... I was sadly too young to take part
Respect and thank you 🙏🏼
That was tan and you are correct. I was at RAF Aldergrove. We were the best but sadly we have lost everything.
A critical part of the refueling system for the vulcan was being used as an ashtray in the officers mess. It was hasterley cleaned up and refitted to the vulcan to be used for the raid.
The Falklands are more British than Britain is now.
Yeah, love that little part of the story. Classic! Didn't they have to go searching Museums for some other parts as well?
So British 😂🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@josephmckenna1228Yep, we are a unique people.
@@SALUTE-INT-S yeah, as the refuelling systems had been decommissioned years before the conflict, and many Vulcans had already become museum pieces, engineers flew around the world to those museums to get the necessary parts for the bombers that took part
Thank you again for your kind words for all veterans. I know someone who was on a ship that was hit by the Argentinians. He did unfortunately suffer from PTSD. Even now 40 yrs later he is still
Affected by it. I also met men who were soldiers serving in Northern Ireland. Who were left with PTSD. In a time it wasn’t talked about. Thankfully there is more help for the serving men and women now. ❤️🇬🇧🇺🇸
Both sides had trauma, the number of suicides post war from Argentinean soldiers is about 5x their wartime casualties. They were mistreated , poorly lead and supplied , lied to and then shamed back home for losing. Yes they deserve sympathy too.
I highly recommend you get a copy of the book, Vulcan 607 and read it, it will tell you exactly just how complicated this mission was.
I was just about to leave high school when the war for the Falklands broke out and was glued to any news bulletins of the time, cheering all our forces on every step of the way.🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 💪
what a great book to read...
@@martincampbell3024 I was astounded how complicated the whole mission was. It was touch and go all the way but the RAF pulled of a blinder and frightened the Argentine forces when they realised they were not untouchable even at such a great distance ( not to mention mainland Argentina too). The Vulcan itself was a remarkable aeroplane ideally suited to such a mission despite its age.
AS YOU may have guessed by now I am a big Vulcan fan..
And I loved the film documentary..when the play chariots of fire on the return flight.. and the tanker pops up in front of them for the last refuelling..back to the mess for tea and medals...lol
@@martincampbell3024 bet the boys were relieved when the Victor rolled out in front of them, they were running on fumes.
Just seen it again..for about the fifth time..as they say in the RN..."B Z" what a great mission..."Bravo Zulu"..
I worked with a colleague who was crew on the sub that sank the Belgrano. He told me the initial euphoria at the sinking, died as they heard the noise of the ship sink. The realisation that they could have been in the place of the Belgrano's crew sank in. They realised servicemen doing their duty, like them, had just perished. You sign on the dotted line, you know the risks, you know it can happen, but is sobering when it does.
The Falklands confilct could have been easily avoided. In the mid-70s the junta was making noises about an invasion so the Royal Navy was sent to the Falklands area and the junta got the message. In 1982 the junta thought that Britain would not retaliate if the islands were invaded.
@@geoffpoole483 correct, operation joneyman 1977, when then labour pm jim callaghan quietly sent small uk task force, including nuclear sub dreadnought, to the south atlantic, & then labour foreign sec david owen, let the agries, through diplomatic channels, know that they would be swimming home if they attacked! result, no 250 dead uk servicemen, remember, thatcher was told directly by tory kent mp.& navy minster keith speed, what would happen if they cut the chatham based ship, hms endurance , the falkland guard ship! in john notts 1981 defence cuts! but instead, she sacked him, & in doing so she needlessly spilt a lot of uk blood! next time we should just send uk attack subs, & if need be, use missiles to take out & destroy their navy in their home mainland ports!
Before I have my say, there will always be fanatics who demonstrate hate, politics, vengeance and such like but my say is about the brotherhood shown between Sailors, Soldiers and Airmen, regardless of which side they are on. A few examples are:-
In WW1 during a truce on Christmas day 1914, the Royal Welch Fusiliers played a football match with the German Battalion 371.
I read that English Electric Lightning’s used by the RAF as interceptors in the ’cold war’ had small fuel tanks and used a great deal of fuel, relied on air to air refueling from Victor tankers to give them the endurance that they required. Allegedly a Lightning, shadowing a Soviet reconnaissance aircraft couldn’t find the Victor to refuel and radioed to say he was going to land in Iceland. He received a radio transmission from the pilot of the Soviet aircraft, giving him coordinates to find the Victor tanker.
Taken from the book ‘Vulcan 607’ written by Rowland White. “During the Falklands conflict a Buenos Aires newspaper reported that a British nuclear submarine had been detected off the Argentine coast. In New York the British Air Attache knew that the British submarines were not yet on station. As he talked with the French representative at the United Nations Staff Committee a Soviet Admiral brushed past him, “Are our submarines being of any help?” He didn’t wait for a reply.”
So your mate, from 12 metres away, underwater, wrapped in steel, heard the screams of people that were on a floating ship😂😂😂
Is he called Jay, and had trials for West Ham?
Natasha and Debbie, you asked about other things about the Falklands. Look at pebble island SAS.
The Argentinian Junta realised that if the RAF could bomb Stanley then it could just as easily bomb Buenos Aries. So the Junta had to allocate fighter cover to the capital city.
Many years after the Falklands war, secret information was released which showed that if it looked as though the mission to retake the Falklands was likely to fail, then a plan was made to drop a nuclear weapon on Buenos Aires. Fortunately this was not required.
This was the strategic aim of the raids. To deny the Falklands airfields to Argentine air power, including re-supplying their troops.
Exactly. Although we needed to take the runway out of use, the psychological effect of knowing that we could drop bombs at that range had a far greater impact.
@@tibsie And not just on Argentina. A lot of people were scratching their heads and saying 'They Did What?' And re-thinking and evaluating about the UK
Exactly. Much of it was about putting the fear of God up the Argies!!
The Vulcan? The responsibility of the man who designed the Lancaster bomber, Roy Chadwick. Put them together and it's like going from the stone age to the bronze age almost overnight.
the bomb and navigation internals were much the same on the lancaster and the vulcan. The change was the engines/ wings
Roy Chadwick gets credit for the Vulcan, but actually he had little to do with it. He initially rejected the delta planform, but then he was off ill for a prolonged period and during his absence, his younger subordinates worked it up into a firm proposal. When he came back he was initially angry with them, but eventually they managed to talk him round. However he was then killed in an air crash while the Vulcan was still in the conceptual design phase and was very different from the aircraft that was eventually built.
The general point is valid though: there was a generation of designers and engineers whose careers spanned the entire period from stick-and-string biplanes to supersonic jets. Sir Sydney Camm at Hawker started his professional career as an apprentice _carpenter_ at the Martinsyde company just before World War One and ended up supervising the design of the Hawker Harrier jump-jet.
Thanks for that info Harry.
What this video doesn't tell you (and it's a lot) but the main point of the mission was to show Argentina that Britain could bomb their mainland which forced them to station the bulk of their fighter jets back in Argentina. This meant that it was much harder for them to fight as an air force as they had over 300 miles to fly each way before even getting into an air battle.
It was a huge advantage for the British and a stroke of genius.
The main treason for the mission was to win Margaret Thatcher a general election on the deaths of many brave UK Military. The same reasoning behind why Argentina attacked in the first place.
It's 300 km each way (not miles), but it still meant that aircraft of the Argentine air force had too little fuel on board to be able to spend more than five or ten minutes over the islands.
And when they attacked the task force outside of the Falklands, they had essentially just one attack run before they had to turn back.
@@nigeldepledge3790 Imagine being *that guy* who comments to basically say the exact same thing as the OP but just to correct the fact it was km, not miles...🤣 And even then you're still wrong. It's over 300 MILES from the closest point of mainland Argentina to the Falklands. The closest airbase, which I believe is San Julián is roughly 650km from San Carlos Bay. It would have been a further 100km+ to get remotely close to the British fleet.
@Axispaw1 - that's interesting. Simon Whistler's video said 296 km.
@@nigeldepledge3790 Yeah but Simon is a bit of a t"@t! He often gets things wrong, leaves out vital info, and glares over minor and major components just to get *his* point across, and of course to land in that UA-cam algorithm 'sweet-spot'...
Great video! Lots say it was a pointless war (from abroad) but for us Brits it was not! It was the will of the islanders who wanted to remain British, and we made sure that happened ❤
Shame that Thatcher's disastrous Strategic Defence Review of 1981 left the islands hopelessly undefended in the first place and paved the way for Galtieri's opportunistic 1982 invasion.
@@mihohobaba totally agree, then again, is there anything GOOD Thatcher will be remembered for? 🤔
It was the labour governments successive defence cuts in the 70s and cancellation of the TSR2 that forced the Vulcans extended service. Britain was almost bankrupt due to labour & its union wranglings in the 70s resulting in the 3 day week & power cuts that wrecked our industries. I remember them as a child & lived it. In 1979 the conservative government inherited a skint & broken economy. By the mid 80s the economy was booming with tens of thousands of jobs created. It takes time to restore wealth & prosperity. The commerce system generated in the 80s keeps London the No1 financial city on the planet & the prosperity it brings to Britain to this day.
2500 brits being held hostage 7000 miles away … under labour & its failed 70s policies we would’ve been still negotiating and kissing the argies arses now.
The “iron curtain” & the world was watching closely during this war, under Thatcher’s leadership Britain demonstrated its will & strength & resolve, restoring international respect & giving freedom to its citizens on the Queens islands.
Horseshit - Don't blame Labour for Thatcher's incompetence. The Falklands was down to her government's policy alone.
@@davidbrooks187
@@davidbrooks187Well said that man 🇬🇧👍
Valiant Vulcan and Victor. The V force is well worth a look. From the stop-gap Valiant, the howling and robust Vulcan and finally the much more advanced Victor.
The Victor wasn't necessarily a beautful aircraft aesthetically, but definitely had a "I mean business" look about it!
The Victor could look beautiful, ugly or downright evil depending on the viewing angle.
Why at the time of the Falklands war didn't the UK have a more up to date bomber in use rather than bringing back old Vulcans and having to re equip them. Or did they.
@@FeedbackPete1 The Tornado had just entered service but only had a range of 860 miles compared to the Vulcan's 2,600 miles.
@@paulwalsh9680 The Victor looked like they stole it from Gerry Anderson's stetchbook.
We have a Vulcan in our village Wellesbourne at our little airfield. It has been kept in running order and occasionally makes runway dash’s to show people. I can hear it’s engines start up from my house a mile away. The runway is too short for it to take off. It is a village just a very short drive of 15 mins away from Stratford upon Avon. The airfield also does an amazing English breakfast.
That's super cool!
not surprising, they are earth shakers, try standing near one as it's engines run up, your internal organs vibrate, it is the strangest feeling
We have one also at Southend Airport. They also do runs of the engine and open days for the public.
There is another close by at Coventry airport, the Wellesbourne one made national news when on taxi it recently overshot the runway. I have yet to try the breakfast 😮
I lived at Wellesbourne.
My Dad was a RAAF Mirage III pilot during the Falklands war which was the same type of interceptor flown by the Argentine Air Force. So they were very unofficially asked by their mates in the RAF (at the time there were lots of exchange pilots between the two) to fly certain mission profiles etc to give feed back on the capabilities of the Mirage that the task force could expect to face from that type. I can't remember if they simulated Norfolk Island or Lord Howe Island as the Falklands but it was one of them and they worked out there was only about 3 to 5 minutes of sortie time over the islands with a full combat load out. He later flew for Cathay with a bunch of ex RAF guys with Falklands experience. As a pilot myself, Simon though 🙄
I hope he flew with the FAA then the because the RAF did bugger all in the Falklands.
It is AIR FORCE
not Air Force
Learn that AIR FORCE is MILITARY
and Air Force is what comes out of your Hair Dryer
It is even clearly written so on the Aircraft
So pay attention to detail ---
and make sure the brain sees exactly what the eyes are looking at.
Unfortunately you were programmed to be a ZOMBIE and do not realize it
ZOMBIEs have eyes but cannot see - ears and cannot hear.
Time to step out of the ZOMBIE ZONE
The Vulcan is such a beautiful aircraft
If you want an in-depth understanding of the complications of the refuelling procedure the 'Operations Room' channel is an excellent choice. Simon glosses over this.
It's also worth noting the lesser-known story of the final Victor that followed the Vulcan down to the Falklands. Because the fuel burn had been so much more than expected, in order for the Vulcan to make the target as planned the Victor had to give away so much fuel that it couldn't make it back to Ascension island, and they had no way of communicating that back to HQ. They prepared to ditch in the Atlantic as far north as they could get, but luckily HQ had realised what was happening when the earlier tankers landed and reported the fuel burn issues, so dispatched another tanker to meet the Victor. They were awarded gallantry medals for their actions on a similar level to those who flew the bombing mission itself.
Vulcan 607 is the novelisation of the whole operation, and definitely worth a read.
Thank you, I served in the Falklands and was injured but I still managed 26 years in the British Army after ....Thank you
Thank you for your service sir..🇬🇧✝️🙏👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🏅
Good on ya matey
Ex RGJ, respect mate.
A long time friend was a teenage sailor, AA gunner on HMS Broadsword. He told me there were many times he was scared during the Falklands conflict. Meanwhile the then young woman that is now my wife was in army communications, she was seconded to the admiralty HQ as she had security clearance. She has no heroic tales to tell from then, 1st gulf war or Balkans. "I just did my job" she told me.
Even by todays standards it is still pretty impresssive, considering when my son (Corporal, REME) did his tour of duty in the Falklands it took three days to fly there! I was lucky enough to see the last flight of the last vulcan on it;s national tour. At the time I was at a live steam fair when it did a slow low fly over, knowing it was a sight that would never been seen again I told my young grandson and to pay special attention. I hope he remebers it for a very long time, he may well be one of a very few people in the future that remembers ever seeing one in flight! Given that the Vulcan was designed to drop nuclear bombs on soviet targets, when the Kremlin realised what the RAF had achieved with outdated aircraft, their jaws must have hit the floor as they realised exactly what they were up against during the cold war! This account as ever from this channel is clear, accurte and consice. There is a documentary on the tube which features the servicemen involved giving their personnel accounts. To be honest, just the logistcs of the refeulling flights itself is a whole video in and of itself and i;m sure there will be one out there.
I used to live within sight of RAF Honnington in Suffolk. At one of their last open days before flight operations ceased there, I watched from my garden a vulcan bomber swoop low over the airfield and climb again, several times. Amazing sight !
Not ashamed to admit to tears when 598 did her last tour. I saw her over Barton in Manchester, after a lifetime of Woodford and Cosford airshows going back to the 60s. I can still hear that howl if I think hard.
My brother died and is buried on the Falklands, just one reason for me to say NO to Argentina ever having anything to say or do with the Islands. Only two weeks ago the EU was calling them the Argentine name (refuse to say the name). That makes me very angry. My brother along with many others British blood was spilt on the Falklands it will be British for ever.💔
The EU can do one
@@randomshorts739 Its the UK that 'did one', now the EU doesn't have a reason to stick up for UK interests (I believe *both* names were on the document).
Argentina doesn't have a legitimate claim at all to the Falklands which existed in the state they are now before their country even existed, it was only ever occupied by penguins before that. The rest of the world should recognise that and call it by it's proper name. If their leader hadn't lied to their people claiming we stole it from them and they will get it back, this war could have been avoided and they still lie to their people about it, Argentinians really believe we stole the island from them, total bullshit.
The Vulcan Bomber XH558 was always the highlight of every UK airshow - please check it out and enjoy the Vulcan growl. It was the loudest aircraft of the show and impressive with its delta shape and power. This would have been a very intimidating aircraft to encounter. Fun fact, the Avro Vulcan was the successor to the Avro Lancaster which I think is pretty awesome!
Yes, there are longer videos that give more information - the method of refueling was quite a dance - but this is nice and succinct. I don't think you've reacted to these (of course I could be wrong) but they're well worth it: "World War II: The 13 hours that saved Britain" and "The greatest raid of all time". They're both quite long - the Greatest Raid is one of those utterly absurd things we Brits are famous for.
I remember hearing about Blackbuck 1 on the news here in Australia. The feat was pretty amazing covering the distance it did and the refuelling. The other missions didn’t get nearly as much coverage.
If you get a chance to find Rowland White’s fascinating book ‘Vulcan 607’ then it goes through the selection of the crews and trained for AAR, getting the aircraft ready and interviews with those involved and the islanders.
Brilliant video!
That Mission must have been a Logistical nightmare. What Simon never mentioned was that on the last refueling the Vulcan crew were getting ready to ditch into the sea, they were flying on fumes due to the fact that someone on The Argentine Mainland was transmitting on the same frequency that The Vulcan was using to guide it to the Victor Tanker. Next minuet the Tanker just appeared off it`s wingtip. There is a very good interview if you can find it with The Pilot that actually flew The Vulcan. With reference to The General Belgrano, I went to the Launch of The Submarine that sank her, HMS Conqueror at Lairds Shipyard in Birkenhead. 1969 I was Ten years old and my Uncle worked on her when she was being built.
I hope you do do a reaction to the Vulcan.
When we still had one for air displays, it created what was known as the Vulcan effect. Roads for miles around would be jammed with cars trying to get to see her. No other aircraft, not even the Spitfire or Lancaster can do that to anywhere near the same degree.
Thank you for showing this I remember the Falklands War as I was 20 at the time but I don't recall Operation Black Buck.
It would be great if you could do a reaction video on the Vulcan also a video on R J Mitchell and the Spitfire would be good too. ❤
That was very interesting. I knew nothing about the Falklands mega bombing runs until I watched this. Thanks so much ❤
So glad you learned with us!
A lot of people entirely miss the point of Black Buck - there were many ways the RAF and Navy could have put holes in the runway, much easier and at less risk. The Vulcan was designed to drop nuclear weapons on cities and remove them from the map: what it said is "this _could_ have been carrying a WE 177B, it _could_ have been flying over Buenos Aires, and you're very welcome that we're being so polite". THAT was the point of the mission. It's one of the problems of submarine-launched nuclear weapons: you can't send that sort of message.
The Black Buck 1 raid although a strategically motivated operation, and a lot of planning went into it. However, I think it was more of a phycological win similar to the Doolittle raid of Tokyo after Pearl Harbour during WW2. The message was plain and simple, we are coming and that would have put the commanders on the Falklands on edge for the rest of the conflict. As stated, there are more detailed videos of the Black Buck raid but they do tend to go on a bit. Good reaction as always, ladies!
Another interesting reaction video Girls and I can remember the conflict as I was 19 at the time. From a military point of view the damage caused was minimal but the psychological effect on the Argentine troops was large. Also check out, if you can, the Canberra. The Canberra was a cruise ship which was press ganged into service as a troopship. She was painted white and everyone was worried she would be an easy target to the Argentinian air force but weirdly the white paint turned out to be the perfect camouflage. Love, hugs and prayers from Sussex, UK
I am fortunate to have seen the Vulcan in flight at an airshow in Yorkshire just before it was grounded. The Vulcan ROAR is something to behold.
and in total contrast to the almost silence once it levelled out :)
I have seen the Vulcan fly several times over my old house as I lived next to a RAF base. It was were used to take off aircraft for shows. I can still remember the noise they made. Unfortunately, since i moved just a few miles away, we are no longer in the flight path.
something i am sure the Argie troops appreciated from their air raid trenches lol
So interesting. My husband worked a.ongsice a man who fought in the Forklands and lost most of his men, he rarely spoke of it but because my husband has an interest he told him. Well done girlies again for your sincere response.
Loving the channel (Just discovered you) I was a child living at RAF Scampton while the Vulcans were there as so I is by far my favourite aircraft. There is a great book on Vulcan 607 (Black Buck 1) by Rowland White that goes into a lot more details about the problems faced like turning an aircraft designed for a 2 hour trip to bomb Russia using terrain following navigation to an aircraft flying over the sea (no terrain to follow) for 16 hours. Also you should find a video on the Vulcan Howl !!!
I once stood under the delta wing of a Vulcan and felt like an ant. That something so huge could be so graceful in the air is amazing
I was working on the flight line of RAAF Base Edinburgh, South Australia at the time and a Vulcan turned up. Surprisingly the crew were happy to let me have a tour and I was shocked to see the in flight refueling system was jerry rigged with the hoses literally taped along the interior. The aircraft reeked of jet fuel. I couldn't imagine how stressful it would have been, especially during fuelling, if a hose failed they would have been incinerated.
I was at Semaphore then , I am sure we thought we could hear Port Wakefield proof range
As a 14 year old I was taken to an airshow at RAF Church Fenton. The highlight was the Vulcan. I still think that it's the loudest thing that I have ever heard. It flew low along the runway which was loud enough, but when it lifted its nose and began to put on power and climb...the earth was shaking. It's something that I will never forget. 😊❤😊
Went to a military history lecture on the Falklands Conflict. Two take aways - Casper Weinberger telephoned Pentagon on the day of the invasion , said Brits are going to come begging, I do not want to hear that they did not get what they wanted. Other was comment from an Islander on effect of Black Buck one - up to the bombs dropped Argentine forces were confident and settling in - after the raid the mood changed, they were jumpy and the realisation was apparent that Britain was coming.
Not sure we went begging but Casper was our only friend in the USA. He did make sure the Sidewinders we had ordered and paid for before the war were delivered immediately from US stocks rather than wait for them to be built and delivered.
@@1chish He did much more that that - from AVM Dick who was the RAF Air Attache to Washington - "What I did not know when I first visited J4, was that Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger had, as soon as he heard about the Argentinean invasion, told his staff that the Brits were to be given every assistance possible short of actually engaging in operations, and that he would not tolerate any bureaucratic interference with British requests, which were to be given maximum possible priority. Given that attitude from the man at the top, and the normally high level of peacetime cooperation between the US and UK services, it was hardly surprising that the Pentagon was quick to offer support. Indeed, many civilian officials outside the Pentagon later seemed almost alarmed that the military could have pre-empted them in aiding a foreign power. Weinberger had said that the US help must stop short of operations in the war zone. While that was strictly true, in the sense that no US units took part in the Falklands war, it has to be said that the US did provide extra aircraft, ships and men to cover the NATO commitments from which the UK had necessarily withdrawn. That contribution is often forgotten, but it sent an important signal to both friends and enemies that the US was serious about supporting its allies."...
..."I was given nothing but encouragement and help in the Pentagon. Whenever I appeared in front of someone with a problem (nearly all of them pretty demanding) I was welcomed as a friend and, almost invariably, my request was dealt with in front of me on the telephone. I was never asked to sign for anything, nor was I ever asked to put anything in writing. They listened to my story, took my word for it and acted - immediately. Bureaucrats with procedures or objections were brushed aside and told to follow up
with the paperwork later - much later. It was all very heart-warming, and a very good time to be an ally of the US."
@@rossmcneill10 I said quite clearly Casper was our only friend and he did indeed grease the wheels of the normally negative minded Pentagon.
However the only actual material help was, as I said, delivery from US stocks of Sidewinders we had already ordered. Had we not already had an order in place I doubt even Casper could have got the Pentagon to give us US stocks of those missiles. The Shrikes we already had in stock in the UK as we had to add wing pylons to the Vulcan despite the story they were supplied 'covertly' just for the Falklands War. Ask me how I know.
The re-positioning of NATO ships was not a material aid to us as any NATO operation is voluntary. What was equally never mentioned was how Australia and New Zealand positioned their ships to release RN ships from further afield for the war.
@@1chish As you are in the know - you seem to have forgotten the fuel storage/delivery arrangements of Accension, and Concertina City to name but a few.
very insulting comment that UK would "come begging".. the UK looked for American support in the UN , knowing all the third world and communist countries would vote against UK.. in the event the US sat on the fence for the most part as the Argentinian fascist junta were clients.. USA did ship new Sidewinder air-to-air missiles, but otherwise we managed without them completely. USA did one big favour - they had trained the Argentinian military and that faulty training helped in defeating them
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He's the best!
I remember being obsessed about the Falklands War at the time. It was an amazing feat for the British to fight a war so far from home and these bombing raids, although they did not really achieve what they wanted, were incredible in their conception, complexity and execution. I think it would be interesting if you did a reaction to another of Simon's videos that focuses on another iconic piece of hardware used in this war: the Harrier jump jet - ua-cam.com/video/7ON9xGNfUOo/v-deo.html
the raid was to show the Argies - the British are coming! ....
mmmmm Not really correct saying that "they did not really achieve what they wanted". What the RAF wanted to do was put the airstrip at Stanley out of action. If the Argentinians had been able to base fast jets on the Falklands, the British fleet would have had to station itself much further east, away from the islands, for safety. This would have made the British operation much harder. The airstrip could be repaired by the Argentinians (it was) but fast jets need a good surface to land on. By virtue of the fact that the Argentinian jets had to be based on the mainland, they only had a few minutes of operational time over the Falklands. So, showing that Argentinian jets at the airport would be in danger of attack, the Black Buck sorties DID achieve what was wanted.
God bless Mrs That her, Iron Lady indeed. She had bigger balls than any man.
She was a psycho. May she burn in hell.
Air to air refuelling like many other things was a British invention.
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RAF crews on the black buck raids described air to air refueling as trying to thread warm spaghetti up a cat's backside
Thanks for that video and the respect shown. I feel I want learn more now so as I’m planning an easy day I’ll watch more videos ❤️❤️
Another informative video thank you. I was 12yrs old at the time, in Australia, and while I remember it being on the news a lot, I didn't really learn much about it. I appreciate learning with you girls because, although I hate war and never wanted to hear about it when I was younger, I think it's important we remember all of the amazing feats achieved, and the losses, sacrifices and lasting effects of war on everyone. I have several generations in my family who have served, who are serving, and a son who wants to serve. Thank you for the continued respect and appreciation you girls express to all who have and are currently serving.
You are the best, why not take a look at Christian Craighead, a former SAS man who saved many from a terrorise attack in Kenya including at least one American lady…..
Yet another interesting video, shall delve more into it. The shirt won the day though, very stylish ❤
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Thanks for covering this story Ladies. I almost suggested it after your last video on The Falklands, but you already had thousands of comments. By the conflict, Vulcans had already been decommissioned, so finding the parts was difficult. One of the refuelling parts they needed was found in an RAF base being used as an ashtray! And as Natasha pointed out, the psychological effects made more difference than the physical damage. The fact that our RAF could reach out that far with bombers really spooked the Argentine command.
Really interesting! I've learned so much from your videos about my country! ..you always bring so much empathy and emotions..so much care that's why I watch you because your always so respectful!
I agree this month has flown by ..we have had rain and low temperatures all most every day in July...if you had come over this year you would of experienced that British Weather we are renowned for! ...I hope you get lots of sunshine next year when you are over! ..you will have a fantastic time though whatever the weather..bring your brollies though and rain coats just incase.❤❤
there was also British military politics.
The RN"s submarines had replaced the Vulcans as the owners of the British nuclear deterrent. But the RAF had fought a long battle to discredit the RN's aircraft carrier force and had largely succeeded, maintaining that their planes could fight anywhere in the world.
But the RAF appeared to have no role in the Falklands. Hence the rapidly cobbled together Black Buck operation.
The pilot of Black Buck One, Flight Lieutenant Martin Withers, was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross. The pilot of the Victor tanker, Squadron Leader Bob Tuxford, was awarded the Air Force Cross.
The Vulcan bomber is an immense aircraft.The howl of the Wolf ..... refering to the noise that issued forth from the engine of the Vulcan is an ear-popping explosion of noise that comes at engine start-up and gives any sane person goosebumps.!!
Yes it would be interesting to see you do a review of the Vulcan
if you want to have a look at the vulcan in more detail, i'd highly recommend watching Guy Martin (IOM TT rider, truck mechanic, amazing personality, and absolute enthusiast of all things mechanical / engineering!) helping prepare the vulcan for its farewell tour of britain. goes into the mechanical workings of it, what it was like to fly and loads more.
Loved watching that programme.
Good afternoon from Perth Western Australia 🇦🇺🌏. Interesting fact the liners RMS Queen Elizabeth II and SS Canberra played their part in the Falklands war as troopships, like past ocean liners that served in WWI & WWII.
I work at RAF Waddington in the UK, where the Vulcan's were based in 1982. We still have XM607 here as a gate guardian and she's recently been repainted. I'm off to work shortly and I'll see her out the window from my office...
The Victors mentioned were also part of Britains' heavy bomber fleet.Another was the Valiant.The Vulcan was the "golden child",a superb aircraft
One of the Vulcan bombers that took part in Black Buck is based at the airport near me, they offer visits quite often so you can go take a few photos. You can also stand under it while they fire up the engines!
Simon has done a video on the V Force which, made up of the Vulcan, Victor, and Valiant bomber aircraft, were the backbone of Britain's nuclear deterrent at the height of the Cold War until it was given to the Royal Navy. All of the aircraft were capable of bombing as well as dropping nuclear weapons. The biggest struggle for the OP was that the Vulcan was due to be phased out and replaced by the Panvia Tornado at the time of the Falklands War. They had been stripped of parts to keep others flying, had their refueling probes removed and their role had gone from high-level bombing to low-level stand-off nuclear strikes. Skills had to be relearned, in a short amount of time for the mission. A key spare part of one of the aircraft was found to be being used in the crew room as an ashtray! The RAF had no maps of the area, so one of the RAF Navs simply turned a map of the northern hemisphere upside down. All the refueling points and range of the aircraft were worked out without using computers. The Vulcan and its crew that landed in Brazil had to remain there 'interned' until the end of the conflict.
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So happy to hear that!
Finding parts for re-fuelling systems was difficult. One item was being used as an ashtray in the officers' mess, some parts were salvaged from a scrap yard near to RAF Waddington and one part from an aviation museum in California.
The American neutrality included the STRIKE missile system and retrofitting the new Sidewinder missile to the Harriers... the sidewinders had been supplied to the UK for testing.
Let's not forget the French had continued to supply Exocet missiles to the Argentines, although a lot of those transactions were intercepted by the British security services. The Exocet was a low flying anti-ship missile. Also France is a supposed ally of the UK and a member of NATO.
When he says they were far along in decommissioning, what he means is that they were mere weeks away from retirement they were in strip down process for moving them to aircraft museums.
The psychological effect is very real. And there are also things that are hugely important but rarely get talked about.
An example is the ski-jumps on the aircraft carriers. Most people assume that ski jumps are not as good as catapult-launch carriers. That is true in normal seas, but in the wild Antarctic ocean, ski jumps can operate in conditions that catapult launchers find problematic. Basically the angled launch angle allows aircraft launch that is not possible on a level flat top when the ship is pitching up and down. The ski jump carrier was a design that was on its way out, until the Falklands War demonstrated that they have their advantages in rough seas.
My work colleagues son was serving on HMS Sheffield, and our neighbours son was married the day before the war was made official. He was a helicopter pilot in the Navy and based on HMS Hermes, but didnt deploy for 3 weeks having been posted to Ireland for war training.He was not allowed to make contact with his new wife until he arrived in the Falklands. It was a very tense time here in the UK, with official broadcasts from the government each night. I drove with a friend to Portsmouth to see the `Fleet' assembling the day before they sailed south, and the Royal Yacht Brittania was moored out in the bay being made ready as a hospital ship, and many ships were being given a coat of paint to protect them from the viscious southerly seas. I am a huge aviation fan and got involved in the Vulcan preservation trust. She was forced to retire from flying and as one of the `Black Buck' squadron, she made a round the UK tour over 2 days and flew over Derby where I am, very low, to pay tribute to the Rolls Royce factory. I sent a donation to have my name inscribed on one of the bomb bay doors. The Vulcan preservation trust made an excellent video of the whole flight. Its probably on you tube by now.
I remember sitting at my desk at work, (I was 29), listening on my Walkman to BBC radio 5 Live, which had 24/7 coverage of the war. I was fascinated, and worried but confident us Brits would prevail to protect the British people in the Falklands .
The Vulcan was used to nuke America twice in a training exercise
I read the book about this.. it was an incredible endeavour 😊
My brother was an RAF fitter and worked on every one of the Vulcans.
The airport at Ascension Island is called “Wideawake”. For the duration of the war it became the busiest airport on Earth.
Vulcans were amazing machines. I was raised about 5 miles from an RAF base that flew Vulcans and they often came in to land really low over our house. They were LOUD!!! The shelves would shake and the pictures on the wall rattle when they flew over. We used to attend the annual airshow and you could get up close and see inside the plane, fascinating to a curious 8 year old! it would be interesting to see you review not just the Vulcan but the whole V series of aircraft, so much a core of our UK cold war defences.
A Royal Navy medic, Commander Rick Jolly operated "The Red and Green Life Machine", the colour of the Paras and Royal Marines Commandoish s berets. He also treated and saved many Argentinian lives and was the only British serviceman to be awarded a medal by Argentina.
I was at a party in a pub in Coventry when the DJ announced the ship had been lost.
The Ska stopped the dancing stopped. The DJ played `Sailing ` by Rod Stewart and everyone quietly went home.
Very sad and complative.
which ship? the Belgrano? it was a threat to the Task Force and sunk , quite correctly. the loss of live was not due to the torpedoes hitting it but the escort vessels deserting the Belgrano and leaving the crew freezing in their life rafts overnight......
@@coling3957 HMS Coventry was a Type 42 (Sheffield-class) destroyer of the Royal Navy. Laid down by Cammell Laird and Company, Limited, at Birkenhead on 29 January 1973, she was launched on 21 June 1974 and accepted into service on 20 October 1978 at a cost of £37,900,000.
She was sunk by Argentine Air Force A-4 Skyhawks on 25 May 1982 during the Falklands War.
A great channel I'd recommend for Battles and Military Operations, (as much as I love Whistle Boy), is the Operations Room
I've had the privilege to see the last Vulcan fly, they're like a living beast, the shape of their intakes makes them roar and whistle at certain throttle levels and the noise cuts straight through you
Thanks for another informative video. I do agree about the amount of refueling talk. Did get a little much. Great job as always ladies. See you at the next instalment.
We think the refueling aspect is incredible, but we were only saying there was much more to it than just that
I absolutely love your channel,Amazing you are both teaching me about my country. We have been to Norfolk Ooh be careful how you say it!!! My husband and I loved it it's beautiful.I want to go back Lesley retired nurse England thank you again
The vulcan was a truly awesome aircraft. Well worth a video of its own
Oh you must do one on the vulcan. My dad was in the RAF. Was the first plane he worked on. In 2015, dad passed away, the same year, the last flying vulcan was grounded.
I love the howl of the vulcan. Xxxx
The avro Vulcan was an extraordinary aircraft. Go listen to one flying at three quarter throttle, it screams like you wouldn't believe, to see one in flight was a truly awesome sight , please do a video on the Vulcan
I was lucky enough to witness the last flying Vulcan flying right over my head at low level on it's farewell tour. Vulcan is big and LOUD! Awesome aircraft.
Always my favourite aircraft because of its look and of course, the ‘howl’
Although the USA helped the UK with missiles, the FRENCH were supplying Argentina with the infamous Exocet missiles which caused many British deaths.
They did before the war, but stopped when the invasion happened. The French also supplied most of the jets Argentina flew during the conflict, the same ones they're flying now (they don't have the funding for new ones)
The documentary on the medical services, during the conflict is superb; well worth a review.
A Vulcan flew past my home office window on what I think was the last ever such flight.
Of course I'd like you to do a video on this simply stunning, magnificent, beautiful aircraft.
And the refuelling plan for this mission was simply insane, btw. And most videos just seem to skip over it. Which I think is a major omission.
It's not that hard to present or comprehend, but the ideas behind it and the execution of it deserve so much more credit than it gets.
If you want 'aircraft logistics' then look into this further. It was a simply astonishing idea.
Interesting video and reaction. The refuelling plan was the key to the Black Buck Operations. I recommend Rowland White's book Vulcan 607 for more details
Whoever worked out the refuelling schedule for the Vulcans must have been a genius. All the "V" bombers were designed as medium-range bombers and were only expected to be used against the USSR and their East European allies if the cold war ever got hot. Moscow is only about 400 miles from the UK so they were never expected to fly long-range missions.
The Vulcan bomber was involved in nuking the US twice in war games... on top of that on Vulcan take offs in the US the interceptors were caught out by a flight of fighters flying under the the Vulcans... if the tail had been shorter the Vulcan would have been the first stealth attack bomber.
yes please, for you looking at the Vulcan. Yes, Simon skims over a lot of things, but it's a 'taster' .
Some people have argued that the "Black Buck" raid merely alerted the Argentinian anti-aircraft forces to an attack by Harriers a day later.
"The defences had been woken up by the Vulcan": Andy Auld, 800 Squadron, as quoted in the book by Max Hastings and Simon Jenkins. "Battle For The Falklands", page 144 in my copy.
He gives a great overview, teasing you in a way to find out more.
My Uncle was in the Royal Navy and was part of the task force and one of the first to land on the beach as he was a field medic
The best documentary on the Falklands war is called "What Did The Falklands War Actually Achieve? The Untold Story.
Of course you would probably have to do it in parts, but it is terrific, showing individual stories from both sides.
I watched when Mark From The States reacted to it, I thought there's no way I'm going to watch a movie length documentary, but I loved it.
While the Vulcan was a formidable aircraft, it's the Victor that looked like something from Star treck and was just as capable.
Prince Andrew was a helicopter pilot in the war. He flew Seakings. When the Sir Galahad was hit by an Exocet anti ship missile, (French made), and caught fire, he used his helicopter's downdraft to push life rafts full of injured troops away from the burning hulk. The regiment involved in this were The Welsh Guards. Many were severely burnt. One soldier, Simon West, became quite well known as I believe there is film of him in the burnt remains of his uniform, hanging about him and him almost naked and burnt. Half running/jogging to a life raft on the deck of the ship. A true hero.